US '12 Presidential Update

US '12 Presidential Update

For the benefit of all of those of us in Europe, Asia, Antarctica and elsewhere, that is, for everybody who doesn't hang feverishly on every flash event in the upcoming Presidential election here, those who do will post here from time to time with tidbits that might just well affect your well-being in terms of incineration, etc.

I think I'm going to be sick.

Originally posted by Jaybro:

I think I'm going to be sick.

Me too.

And to remind us, now.

Jax is a sadist.

We have yet to be done with the 2008 election and you want to start going at 2012? What's the matter with you??? These campaigns last an eternity as it is.

Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

We have yet to be done with the 2008 election and you want to start going at 2012? What's the matter with you??? These campaigns last an eternity as it is.

Well, the champaigns take longer and longer - it's only logical that at some point they'll start before the previous election.

Macallan & Schwarzenegger in 2016. We're only a constitutional amendment away!

Change you can't imagine.

Originally posted by Jaybro:

Macallan & Schwarzenegger in 2016. We're only a constitutional amendment away!

Hmm, an anarcho-commie and a republican

Originally posted by Jaybro:

Change you can't imagine.

Label it 'german engineering' and people will buy it. Nobody here knows the difference between germany and austria anyway

Brain... hurting... make it... stop...

Originally posted by Macallan:

Nobody here knows the difference between germany and austria anyway

Just as a horrible sidenote: In the early 90s, polls showed that every sixth austrian felt that Austria should become a part of Germany... Kind of "Heim ins Reich."

Originally posted by jax:

US '12 Presidential Update

Please...... Give us a break......... at least a year break..........

Originally posted by Tolque53:

Originally posted by Macallan:

Nobody here knows the difference between germany and austria anyway

Just as a horrible sidenote: In the early 90s, polls showed that every sixth austrian felt that Austria should become a part of Germany... Kind of "Heim ins Reich."

Let's see when the austrian catholic church canonizes Haider as St. Joerg

Originally posted by Macallan:

Nobody here knows the difference between germany and austria anyway

Or Austria and Australia.

Paul & Palin in '12

Actually, I think that Libertarians need a babe for '12. Any suggestions? I think that Salma Hayek might just work.

That's an interesting optical illusion.
If you look carefully at that fire hydrant for long enough, you can imagine you see a human.
Edit for clarity:
you can imagine you see a human in the picture as well.

Originally posted by tt92:

That's an interesting optical illusion.
If you look carefully at that fire hydrant for long enough, you can imagine you see a human.

I know what you mean, but for me there's a shift from hydrant to witch's face. See the hat?

Originally posted by Jaybro:

Paul & Palin in '12

Actually, I think that Libertarians need a babe for '12. Any suggestions? I think that Salma Hayek might just work.

A candidate I can get really excited about!

Originally posted by Jaybro:

Paul & Palin in '12

Nah, I agree with your Paul and Salma Hayek pick.
I doubt Dr. Paul will run again though. Perhaps Chuck Baldwyn and Salma Hayek?

Thank you jax for starting this thread. I was already trying to imagine life without the 2008 thread, and I didn't think Jaybro would have had the gall or energy to start another one.

Why do we see reports about massive queues to "register", etc? We are registered long before elcetions and you cannot do it on the day itself. Enlightenment please as seems a rather stethced oddity.

Anything done repetitively eventually becomes boring.

You do have to register long before the election - the exact time varies by state, in my state it is 30 days and that is one of the shorter times. Though we also passed a law a couple of years ago allowing people to vote early, so there was about 5 days when you could actually register and vote at the same time.

You do have to sign in before you vote on election day, but you have to already be registered.

Congrats, America ... and the world ... and welcome home !

Originally posted by Investor:

Congrats, America ... and the world ... and welcome home !

Is the '08 thread really closed?

A reopening in 2104 might be called for.

Originally posted by jax:

A reopening in 2104 might be called for.

Who's running in 2104? I need to get a word in now because I don't think I'll be around then.

Will there be web browsers in 2104? Or an internet?

Originally posted by Jaybro:

Will there be web browsers in 2104? Or an internet?

No. People will have nanomachines in them right below their ear. Have a look at Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots for hints of what the future will be like...

Ye Gods (with a long, loud groand). It was bad enough having to put up with scores of pages of stuff from the ballyhoo circus that passes for an electoral process across the damn pond without this surfacing again in another guise. Well waffle awaay and repeat the boredom factor.

Well, some people on here have pointed out to me that by the time the next election rolls around, Ron Paul will be quite old.
That is true, but hey, he could run and get elected! Look at that old fart named Reagan!
Regardless of all that, (and maybe I'm counting far too many chickens before they hatch) I take pleasure in announcing that Rand Paul, Ron Paul's son, will be running for a Kentucky Senate seat. (Let's hope he can pull an Obama and run for President after only two years of being in the Senate)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-MXR20SOgw

Edit: "Disappointed soldiers in the Ron Paul Revolution, take heart. Your leader may have been defeated in '08, but He was not vanquished. For He hath given unto you a Son to continue His work. And He shall be called Rand Paul. And He shall run for U.S. Senate in Kentucky. And He shall have gloriously curly locks of salt-and-pepper hair that shall drip with the oil that shall fuel a libertarian uprising!"
http://www.indecisionforever.com/2009/05/15/rand-paul-ron-pauls-son-or-clone/ (It starts at 3:15, it's a bit old but good regardless)

I won't be happy until RuPaul is our president. Go DawgPhan, our resident Vietnamese scholar!

It was interesting to come back to this and note sgunhouse's answer to my curious puzzlement about massive queues. Here I get an annual letter from my Local Authroiry confirming my information to stay on the voters roll that you go on when 21. They give you a stamped addressed enevelope too. No long queue in streets, etc. You can even confirm over the Net!

Originally posted by rjhowie:

It was interesting to come back to this and note sgunhouse's answer to my curious puzzlement about massive queues.

Massive queues to register? I've never seen one. Long lines to vote, yes, but to register--not in my experience. When I moved to Grand Rapids, Michigan, recently, I was automatically registered to vote when I took out a driver's license. Ohio might be different.

There used to be significant problems registering in some Southern states, but I think those days are gone.

Don't they have enough points to vote at? We don't seem to get that even in high polling and both countries are not that super in high percentages.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Don't they have enough points to vote at? We don't seem to get that even in high polling and both countries are not that super in high percentages.

At the first Holyrood elections in 1999, 59% of Scots turned out to vote.

However, in some constituencies just four in 10 people used their vote.

The numbers who voted were equally low at the General Election two years ago - the lowest in any Westminster election since 1918, when women did not have the vote and many men had not returned from World War One.
Parts of Glasgow had particularly low turnout rates, with the Shettleston constituency the lowest at just 40.6%.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/2886587.stm

It entirely depends on what sort of election is being held, as almost certainly the case in Scotland.

The last national election here had a turnout of 61.7% of eligible voters, but for school board elections, the number might sink dramatically. Or it could be higher, depending on the issues involved. The variability among states in 2008 was considerable, ranging from over 78.5% in Minnesota, where most voters can read,to 50.6% in West Virginia, where most can't interpret the signs that say, "Vote Here."

Anybody who fails to vote "because the lines are too long" are liars in those areas where early voting is allowed, which is to say, the majority places in the U.S. Problems persist, though, as is the case in Scotland.

I predict that Obama will be the nominee of the Democratic party in 2012. I know I am sticking my neck out, but I like to live risky.

Was flciking back through this thread. I overlooked Macallan's reference to (Presidential) 'champaigns' ?? I s this a new way of doing Presidential thingies or a reference to the American town of that ilk? I always hang on such knowledge and would help......

Originally posted by Jaybro:

I won't be happy until RuPaul is our president. Go DawgPhan, our resident Vietnamese scholar!

Originally posted by ptgauthor:

I predict that Obama will be the nominee of the Democratic party in 2012.

Without question, yes.
I do look forward to seeing who will be the Republican Challenger.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by ptgauthor:

I predict that Obama will be the nominee of the Democratic party in 2012.

Without question, yes.
I do look forward to seeing who will be the Republican Challenger.

Probably another Bush

Originally posted by Macallan:

Probably another Bush

I doubt that.
They will undoubtedly need a centrist to even think about competing with Obama.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Macallan:

Probably another Bush

I doubt that.
They will undoubtedly need a centrist to even think about competing with Obama.

To out-Obama Obama? I think they'd rather whine & moan about 'socialism', Evil Liberals, terrorists etc. and send in another fire & brimstone fundie to get all the voters who drank the 'health' insurance mafia's cool aid.

The presidential election favours the incumbent, unless Obama makes serious mistakes a couple years from now, bad luck, or one of those crazy lone assassins succeeds (though that hasn't happened for four decades now), he would enter the favourite of the race. Then again, some Republicans could have a closer look at how Clinton won against Bush (Perot of course helped matters).

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

I doubt that.
They will undoubtedly need a centrist to even think about competing with Obama.

My money is on Mitt Romney. Conservative enough for centrists, fiscally so, at any rate.

I'm still hoping for Palin, however. She's on the "death squad" bandwagon again. Gotta love the ditz.

Sarah Palin: The Pelosi Bill Was Rammed Through on Saturday, But Sunday’s Coming
..........
We had been told there were no “death panels” in the bill either. But look closely at the provision mandating bureaucratic panels that will be calling the shots regarding who will receive government health care.
..........
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=169376258434

Please run her, my Republican friends. She's good for the party...the democrats, that is.

There are times when I wonder if sometime the Republican Party has lost the plot even just a wee bit?

My best guess is that Huckabee will be the Republican nominee. Chaney might try, and that would be interesting.

I am sure almost everyone in this forum would love to see Chaney be president.

My dream ticket? Palin and Cheney.

What will Obama have to do to lose in 2012? I'm not sure, but he'd be a shoo-in if he'd call for a public hanging of the folks who gave us our economic 9/11.

And the news is worse than we imagined!
As indicated here.

Originally posted by Jaybro:

My dream ticket? Palin and Cheney.

I reckon I know why.
That ticket would be a laughingstock.

Originally posted by Jaybro:

What will Obama have to do to lose in 2012?

Implement a carbon tax. Other than that, I see nothing that stands in his way for another term.

I think if Obama keeps doing what he is doing, he will lose. Everyone just hasn't seen all the consequences yet after just one year. They are coming.

Originally posted by ptgauthor:

My best guess is that Huckabee will be the Republican nomine

Yay Huck! Go Huck! Actually, I'd like to see the Huckster and the Palinator together in the whitehouse.

Originally posted by Jaybro:

My money is on Mitt Romney

Too many people will ask about his secret Mormon temple rituals, wearing holy underwear, becoming a god of some other earth.....stuff like that. Nah....I don't see this kind of person being president. But hey, they elected Obama. So I guess anything could happen.

Mitt Romney would be a long shot. With all his money, he failed early last time around. Huckabee lasted longer. Also, Romney may be perceived as being soft on abortion, and for that reason he would not get enough support from conservatives.

Originally posted by IDX2:

Actually, I'd like to see the Huckster and the Palinator together in the whitehouse.

That will never happen.
Neither one of them will see the white house.
The Republicans lone shot at getting the White House is if the Republicans nominate Ron Paul.
Otherwise, it's

(By the way, I find it interesting that my state's Governor is probably going to run for the Repub nomination. Have things really gotten that bad? )

Originally posted by Jaybro:

My dream ticket? Palin and Cheney.

The idea has a certain charm.
It wouldn't last, of course. One would eat the other.