Images in transfers!? AGAIN?!

Images in transfers!? AGAIN?!

I have't seen this reported anywhere so I have to ask... Is anyone else having saved images appearing in transfers, just like in buggy Opera 9.00?!

Yup. And has been this way during the entire testing period . A lot of people complained but this "feature" made into the stable release anyway.

And look at this the green LED is still on and the download is done.

Oh no! I don't want my images in the Transfer window!

It isn't a configuration setting by any chance?

How do you make it so that you can save pictures the old way without the transfer tab whilst still using it for other files?

I don't know why it's been changed like this, it's really annoying.

Originally posted by Diego1981:

How do you make it so that you can save pictures the old way without the transfer tab whilst still using it for other files?

I don't know why it's been changed like this, it's really annoying.

No how. You wait for Opera 9.51. If we're lucky, they'll remove it again, just like they did in 9.01.

Originally posted by veggen:

If we're lucky, they'll remove it again, just like they did in 9.01.

That is a nice thought, hope it happens.

Me too.

I hope they get it fixed soon, that is sooo annoying!

Bump!

So there's aboslutely no way to fix this? It's driving me insane!

No, currently, there is no setting to control this behavior.

Just to clarify: officially this is not a bug but considered to be a feature.

Folks, just keep complaining. The more the better. That's the only way how we can convince them to change that annoying behaviour.

Hi,

I found the feature annoying, too. And, my biggest question is, why has this change made, in the first place? What benefit does it bring? and to whom?

Normally, any feature has upsides and downsides. But, I can see only downsides in this feature. On the other hand, I don't think Opera developers are so dumb as to introduce a new feature that has only downsides. So, I'd like to hear an explanation for the new feature at least.

Cheers,
Ryo

WOW! Have you guys noticed that not only do images get displayed on transfers, BUT you CAN NOT save images form locally saved pages! Opera redownloads the image EVERY time you try to save it!! So, when attempting to save the image from a local copy of the page - it fails, becasue it tries to retransfer it!
I have to repeat this: this is just like the buggy 9.00 used to behave! A 2 years old bug is ressurected!

P.S.
Yes, I know it should be a feature and not a bug, but everything that was killed once because of its stupidity and than gets reintroduced is a bug in my vocabulary. Because it bugs me.

I hate this feature as well, most of us have a pretty fast connection to the web and do not need have pictures it the download manager to retransfer. Another thing that has changed is it doesn't remember your last saved location in the browser. I have my default location which is cool but it only remembers it during your session and returns to default when closing. Most ever application that I'm away of remembers your last download location.

thanks we must move ahead with Opera but at the same time I hate removing features that make sense and are useful

I always use ctrl+left mouse click to save an image. This way it does not redownload the image and does not add it to transfer menu.
On top of that it's much faster/easier than using the context menu.

Originally posted by veggen:

WOW! Have you guys noticed that not only do images get displayed on transfers, BUT you CAN NOT save images form locally saved pages! Opera redownloads the image EVERY time you try to save it!! So, when attempting to save the image from a local copy of the page - it fails, becasue it tries to retransfer it!
I have to repeat this: this is just like the buggy 9.00 used to behave! A 2 years old bug is ressurected!

P.S.
Yes, I know it should be a feature and not a bug, but everything that was killed once because of its stupidity and than gets reintroduced is a bug in my vocabulary. Because it bugs me.

Yeah I've noticed this too and and it's really annoying, wastes time and bandwidth, it looks like they've gone backwards hoping nobody would notice and if they do then call it a feature.

Originally posted by patrick143:

I always use ctrl+left mouse click to save an image. This way it does not redownload the image and does not add it to transfer menu.
On top of that it's much faster/easier than using the context menu.

The transfer tab still opens and the file is still displayed in there too.

This reloading stuff is a nuisance, and should be changed ASAP!
I would even consider that as a bug, for a modern browser...

Whereas the entries of downloaded images in the transfers list are really helpful for me, because I am keeping these transfer lists as an easy proof where images came from.

Many don't like this, therefore simply MAKE IT AN OPTION, please!
Shouldn't be that hard...

Originally posted by veggen:

you CAN NOT save images form locally saved pages! Opera redownloads the image EVERY time you try to save it!! So, when attempting to save the image from a local copy of the page - it fails, becasue it tries to retransfer it!

Does anyone know if a bug report has been filed on this issue?

I've got to add my vote here for the option to disable this "feature" as well - I hated it when Firefox thought it up, and I think it is the most annoying thing added into 9.5. Mostly, because the other annoying things I was able to disable or reconfigure to suit me, but this doesn't have any options other than "it's a feature, so you must use it".

Well, they should make it an option. I've put the transfer window to 'Never show when starting downloads', But I do get an message in lower right of my screen telling me when a download is complete and it's annoying to see that showing up for every single image.

Originally posted by Turin:

Does anyone know if a bug report has been filed on this issue?

I searched both in the beta forum and in Remco's unofficial BTS and didn't find anything.

Originally posted by MetalRaise:

Stable: 9.27.8841 • Experimental: 9.50.10063 (rumors say it's final but in fact it's Beta 3)

Very nice

Back to topic: I don't think anyone really needs saved images shown in transfers, but if the devs think, this is the "right" way (as you are in fact downloading something) then saving whole pages should be shown in transfers, too
And to make things even worse: Isn't the content in cache something that's also downloaded? Maybe put that in transfers, too

Originally posted by Binka:

I don't think anyone really needs saved images shown in transfers

I disrespectfully disagree...
Apparently other people's habits and usage are meaningless to you and/or you don't even follow that discussion here.
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=2603031

Why should one respect your opinions, though?

Originally posted by Binka:

Very nice

Yes, it might be useful to one, but might be useless to someone else. So why not make it an option? Probably the best and most simple solution.

Originally posted by MetalRaise:

So why not make it an option? Probably the best and most simple solution

Exactly what I have been asking for...
Thanks!

After reading the thread full of complaints the last time this happened, I can't imagine why Opera's put images back in transfers again.

I hope Opera gets the message, because it becomes very tedious having to close the transfer tab and clear out the pictures from the list incessantly.

Originally posted by wunage:

And look at this the green LED is still on and the download is done.

This annoys me to no end. Please change it back!

brand new to Opera, 9.5 is my first version, just weighing in after a few days... the opening of another tab every time an image is saved is just one of those developer brain farts that happens in a dark room after 6 months of caffeine and no contact with the outside, real world. It is simply insane behavior. You wouldn't tolerate it in your child or your boss. The developers should sheepily say, "Yeah, you're right, we were stoned, we'll fix that right away".

As to images in the Transfer window, some of us, me included, download a lot of images and having a MUCH nicer version of the FF Download window open to monitor multiple, concurrent image downloads is a bonus, not an annoyance (especially since occasionally an image downloads into cache, but has to re-downloaded to put it into its proper location. Don't know what's up with that...).

Ideally for all, transfer window behavior should be configurable. In my own less-demanding ideal world, I open one transfer window manually that monitors all downloads as currently, and no transfer tab is ever opened automatically against my will.

Originally posted by matiasw:

Originally posted by wunage:

And look at this the green LED is still on and the download is done.

This annoys me to no end. Please change it back!

This LED should signalize the end of sucessful transfers by changing to a dark black bullet, IMO.

+1 in favor of making this feature optional. Annoying!

Downloading a 2KB image by using download manager... This is really annoying... This must be optinonal at least...

yes opera please remove it!

if they want pictures on transfer, they can create an option in the links panel to download certain file like jpgs, or flvs in bulks!

Originally posted by veggen:

WOW! Have you guys noticed that not only do images get displayed on transfers, BUT you CAN NOT save images form locally saved pages! Opera redownloads the image EVERY time you try to save it!! So, when attempting to save the image from a local copy of the page - it fails, becasue it tries to retransfer it!

Has this been confirmed? This looks sad especially if you try to download an very huge filesize image, combined with the UI Redrawing Freeze Bug.

plz desable this thing, it's soooo annoying, or at least make it optional or something. it's just frikin iritating to open the transfer everytime you save an image, or of you disable it, not opening it when you need it to open as search for it every time, plz change it back.

Originally posted by HaJotKE:

This reloading stuff is a nuisance, and should be changed ASAP!
I would even consider that as a bug, for a modern browser...

Whereas the entries of downloaded images in the transfers list are really helpful for me, because I am keeping these transfer lists as an easy proof where images came from.

+1

Keep the image in the transfers lists or not. I don't care.

But reloading an image that's already been downloaded when saving it, has to be changed back. I just hope it's a bug and not a "feature".

It's amazing to me that Opera would copy one of FireFox's stupidest features, while giving up Opera's own superior way of doing things. It might seem to developers to be such a small thing, but it is a very large annoyance. If in fact it also redownloads from the net in order to save, as FireFox does, then it is wasting internet bandwidth both for the individual user and for the internet as a whole by adding useless extra load to it.

Redownload for save may also be related to the elimination of file extensions from the cache. Having extensions has never been a security problem for me in my 11+ years on the 'net. And I don't even use anti-virus software. Never caught a virus in all that time.

Originally posted by firstnight:

Redownload for save may also be related to the elimination of file extensions from the cache. Having extensions has never been a security problem for me in my 11+ years on the 'net. And I don't even use anti-virus software. Never caught a virus in all that time.

I was thinking the same thing but then I checked opera:cache and believe it or not, the picture is there. It IS already on the harddrive, you can open it from opera:cache and save it directly with a picture viewer. But if you wanna save it from opera, it redownloads the very same picture again. It just HAS to be a bug.

Originally posted by firstnight:

Redownload for save may also be related to the elimination of file extensions from the cache.

I hope it is not related to this as that was a not particularly thought out move in my opinion. To repeat myself and BunkFace from this thread, has this issue been confirmed and bug reported?

Having extensions has never been a security problem for me in my 11+ years on the 'net.

Never been a problem for me either.

Originally posted by rnrgal:

+1 in favor of making this feature optional. Annoying!

+1!

Originally posted by ApuNahasapeemapetilon:

I was thinking the same thing but then I checked opera:cache and believe it or not, the picture is there. It IS already on the harddrive, you can open it from opera:cache and save it directly with a picture viewer. But if you wanna save it from opera, it redownloads the very same picture again. It just HAS to be a bug.

The pictures are there in the cache, but with no extensions my pic viewer [IrfanView] cannot tell which file is a pic. I have to click on each individual file [out of hundreds] with the viewer to see if it will display it or not. What a PITA. And also, without extensions [yes, I make the OS display extensions on all files], the viewer cannot in its thumbnail mode display all pics in the directory as thumbnails; the pics do not show at all.

Just open the file with a text editor (I use Total Commander) and look at the header. JPEG files are easily recognizable.

I meant opera:cache. The picture is there and you can see the ending and open it from there, too. Actually this is quite a good feature if it had some means of sorting the files.

Aargh, just found out, if you right-click it and choose "save to download folder" it redownloads the file yet again even though the file's virtually right in front of you and already on the disc.

I have noticed that behaviour too. In my case I am using a proxy cache which alleviates that issue.

Originally posted by pparker:

Ideally for all, transfer window behavior should be configurable. In my own less-demanding ideal world, I open one transfer window manually that monitors all downloads as currently, and no transfer tab is ever opened automatically against my will.

And so it is. On the transfer tab select View...Never show when starting download. Then just use the panel (F4) when you want to view downloads, or Tools..Transfers.

Seb

Unfortunately the panel does not show the data I want to see simultaneously, but instead cycles through it so I have wait instead of taking it all in with a single glance.

Well, 9.51 snapshot is out and there is no mention of this so either it hasn't been reported as a bug or they consider it a feature.

please do change this "feature" to optional it bothers a lot.

Ok, the same over here, It would be a nice change if they put this as a optional feature on the opera:config or something like that, I mean... would be better if we can choose to show or not the images downloads on the download tab.

As a webmaster,this feature is too much annoying.

Annoying

+1