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4. July 2003, 00:54:42 (edited)
I find these huge threads - "list all bugs here" to be really useless. They disrupt[1] the whole purpose of "threading" and are far more dense to search in finding if problems have been previously reported[2].
Could you make a specific rule dissuading people from this way of posting please?
[1]Everyone responding to each other in a non-linear fashion with added noise of many other points being discussed simultaneously.
[2]Problems should have a clear title, individual threads will yield far less 'noise' when being searched for (a single click to the thread rather than fighting your way through 200 posts). Meta-threads lose content within them when searched for, and make it harder to find specific information. One also fails to get an overview of 'hot' bugs from looking at the forum, as there is only a heavily updated single thread with no visible 'content'.
Could you make a specific rule dissuading people from this way of posting please?
[1]Everyone responding to each other in a non-linear fashion with added noise of many other points being discussed simultaneously.
[2]Problems should have a clear title, individual threads will yield far less 'noise' when being searched for (a single click to the thread rather than fighting your way through 200 posts). Meta-threads lose content within them when searched for, and make it harder to find specific information. One also fails to get an overview of 'hot' bugs from looking at the forum, as there is only a heavily updated single thread with no visible 'content'.
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Excellent point.
Such a thread in itself is not harmful, but issues get buried in the thread, rather than being available from the forum overview.
A "list all bugs" thread can be somewhat useful, but not for specific reporting. It can only be used as a kind of "last minute look" at the list. But it cannot be used for regular testing and reporting.
Such a thread in itself is not harmful, but issues get buried in the thread, rather than being available from the forum overview.
A "list all bugs" thread can be somewhat useful, but not for specific reporting. It can only be used as a kind of "last minute look" at the list. But it cannot be used for regular testing and reporting.
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Perhaps a preferrable alternative to a user-run "list all bugs here" thread would be an Opera-run, sticky, "Opera 7.2b Issues/Bugs Already Reported" (limited to bugs reported in the forum, of course - no need to maintain a wholly separate bug list). In such a thread each post, entered at the Opera reps' leisure, would consist of a brief one or two sentence description of the issue/bug, and a link to the thread where the bug was brought up, discussed, etc.
This might be useful to the developers as a concise, non-littered checklist; to beta testers as a way to avoid reporting or digging into old issues; to beta users as a quick way to locate work-arounds; and to testing veterans as a way to simply tell newbies to RTFST (ST = sticky thread), rather than having to do a search, find the thread which already dealt with their issue, insult the newbie, and link to the thread.
This might be useful to the developers as a concise, non-littered checklist; to beta testers as a way to avoid reporting or digging into old issues; to beta users as a quick way to locate work-arounds; and to testing veterans as a way to simply tell newbies to RTFST (ST = sticky thread), rather than having to do a search, find the thread which already dealt with their issue, insult the newbie, and link to the thread.
We are not allowed to publish official "known issues" lists, so that is not possible. Sorry.
And please don't try to convince me that it would be a good idea. I am not the one who needs to be convinced (it is not my call), and we've had numerous discussions about this in the past
And please don't try to convince me that it would be a good idea. I am not the one who needs to be convinced (it is not my call), and we've had numerous discussions about this in the past
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I would like to remind everyone of these rules - they apply for the latest betas/previews as well.
And remember - this thread is not here for problem reports. Please post in other threads about problems and issues, or create a new thread.
That goes for any problems you might have. Any such posts to this thread will be deleted.
And remember - this thread is not here for problem reports. Please post in other threads about problems and issues, or create a new thread.
That goes for any problems you might have. Any such posts to this thread will be deleted.
The Opera Ninja recommends a forum search to find answers to your questions
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Håvard Kvam Moen @ My Opera / Twitter
Originally posted by haavard
We are not allowed to publish official "known issues" lists, so that is not possible.
Would you have any objection to an unofficial, "official" list? Assuming one of the mods would be willing to undertake editing it (e.g. deleting irrelivent or duplicate posts). It could be open for everyone to post in and restarted for each and every beta/preview release.
Any Mod willing to assume the mantel?
If a moderator maintains the list it becomes official in everyone's eyes. To be an unofficial list it would have to be edited by an enterprising non-moderator. Would you like to undertake this project? Whomever makes the first post to create the thread is able to edit that post to keep up with changes...
The problem with satire is that it cannot be understood by the people who most need it.
A non-moderator would be unable to delete anyone else's posts. We can try it, but I predict it would have a relatively low signal-to-noise ratio.
Someone could put a blog, or a Wiki, on their website, and keep the list there.
Then we could all link to it in our sigs...
Then we could all link to it in our sigs...
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Originally posted by GT500
Someone could put a blog, or a Wiki, on their website, and keep the list there.
Then we could all link to it in our sigs...
Started one, please link your sig to it....(dont forget to update it for more recent versions)
and the address is....?? - I hope you have the bandwidth for the deluge of replies...
Opera10.10 still here : ) (and the rest...) {Classic is better!}Desktop team blog!)
XPhomeSP2,P4(1.2Ghz,mx400) :star:Nokia5800XM V210025 make a bug report, so the next one will be better!!
browser stats! tell me better.. Get a skin!! Get a button!! Dont believe the myths!!
{Classic is better!}Desktop team blog!)XPhomeSP2,P4(1.2Ghz,mx400) :star:Nokia5800XM V210025 make a bug report,
so the next one will be better!!browser stats! tell me better..
Get a skin!! Get a button!! Dont believe the myths!! Originally posted by illiad
and the address is....?? - I hope you have the bandwidth for the deluge of replies...
It's in chaimav's sig...Opera 10.0 (build 1589) * JRE 6.0u13 * Flash 10,0,22,87 * Dell Latitude D630 * Windows XP Pro SP3 * 2.5GHz Core 2 Duo * 2GB RAM
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Originally posted by GT500
Someone could put a blog, or a Wiki, on their website, and keep the list there.
Then we could all link to it in our sigs...
I don't think he meant in the opera forum.... (but I'll keep looking, if he changes it...)
Opera10.10 still here : ) (and the rest...) {Classic is better!}Desktop team blog!)
XPhomeSP2,P4(1.2Ghz,mx400) :star:Nokia5800XM V210025 make a bug report, so the next one will be better!!
browser stats! tell me better.. Get a skin!! Get a button!! Dont believe the myths!!
{Classic is better!}Desktop team blog!)XPhomeSP2,P4(1.2Ghz,mx400) :star:Nokia5800XM V210025 make a bug report,
so the next one will be better!!browser stats! tell me better..
Get a skin!! Get a button!! Dont believe the myths!! Originally posted by illiad
I don't think he meant in the opera forum.... (but I'll keep looking, if he changes it...)
I was thinking, originally, that a non-sticky topic could fall off of the first page, and become lost. But if we all link to it in our sigs (like I have) then we should always be able to find it...
[My Website]
GT500.org Forums -- Blog -- TeamSpeak -- Several Critiques of Opera 10
[Security Wiki]
Main Page -- Keeping Your Computer Clean
[System Specs]
For those who either need to know, or are just curious.
[Computers and Security]
BleepingComputer -- What the Tech -- Geeks to Go! -- BestTechie -- Microsoft Security Essentials -- Sponsored Search Results Lead to Malware -- S!Ri.URZ Research Blog
GT500.org Forums -- Blog -- TeamSpeak -- Several Critiques of Opera 10
[Security Wiki]
Main Page -- Keeping Your Computer Clean
[System Specs]
For those who either need to know, or are just curious.
[Computers and Security]
BleepingComputer -- What the Tech -- Geeks to Go! -- BestTechie -- Microsoft Security Essentials -- Sponsored Search Results Lead to Malware -- S!Ri.URZ Research Blog
downloaded and installed beta version
instructed install c:\opera rather than program files
overwrote existing opera
download times faster
but...
became unstable, ate cpu, failed restore screen and crashed, needing to close
reverted to stable version
will test again when more leisure time available
instructed install c:\opera rather than program files
overwrote existing opera
download times faster
but...
became unstable, ate cpu, failed restore screen and crashed, needing to close
reverted to stable version
will test again when more leisure time available
sony vaoi is the posh totty of laptops, hoojum cubit is the posh totty of desktops, PCLinuxOS is the posh totty of operating systems and opera is the posh totty of web browsers. put them all together and you have the superlative posh totty of computing systems.
PCLinuxOS on shuttle fn41, fs40, antec/gigabyte, sony vaio, inspiron 510m
PCLinuxOS on shuttle fn41, fs40, antec/gigabyte, sony vaio, inspiron 510m
Bad move.Originally posted by jaydot
overwrote existing opera
Heh -- nice post number: 11111
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I hope this cab be usefoul:
0) Unfortunatly some in some websites are incompatible
Problem Example: to enter in my personal area at the www.intesabci.it
1) IMAP - Using imap protocol to access in my mailbox:
Opera mail show me the new messages but when i try to read them is impossible to download the body.
Example of Problem: using pop.tiscali.it as imap server.
2)RSS feeds - they stops to arrive
They comes regularly for weeks and then for some days the stops, but going to the web site and subscribing again you can recive all the lost messages.
Example of Problem: in the www.tomshw.com rrs
3) Bittorrent 8.10tp
some creshes (mot so much) and when if you`ve to delete one file just downloaded (not shered, also after quit of sharing) you can't except closing and opening again Opera
Also some traker (with autentication required) refused Opera
Example of Problem: (link in mininova.org)
4) Some errors (the radio can't start or it suddenly stops) playing on air radio with media player (maybe media player fault), but using mozilla no problem. Or Also using vlc pluging indtead of mplayer is ok
5)i can`t use ftp to upload. I think it is not implemented, but it could be easy to add..
0) Unfortunatly some in some websites are incompatible
Problem Example: to enter in my personal area at the www.intesabci.it
1) IMAP - Using imap protocol to access in my mailbox:
Opera mail show me the new messages but when i try to read them is impossible to download the body.
Example of Problem: using pop.tiscali.it as imap server.
2)RSS feeds - they stops to arrive
They comes regularly for weeks and then for some days the stops, but going to the web site and subscribing again you can recive all the lost messages.
Example of Problem: in the www.tomshw.com rrs
3) Bittorrent 8.10tp
some creshes (mot so much) and when if you`ve to delete one file just downloaded (not shered, also after quit of sharing) you can't except closing and opening again Opera
Also some traker (with autentication required) refused Opera
Example of Problem: (link in mininova.org)
4) Some errors (the radio can't start or it suddenly stops) playing on air radio with media player (maybe media player fault), but using mozilla no problem. Or Also using vlc pluging indtead of mplayer is ok
5)i can`t use ftp to upload. I think it is not implemented, but it could be easy to add..
I hope this cab be usefoul:
0) Unfortunatly some in some websites are incompatible
Problem Example: to enter in my personal area at the www.intesabci.it
1) IMAP - Using imap protocol to access in my mailbox:
Opera mail show me the new messages but when i try to read them is impossible to download the body.
Example of Problem: using pop.tiscali.it as imap server.
2)RSS feeds - they stops to arrive
They comes regularly for weeks and then for some days the stops, but going to the web site and subscribing again you can recive all the lost messages.
Example of Problem: in the www.tomshw.com rrs
3) Bittorrent 8.10tp
some creshes (mot so much) and when if you`ve to delete one file just downloaded (not shered, also after quit of sharing) you can't except closing and opening again Opera
Also some traker (with autentication required) refused Opera
Example of Problem: (link in mininova.org)
4) Some errors (the radio can't start or it suddenly stops) playing on air radio with media player (maybe media player fault), but using mozilla no problem. Or Also using vlc pluging indtead of mplayer is ok
5)i can`t use ftp to upload. I think it is not implemented, but it could be easy to add..
0) Unfortunatly some in some websites are incompatible
Problem Example: to enter in my personal area at the www.intesabci.it
1) IMAP - Using imap protocol to access in my mailbox:
Opera mail show me the new messages but when i try to read them is impossible to download the body.
Example of Problem: using pop.tiscali.it as imap server.
2)RSS feeds - they stops to arrive
They comes regularly for weeks and then for some days the stops, but going to the web site and subscribing again you can recive all the lost messages.
Example of Problem: in the www.tomshw.com rrs
3) Bittorrent 8.10tp
some creshes (mot so much) and when if you`ve to delete one file just downloaded (not shered, also after quit of sharing) you can't except closing and opening again Opera
Also some traker (with autentication required) refused Opera
Example of Problem: (link in mininova.org)
4) Some errors (the radio can't start or it suddenly stops) playing on air radio with media player (maybe media player fault), but using mozilla no problem. Or Also using vlc pluging indtead of mplayer is ok
5)i can`t use ftp to upload. I think it is not implemented, but it could be easy to add..
welcome to the forums, 2-d. You've posted in the wrong thread. This one is about Beta Testing Rules.
1. Problems with websites should be reported in either General Opera Discussion or in Open the Web.
2/3. IMAP and RSS problems can be reported in Mail, newsgroups, chat, and newsfeeds.
4. Plug-in related problems belong in General Opera Discussion.
5. Wishes go to the Wish-list forum.
Also, please do a search before starting new topics; most of your questions/remarks have been discussed before.
1. Problems with websites should be reported in either General Opera Discussion or in Open the Web.
2/3. IMAP and RSS problems can be reported in Mail, newsgroups, chat, and newsfeeds.
4. Plug-in related problems belong in General Opera Discussion.
5. Wishes go to the Wish-list forum.
Also, please do a search before starting new topics; most of your questions/remarks have been discussed before.
Aprendí a ser formal y cortés, cortándome el pelo una vez por mes.
Mentioning bugs in this thread won't help I'm afraid
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Where are you seeing "issyes"?
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someone fixed it before you saw it.
lucky google has a cache of this page
http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:zpt7lzD1pEEJ:my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml%3Fid%3D23497+site:my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml%3Fid%3D23497+issyes&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=opera
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Originally posted by haavard:
Where are you seeing "issyes"?
lucky google has a cache of this page
http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:zpt7lzD1pEEJ:my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml%3Fid%3D23497+site:my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml%3Fid%3D23497+issyes&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=opera
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I'm not seeing "issyes" in the cache either.
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23. December 2009, 15:31:49 (edited)
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I think you should add this link to the first post
How to submit good bug reports
link--> http://www.opera.com/support/bugs/
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Their right to be free men,
Their desire to live in peace,
Their courage to seek out truth,
Herein lies the Sword of Shannara.
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Originally posted by yousaf465:
Has anyone tried Speak feature in opera it's working for me in opera 11.111 beta.
hello ,
I can tell you that it has stopped working after that build . Voice is not working in 1128 or 1133 a bug report has be filed .
cheers!!
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Originally posted by RomDos:
Originally posted by yousaf465:
Has anyone tried Speak feature in opera it's working for me in opera 11.111 beta.
hello ,
I can tell you that it has stopped working after that build . Voice is not working in 1128 or 1133 a bug report has be filed .
cheers!!
So i shouldn't upgrade to these version. Is it working in opera 1100.1140 ?
14. December 2010, 04:37:15 (edited)
Originally posted by haavard:
I would like to remind everyone of these rules - they apply for the latest betas/previews as well.
And remember - this thread is not here for problem reports. Please post in other threads about problems and issues, or create a new thread.
That goes for any problems you might have. Any such posts to this thread will be deleted.
Well, talk about not being clear, you say this thread is "NOT here for problem reports", yet in your first post on this thread you say:
"Be specific when reporting problems.
Remember to include details about the problem, such as operating system, exact URL (if any), the exact error message(s), and so on.
So where do I go to report problems, here, or not here?
I'm not sure what's unclear. This particular thread is not here for problem reports. You should create separate threads for that.
Maybe you don't understand the difference between a forum and a thread (or topic). A thread deals with a specific issue/topic, while a forum is a "group" where issues/topics related to that are discussed.
Maybe you don't understand the difference between a forum and a thread (or topic). A thread deals with a specific issue/topic, while a forum is a "group" where issues/topics related to that are discussed.
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Originally posted by haavard:
Reporting crash bugs: http://www.opera.com/support/search/view/790/
Originally posted by www.opera.com/support/search/view/790/:
We are sorry, this page is not available.
Thanks. Removed.
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