Google Chrome Interface in Opera

Google Chrome Interface in Opera

I like the interface of google chrome very much, Is it possible for opera to do the same thing, I dont want any toolbar on the top and even the status bar appears when the user hovers to any link.

Originally posted by saudiqbal:

I dont want any toolbar on the top and even the status bar appears when the user hovers to any link.

Right click on the Toolbar, choose 'Customize', and turn on or off any toolbar you do or don't want. Seems pretty simple to me.

As for status, it's set up in the same place, and you can decide where to put that, too... Top, bottom, on/off, etc...

You can not turn off the toolbar of [File Edit View Bookmarks], I donno what it is called.

Originally posted by saudiqbal:

You can not turn off the toolbar of [File Edit View Bookmarks], I donno what it is called.

You can http://operawiki.info/CustomButtons#menu "Toggle Menu bar on/off"

Yes you can, it was a default keyboard shortcut in past versions but it has been removed. The functionality to add it back, however, is still there.

Go to preferences >> advanced >> shortcuts >> keyboard setup >> edit >> application and add the following:
Action: Enable menu bar | Disable menu bar.
I chose for it to work with Alt F10.

You can customize it the way you prefer it.

Edit: You can also add a button to do the same, as per Squirt's reply.

well, I'd like a way to rearrange the positions of the tab bar, personal bar, main bar, navigation bar, address bar, etc. For example I want to put personal bar under the tab bar, while the address bar above tab bar. Is there a way?

You can also show/hide menu on opera:config page -> search for "Show Menu"

Originally posted by wellofsouls:

well, I'd like a way to rearrange the positions of the tab bar, personal bar, main bar, navigation bar, address bar, etc. For example I want to put personal bar under the tab bar, while the address bar above tab bar. Is there a way?

Opera's toolbars are designed to be just "holders" within which you have almost total liberty to do as you please. In other words, you don't move the toolbars (well, you can move them to the top bottom, left or right, but they'll always keep a specific order) you change what's inside them. Watch the video here to get (just) an idea of what can be done.
The two exceptions are the menu bar (see discussion above) and the personal bar, which has a different purpose than the others (it is more or less an extension of the bookmark function).

Ummm... but what do you do without menus??

Originally posted by veggen:

Ummm... but what do you do without menus??

Go to the link that Squirt gave above.
You'll find a panopoly of button choices, including several that reduce the menu bar to a button that you add to another bar.
Looks like this:
MenuButton.jpg

Cleanest and most focused - on the Web page to display - interface with Opera: <F11>.

Originally posted by Evo2Me:

Cleanest and most focused - on the Web page to display - interface with Opera: <F11>.

:-)

Now this seems the most relevant Chrome thread to post this (we already have loads popping up)!

Apart from the obvious performance benefits, the UI is the most interesting for me. It does already look a lot like Opera, but the 2 other bits I like are the hidden title bar (when maximised) and the hidden status bar.

I've already disabled the status bar in my Opera (9.52, Linux), but recently I've really found the need to quickly see the URL of a link. My workaround is by waiting for the tooltip to appear, but I like the way Chrome does it:

When the mouse cursor is moved over a link, the address of the link is displayed at the bottom left of the screen.

- almost like a pop-up status bar. Is there a way of mimic'ing this in Opera?

I haven't tried, but I'm guessing there must be a way to remove the title bar using full-screen mode (not sure how that would affect the minimise/maximise/close buttons), but has anyone done something similar?

AFAIK, F11 is the only option to make the title bar disappear. (I'm not sure, but there might be customized buttons for max-/minimise/close.)
But, there's another problem with F11 and that's the Windows task bar which will disappear also and making it impossible to change to another program using the mouse (but Alt+Tab still works).

There are some fullscreen buttons in the wiki that are useful (I like Fullscreen + scrollbars, address bar and page bar (top))

I'm not in Windows, but as you say, the task bar is also hidden (hence fullscreen mode). It's not quite the same as Chrome, but I have a feeling that's the best we'll get (for now)

Originally posted by jabu2oz:

When the mouse cursor is moved over a link, the address of the link is displayed at the bottom left of the screen.

- almost like a pop-up status bar. Is there a way of mimic'ing this in Opera?

Right-click the toolbar you want it on (I use the Main bar) and select Customize. Click on the Buttons tab and then on Status. Drag the "Status Field" item to the toolbar. You can test it while you're still customising: just put the cursor over a link and you'll see the url pop up where you put the status field.

Originally posted by hdhondt:

Right-click the toolbar you want it on (I use the Main bar) and select Customize. Click on the Buttons tab and then on Status. Drag the "Status Field" item to the toolbar.

True, although I have already hidden the main bar. Status field cant be placed anywhere on the tab bar and it looks damn ugly if I put it on my address bar (eat's a lot of space).

My Opera looks like this atm:
http://xs231.xs.to/xs231/08364/chrome-ui794.png

Originally posted by jabu2oz:

It does already look a lot like Opera, but the 2 other bits I like are the hidden title bar (when maximised) and the hidden status bar.

You can hide the title bar using external programs and for the url popup you can use UserCSS: link-url-popup.css - save in your user css folder, restart opera then enable the stylesheet in view>styles menu and check My Style Sheet in View>Styles>Manage Modes.. - Author mode.

You can hide the title bar using external programs and for the url popup you can use UserCSS: link-url-popup.css - save in your
user css folder, restart opera then enable the stylesheet in view>styles menu and check My Style Sheet in View>Styles>Manage Modes.. - Author mode.

Thanks Man for this CSS!
Before I had a "show tooltips" checkbox on my View Bar. And when I wanted to see the address I had to enable this. Now, this CSS is just great and it looks beeeaaautiful!!!

@AyushJ: Thanks for the brilliant CSS!! Exactly what I was looking for to acheive this.

I've tweaked a new version to be more "traditional" tool-tip style, check it here if you like: link-url-popup.css. Looks like this: chrome-ui-tooltip-white.png

This is more like G-chrome > link-url-popup.css
pic > css.jpg

Originally posted by GoustiFruit:

You can also show/hide menu on opera:config page -> search for "Show Menu"

Yup...thanks! This is excellent! When used with the Toggle Menu (On/Off), it really increases the screenspace. In the attached pic you can see that I have more screenspace (following the suggestions given above) in Opera as compared to Chrome.Screenshot1.JPG

Thanks again!

How to hidden Opera Menu ?

Wrong, Google chrome has more space, just remove the bookmarks bar.

N.V.T, read the first page of this thread for the solution.

Originally posted by saudiqbal:

Wrong, Google chrome has more space, just remove the bookmarks bar.

While I dont want to argue this ad infinitum, but if I remove the bookmarks bar in Chrome, then my access to my bookmarks in Chrome is (1) either restricted to being online and/ or (2) increases the number of clicks becoz I will have to go through the "Customize and Control Chrome" button. This means more on-browser navigation. The way I set it up maintains an approximate parity between Opera and Chrome. After all, one does not compare 'apples and oranges'...though, on a lighter note, we often find comparisons between 'apples and microsoft'!

For who want try this:

d_t_a___opera_9_5__skin__slim-2.zip


The same but little modified

d_t_a___opera_9_5__skin__slim-2.zip


For end
Button full screen.
Add on Document toolbar.content in standart_toolbar.ini in toolbar in profile folder.

Button(x), "Full sreen"=Leave fullscreen, , , "Fullscreen", "Enter fullscreen" > Enter fullscreen & Set alignment, "document toolbar", 6 & Set alignment, "pagebar", 6 & Delay, 100 & Enable scroll bars

Replace (x) by number of button on the toolbar.

And button for closed opera when you are in full sreen.
Add on Document toolbar.content

Button(x)="Exit, 1, , -180901747, "Account operamail""

Button for hide menu bar

Button(x)="Enable menu bar, , , -1396871304, "News read" > Disable menu bar, , , -1396871304, "Attachment documents""

Originally posted by AyushJ:

You can hide the title bar using external programs

How do you
Can you explain in detail please

Originally posted by snf:

Can you explain in detail please

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/nircmd.html (search for "Remove the title bar")
http://my.opera.com/AyushJ/blog/winchanger (search for "Hide/Show window caption")

Originally posted by AyushJ:

Originally posted by snf:

Can you explain in detail please

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/nircmd.html (search for "Remove the title bar")
http://my.opera.com/AyushJ/blog/winchanger (search for "Hide/Show window caption")

Thank you very very mutch AyushJ.
Bye

Originally posted by snf:

d_t_a___opera_9_5__skin__slim-2.zip
The same but little modified
d_t_a___opera_9_5__skin__slim-2.zip

Those two files are identical...

Originally posted by HaJotKE:

Originally posted by snf:

d_t_a___opera_9_5__skin__slim-2.zip
The same but little modified
d_t_a___opera_9_5__skin__slim-2.zip

Those two files are identical...

Sorry the good

d_t_a___opera_9_5__skin__slim-2.zip

Originally posted by snf:

Originally posted by AyushJ:

Originally posted by snf:

Can you explain in detail please

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/nircmd.html (search for "Remove the title bar")
http://my.opera.com/AyushJ/blog/winchanger (search for "Hide/Show window caption")

Thank you very very mutch AyushJ.
Bye

AyushJ

winchanger=Thanks but don't work with my opera.
I'm stupid maybe.
Bur work when i tried
Your example : For example- if you downloaded the WinChanger.exe to your C:\ drive, then you can run it by going to Start-Run-Type:
c:\WinChanger.exe Window-Disable:#ClassShell_TrayWnd
^^ it will disable your Start-Menu button, to enable-Press WindowsKey+R:
c:\WinChanger.exe Window-Enable:#ClassShell_TrayWnd
ENTER!
I don't understand why is not working with Opera

And nircmd not at all.
I'm afraid to install it in folder windows.
Maybe it's for that he don't work.

Originally posted by snf:

winchanger=Thanks but don't work with my opera.

Try this from Start>Run:

c:\WinChanger.exe Window-Title:#CLASSOpWindow

Originally posted by YtseJam:

Go to preferences >> advanced >> shortcuts >> keyboard setup >> edit >> application and add the following:
Action: Enable menu bar | Disable menu bar.
I chose for it to work with Alt F10.

Hey, thanks! This is exactly what I wanted

Originally posted by AyushJ:

Originally posted by snf:

winchanger=Thanks but don't work with my opera.

Try this from Start>Run:

c:\WinChanger.exe Window-Title:#CLASSOpWindow

Fantastic.
It's working.
Thanks a lot.
But it's normal.
I need run winchanger every time i start Opera

Originally posted by snf:

I need run winchanger every time i start Opera

Yes. You can use a batch file to start opera which will first run opera then the winchanger command after some seconds(to give opera some time to display the window) ..

Originally posted by AyushJ:

Originally posted by snf:

I need run winchanger every time i start Opera

Yes. You can use a batch file to start opera which will first run opera then the winchanger command after some seconds(to give opera some time to display the window) ..

Ok.
Thank you very mutch for your reply.
But i don't know make a batch.
It is possible for you to make one and post it

P.S
I do this
Start OperaPortable
c:\WinChanger.exe Window-Title:#CLASSOpWindow
But i don't know the command wait 5 secondes

For wait i find Ping command.
It's working.
But if you have better solution .
I take.

Hi all

@AyushJ: Thanks a lot for the CSS. I've been looking for something like that for quite a while
@snf: making a batch file is pretty simple. Just create a plain text file, write the instructions inside, save it and change the file format from "txt" to "bat".
To make the batch wait for opera to start, you can use sleep.exe (http://unattended.msfn.org/files/global/sleep.zip)
this should work:

Start "" "%PROGRAMFILES%\Opera\opera.exe"
C:\Sleep.exe 5
C:\WinChanger.exe Window-Title:#CLASSOpWindow

Test.bat

And here are some questions:

link-url-popup.css shows the links relative to the current page, eg. "/community/forums/". Is it possible to make it always return full links? (http://my.opera.com/community/forums/)

Also, is there any way to make it show Tooltips? (Just like the Status bar does)

P.S: here's another version of the CSS:
link-url-popupV4.css
link-url-popupV4.png

Originally posted by Strathos:

@snf: making a batch file is pretty simple

Thank you.
It's very cool.

Strathos

Thanks again Strathos.
Working perfectly now.

It is possible to reduce the width of Tabs Bar
A little bit as the address bar.

If yes who
Plz.
Maybe in the skin but i don't find.




The width status bar for tabs bar.
It's be perfect for me.

Here's a comparison you-all might be interested in: Chrome does indeed give you more screen for page images, which it readily gives over to banner advertizing... Go figure.

Originally posted by Strathos:

link-url-popup.css shows the links relative to the current page, eg. "/community/forums/". Is it possible to make it always return full links? (http://my.opera.com/community/forums/)

Not with just UserCSS (possible with UserJS)

Originally posted by Strathos:

Also, is there any way to make it show Tooltips? (Just like the Status bar does)

I really like the idea of the link-url-popup.css, however it doesn't seem to work reliably enough to disable the status bar and regular url popup balloons just yet:
on pages like wikipedia.org it doesn't get shown 'on top' (z-index 9999 doesn't seem to be the final answer?). Same for pages with links like www.rtlnieuws.nl

Can anyone confirm that this hide menu trick works in Vista?

With Tamils advice I've tried creating keyboard shortcuts, added a menu button to the address bar and disabling the Show Menu in teh User Prefs in OperaConfig but ALL the time the menu stays there.

Perhaps this shortcut doesn't apply to Vista?

Can anyone confirm/deny this?

Hi,

I am using the Google Chrome like link-url-popup.css that eghbal posted in this forum and
I was wondering whether it is possible to add more of the blue background to the right
of the type?.

See my pic. link-url-popup.png

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

cheers
blinky

Originally posted by blinkybill:

I am using the Google Chrome like link-url-popup.css that eghbal posted in this forum and
I was wondering whether it is possible to add more of the blue background to the right
of the type?.

Change the padding: padding:3px 6px 3px 3px !important; (top right bottom left)

Hi AyushJ,

Thanks for your reply mate and help as always.
Just another query can the link popup be made to have
a fixed size no matter how much text is in the link you
hover over?

cheers
blinky

Originally posted by blinkybill:

Just another query can the link popup be made to
have a fixed size no matter what link you hover over?

Yes, use the width property e.g. width: 50%; or width: 300px;

Hi AyushJ,

Thanks again for your quick reply and info.

Much appreciated

cheers
blinky

Just a small FYI, NirCmd/WinChanger do not work on XP 64-bit, oh well too bad.