Favicons randomly disappear in Opera 9.50

Favicons randomly disappear in Opera 9.50

Anyone else experiencing that? It happens randomly, I can't figure how or why. As I surf, icons disappear and I have to right - click and select properties and ok in order to make them re-appear.

This happens with any skin.

Now I have lived with this so long, I can be fairly sure that the icons of the websites that get visited are the only ones to blink out. So RNA Sawyer, I assume you hit that Facebook link early on, so is the first you see disappear.

I bet if you place Facebook as a SpeedDial entry, the icon will stay there all day without disappearing - unless you click on it. Then an hour or so later it is gone.

(I also think the "time" is actually number of pages. So the more different pages surfed, the quicker the icon disappears. Maybe. )

It is predictably senile, and they come back every day when I restart Opera. So I make sure my common icons are in between my less used ones so I can just click onthe gap to launch the page. Weirdly they are all behaving at the moment and I have been on this PC for 2.5 hours using Opera.

Mallen:

Tried that - didn't work. I erased the .idx file and placed facebook in my speed dial. Restarted Opera and the favicon was there. I then entered facebook from the speed dial, closed Opera, re-opened Opera and the favicon was gone. Needless to say there is a new .idx file.

While I was at it, I erased a whole pile of .idx files since they seem to do no good. Didn't help. I have several other sites in my Links bar and the favicons seem to stay, but other sites seem to be constantly affected.

This is more of an irritant than anything, but it would be nice if Opera could clean it up.

Stop deleting the idx files. They are supposed to be there as that is how Opera works. Those are the files used to keep track of the images. Open them in notepad and have a look. These are the temp files used to keep track of which icon goes with which webpage.

This bug is still in the version 10.x betas, so maybe they will get round to it after they finish that. It is a cosmetic thing and there are more interesting problems to work on. (And I assume none of the programmers use a Personal Toolbar or they would of addressed it by now)

Just try re-installing and saving your settings to a local disk. Opera newest works fine for me.

yeah i also experienced this problem. first time in some 9.x opera version. but this problem persist in 10 alpha as well.

the best way to solve this problem is manually putting icon urls in search.ini

for example the icon code for www.download.com will be as follow:

ICON=http://download.cnet.com/favicon.ico

----------------------------------------------------

also read this tutorial by dude09
http://my.opera.com/dude09/blog/searchedit-tutorial

download searchedit
http://files.opera-info.de/mikko/searchedit/searchedit.zip


but remember after all the editing by SearchEdit you will have to add the icon code MANUALLY.

It's a pretty old bug, and the only way to solve it is to (finally) fix it IMHO.

@leo khan - you are confused with a different issue. This is not the search icons. This is the Personal Bar icons. Bookmarks up there loose their icon.

You are talking about a different issue when setting up search icons. I had your search icon issue when I upgraded to 9.something, but soon fixed that one and it has never come back. Whereas the Personal Bar icons will reliably disapear each day after a few hours.

This is now a very old bug, and I assumed long ago that no one at Opera has been able to reproduce it as my old bug reports never got anywhere. Learnt to live with the madness - it is only cosmetic.

Originally posted by mallen:

@leo khan - you are confused with a different issue. This is not the search icons. This is the Personal Bar icons. Bookmarks up there loose their icon.

You are talking about a different issue when setting up search icons. I had your search icon issue when I upgraded to 9.something, but soon fixed that one and it has never come back. Whereas the Personal Bar icons will reliably disapear each day after a few hours.

This is now a very old bug, and I assumed long ago that no one at Opera has been able to reproduce it as my old bug reports never got anywhere. Learnt to live with the madness - it is only cosmetic.

yeah you are right. i got confused, most probably because i was very sleepy at the time of reading and posting to this topic. sorry i was wrong. will take care next time.

Originally posted by leo_khan:

yeah you are right. i got confused, most probably because i was very sleepy at the time of reading and posting to this topic. sorry i was wrong. will take care next time.

No worries. You didn't need to apologise. I just wanted to make sure no one else confused this thread and took this issue onto another tangent.

Originally posted by mallen:

No worries. You didn't need to apologise. I just wanted to make sure no one else confused this thread and took this issue onto another tangent.

Do you see these problems using older (9.2x) skins, or just with the new skin?

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Old skins. And in my case a personally hand crafted skin. I am pretty sure I also tested this out with no skin (i.e. just running the default 9.5x skin)

This is NOT the skin that is the problem. The icons disappearing are the "favicon.ico" icons that are stored with Bookmarks. They only disappear from the personal bar. And only for sites I have visited in this session. This is part of the operation of Opera. See this thread and others for more waffle on what is seen. Yes - we have tried all the obvious stuff.

And I think you may want to remove that stupidity quote from your signature as it feels like that is being directed to those you are helping. Calling someone you don't know stupid is not the best way to start a conversation. I guess you didn't mean it to come over like that, but it is easy to misread it like that.

Edit: Just for you, I have reverted to the Standard Skin to re-confirm this happens on all skins. Will update this post later this evening once the icons blink out.

Edit 2: And I return two hours later to report that even while running with the Standard Skin, the icons still blinked out. Comically I actually saw them all go this time. Again - ONLY the websites I have visited. Just over Two hours after starting up Opera. As I waved my cursor up towards the Personal Bar, about to click on a bookmark, all of the "used" icons blinked out together. A quick "wiggle" of the bookmark icon, dragging it a mm to the side, forces a redraw of the icon, and back it comes.

In 9.64 I dont have Icons in cookie manager. Favicons often do not appear in address bar, but that happend in all versions yet

(SIGH) Will this ever get fixed?

New Beta, build 1589
Problem still present :clown:

What are you guys doing as a work around in the meantime? Still using the Personal Bar? Side Bar? Something else?

I'd like to know what's working for you.

The side bar seems appealing in that I gain more vertical pixels. On the other hand it's annoying because most pages I'll need to horizontal scroll, and my darn trackpoint doesn't scroll horizontally in Opera.

Still use the personal bar. I know my icons by position, so even if there is a gap I know what it is. Pressing on the blank gap still works fine. And for those I have a title on, the gap is next to the words and easy to find.

A quick restart of Opera fixes in. Or just a small "drag and drop" to move it half a millimetre, and then move it back again. This is enough to redraw.

Ultimately - I live with it. Better than swapping to alternatives like Firefox

My bookmarklets are on the Main Bar, not the Personal Bar. In v9.27 the favicons disappear but can often be restored, though not just by reopening Opera. In v10 beta they never appear. This really is an unacceptable flaw.

Did 1723/4 finally do it?
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2009/08/20/more-snapshots

Fixed Bug DSK-229231 (Favicon disappears a while after clicking a boomark on the personal bar)

Originally posted by rseiler:

Fixed Bug DSK-229231 (Favicon disappears a while after clicking a boomark on the personal bar)

Seems to work, tho some favicons on PB are still missing even if they are showed correctly on the tab :|

This seems fixed to me in the latest 10.10 builds.

Originally posted by AdrianTM:

This seems fixed to me in the latest 10.10 builds.

In some ways, I'll be sorry to see the bug go. It has been around for so many years now it feels like an old friend.

I am still too nervous to install the 10 Betas as I rely on my M2 email too much. I need to know the email is bullet proof before I swap to the new browser.

Please fix this. It is just idiotic that it hasn't been fixed yet.

Originally posted by MVOperaSync:

Please fix this. It is just idiotic that it hasn't been fixed yet.

You're apparently not using the latest beta builds, right?

Originally posted by rseiler:

You're apparently not using the latest beta builds, right?

I guess he is also not reading this thread too closely

hmm... I've seen the problem in 10.00 builds but not in 10.10 (maybe chance?)

some of the icons are still disappearing in 10.00 build 1750

I have had 10.00 1750 on for the last few days, and the icons are behaving for me. As mentioned above, it feels like an old friend has disappeared. The original ancient bug has been squished. (All I did was install 10.00 on top of my old 9.xx edition)

When your icons disappear, do they come back if you do the old tricks listed above? i.e. a slight drag and drop to change position? Or a browser restart? And are the only icons disappearing being the ones you have used?

I too still see this as fixed. The only oddity I saw on a clean 10.0 install was some of the icons not showing up in the first place, at least in the time frame I waited for them to appear. They're easy to get there though: just do properties of the icon on the toolbar and click OK. They definitely don't disappear though.

This "feature" has been added back into 11.1.

Originally posted by rseiler:

This "feature" has been added back into 11.1.

+ 1

Highly annoying, especially when you set your bookmarks bar to icons only...

Oh you have to be kidding? How on earth do the programmers keep resurrecting bugs? This is just so sad to see the quality crumble in a chase for new features.

confirm ! that annoying bug is back again!

Yeah, in 11.10 the bug is there. Geez, why's that? Fix it, it's annoying

Confirm BUG returned in 11.10

Confirm. Please, fix this soon, this is unacceptable

It's been doing it to me the past week or two, though only for my IMDB icon (icon only - no text for it). I have another two that are only an icon, though they've been okay.

I really do not get it. Why does Opera do not keep repeating this kind of bug over an over again.
Once it is fixed it should keep staying fixed. It was fixed but not any more since I upgraded it to 11.10

Originally posted by Crsmsg:

Confirm BUG returned in 11.10

I had to dig this old thread up again, as I also found that this bug has returned.

And I have 2 new (for me) bugs:
When I close one tab, often another tab is also closed at the same time.
And when I left-click on a link, sometimes a menu pop-up appears. Seems like the mouse event goes haywire.

11.11 - still here. When I clear page history, history of download and date and time visited pages, it delete favicons too. WHY ?!?

Originally posted by JimmySmith:

11.11 - still here. When I clear page history, history of download and date and time visited pages, it delete favicons too. WHY ?!?

There is a simple answer to your question... I assume the favicons are being wiped as they would allow someone to work out which websites you have visited by the dates on the icons. So clearing History for Privacy reasons does logically remove the icons as well as these are stored in the same location as the favicons of ALL the websites you visit.

But... there should be some method to keep the favicons of Bookmarks in a separate location.

Looks like the new favicons were not thought through fully when the new method was implemented.

Just to be clear, anything that happens to favicons when clearing history is an additional issue apart from this thread.

It has been suggested in earlier posts that this problem is exacerbated by updating over previous versions of Opera. I have updated on my notebook from about #9 series until the present release (11.11) build 2109. My Win 7 desktop (64 bit), so far hasn't suffered from this problem, & it is a very recent clean install. Does anyone think that this is relevant?

P.S. I've just noticed my IMDb favicon has disappeared, I know other people have had problems with this particular favicon, but just clicking on it has brought it back. This favicon behaviour has also happened on SeaMonkey versions with IMDb in the past.

Just happened again with IMDb!

I have just seen this phenomenon for the first time on my desktop computer. C'mon Opera guys, fix this bug!

Yeah, confirm! This is a really annoying bug. Opera erases most of my bookmarks in Bookmarks Bar.

Somehow I suspect that it has something to do with this: I have many pages open (for example 20) when I shut down Opera. And when I restart Opera, it loads them again automatically. That requires quite a lot processor power and it slows down and interrupts bookmarks loading.

Opera team: please fix this horrible bug!

Yes, I have noticed that increased activity with tabs tends to initiate this bug. They have been having complaints for ages, I think it should be looked into. For a long time I never used the bookmarking toolbar as I didn't like it when it was above the address bar. Now it is more like other browsers I thought I would use it. Usually though, just clicking on the empty space of the missing icon brings it back.

Sometimes even without using tabs ...

Temporary solution for favicons disappearing. Folder "icons" in profile directory, just turn on the "read only" attribute in properties dialog of this folder (icons). But we are waiting for fixing that problem by Opera devteam!!

Yeah, I remember that workaround one from the old days--I think it's up the thread somewhere. Pretty sad after all this time.

The problem continues in 11.50 (due to ship any second now), and AFAIK was never commented upon even once by anyone from Opera throughout the beta process.

With all the icon issues over the years, I'm surprised that Opera still uses the "unique" system of storing thousands upon thousands of separate icon files. No other browse resorts to that method.

I wonder if this new issue is tied up in the same mess?