No Opera for x86_64 GCC4/QT4?

No Opera for x86_64 GCC4/QT4?

I'm looking for a GCC4/QT4 build of Opera for x86_64, preferable in RPM packaging. (This is for Fedora 10.) I'm suprised to see that apparently QT4 isn't supported for x86_64:

ftp://get.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/962/final/en/x86_64/

Is this really the case, that there is no Opera for x86_64 QT4?

Thanks.

That link doesn't answer the question at all.

So no, there are no Qt4 x86_64 builds yet, sadly

There is a 386 bundled qt4 that will run fine under 64bit Linux's except there'd be plugin issues with things like mplayer or vlc plugins

The fact that there's any qt4 build hopefully means there will be a x64 shared eventually

Here's another request for QT4 x86_64 builds. Is there any word on what's prevented one from being released?

Here's another request for QT4 x86_64 builds.
I'm using opensuse 11.1 x86_64 with KDE4 and actual opera qt3 builds look awful, especially the "save file" dialogs, which remembers me the old win 3.1
And please don't tell me "there's the i386 qt4 build" because it's a pain with plugins and desktop integration!

I hope the next opera 10 will include more x86_64 builds, as today's computers are usually configured with 4gb+ ram (eheh.. thanks vista )

Bye
Matteo

+1ish but then the qt builds should stop to suck so much too (ie like no more scroll artifacts)

Yea.


Until Opera starts doing 64bit Qt4 builds-I'm going to go elsewhere for a browser. People have begged and pleaded for a very long time for it-and nada, no justification for it, not even so much as an acknowledgement from the Opera devs on the topic.

So here I am using Konqueror again, I only miss Speed Dial. I shouldn't need to load two different Qt libraries on boot simply to browse the internet. I hate these "leaving" messages-but a memo needs to be gotten acknowledged to the devs.

~signed disgruntled Linux ex-Opera user.

Strangely, Opera seems to like computers with nVidia graphics cards under Linux ...

squnhouse - umm...yeah...

Anyway,

Can I stick another request in for Qt4 x86_64 I have at least 3 machines personally that need it. Let alone the ones in the office i'd like to get using it.

Pretty please

Really - one more compilation can't be that hard can it.

Right now I'm using konqueror beacause of this:/
I guess there is a reason why opera/x86_64 isn't shipped with qt4/shared, but devs could say if there is any progress...

Qt3 will not be supported anymore officially in the upcoming Mandriva 2009 spring;

when opera do decide to make a qt4 version, make a qt4.5 version not the bugged qt4.4

Perhaps it's a fair hypothesis that they're indeed not bothering with fixing a Qt 4.4 version and waiting for 4.5? Still, a break in the wall of silence from Norway on this oft-repeated query would be nice.

The bit provides the most irritation is that almost ironically, the i386 version would run fine - except as you cannot then have an i386 app dynamically linking to an x86_64 library (I almost said dll... shit, lol) it largely defeats the purpose.

Originally posted by arghwashier:

Qt3 will not be supported anymore officially in the upcoming Mandriva 2009 spring;

when opera do decide to make a qt4 version, make a qt4.5 version not the bugged qt4.4

My money is on Mandriva users being SOL.

I don't think it will be only mdv but also ubuntu and opensuse. Anyway how can opera claim to be the most secure browser when it depends on libraries which have lost their official support!?

Bug fixed qt3 will be available for some time as many enterprise distributions are still shipping it now and will patch it themselves if upstream refuses to release security fixes.

That being said - a qt4 build would be welcome. Assuming it works as well as qt3 build.

QT3 is still supported just not by mandriva. That is a very different thing.

However it seems wierd that there are perfectly well working QT4 builds out there...why not use one of those.

the whole point of this thread is that there are NO qt4 builds available, not for 64bits users at least.

I'm sure Opera is working on QT4 64bit builds.
Until they release them though, static qt3 builds will work perfectly fine.

Sorry my point was that they already have working QT4 builds. Surely the code can't be that much different?

Opera is notorious for running old Qt libraries. A Trolltech technician wrote to me on March 24th:

I think the latest version of Opera uses Qt 3, which isn't even supported by us anymore, so no. Best option would be to compile and link a Qt based application yourself.

After I reported an issue with Opera/Qt/Linux.

I'm also very interested in trying such a build as I'm finilizing migration from kde3 to kde4

I am just migrating from 32 bit system to 64 bit Linux, Opera x86_64 with QT4 is necessary, and not just for me. KDE4.x is the default KDE in all major distributions. QT4.5 is out and it's the default build platform for newer KDE4.x, 64 bit Linux is major and it's becoming mainstream ... an Opera x86_64 / QT4(.5) is a _must_have_ in our days.

Developers, please recompile it with QT4 ... if the i386/QT4 build is possible, and it is, and it is working great, a 64 bit version should also be possible.

Thanks.

OK,

I'm gonna go out on a limb here. Is Operas interface being re-built in QT for the 10 official release. Given that QT3 will be long out of date before the release of 10 it seems silly to still be using it.

Is this why:
a) 10 alpha has the same interface as 9.
b) We are not seeing too much work going into updating the interface of the current builds from qt3 - qt4.

Maybe I'm about to start a wild and dangerous rumor here but it seems pretty likely to me.

Not yet. No changes to the GUI in Windows or in 32-bit Linux yet, but they don't usually make changes until the last thing. Too early to say.

Thats basically what I was thinking. Knowing that GUI changes often don't come into play until the engine/s have been tested. It seems a logical time to be making the transfer at any rate.

I'd like to throw in my vote for a x86_64 qt4 build too. This is bullcrap having to use the 32bit version to get qt4... Honestly, how can it really cause problems if you can compile it w/ x86 and qt4/qt3 and you can still at least compile qt3 on x86_64.

+1 for qt4 on amd64!

Still no change / no reply from the devs

*Happy*

Take a look here: http://mirror.liteserver.nl/pub/opera/linux/964/final/en/i386/

Originally posted by JaJohNee:

Take a look here: http://mirror.liteserver.nl/pub/opera/linux/964/final/en/i386/

And THAT ladies and gents, is how you admit that you did not even bother to read the thread topic.

Originally posted by ruario:

Hi everyone ... yes we do read these threads. We know you want x86_64 qt4. It might even be closer than you think.

I'll gladly eat my words

Status update? I don't see qt4 for the latest opera snapshot in even the intel-linux branch... it'd appear you're moving backwards! I sure thought those builds should've came sooner given the "closer than you think" statement :/

I don't believe I'm violating the rules by saying we have seen some internal builds for testing, but (as you can guess) it wasn't ready yet. I can't say anything more about them, as I run 32-bit Linux here and thus haven't tried them.

I thought about replying further, but I guess I should leave that to the developers when they see fit to do so. Suffice it to say, they are working on it.

Originally posted by sgunhouse:

Strangely, Opera seems to like computers with nVidia graphics cards under Linux ...

Yeah i can second that , i used to run Opera on suse 10.1 without a Nvidia kernel
When swapping to Suse 11.1 i thought of installing the Nividia Kernel on my Acer Aspire which has a FX go 5700 gpu and i can say that it is smoother.

I never thought it would make a "big" difference but it did.

still no qt4 for amd64

"We are quickly approaching the final release of Opera 10.0"
and still no build opera qt4 for x64

Originally posted by ruario:

As Steve pointed out, we do have internal builds of opera qt4 for x86_64 but they have a few issues. They will come ... we won't leave you stuck on Qt3 forever, even if it may feel like it sometimes.

A version to play with should be just around the corner .... whatever that means!

I can't wait till you fix the issues. (in the past I would have said to bring it on but I guess there must be good reason not to bring it on yet )
Anyway what I don't understand is why opera seem to use the old and very buggy qt4.4.0 instead of qt4.5.1 or kde's qt-copy-branch.


(nor do I understand the use of the ancient gcc4.1.1 instead of 4.4.0 or 4.3.3)

ANyway it's nice to be kept up to date once in a while

IT'S HERE!!!!!!!

http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/snapshot-4453/x86_64-linux/