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Friday, 13. June 2008, 23:02:33

arghwashier

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Opera's lost features, which should really come back?

Over time Opera has gotten many many new features but sometimes other features have been hidden in deep inside opera:config or purposely disabled by default.

My 4 favourite "lost" features are :
- Enable Drag which lets you drag images and show their url
- the panel advanced view by default; once opening panels gave you a fat more detailed view, now you have to add the >> button, which opens a new tab beside the panel to get all the useful info.
- The mdi buttons, once opera had a close button for tabs on a fixed position on the top right (plus some other window manipulation buttons) they have been replaced by close buttons on tabs.
-Fixed position open tab on the left

Which long gone features do you think should return to Peregrine?

Saturday, 14. June 2008, 00:08:03

shoust

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Originally posted by arghwashier:

- The mdi buttons, once opera had a close button for tabs on a fixed position on the top right (plus some other window manipulation buttons) they have been replaced by close buttons on tabs.
-Fixed position open tab on the left



- Uncheck "show close buttons on each tab".
- Hold shift, and drag new tab button to the left of the panel toggle button (it should place new tab button there besides it), then right click the moving new tab button > remove from toolbar.

Saturday, 14. June 2008, 01:59:09

  • Auto-centering of mouse cursor when activating auto-scroll.
  • Windows Explorer shell entries (delete, cut, copy, etc.) in context menu of the file transfer dialog.

Saturday, 14. June 2008, 09:05:01

lnmx

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Originally posted by arghwashier:

- Enable Drag which lets you drag images and show their url
- the panel advanced view by default; once opening panels gave you a fat more detailed view, now you have to add the >> button, which opens a new tab beside the panel to get all the useful info.
- The mdi buttons, once opera had a close button for tabs on a fixed position on the top right (plus some other window manipulation buttons) they have been replaced by close buttons on tabs.



image drag working for me. dunno if it importing configuration while upgrading or Tools -> Appearance -> Skin -> "opera_9_classic_skin-2". images url's are in image properties now and i belive right-click menu still configurable by manual editing "Opera\defaults\standard_menu.ini" and put it in "Opera\profile\menu\", then Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Toolbar -> Menu Setup (cant help w/ editing)

just set opera_9_classic_skin to solve other problems. i hate new tabview too, because favicon.ico cant be seen after you opened like 50 tabs.

Saturday, 14. June 2008, 11:11:09

arghwashier

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Originally posted by MetalRaise:

  • Windows Explorer shell entries (delete, cut, copy, etc.) in context menu of the file transfer dialog.


they took it out under windows too? it is one feature I still really miss in opera linux :frown:

Saturday, 14. June 2008, 11:59:13

serious

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Austria

  • download item menu -> shell integration (although I would allready be quite happy with a delete function)
  • default options: mdi, window with no tabs, ...
  • ctrl+n = new page ^^
  • the prefs menu also was better allready
  • pannel extender button
  • pannel toggle on side of screen
  • jabber integration (hey, they allready had ICQ once)
  • skin :wink: (no, the new one is quite nice imo)


greetings
serious

Monday, 30. June 2008, 14:49:32

daHOOK

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  • Once a cookie is accepted via prompt, do not prompt for updates
  • Hotkeys to accept/reject cookies in the prompt dialog box instead of cycling through the dropdown menu
  • Separate options for first-party and third-party cookies
  • Separate part of the button for dropdown lists on the Next - Previous arrows, rather than click and hold
  • Easy-to-use build-your-own skins
  • Duplicate window/tab
  • Open page/frame source in WordPad or an external text editor (if it's a local page, of course I want to save changes and overwrite the old file!)

Monday, 30. June 2008, 16:57:42

dude09

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Oh, great... Another thread that probably won't be read by any Opera staff...
Oh well, I might as well add my list here:

1. Auto-scroll with auto-centered cursor behavior.

2. Smoother "smooth-scrolling", kinda like 9.2x smooth-scrolling style...

3. Default for enabled Single-key shortcuts. (No big deal, but it will make my fresh installation process easier)

4. Colorful icons & buttons for standard skin. (Yes, I'm using the "Opera Classic" skin)

Tuesday, 1. July 2008, 04:51:35 (edited)

bpm

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Real detach: clean simple floating pane, by dragging tab to title bar. It was pretty magical. 9.5's version fails miserably if you try to detach an unmaximized pane (try it, or see here).

And this one is on another level of importance: BUILT-IN BACKUP. Automatic daily backup of notes, bookmarks, config files - and one-click backup on the File menu too. Preventing tragedies. Astonishing that it was removed.

Monday, 30. June 2008, 19:27:45

HaJotKE

Grumbling Hyper-Critical Cantankerous Curmudgeon!

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Originally posted by bpm:

Real detach: clean simple floating pane, by dragging tab to title bar. (Yes, I know I can put "detach & hide menu & hide all toolbars" on the context menu - but the drag-and-drop simplicity was pretty magical. Ideal solution: drag for classical detach, shift+drag to spawn new full-bore browser window.)

Fully supported! :up:
This is really very important for me...

Tuesday, 1. July 2008, 09:16:27 (edited)

JimDandy

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I'm going to put this out there for a laugh but I haven't tried this in a while so don't know how it works lately:
www.website.com/page/clip.wmv You had this URL ready to paste from somewhere but it doesn't appear in a page so no 'save as' was available. If Opera was set to open .wmv files in a page but you wanted to download this wmv, you couldn't (afaik) unless you used a workaround. You could paste the URL in to Google search and press go, the URL would then be displayed in the resulting page which you could 'save as'. :happy:
I just remember being gutted when you could no longer do this. I think Google changed the page format or something but it was quite frustrating for a while not being able to download my wmvs. :cry:

The bold used to be a link


Tuesday, 1. July 2008, 13:08:26

alicroche

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Real detach: clean simple floating pane, by dragging tab to title bar. (Yes, I know I can put "detach & hide menu & hide all toolbars" on the context menu - but the drag-and-drop simplicity was pretty magical. Ideal solution: drag for classical detach, shift+drag to spawn new full-bore browser window.)


+1
Gmail chat is much more usable with that one.

Thursday, 3. July 2008, 08:57:14

Tezar

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Missing free link dragging to tabs without holding shift key (see http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=238034 for details)

Also, kind of surprised that Opera seems to regress in 9.5X - they killed so many useful features, there is no real explanation why (usually saying something about newbies, which IMO a very bad reason for change) while leaving the browser less stable/useable overall...

Thursday, 10. July 2008, 22:44:38

Originally posted by MetalRaise:

  • Auto-centering of mouse cursor when activating auto-scroll.


i didnt liked that feature!

i miss the "paste and go" option when doing a quick search
(with v9.27 i could eg insert y in address bar, then rightclick address bar and choose "paste and go". with v9.50 i can only choose "paste" and then have to hit enter)

Friday, 11. July 2008, 08:48:35

Leevi

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Finland

Originally posted by ***markuss***:


i miss the "paste and go" option when doing a quick search
(with v9.27 i could eg insert y in address bar, then rightclick address bar and choose "paste and go". with v9.50 i can only choose "paste" and then have to hit enter)



Odd that the "Paste and Go" is missing from the rightclick menu if something is written on the address bar..., but Paste and go is still working, keyboard shortcut was changed from Ctrl+B to Ctrl+Shift+V though.

Saturday, 12. July 2008, 13:38:50

Originally posted by Leevi:

..., but Paste and go is still working, keyboard shortcut was changed from Ctrl+B to Ctrl+Shift+V though.


thats right.
unfortunately editing the menu.ini file ([Edit Widget Popup Menu] Item, M_PASTE_AND_GO = Paste and go ) doesnt work.

Tuesday, 15. July 2008, 20:52:15

timmertc

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Originally posted by bpm:

Real detach: clean simple floating pane, by dragging tab to title bar. It was pretty magical. 9.5's version fails miserably if you try to detach an unmaximized pane (try it, or see here).



I wholeheartedly agree with this one. It worked beautifully prior to 9.5. It was so wonderful to be able to detach a tab by dragging it out of the MDI frame and have just that tab show up all by itself. The new method that creates a new window is horrible, counter-intuitive, and is less productive.

Yes, there was a time or two when I accidentally closed the main Opera window with the X in the upper right corner while leaving an orphan floating tab, which subsequently lost all my current open tabs on the next restart, but choosing File, Exit avoids that problem easily.

Please bring it back!

Wednesday, 16. July 2008, 09:52:47

inv2004

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The option to disable new security feature: "Local servers can use remote resources, but not vice versa."

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=242550

Thursday, 11. September 2008, 03:28:04

Operetta

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Originally posted by MetalRaise:

  • Auto-centering of mouse cursor when activating auto-scroll.



I'm desperate to have this back.

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=242333

Thursday, 11. September 2008, 15:01:03

I still use 9.2 for Win and these features are still working:

Originally posted by users:


- Enable Drag which lets you drag images and show their url
- Windows Explorer shell entries (delete, cut, copy, etc.) in context menu of the file transfer dialog.
- pannel toggle on side of screen
- Duplicate window/tab



Originally posted by users:


unfortunately editing the menu.ini file ([Edit Widget Popup Menu] Item, M_PASTE_AND_GO = Paste and go ) doesnt work.


really sad :frown:


What i would like to have back:

- General Browser + OS Spoofing :smile:
- Google Ads :D
- a somewhat strange thing: a page is loaded; after about 30 seconds i switch to "show images" but no pictures will get loaded!



Thursday, 11. September 2008, 15:34:43

Originally posted by MetalRaise:

Auto-centering of mouse cursor when activating auto-scroll.



Originally posted by dude09:

1. Auto-scroll with auto-centered cursor behavior.



No, God damn it. If it comes back, it should be an option. I've probably lost *minutes* of my life moving my mouse back to where I mis-clicked a link with the middle mouse button.

Thursday, 11. September 2008, 18:55:40

Operetta

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Originally posted by BenRoth:

Originally posted by MetalRaise:

Auto-centering of mouse cursor when activating auto-scroll.



Originally posted by dude09:

1. Auto-scroll with auto-centered cursor behavior.



No, God damn it. If it comes back, it should be an option.



That's what we want.

Friday, 12. September 2008, 17:08:29

Operetta

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The ability to detatch a page and not have it be placed into a duplicate browser, but have it be in its own lightweight standalone window.

Friday, 12. September 2008, 19:28:58

HaJotKE

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Originally posted by Operetta:

The ability to detatch a page and not have it be placed into a duplicate browser, but have it be in its own lightweight standalone window.

I wonder what is so difficult or why OPERA devs are so reluctant concering this point... :frown:
The debugger feature Dragonfly does have it perfectly well, why don't they just enable this as an option for other pages, esp. for the manager pages? :confused:

Therefore I do have still to use V9.27... :down:

Friday, 12. September 2008, 19:52:31

dusk007

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I want just add that the one thing that's awesome about the Chrome Layout are the Tabs in the Titlebar (in full screen mode).
I can customize almost anything with the skin but to get the tabs up there I need the Opera team.
Chrome copied so much why not copy something from them in the next Layout update.

Saturday, 20. September 2008, 04:22:35

solotov

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For me, I want the following features back:

1. Auto-scroll with auto-centered cursor behavior, at least as an option.

2. Smoother "smooth-scrolling", kinda like 9.2x smooth-scrolling style.

3. Windows Explorer shell entries (delete, cut, copy, etc.) in context menu of the file transfer dialog.

Tuesday, 23. September 2008, 12:21:54

geeneeyes

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India

Originally posted by daHOOK:

  • Separate options for first-party and third-party cookies
  • Separate part of the button for dropdown lists on the Next - Previous arrows, rather than click and hold
  • Easy-to-use build-your-own skins
  • Absolutely agree
    +1 separate options for cookies from external sites
    +1 next-previous buttons should have dropdown history

    Originally posted by dude09:

    2. Smoother "smooth-scrolling", kinda like 9.2x smooth-scrolling style...
    3. Default for enabled Single-key shortcuts. (No big deal, but it will make my fresh installation process easier)
    4. Colorful icons & buttons for standard skin. (Yes, I'm using the "Opera Classic" skin)

    +1 smoother scrolling
    +1 enable single-key shortcuts by default... its part of Opera charm... new users get excited by its magic
    +1 black loox boring... Opera must include two three skins

    Originally posted by serious:

  • pannel extender button
  • pannel toggle on side of screen
  • jabber integration (hey, they allready had ICQ once)
  • if panel must be promoted, enable the toggle.. dont put extra button on toolbar

    Tuesday, 23. September 2008, 15:07:29

    hogther

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    +1 for the Jabber Messenger (instead of the older built-in ICQ messenger)

    Tuesday, 23. September 2008, 15:50:01

    newscpq

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    - CTRL+F7 full screen with viewable scroll bars

    Wednesday, 24. September 2008, 19:43:09

    svivian

    needs more cowbell

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    I'd love to see the return of "one-click bookmarks" - ie the star in the address bar. Pretty funny that Opera removed it and Firefox added it :smile:

    Thursday, 25. September 2008, 09:59:40

    Akdor1154

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    With regards to detaching tabs into a palette window, doesn't right-clicking tab -> Restore work like this?

    Saturday, 4. October 2008, 18:30:19

    ersi

    dio chiliades

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    Vomentakae

    Originally posted by svivian:

    I'd love to see the return of "one-click bookmarks" - ie the star in the address bar. Pretty funny that Opera removed it and Firefox added it :smile:

    I think Opera handles adding bookmarks correctly right now. Adding a bookmark throws up a dialog box where you can configure the folder and other options if necessary. This way, adding a bookmark works well from everywhere: as a keyboard shortcut, a menu line, a button.

    *Blind* adding would be desirable only if bookmark management had an option to save searches as a folder. For example, in bookmarks panel there is a menu line (via right-click) "Bookmark all open pages" which works blindly. This way you can't know into which folder all that stuff goes, it may go mixed together with other stuff that you already have, and then there's no way to separate all those added pages easily anymore.

    Thus, "Bookmark all open pages" feature doesn't work well as a keyboard shortcut or a button. However, it would, if it threw up a dialog box to set a folder or create a new folder for the new pages to be added. Or if bookmarks management would be able to search date and clocktime of the added pages and save that search as a folder.

    ***
    I have also started a topic requesting rebirth of a feature of My Opera Community, which seems to have been lost: setups upload & download in My Opera http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=251935

    Saturday, 4. October 2008, 19:19:50

    serious

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    Originally posted by geeneeyes:

    dont put extra button on toolbar


    yep, I don't like that button too (I assume you mean the new one in 9.5). with the "panel extender button" I meant the ">>" button in the open pannel (first thing I do in new install is to drag this and the old "x"-button there that does not close the panel menu ^^)

    Sunday, 5. October 2008, 02:30:39 (edited)

    arnyq

    Eat me if you can

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    This becomes something like a nostalgy thread of old Opera fans - it may bit all times popularity contest pretty fast. Who can possibly categorize all this and prioritise each proposal by the number of hits, as its usually done by staff with the Wish-List posts?

    But its fan to read about something, a casual user would never think existed or needed. :smile:
    Adding to this that RMC WE Shell Commands in Download Manager would be helpful - already added in 9.6 RMC-Advanced Option!
    New Windows or Tab Groups can be smarter integrated with existing Tabs in the same browser instance, which may require extra Bar - screen space permitting, so desired as Prefs Option.

    Monday, 13. October 2008, 03:15:14

    scant

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    I vote for detachable drag-and-drop tabs to the desktop. The way it used to work was fine, except for the bugs and unexpected behavior. The orphaned tab/window should just have a title bar, window border, window contents(web page contents), and that yellow strip (at the top of the window below the title bar) that displayed the web address. The user should have the ability to enable the address bar, etc on-demand per orphaned tab and the layout should not interfere with Opera's main window(s).

    Tuesday, 9. December 2008, 20:21:16

    FataL

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    I vote for detachable drag-and-drop tabs to the desktop.

    +100!
    Good-old tab detach + SSR (Shift+F11) + Reload every... = rulezzz!
    Vote here for return of useful real detach!

    I'd love to see the return of "one-click bookmarks" - ie the star in the address bar.

    +1
    Vote here for return of the Star.

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