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1: Introduction to The Web Standards Curriculum/Table of Contents
Here's where the education begins! In this article, Chris Mills lifts the lid on Opera's Web Standards Curriculum, a free course (licensed under creative commons) that aims to teach proper web standards–based web design and development from scratch. Read more to find out what the thinking behind the course is, who can benefit from it, what the table of contents is for the course, and how you can give feedback and get involved.( Read the article )
Chris Mills
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Originally posted by Tamil:
Why both bullets & numbers in Table of contents?
Whoops! I've fixed that now.
Chris Mills
Developer Relations Manager
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*thumbsup*
Great course! Reading is like liquid, nice!
But, what when especially young readers (with not so perfekt english knowledge) want to read this. Is there a chance to find these articles in their native language?
And, when not, can we translate them?
Great course! Reading is like liquid, nice!
But, what when especially young readers (with not so perfekt english knowledge) want to read this. Is there a chance to find these articles in their native language?
And, when not, can we translate them?
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You forgot one important reason NOT to use web standards: "we have a x million dollar system and we would need to rebuild it from the ground up". And that's a pretty compelling reason that kept companies like E-bay (who needs SEO, we're number one, pal!) to not upgrade for years while everyone was getting in line. Or take Google's standpoint 'data is king, all the rest is secondary'. A lot of people are quite surprised that a lot of Google pages are still table-cluttered tag soup, full of dirty looking hacks.
We actually did this at CaribMedia, we rewrote the whole presentation layer of our CMS ContentXL from the ground up, and the back end as well.
update: I just checked and ebay still hasn't done their upgrade. Maybe it's a lost cause. Consider what would be involved if they have HTML stored in a database (I hope not for their sake).
We actually did this at CaribMedia, we rewrote the whole presentation layer of our CMS ContentXL from the ground up, and the back end as well.
update: I just checked and ebay still hasn't done their upgrade. Maybe it's a lost cause. Consider what would be involved if they have HTML stored in a database (I hope not for their sake).
Chris,
Thanks for galvanising this effort.
It is important for us to keep working for this goal.
I was introduced to HTML / CSS at TAFE and through stupidity in backup I lost most of my notes and 'assignment'.As I have read through the course sofar, this is the material I lost and wanted to revise as I have to express some clear ideas on our website to our Board.
Regards, A-David.
Thanks for galvanising this effort.
It is important for us to keep working for this goal.
I was introduced to HTML / CSS at TAFE and through stupidity in backup I lost most of my notes and 'assignment'.As I have read through the course sofar, this is the material I lost and wanted to revise as I have to express some clear ideas on our website to our Board.
Regards, A-David.
I have started to translate the articles into Hungarian, also under the same CC lincese. You can find them here: http://webszabvany.blog.hu/
Thank you for this nice curriculum. I think this will help a lot of developers to get a solid foundation.
I hope that the series will be completed soon. I am special interested in the articles on CSS.
I hope that the series will be completed soon. I am special interested in the articles on CSS.
Originally posted by A-David:
I was introduced to HTML / CSS at TAFE and through stupidity in backup I lost most of my notes and 'assignment'.As I have read through the course sofar, this is the material I lost and wanted to revise as I have to express some clear ideas on our website to our Board.Regards, A-David.
It is great to hear that the course is so useful to you, A-David!
Originally posted by karaj:
I have started to translate the articles into Hungarian, also under the same CC lincese. You can find them here: http://webszabvany.blog.hu/
Wow - this is fantastic. Thanks karaj! I will have to start putting together a translations resource so that people can see what's available, and we can avoid duplication of effort if multiple people want to work on the same languages.
Chris Mills
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Editor, dev.opera.com and labs.opera.com
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Chris,
This is a valuable programme, and it looks like I could use parts of it for in-house web authors at our educational charity.
How do you envisage updating the pages, and are you going to version control these documents? If I was compiling a training package, I'd like to have some fixed points for reference.
Thanks,
Alex
This is a valuable programme, and it looks like I could use parts of it for in-house web authors at our educational charity.
How do you envisage updating the pages, and are you going to version control these documents? If I was compiling a training package, I'd like to have some fixed points for reference.
Thanks,
Alex
I really like the concept of the course.
Although most of the material is a refresher for me, I like the clarity and brevity of the articles, which makes them valuable as reference material. I also am looking forward to the CSS portion.
Is there plans in place to keep the content fresh?
In other words, is there a plan to review the content at least yearly to make sure information is not out of date?
Thanks,
Brian
Although most of the material is a refresher for me, I like the clarity and brevity of the articles, which makes them valuable as reference material. I also am looking forward to the CSS portion.
Is there plans in place to keep the content fresh?
In other words, is there a plan to review the content at least yearly to make sure information is not out of date?
Thanks,
Brian
Great articles!
Despite I'm in the business for more than ten years now and my work is focused on project management, it is good source to update my knowledge on web standards. I'm looking forward to get the pronounced articles about css.
Thanks, Thomas
Despite I'm in the business for more than ten years now and my work is focused on project management, it is good source to update my knowledge on web standards. I'm looking forward to get the pronounced articles about css.
Thanks, Thomas
Originally posted by thomasschmidt:
Is there plans in place to keep the content fresh?In other words, is there a plan to review the content at least yearly to make sure information is not out of date?
Yes! There most certainly is.
Originally posted by thomasschmidt:
Great articles!
Thanks Thomas. The next batch of articles will be released before the end of this month - we're well on track for that.
Chris Mills
Developer Relations Manager
Editor, dev.opera.com and labs.opera.com
Developer Relations Manager
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Hi all,
I have started to translate the articles into Italian language, under the same CC lincese. The URL is:
http://www.jextrowebsite.com/index.php/categoria/web-standard/
Giuseppe
I have started to translate the articles into Italian language, under the same CC lincese. The URL is:
http://www.jextrowebsite.com/index.php/categoria/web-standard/
Giuseppe
Thanks to all the authors who are contributing to this project. I teach a high school webmastering course and am considering using this course as part of my curriculum. However, I have been reading it since the end of July and there have not been any new articles added. When will the next set of articles be available? Can you give me an idea of the basic topics of the remaining 28 or so articles that are not yet up on the web so I that I can put them into my semester lesson plans? Thanks.
Hello everyone, and thanks for the continued nice words about the curriculum. The 2nd part of the curriculum is all ready to go, and should be published at the end of this week, or early next week, depending on how quickly the proofreading gets finished.
The next part will cover accessibility and all of CSS.
The third part, which should appear before the end of the year, covers JavaScript basics. It is not intended to be a completely exhaustive JavaScript treatment - that would take up as much space as the rest of the curriculum put together. We will cover the basics, and then work on the rest of JavaScript, at a nice slow leisurely pace ;-)
The next part will cover accessibility and all of CSS.
The third part, which should appear before the end of the year, covers JavaScript basics. It is not intended to be a completely exhaustive JavaScript treatment - that would take up as much space as the rest of the curriculum put together. We will cover the basics, and then work on the rest of JavaScript, at a nice slow leisurely pace ;-)
Chris Mills
Developer Relations Manager
Editor, dev.opera.com and labs.opera.com
Developer Relations Manager
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Hi Chris (and others),
I am impressed and very happy this project has emerged. I think it will be a very valuable resource for people trying to either advocate or learn standards based web development. With others I would love to become involved in translating these courses. But I am also lazy and would hate to do unnecessary work :-) How can we help?
Another question would be how these course could be used (as part of) other courses. The license prohibits commercial use, but what (parts), if any, can be used in 'commercial' courses?
Thanks again and keep up the good work!
I am impressed and very happy this project has emerged. I think it will be a very valuable resource for people trying to either advocate or learn standards based web development. With others I would love to become involved in translating these courses. But I am also lazy and would hate to do unnecessary work :-) How can we help?
Another question would be how these course could be used (as part of) other courses. The license prohibits commercial use, but what (parts), if any, can be used in 'commercial' courses?
Thanks again and keep up the good work!
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David Hund
Web Developer at Eight Media (eight.nl)
Owner Valued Standards (valuedstandards.com)
David Hund
Web Developer at Eight Media (eight.nl)
Owner Valued Standards (valuedstandards.com)
Originally posted by davidhund:
But I am also lazy and would hate to do unnecessary work :-) How can we help?
E-mail me at cmills [at] opera [dot] com and we'll discuss it more. I am trying to coordinate translations, and I don't think there is a Dutch one in the works yet. I have been talking to some of the Fronteers guys about it.
Originally posted by davidhund:
Another question would be how these course could be used (as part of) other courses. The license prohibits commercial use, but what (parts), if any, can be used in 'commercial' courses?
Any parts can be used if I give permission for them to be used ;-)
Whether I give permission or not depends on how the course organizer wishes to use the course. The whole point is for the material to be available to all for free. Perhaps if you ran a course using the course as the teaching material that was run at a reduced rate because of the material being free? Again, I would be willing to discuss it.
Chris Mills
Developer Relations Manager
Editor, dev.opera.com and labs.opera.com
Developer Relations Manager
Editor, dev.opera.com and labs.opera.com
Originally posted by swallach:
Why is Text Styling with CSS denied access? Thank you, Sylvan Wallach
I have fixed it - you should be able to access it now. Apologies for this - it ended up back in its prepublished state. I really don't know how that happened ;-?
Chris Mills
Developer Relations Manager
Editor, dev.opera.com and labs.opera.com
Developer Relations Manager
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Hi Chris,
Thanks for a great resource. A question though, upon completion will the articles be made available for download as a single package or will it remain strictly on site?
Thanks for a great resource. A question though, upon completion will the articles be made available for download as a single package or will it remain strictly on site?
Originally posted by dimumurray:
Thanks for a great resource. A question though, upon completion will the articles be made available for download as a single package or will it remain strictly on site?
Yes - we are currently working on the best way to create accessible PDFs of the course material - upon completion, the course will be made available to download as individual PDFs, and as a single PDF.
Chris Mills
Developer Relations Manager
Editor, dev.opera.com and labs.opera.com
Developer Relations Manager
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Hi,
I started to make a translation to my Brazilian Portuguese language. The first article is here http://danillonunes.net/curriculo-dos-padroes-web/ (yes, i will fix the small style bugs later).
That's it.
Bye.
I started to make a translation to my Brazilian Portuguese language. The first article is here http://danillonunes.net/curriculo-dos-padroes-web/ (yes, i will fix the small style bugs later).
That's it.
Bye.
Here
http://www.intuit.ru/department/internet/operawebst/
full translation to Russian (under Creative Commons).
We add the tests for all lectures.
http://www.intuit.ru/department/internet/operawebst/
full translation to Russian (under Creative Commons).
We add the tests for all lectures.
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Originally posted by UriVasiliev:
Here
http://www.intuit.ru/department/internet/operawebst/
full translation to Russian (under Creative Commons).
We add the tests for all lectures.
OhMyGod - this is incredible - thannk you so much!
Get in touch - I'd love to talk to you about including English versions of some of your exercises/tests in the English version of the curriculum. In fact, I'll send you a message now ;-)
Chris Mills
Developer Relations Manager
Editor, dev.opera.com and labs.opera.com
Developer Relations Manager
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It would be something nice to give to other people as a pseudo-book to be read before starting a course...
Scratch that, I just read above. Is there something available in the meanwhile? Maybe fan-made even.
I've led many people here, to read up on what you & all the wonderful, bright authors have put forth here. This is such a wonderful resource to have when teaching those who are just starting out or need to step forward from old coding methods. What a great resource! Are there any plans for creating more content? Thank you!