Al Qaida is US puppet

Al Qaida is US puppet

Al Qaida (or most other terrrorist group) exists where US intelligence dominates. Al Qaida in US when Bush needs excuse to activate Mid-east war. That is 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq now to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there was no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. But they appears to attack ordinary people when the government either is controlled by US intelligence or supported by US intelligence. That's why you see Al Qaida attacks in US, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan, in Iraq (after it is occupied by US). Because where they are protected by the intelligence, worked as a whip to beat people. When government want money and power, they beat the people with this whip (Al Qaida terror attack) People feel hurt then give up their civil rights and money to the government. DOJ got the Patriot Act and Pentagon got budget and Mid-east war.

Originally posted by kathaksung:

Al Qaida in US when Bush needs excuse to activate Mid-east war.

Bush is no longer in office. Obama is President now.
(More just plain anti-US rhetoric )

This Brush bloke looks like an Al Qaida puppet to me!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipg_7ly8HoM

Well how long has it took him to realise that his title of his post ,we have known that for over how many years .I think we gathered that when Russia were in Afghanistan....many many many moons and light years away .lol

kathaksung ! You are scaring me !

Originally posted by Cocoa_butter:

Well how long has it took him to realise that his title of his post ,we have known that for over how many years .I think we gathered that when Russia were in Afghanistan....many many many moons and light years away .lol

Yes, very interesting...who was it who trained & financed Osama bin Laden now? No...let me think....I know..the KGB? No it wasn't them...MI6? No...it wasn't them. Let me think....it's on the tip of my tongue....I know....the CIA! Oh....but aren't they American? Ooh Spooky!

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Yes, very interesting...who was it who trained & financed Osama bin Laden now? No...let me think....I know..the KGB? No it wasn't them...MI6? No...it wasn't them. Let me think....it's on the tip of my tongue....I know....the CIA! Oh....but aren't they American? Ooh Spooky!

Correct but we trained them too. There was a secret mock Soviet outpost created to help in their training, complete with BMPs etc. in the borders. We should all have left the Soviets alone with the problem. They wanted to re-install a government, albeit a socialist one (it is an ill wind...) that had improved the Afghans' lot. We claimed that they were wanting to move southwards bit-by-bit with the aim of getting a warm water port. Basically, anything done by the Soviets had to be wrong!
Now we are reaping the harvest.

Originally posted by Acorn15:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Yes, very interesting...who was it who trained & financed Osama bin Laden now? No...let me think....I know..the KGB? No it wasn't them...MI6? No...it wasn't them. Let me think....it's on the tip of my tongue....I know....the CIA! Oh....but aren't they American? Ooh Spooky!

Correct but we trained them too. There was a secret mock Soviet outpost created to help in their training, complete with BMPs etc. in the borders. We should all have left the Soviets alone with the problem. They wanted to re-install a government, albeit a socialist one (it is an ill wind...) that had improved the Afghans' lot. We claimed that they were wanting to move southwards bit-by-bit with the aim of getting a warm water port. Basically, anything done by the Soviets had to be wrong!
Now we are reaping the harvest.

Well, if you are going to train someone, you may as well use the best. Imagine you are a hostage somewhere, possibly being threatened with execution. Which nation has the most professional & best trained army in the world & which would you hope were coming to rescue you?

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Which nation has the most professional & best trained army in the world & which would you hope were coming to rescue you?

The US Army of course.

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Yes, very interesting...who was it who trained & financed Osama bin Laden now? No...let me think....I know..the KGB? No it wasn't them...MI6? No...it wasn't them. Let me think....it's on the tip of my tongue....I know....the CIA! Oh....but aren't they American? Ooh Spooky!

Yeah, and the US Marines trained and financed for a while one Lee Harvey Oswald. Disingenuous argument. It's like pointing out some British army-trained IRA operative and saying "Aha! YOU trained the IRA!"

Oh wait, it was Sam Giancana, Santo Trafficante and Carlos Marcello who killed JFK. Or was it the Pentagon?

Originally posted by fanfaron:

Yeah, and the US Marines trained and financed for a while one Lee Harvey Oswald. Disingenuous argument. It's like pointing out some British army-trained IRA operative and saying "Aha! YOU trained the IRA!"

Oh wait, it was Sam Giancana, Santo Trafficante and Carlos Marcello who killed JFK. Or was it the Pentagon?

My guess is that it was the Mafia with the sanction of the Pentagon. I don't think he pulled the trigger, he may have been there, & had the ability, but I reckon he didn't do it. He did say he was a patsy or a pasty or something. I don't know what Cornish meat products have to do with it but there is a CIA/Mebyon Kernow connection somewhere. Anyway, everyone knows the CIA & Uncle Sam are the bad guys anyway. It has to be their fault.

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Originally posted by Cocoa_butter:

Well how long has it took him to realise that his title of his post ,we have known that for over how many years .I think we gathered that when Russia were in Afghanistan....many many many moons and light years away .lol

Yes, very interesting...who was it who trained & financed Osama bin Laden now? No...let me think....I know..the KGB? No it wasn't them...MI6? No...it wasn't them. Let me think....it's on the tip of my tongue....I know....the CIA! Oh....but aren't they American? Ooh Spooky!

OH yeaaaaaaaaaah spooooooooooooooooooky

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Which nation has the most professional & best trained army in the world & which would you hope were coming to rescue you?

The US Army of course.

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Originally posted by fanfaron:

Yeah, and the US Marines trained and financed for a while one Lee Harvey Oswald. Disingenuous argument. It's like pointing out some British army-trained IRA operative and saying "Aha! YOU trained the IRA!"

Oh wait, it was Sam Giancana, Santo Trafficante and Carlos Marcello who killed JFK. Or was it the Pentagon?

My guess is that it was the Mafia with the sanction of the Pentagon. I don't think he pulled the trigger, he may have been there, & had the ability, but I reckon he didn't do it. He did say he was a patsy or a pasty or something. I don't know what Cornish meat products have to do with it but there is a CIA/Mebyon Kernow connection somewhere. Anyway, everyone knows the CIA & Uncle Sam are the bad guys anyway. It has to be their fault.

i was told there was an auntie sam as well

Originally posted by Cocoa_butter:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Originally posted by Cocoa_butter:

Well how long has it took him to realise that his title of his post ,we have known that for over how many years .I think we gathered that when Russia were in Afghanistan....many many many moons and light years away .lol

Yes, very interesting...who was it who trained & financed Osama bin Laden now? No...let me think....I know..the KGB? No it wasn't them...MI6? No...it wasn't them. Let me think....it's on the tip of my tongue....I know....the CIA! Oh....but aren't they American? Ooh Spooky!

OH yeaaaaaaaaaah spooooooooooooooooooky

I think it was just an amazing coincidence Cocoa. The Americans would never do anything that immoral....would they?

Originally posted by Cocoa_butter:

i was told there was an auntie sam as well

I will bet money they are brother & sister (same gene pool or gene puddle as George W.).

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Originally posted by Cocoa_butter:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Originally posted by Cocoa_butter:

Well how long has it took him to realise that his title of his post ,we have known that for over how many years .I think we gathered that when Russia were in Afghanistan....many many many moons and light years away .lol

Yes, very interesting...who was it who trained & financed Osama bin Laden now? No...let me think....I know..the KGB? No it wasn't them...MI6? No...it wasn't them. Let me think....it's on the tip of my tongue....I know....the CIA! Oh....but aren't they American? Ooh Spooky!

OH yeaaaaaaaaaah spooooooooooooooooooky

I think it was just an amazing coincidence Cocoa. The Americans would never do anything that immoral....would they?

Nor way They squeaky clean even with st davids star

Originally posted by Daveski17:

I think it was just an amazing coincidence Cocoa. The Americans would never do anything that immoral....would they?

Applying individual moral standards to governments? Good luck. In finding a moral one, that is.

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Which nation has the most professional & best trained army in the world & which would you hope were coming to rescue you?

The Israelis, hands down.

Originally posted by Cocoa_butter:

Nor way They squeaky clean even with st davids star

Awwww...some day maybe we'll be as clean and smart as Hamas.

Originally posted by fanfaron:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

I think it was just an amazing coincidence Cocoa. The Americans would never do anything that immoral....would they?

Applying individual moral standards to governments? Good luck. In finding a moral one, that is.

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Which nation has the most professional & best trained army in the world & which would you hope were coming to rescue you?

The Israelis, hands down.

Originally posted by Cocoa_butter:

Nor way They squeaky clean even with st davids star

Awwww...some day maybe we'll be as clean and smart as Hamas.

you can and i am not bothered of hamas, only the innocents im am interested in , others can go kiss my ass ,there be some body better than Hamas and he has risen hes da man OBAMA

Originally posted by Cocoa_butter:

you can and i am not bothered of hamas, only the innocents im am interested in , others can go kiss my ass ,there be some body better than Hamas and he has risen hes da man OBAMA

I have a feeling you might be setting yourself up for heartbreak.

Originally posted by fanfaron:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

I think it was just an amazing coincidence Cocoa. The Americans would never do anything that immoral....would they?

Applying individual moral standards to governments? Good luck. In finding a moral one, that is.

Yeah, I'm on to a bit of a loser there....Oxymoron of the day; Moral Government, Moron of the day; Gordon Brown.

Originally posted by fanfaron:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Which nation has the most professional & best trained army in the world & which would you hope were coming to rescue you?

The Israelis, hands down.

No way. They wish they had the skills & training of the SAS, SBS etc! (The British Infantry are the finest in the world, luckily there aren't many of them ~ Napoleon Bonaparte)

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Your all over Kat. Who pays your way????

Originally posted by Daveski17:

(The British Infantry are the finest in the world, luckily there aren't many of them ~ Napoleon Bonaparte)

Seriously now, You're talking about 209 years ago!

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

(The British Infantry are the finest in the world, luckily there aren't many of them ~ Napoleon Bonaparte)

Seriously now, You're talking about 209 years ago!

And we are still the finest infantry. My Dad was in the Royal Artillery & he told me, so it must be true. Over 200 years & still the best. The RAF is the best (& first ever) air force as well.

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

(The British Infantry are the finest in the world, luckily there aren't many of them ~ Napoleon Bonaparte)

Seriously now, You're talking about 209 years ago!

And we are still the finest infantry. My Dad was in the Royal Artillery & he told me, so it must be true. Over 200 years & still the best. The RAF is the best (& first ever) air force as well.

I believe both the US and UK have fine infantries. We will both however be predjudiced because of where we live. Simple as that!

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Originally posted by Cocoa_butter:

Well how long has it took him to realise that his title of his post ,we have known that for over how many years .I think we gathered that when Russia were in Afghanistan....many many many moons and light years away .lol

Yes, very interesting...who was it who trained & financed Osama bin Laden now? No...let me think....I know..the KGB? No it wasn't them...MI6? No...it wasn't them. Let me think....it's on the tip of my tongue....I know....the CIA! Oh....but aren't they American? Ooh Spooky!

If Al Qaida is a puppet, the handler, of course is US military and intelligence.

Quote, "Al Qaeda Tapes: Direct Link To Military Psyops And Donald Rumsfeld
Following the trail for five minutes leads to Pentagon
Steve Watson / Infowars.net | October 5 2006
Related: Surprise Surprise, It's Another Al Qaeda Blockbuster Release <http://infowars.net/articles/October2006/021006video.htm>
Related: Atta's Father Says Video Fake, Credibility of 'Hijackers Tape' Crumbles <http://infowars.net/articles/October2006/031006faketerror.htm>
U.S. Government Caught Red-Handed Releasing Staged Al-Qaeda Videos <http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2006/051006redhanded.htm>

Following on from our three features on the latest dubious Al Qaeda video, We can reveal that further investigation into the origin of Al Qaeda video and tape release leads straight back to US military intelligence and Donald Rumsfeld.

The origin of the latest video, starring Mohammed Atta and flight 93 hijacker Ziad Jarrah, has been swept under the carpet by the mainstream media who bizarrely admit that the government has had the tape since late 2001 but still suggest it is a new release by Al Qaeda.
Interesting also is the fact that in an NBC article <http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15082633/>, they admit that before receiving the "exclusive US analysis" of the London Sunday Times' tape, they had filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the same tape of Atta earlier this year:
"The Sunday Times said it had obtained the video “through a previously tested channel” but gave no further details. NBC News filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the videotapes early this year, but the Pentagon has not yet turned them over. "
This is an open admission that it is the Pentagon that has released this tape and not Al Qaeda. this dovetails with our previous analysis that revealed that the footage has been seen before in a docudrama, the Road to Guantanamo, where it is shown to detainees at camp Delta as an intelligence surveillance tape.

Along with experts on Islamic terrorist groups
<http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/031006Atta.htm> who are baffled by the video and have declared that it has come from a security agency, the very journalist who received the tape also says the source was not Al Qaeda. <http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/051006Atta.htm>

Originally posted by kathaksung:

If Al Qaida is a puppet, the handler, of course is US military and intelligence.

Quote, "Al Qaeda Tapes: Direct Link To Military Psyops And Donald Rumsfeld
Following the trail for five minutes leads to Pentagon
Steve Watson / Infowars.net | October 5 2006
Related: Surprise Surprise, It's Another Al Qaeda Blockbuster Release <http://infowars.net/articles/October2006/021006video.htm>
Related: Atta's Father Says Video Fake, Credibility of 'Hijackers Tape' Crumbles <http://infowars.net/articles/October2006/031006faketerror.htm>
U.S. Government Caught Red-Handed Releasing Staged Al-Qaeda Videos <http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2006/051006redhanded.htm>

Following on from our three features on the latest dubious Al Qaeda video, We can reveal that further investigation into the origin of Al Qaeda video and tape release leads straight back to US military intelligence and Donald Rumsfeld.

The origin of the latest video, starring Mohammed Atta and flight 93 hijacker Ziad Jarrah, has been swept under the carpet by the mainstream media who bizarrely admit that the government has had the tape since late 2001 but still suggest it is a new release by Al Qaeda.
Interesting also is the fact that in an NBC article <http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15082633/>, they admit that before receiving the "exclusive US analysis" of the London Sunday Times' tape, they had filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the same tape of Atta earlier this year:
"The Sunday Times said it had obtained the video “through a previously tested channel” but gave no further details. NBC News filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the videotapes early this year, but the Pentagon has not yet turned them over. "
This is an open admission that it is the Pentagon that has released this tape and not Al Qaeda. this dovetails with our previous analysis that revealed that the footage has been seen before in a docudrama, the Road to Guantanamo, where it is shown to detainees at camp Delta as an intelligence surveillance tape.

Along with experts on Islamic terrorist groups
<http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/031006Atta.htm> who are baffled by the video and have declared that it has come from a security agency, the very journalist who received the tape also says the source was not Al Qaeda. <http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/051006Atta.htm>

OK, you caught us red handed ..

We'll stop now.

Originally posted by MAXXTHRUST:

We'll stop now.

No we won't. We won't until someone decides to retaliate against us.
That has been the nature of this for the past 60 years. It will continue.

I and other Libertarians advocate staying the hell out of other nation's affairs and to quit this silly business of playing "world policemen" all the time. Nobody obviously cares as they voted for the same (though slightly altered) foreign policy as we've been having. If people had truly wanted change and peace they'd have voted differently. They didn't, so "tally ho" with more or less of the same foreign policy!

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

(The British Infantry are the finest in the world, luckily there aren't many of them ~ Napoleon Bonaparte)

Seriously now, You're talking about 209 years ago!

But then they were found wanting. Battle of New Orleans. Americans 310, Brits 2,300.

Hint - a high score is NOT good.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by MAXXTHRUST:

We'll stop now.

No we won't. We won't until someone decides to retaliate against us.
That has been the nature of this for the past 60 years. It will continue.

I and other Libertarians advocate staying the hell out of other nation's affairs and to quit this silly business of playing "world policemen" all the time. Nobody obviously cares as they voted for the same (though slightly altered) foreign policy as we've been having. If people had truly wanted change and peace they'd have voted differently. They didn't, so "tally ho" with more or less of the same foreign policy!

Disappointing that Obama is ramping down in Iraq while ramping up Afghanistan.

As you settle into the Oval Office, Mr. President, may I offer a suggestion? Please do not try to put Afghanistan aright with the U.S. military. To send our troops out of Iraq and into Afghanistan would be a near-perfect example of going from the frying pan into the fire. There is reason to believe some of our top military commanders privately share this view. And so does a broad and growing swath of your party and your supporters.

True, the United States is the world's greatest power -- but so was the British Empire a century ago when it tried to pacify the warlords and tribes of Afghanistan, only to be forced out after excruciating losses. For that matter, the Soviet Union was also a superpower when it poured some 100,000 troops into Afghanistan in 1979. They limped home, broken and defeated, a decade later, having helped pave the way for the collapse of the Soviet Union.
...
The Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph E. Stiglitz has estimated that the war in Iraq will have a total cost of more than $3 trillion. That war has clearly weakened our economy and our armed forces even as it has made the national debt soar. The Bush administration committed itself to Iraq before the recession. Today, with our economy teetering, does the Obama administration believe that it is time for yet another costly war in yet another Muslim country?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/21/AR2009012102489_pf.html

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

No we won't. We won't until someone decides to retaliate against us.
That has been the nature of this for the past 60 years. It will continue.

I was being sarcasic.

Originally posted by MAXXTHRUST:

I was being sarcasic.

Oh. My apologies.

Originally posted by BernG:

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

(The British Infantry are the finest in the world, luckily there aren't many of them ~ Napoleon Bonaparte)

Seriously now, You're talking about 209 years ago!

But then they were found wanting. Battle of New Orleans. Americans 310, Brits 2,300.

Hint - a high score is NOT good.

We have had our fair share of military disasters (I blame the officers).

FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T MENTION THE CHARGE OF THE LIGHT BRIGADE!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_of_the_light_brigade

Originally posted by fanfaron:

Originally posted by Cocoa_butter:

you can and i am not bothered of hamas, only the innocents im am interested in , others can go kiss my ass ,there be some body better than Hamas and he has risen hes da man OBAMA

I have a feeling you might be setting yourself up for heartbreak.

oh are we hurting no worries he can still be a poster on my wall anyday prezzi or not hes a handsome man

I must aplogise for going back the way but on flicking through this thread i noted that thedawgfan slipped in the comment about the US army being the best in the world (base on?). I understand that Americans have a great affection for their army and have no problem at all with that - to be complimented actually but that doesn't mean it is the best in the world. It is certainly better than it was and has some very efficient units but it took it a long time to try and get rid of it's would-be Hollywood image of itself. Whoeever has the best army I don't know but I can't say that the US is the No 1 in the world. One can only asume that thedawgfan was being humorius or being a not very subtle naughty.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Whoeever has the best army I don't know but I can't say that the US is the No 1 in the world.

Who else could rival ours Mr. Howie?

Originally posted by rjhowie:

One can only asume that thedawgfan was being humorius or being a not very subtle naughty.

I was just speaking my mind. (as usual)

Originally posted by Daveski17:

I think it was just an amazing coincidence Cocoa. The Americans would never do anything that immoral....would they?

We'll be your friend.... as long as you have something we want.

Originally posted by MAXXTHRUST:

Originally posted by Daveski17:

I think it was just an amazing coincidence Cocoa. The Americans would never do anything that immoral....would they?

We'll be your friend.... as long as you have something we want.

We have oil in the North Sea.....ha ha didn't know about that did you? Oh shit....I've let the cat out of the bag 'expects American warplanes to bomb us back to democracy any minute'

Oh, for the shoes of freedom...

Originally posted by kathaksung:

Quote, "Al Qaeda Tapes: Direct Link To Military Psyops And Donald Rumsfeld
Following the trail for five minutes leads to Pentagon
Steve Watson / Infowars.net | October 5 2006
Related: Surprise Surprise, It's Another Al Qaeda Blockbuster Release <http://infowars.net/articles/October2006/021006video.htm>
Related: Atta's Father Says Video Fake, Credibility of 'Hijackers Tape' Crumbles <http://infowars.net/articles/October2006/031006faketerror.htm>
U.S. Government Caught Red-Handed Releasing Staged Al-Qaeda Videos <http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2006/051006redhanded.htm>

Following on from our three features on the latest dubious Al Qaeda video, We can reveal that further investigation into the origin of Al Qaeda video and tape release leads straight back to US military intelligence and Donald Rumsfeld.

The origin of the latest video, starring Mohammed Atta and flight 93 hijacker Ziad Jarrah, has been swept under the carpet by the mainstream media who bizarrely admit that the government has had the tape since late 2001 but still suggest it is a new release by Al Qaeda.
Interesting also is the fact that in an NBC article <http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15082633/>, they admit that before receiving the "exclusive US analysis" of the London Sunday Times' tape, they had filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the same tape of Atta earlier this year:
"The Sunday Times said it had obtained the video “through a previously tested channel” but gave no further details. NBC News filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the videotapes early this year, but the Pentagon has not yet turned them over. "
This is an open admission that it is the Pentagon that has released this tape and not Al Qaeda. this dovetails with our previous analysis that revealed that the footage has been seen before in a docudrama, the Road to Guantanamo, where it is shown to detainees at camp Delta as an intelligence surveillance tape.

Along with experts on Islamic terrorist groups
<http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/031006Atta.htm> who are baffled by the video and have declared that it has come from a security agency, the very journalist who received the tape also says the source was not Al Qaeda. <http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/051006Atta.htm>

It is also interesting that this journalist, Yousri Fouda is not only a Sunday Times journalist but also the London Bureau Chief of Al Jazeera. He is the guy who normally breaks all the Al Qaeda tapes anyway, so really the London Times connection is just a smokescreen.
All evidence indicates that the tapes are provided to Fouda and Al Jazeera by As Sahab, the "production company" of Al Qaeda, via a group known as Intelcenter , who also SELL the videos online.

Intelcenter normally have the tapes available for sale as soon as they are released, indeed in the past they have even predicted when they are going to get a tape before it is released <http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/07/new_al_qaeda_ta.html>, as they did with the second London bomber tape on the anniversary of 7/7.

Intel center is run by Ben Venzke, who is an interesting character. A google search <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Venzke%2Bidefense> results in the revelation that he used to be the director of intelligence at a company called IDEFENSE which is a verisign company.

IDEFENSE is a web security company that monitors intelligence from the middle east conflicts and focuses on cyber threats among other things.

It is also heavily populated with long serving ex military intelligence officials.
The Director of Threat intelligence, Jim Melnick, served 16 years in the US army and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and worked in psychological operations. From the IDEFENSE website:

Prior to joining iDefense, Mr. Melnick served with distinction for more than 16 years in the U.S. Army and the Defense Intelligence Agency. During this period, Mr. Melnick served in a variety of roles, including psychological operations, international warning issues with emphasis on foreign affairs and information operations and Russian affairs. He also served in active political/military intelligence roles with an emphasis on foreign affairs. Mr. Melnick is currently a U.S. Army Reserve Colonel with Military Intelligence, assigned to the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Mr. Melnick has been published in numerous military and foreign affairs journals, and has received numerous military and DIA awards. Mr. Melnick has a Master of Arts in National Security and Strategic Studies from the U.S. Naval War College, a Master of Arts in Russian studies from Harvard University, and a Bachelor of Arts with Honors in Political Science from Westminster College.

So here we have a company that by it's own admission has a senior military psy-op intelligence officer who has worked directly for Donald Rumsfeld. As Intelcenter and Ben Venzke are directly connected to IDEFENSE, this puts Rumsfeld 3 small steps away from the Al Qaeda propaganda videos.

http://www.infowars.net/articles/October2006/051006Rumsfeld.htm

Originally posted by Daveski17:

Oh, for the shoes of freedom...

I guess some set up a statue of the SHOE... Iraq Government made them remove it... I do hope it shows up on EBAY!

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Who else could rival ours Mr. Howie?

Dawg, RJ, it depends upon how you base "the best". In size and equipment the US Army can dwarf the British Army. The US National Guard has more choppers than the British Army, RN and RAF combined.
However, if you define "the best" by training and ability of like-sized components then the British Army is the superior. I have had the pleasure of working with US troops and it was a pleasure.
They were friendly (and rightly competeitive), generous and honest. Even they were surprised at the differences. US sergeants were amazed at the leadership and authority of British lance corporals. The rank system is different and so causes confusion (as is the case with other armies).

The regimental system in the UK has stood the test of time, even although battered and bruised by recent governments. Soldiers are aware from the outset of their regimental history (often going back centuries) andtheir responsibility to maintain the standards. The US sadly destroyed a good system that worked and created a grind-mill system which dishonours their past, present and their future soldiers. Sadly. unless the UK gets a government with sense, we might go the same way - the rot has already started. That said, the US Army appears to have shed the shadow of Vietnam (painted by dishonourable civilians) and conscription and improved soldiers' individual skills, creating a professional army.

Technology is a two-edged sword. The US Army is the most technologically superior force on the globe. They are also the most technically reliant army on the globe.If the electronics go down, they must rely on their individual training which is not as good as that in the British Army. I do not base that statement purely on my own observations but also those on the observations of US soldiers with whom I worked.

As an aside, I reckon the best trained soldiers in 1914 were the Brits and in 1939, the Germans (just in case I am regarded as biased).

Quantanamo detainees (1/27/09)

Quote, "The Defense Department has said as many as 61 former Guantanamo detainees -- about 11 percent of 520 detainees transferred from the detention center and released -- are believed to have returned to the fight."
washingtonindependent.com/26969/those-61-gitmo-recidivists-keep-popping-back-up -

1. These people were released under Bush regime. So Pentagon had purpose on it. Do you think the people like Rumsfeld and Bush would free extremists to fight against them? They are famous for torture, illegal detaining. More likely these are false flag "terrorist" trained by Pentagon's Guantanamo college. They will work for the interest of US intelligence.

2. How do you know they were not brain washed, or recruited by US military or intelligence? The dirty bomb suspect, Padilla, was once designed to be the witness to prove Iraq related to dirty bomb plot, was recruited in prison. (The plan was soured after my revelation)

3. When people are aware of that 911 was a false flag attack, this becomes a typical model that government manipulate the "terrorists" to squeeze money and power from people. European country has reason to refuse those Gitmo prisoners. They are likely false flag "terrorist" working for Pentagon and US intelligence. They will play the role like Bin Laden.

You should talk to boazjones, he has an entire theory about puppets (& for some peculiar reason, socks).

Al Quaida is US /UK/ISRAEL /come middleeast puppets

Quote, "The Defense Department has said as many as 61 former Guantanamo detainees -- about 11 percent of 520 detainees transferred from the detention center and released -- are believed to have returned to the fight."
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This news may prove what I have said that Al Qaida exists where US intelligence dominates. They are protected and supported by Pentagon and Feds and work as a false flag to the US interest. That's why they are from Bin Laden (CIA trained Majahidden) Sadi, Pakistan (US allies) and US Guantanamo. And none was from Iraq (Saddam's regime) Iran or Syria.

61 released Guantanamo detainees return to fight, it only proves Guantanamo becomes a big train center of the false flag terrorists.

Al Qaida (or most other terrrorist group) exists where US intelligence dominates. Al Qaida in US when Bush needs excuse to activate Mid-east war. That was 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there was no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. But they appear to attack ordinary people when the government either is controlled by US intelligence or supported by US intelligence. That's why you see Al Qaida attacks in US, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan, in Iraq (after it is occupied by US). Because where they are protected by the intelligence, worked as a whip to beat people. When government want money and power, they beat the people with this whip (Al Qaida terror attack) People feel hurt then give up their civil rights and money to the government. DOJ got the Patriot Act. Pentagon got fat budget and Mid-east war.

Quote, "Fictional Al Qaeda
<http://www.stewebbb.com/>

Al Qaeda is nothing more than an extension of the operatus linked to US intelligence that was allowed, by script, to remove itself as a rogue break away entity of the US government, allowed to de-compartmentalise from oversight, and was run instead by Gary Best, rogue black ops specialists for scripted activity outside of the US Government, with its funding being orchestrated through the Pakistani secret police, an entity of the US Government itself.

-- Tom Heneghan, 2004 Presidential Candidate, American Patriot and Federal

One JFK theory (conspiricy theory) is that he was targeted for what he was planning on doing: moving away from the world banks back to a gold standard. BTW: Secret service's FIRST role is to protect the money system, NOT the president, he comes in second to that.

Al Qaida, whomever funds them, is still anti-US, and will show up to fight us.

BTW: isn't all this OT for a forum on the Opera Browser???

Originally posted by wbarnes:

BTW: isn't all this OT for a forum on the Opera Browser???

That's why it's in the Off-Topic section

Al Qaida's resource

Any resistence needs resource. From money to ammunition. Vietcon had the support from two big powers - Soviet and China.

Where did the support of Al Qaida come from? Not from Saddam's Iraq, Syria, Iran. If there was, US already beat the drum to invade. Al Qaida only prosperous in Iraq after it is occupied by US army. Because they are supported by pentagon and intelligence. Bin Laden's resistence is known as Mujahiddem before 911. Everybody knows it was trained and supported by CIA. Al Qaida was only a data base in communication for Mujahiddem before 911. After 911, to prevent people to link CIA from Mujahiddem, they created Al Qaida and since blame everything on it.

But where did Al Qaida get the resource from? No nation dare to offend US - a super power. So the support must be from either from Alladin's magic Lantern or US secret budget.

Quote, The head of Pakistan’s ISI, General Mahmud Ahmed, had ordered to wire $100,000 to the leader of 911 attack, Mohammed Atta through the hand of Omar Sheikh. This has been confirmed by the director of the FBI’s financial crimes unit, Dennis Lormel.

Quote, " Musharraf names 9/11 suspect as possible British asset
Fails to mention links to 9/11, ISI, CIA
By Devlin Buckley
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Originally posted by kathaksung:

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Where did the support of Al Qaida come from?

Wasn't Bin Laden a billionaire? Maybe he broke into his piggy bank.

Maybe this is just one prototypical anti-American- they are the infidels rant?