President Barack Obama

President Barack Obama

This thread is dedicated soley to discussing the new President. This includes his inauguration, policies, etc. If it involves President Obama, discuss it here.

<nitpick>We had Clinton & Bush for the past 20 years</nitpick>

Anyway, I had to pick the beer option - I don't tend to get excited prematurely, let's see if he does anything that deserves excitement. The Bush & Clinton option is just plain silly and I can't say I don't care either.

Originally posted by Macallan:

<nitpick>We had Clinton & Bush for the past 20 years</nitpick>

You'll have to pardon me. Clinton and Bush II have been the President's that most stand out to me. (Please vote again. I edited the poll)

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Macallan:

<nitpick>We had Clinton & Bush for the past 20 years</nitpick>

You'll have to pardon me. Clinton and Bush II have been the President's that most stand out to me. (Please vote again. I edited the poll)

Lumping Clinton and the Bushs together is still silly as far as I'm concerned

Originally posted by Macallan:

Lumping Clinton and the Bushs together is still silly as far as I'm concerned

How? It was Clinton's economic policies that got us into this economic mess we're in today (house anybody no matter what they make) and Bush's Empirical wars that hurried this mess along. It was going to happen regardless, Bush's wars just sped up the process.


Note: Senators Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd have collapsed at the Inaugural lunch

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

This thread is dedicated soley to discussing the new President. This includes his inauguration, policies, etc. If it involves President Obama, discuss it here.

Whatever happened to that likely lad Bill Clinton?

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Whatever happened to that likely lad Bill Clinton?

I think these days he's trying to raise money for world peace. That, and I've heard he's lost a good bit of weight. (He must have laid of the and )

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Whatever happened to that likely lad Bill Clinton?

I think these days he's trying to raise money for world peace. That, and I've heard he's lost a good bit of weight. (He must have laid of the and )

I actually liked Clinton. I hear he liked Bank's Bitter, amongst other things.

Obama looked so elegant next to Bush.

And everybody liked Clinton? <_<

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Whatever happened to that likely lad Bill Clinton?

I think these days he's trying to raise money for world peace. That, and I've heard he's lost a good bit of weight. (He must have laid of the and )

I actually liked Clinton. I hear he liked Bank's Bitter, amongst other things.

I'd believe that.
When Clinton came to Berlin he went to a pub, drank and gave autographs. When Bush II. came they locked down half the city for a week or so.

Originally posted by Macallan:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Whatever happened to that likely lad Bill Clinton?

I think these days he's trying to raise money for world peace. That, and I've heard he's lost a good bit of weight. (He must have laid of the and )

I actually liked Clinton. I hear he liked Bank's Bitter, amongst other things.

I'd believe that.
When Clinton came to Berlin he went to a pub, drank and gave autographs. When Bush II. came they locked down half the city for a week or so.

I think that was because Bush went to the toilet & probably got lost, & was found hours later wandering around Berlin wondering why nobody can speakify Americanese...

Obama is pure class, and handsome as well. I loved it when the crowd chanted the "na-na-na song" which was started many years ago by Chicago White Sox fans, of which Obama is a big fan.

politicians are nothing more than talking suits. until proven otherwise.
Beer don't lie

Originally posted by operainchicago:

Obama is pure class, and handsome as well. I loved it when the crowd chanted the "na-na-na song" which was started many years ago by Chicago White Sox fans, of which Obama is a big fan.

What are the Chicago White Sox?

Originally posted by MAXXTHRUST:

politicians are nothing more than talking suits. until proven otherwise.
Beer don't lie

I second that (burp)

Originally posted by Daveski17:

What are the Chicago White Sox?

One of Chicago's MLB (Major League Baseball) teams. The other being the cursed Chicago Cubs.
The White Sox have generally been a much better team. (especially as of late)

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

What are the Chicago White Sox?

One of Chicago's MLB (Major League Baseball) teams. The other being the cursed Chicago Cubs.
The White Sox have generally been a much better team. (especially as of late)

Oh OK...I know what baseball is, I have seen it on channel 5. We call it 'rounders' in England & it is traditionally a game played at school by girls, the boys would play cricket. That's probably why the English can't take it seriously.

Originally posted by Daveski17:

We call it 'rounders' in England

How the heck did it come to being called "rounders"? (I know the shape of the ball but still? )

Originally posted by Daveski17:

That's probably why the English can't take it seriously.

Just like ya'll can't take Football (American) seriously because of rugby perhaps?
BTW, one "change" from the last Pres. is that Obama actually plays a sport, basketball. I have to salute him at least for that.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Note: Senators Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd have collapsed at the Inaugural lunch

I’ve become pretty cynical with politicians and their tricks and I may be pilloried for this, but here goes -

Chappaquiddick Ted is one of the best actors in the world. Today he collapsed, was rushed to the hospital where they found no reason for the collapse, therefore assuming it was fatigue.

His collapse will generate much needed sympathy for Ted, the stalwart lion of the senate, and for the Kennedy family.

Gov Paterson has been pushed hard by certain elites to appoint Caroline Schlossberg (she now publicly changed her name back to Kennedy) as NY senate replacement for Clinton. Ted’s collapse will increase the pressure on Paterson to support one the leading Democratic party families. The families desire is to keep a member in a high level political office, a replacement for Ted.

My sources tell me that Paterson decided a few days ago that Kennedy may not be the best choice because she lacks upstate political and popular support. Also, her downstate popular support is weak due to her being known as a rich Park Avenue society dame. Paterson feels she will not be re-elected in 2010 since he will also be running he can’t afford her as a millstone around his neck. In her favor are a lot of financial interests and the strong public support of NYC Mayor Bloomberg and of Harry Reid, the senate majority leader.

I wouldn't be suprised if this tips it back in her favor.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

We call it 'rounders' in England

How the heck did it come to being called "rounders"? (I know the shape of the ball but still? )

Ermmmm because you run around the bases I reckon. Well, if you are a girl or a bit ginger beer.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

That's probably why the English can't take it seriously.

Just like ya'll can't take Football (American) seriously because of rugby perhaps?

No, I think it is the helmets...

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

BTW, one "change" from the last Pres. is that Obama actually plays a sport, basketball. I have to salute him at least for that.

Yeah, that's a girls game to us as well. It's called netball.

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Yeah, that's a girls game to us as well. It's called netball.

If anything, the other Football should be a "girl's" game. There's not near the contact in it that there is in American Football.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5tt_D4PFYk&feature=related
Although football does have it's moments(though not near the intensity):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mPIKsA1XD4&feature=related

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Yeah, that's a girls game to us as well. It's called netball.

If anything, the other Football should be a "girl's" game. There's not near the contact in it that there is in American Football.

Oh yeah, I would like to see them play without all the body armour & helmets

Originally posted by Daveski17:

the body armour

Don't you mean "Under Armour"?
http://www.underarmour.com/shop?cid=aff01&cid=aff01

Ahem guys! Topic is B.O. not sports

I dunno. I hope he does a good job but I don't really hold out much hope since he voted 94 times for tax raises, so the McCain campaign had said. I find it funny everyone at my work listens to me and looked at me terrified when I said that and during voting season they were chanting "Go Obama!" .

All that aside, I do really like Michelle Obama, she's awesome and hopefully she can whack him in the back of the head before he makes stupid decisions. I voted for the other guy and by that I mean Bob Barr!

Here's to hopin'

Originally posted by operainchicago:

Ahem guys! Topic is B.O. not sports

Yes, i know. I created it after all!
I was pointing out to Dave that Obama plays basketball. Then as we males tend to do, we got sidetracked. Thanks for putting us back on the right track!

Originally posted by operainchicago:

Ahem guys! Topic is B.O. not sports

B.O.? Body Odour?

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by operainchicago:

Ahem guys! Topic is B.O. not sports

Yes, i know. I created it after all!
I was pointing out to Dave that Obama plays basketball. Then as we males tend to do, we got sidetracked. Thanks for putting us back on the right track!

I thought we were talking about beer....I must have beer on the brain

Basically I am sick to death of the man. The Americanisation of Gt Britain continues with saturation on tv. I can understand it being of some concern to Americans the state the place is in. What was it reported here on a news item? 27 million in the poverty group, 47 million without proper insurance. A great advert for the richest country in the world as he put it in his inaugral address (!).

The decline in America started before the Bush era although he has hastened it to the point where the USA is at it's most disliked and tainted with suspicion across the globe. As for his words what we get are endless monologues which I find extremely boring, repetitive and vague. The children however hang on every utterance as if Divine. Come on now some 59 million didn't even vote for him. A survey reported that almost 92% of blacks went for him a big chunk of the Hispanic while over half of whites voted against him. The constant rhetoric is getting trying with the same obscure stuff. Mind you I do hope it works out for him and the USA as things are not that rosy at all are they? I don't mind blacks being chuffed at having one of their own or part of their own but the crap about progress is a myth. It has taken the self styled bastion of democracy, liberty, etc (yawn) nearly two and a quarter centuries to break the ceiling and in lifetimes black were beaten, killed and disenfranchised.

America may well need a new direction and so many are like kids in a sweet factory with their over fawning idolising of someone who has never ran anything in his life! For the rest of the world it is important to see what happens in the USA and I hope he manages to pull the sinking ship up and go somewhere and the proof of the pudding will not be in his repetive and yawning waffle but practically. America certainly must have a change in direction and who knows maybe he will be the man to do it but save me from all those legions of tribal emotionals who will be telling us he can walk on water.

He is incredible good orator and very handsome We will se how he is in practice and with fulfilling his promises.

Originally posted by operainchicago:

Obama is pure class, and handsome as well. I loved it when the crowd chanted the "na-na-na song" which was started many years ago by Chicago White Sox fans, of which Obama is a big fan.

Obama is president of every people, not ony for white Christians.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

America certainly must have a change in direction and who knows maybe he will be the man to do it but save me from all those legions of tribal emotionals who will be telling us he can walk on water.

Bravo rjhowie, the truth hurts, I am also sickened by the hysterical Americano. I was intending to post a new post; Is Obama a god ? But have decided you have said it all so now I thank you.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

We call it 'rounders' in England

How the heck did it come to being called "rounders"? (I know the shape of the ball but still? )

Originally posted by Daveski17:

That's probably why the English can't take it seriously.

Just like ya'll can't take Football (American) seriously because of rugby perhaps?
BTW, one "change" from the last Pres. is that Obama actually plays a sport, basketball. I have to salute him at least for that.

yes hehehe found that funny ,its true we call it rounders HEHEHEHEH!!!just with out the knee pads and shin digs .oh so funny to read your to posts .

Football ie the game where the foot controls the ball is the most skilled of all others. All others are based on violent physical attempts to injure an opponent using cowardice if necessary. If rugby were to be banned I believe there would be a reduction in youth violence due to its cowardly conduct being recognised as not heroic, being falsely promoted as warrior-like, war has no place in sport.

Politics is not sport, Obama is not a god, those who have confused these two topics are IMHO mentally deranged.

Originally posted by doddles:

Football ie the game where the foot controls the ball is the most skilled of all others. All others are based on violent physical attempts to injure an opponent using cowardice if necessary. If rugby were to be banned I believe there would be a reduction in youth violence due to its cowardly conduct being recognised as not heroic, being falsely promoted as warrior-like, war has no place in sport.

Politics is not sport, Obama is not a god, those who have confused these two topics are IMHO mentally deranged.

Football can be agressive they shove kick and push .
Politics is like sports you move to achieve your GOAL

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Oh yeah, I would like to see them play without all the body armour & helmets

I know what you mean.
This is much more manly.
But getting back to basics, though, Obama was intelligently designed. We can all agree on that.

Originally posted by Jaybro:

But getting back to basics, though, Obama was intelligently designed. We can all agree on that.

Absolutely.
The only question, by whom?
Mr Soros being for sure one of the designers.

Originally posted by Jaybro:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Oh yeah, I would like to see them play without all the body armour & helmets

I know what you mean.
This is much more manly.
But getting back to basics, though, Obama was intelligently designed. We can all agree on that.

I always thought cricket was a boring game, but it is a lot more skillful than rounders. The funny thing is that rounders was actually invented in England, yet cricket wasn't.

Still...we may be just stupid tea drinking I look like John Steed lets stereotype those limey pillocks & their tea drinking crappy little airstrip of a country lets just stick it to them the limey craphead- Mary Poppins stupid bowler hat wearing idiot inbred ungrateful smegheads-with their stupid accents & history & they all walk funny & have ingrown toenails & are just a waste of space lets face it with their stupid little country which is just an aircraft carrier for the USA & they drink tea & eat muffins & Marmite & they are just all bowler hat wearing tossers or maybe one day they will have a Prime Minister who will have the bollocks to give the USA the Harvey Smith & throw the shoes of freedom after all the Normans didn't destroy us neither could the Spanish Armada, Napoleon or the Luftwaffe & the funny thing is our language & the basis of our legal system since Alfred the Great is still the basis for much of the legal systems of the known world but what the hell we are just tea-drinking fish & chips with mushy peas eating stupid limeys........

... but we invented a lot of the modern world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:English_inventions

And the Americans wonder why they are so hated by the rest of the world.....

Originally posted by rjhowie:

For the rest of the world it is important to see what happens in the USA and I hope he manages to pull the sinking ship up and go somewhere and the proof of the pudding will not be in his repetive and yawning waffle but practically.

I think you have hit the nail on the head there...

Originally posted by Daveski17:

... but we invented a lot of the modern world.

Pfff...

Originally posted by johnnysaucepn:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

... but we invented a lot of the modern world.

Pfff...

OK, sorry I forgot Scotland....where would we be without television?

Oh yeah &...(I am really trying hard to include N Ireland)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_inventions_and_discoveries

http://digg.com/design/11_Inventions_you_didn_t_realise_the_British_created?t=9918899

We need change, but we don't need any friggin' Obama cult. This is from a column by Juan Williams (a black liberal whose opinions I like to read):

Yet there is fear, especially among black people, that criticism of him or any of his failures might be twisted into evidence that people of color cannot effectively lead. That amounts to wasting time and energy reacting to hateful stereotypes. It also leads to treating all criticism of Mr. Obama, whether legitimate, wrong-headed or even mean-spirited, as racist.

This is patronizing. Worse, it carries an implicit presumption of inferiority. Every American president must be held to the highest standard. No president of any color should be given a free pass for screw-ups, lies or failure to keep a promise.

During the Democrats' primaries and caucuses, candidate Obama often got affectionate if not fawning treatment from the American media. Editors, news anchors, columnists and commentators, both white and black but especially those on the political left, too often acted as if they were in a hurry to claim their role in history as supporters of the first black president.

For example, Mr. Obama was forced to give a speech on race as a result of revelations that he'd long attended a church led by a demagogue. It was an ordinary speech. At best it was successful at minimizing a political problem. Yet some in the media equated it to the Gettysburg Address.

The importance of a proud, adversarial press speaking truth about a powerful politician and offering impartial accounts of his actions was frequently and embarrassingly lost. When Mr. Obama's opponents, such as the Clintons, challenged his lack of experience, or pointed out that he was not in the U.S. Senate when he expressed early opposition to the war in Iraq, they were depicted as petty.

Bill Clinton got hit hard when he called Mr. Obama's claims to be a long-standing opponent of the Iraq war "the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen." The former president accurately said that there was no difference in actual Senate votes on the war between his wife and Mr. Obama. But his comments were not treated by the press as legitimate, hard-ball political fighting. They were cast as possibly racist.

This led to Saturday Night Live's mocking skit -- where the debate moderator was busy hammering the other Democratic nominees with tough questions while inquiring if Mr. Obama was comfortable and needed more water.

When fellow Democrats contending for the nomination rightly pointed to Mr. Obama's thin proposals for dealing with terrorism and extricating the U.S. from Iraq, they were drowned out by loud if often vacuous shouts for change. Yet in the general election campaign and during the transition period, Mr. Obama steadily moved to his former opponents' positions. In fact, he approached Bush-Cheney stands on immunity for telecommunications companies that cooperate in warrantless surveillance.

There is a dangerous trap being set here. The same media people invested in boosting a black man to the White House as a matter of history have set very high expectations for him. When he disappoints, as presidents and other human beings inevitably do, the backlash may be extreme.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123249791178500439.html

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Basically I am sick to death of the man. The Americanisation of Gt Britain continues with saturation on tv. I can understand it being of some concern to Americans the state the place is in. What was it reported here on a news item? 27 million in the poverty group, 47 million without proper insurance. A great advert for the richest country in the world as he put it in his inaugral address (!).

The decline in America started before the Bush era although he has hastened it to the point where the USA is at it's most disliked and tainted with suspicion across the globe. As for his words what we get are endless monologues which I find extremely boring, repetitive and vague. The children however hang on every utterance as if Divine. Come on now some 59 million didn't even vote for him. A survey reported that almost 92% of blacks went for him a big chunk of the Hispanic while over half of whites voted against him. The constant rhetoric is getting trying with the same obscure stuff. Mind you I do hope it works out for him and the USA as things are not that rosy at all are they? I don't mind blacks being chuffed at having one of their own or part of their own but the crap about progress is a myth. It has taken the self styled bastion of democracy, liberty, etc (yawn) nearly two and a quarter centuries to break the ceiling and in lifetimes black were beaten, killed and disenfranchised.

America may well need a new direction and so many are like kids in a sweet factory with their over fawning idolising of someone who has never ran anything in his life! For the rest of the world it is important to see what happens in the USA and I hope he manages to pull the sinking ship up and go somewhere and the proof of the pudding will not be in his repetive and yawning waffle but practically. America certainly must have a change in direction and who knows maybe he will be the man to do it but save me from all those legions of tribal emotionals who will be telling us he can walk on water.

Oh hes gorgeous ,i was speaking with people about it and though we have brown as our prime minister (cough cough ) we feel Obama is the leader of the world he feels more like a preacher than a president ,i like it and for people like me being of mixed blood and muslim too (even thought he says and the papers says hes not a muslim )i respect that !! hes da man .Its history for us it really is ,maybe you cannot understand that i dont know ,but just feel for how it feels for us to see him there we feel proud we done it in the end and in my life time .

Originally posted by rjhowie:

The Americanisation of Gt Britain continues with saturation on tv.

I told you a long time ago Mr. Howie: England, Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland are due to become our 51st, 52nd, 53rd and 54th states respectivally. It's only a matter of time....

Originally posted by doddles:

Is Obama a god ?

No. Cnn and all the other Liberal news just make him out to be. It does get old after a while.

Originally posted by fanfaron:

We need change, but we don't need any friggin' Obama cult.

Originally posted by Cocoa_butter:

we feel Obama is the leader of the world

Bambi is NOT the leader of the world. The media may make him out to be, but he ain't.

Originally posted by Cocoa_butter:

we feel Obama is the leader of the world he feels more like a preacher than a president...

On what basis? Some speeches? He still hasn't done anything yet, and his speeches sound pretty much the same. That "leader of the world" stuff may stop after he makes a few unpopular decisions.

I mean, I wish him all the best, but let's get real.

Originally posted by fanfaron:

but let's get real.

Agreed.
Maybe the media has been on a drinking binge here latley(hence annointing Bambi, god), but now it's time for the "change" to turn into reality.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by rjhowie:

The Americanisation of Gt Britain continues with saturation on tv.

I told you a long time ago Mr. Howie: England, Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland are due to become our 51st, 52nd, 53rd and 54th states respectivally. It's only a matter of time....

Originally posted by doddles:

Is Obama a god ?

No. Cnn and all the other Liberal news just make him out to be. It does get old after a while.

Originally posted by fanfaron:

We need change, but we don't need any friggin' Obama cult.

Originally posted by Cocoa_butter:

we feel Obama is the leader of the world

Bambi is NOT the leader of the world. The media may make him out to be, but he ain't.

Oh yeah i say why not one leader one nation no religion no wars no porn ,no paedophilic and no weapons of mass destruction (and that includes the invisible ones that America says is there but is not )Obama you Rock my Boat ,OBAMA OBAMA .
Instead LOVE AND COMPASSION AND HAPPINESS now is that too much to ask for .By the way Keep OPERA .

Regarding adding Scotland. Not just tv but roads, mediccal breakthroughs, telephone, etc.

Sadly thedawgfan is nearer the truth than he realisesm musing deep south of the Mason-Dixon. We are constantly being changed by the guff that is American tv imports. and word changes. Television is full of US mind-numbing midden. When on my first ex-Colonies visit in 1980 after watching tv in my hotel room I felt immensly thankful our tv back home still had some quality about it. How things have changed for the worse. All that US dross is cheap to import and cheap by nature. If that is a country's culture no wonder it is in decline - and dragging us down with it. The effecthere is gradual and consistent. Nightspot becomes Nitespot - police etc is becoming law enforecment - we are getting homeland security popping up. Add to this that utter rubbis that is rap and has infected much of our black youths who sadly are involved in so much anti-social stuff these days.

Obama is someone the afflicted across the pond will hang onto for dear life. What really got through to me was one BBC reporter in DC gushing on about Obama as if he was damn well ours (thank goodness he isn't). The utter sycophantic garbage (damn - rubbish) he wittered about. At one point he commneted on Obama appointing Clinton to his team and would she have done thast. Talk about gooey, dripping treacle? The world financial debacle was created by the US so it is up to this wonderman to do something about it. I just hope too many Americans don't get disappointed when he doesn't run into telephone boxes to change into a lbue cape and underpants. I will meantime search for Kryptonite.

As a black woman, it's nice to see someone "of color" as President. But we need to get past that now. It's not about that, well it shouldn't be, anymore. It's about changing the world as we know it. Taking what we've learned from past individuals in office and putting it to good use to help America. We are in dire need and that should be our main concern, and as the media tells us, it seems to be President Obama's. And for those speaking of his repetitive speeches. Yes, they can seem repetitive but they are necessary, Americans need constant reassurance because of our doubt, whether we doubt him or ourselves or whatever it is, we need someone who can reassure us. Besides, don't all presidential candidates do that? It's propaganda. I am barely in my 20's so I don't expect change soon, but what I do expect is progress. I feel Obama is fully capable of that regardless of what he hasn't done(politically). He has the heart and motivation. Anything can be done with those types of traits.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Regarding adding Scotland. Not just tv but roads, mediccal breakthroughs, telephone, etc.

Elisha Gray and Alexander Bell are trying to claim the phone from the British 'rj' don't let them....My money is on the Jocks (sorry Scottish people).

Originally posted by rjhowie:

I just hope too many Americans don't get disappointed when he doesn't run into telephone boxes to change into a lbue cape and underpants. I will meantime search for Kryptonite.

Oh no...you've revealed who he really is now! (My money was on Batman).