feature request - global on/off switch + per-site settings

Forums » Dev.Opera » Opera Dragonfly Discussions

You need to be logged in to post in the forums. If you do not have an account, please sign up first.

11. February 2009, 04:38:04

fearphage

Trained Swordsman of Unwanted Opera Termination

Posts: 2231

feature request - global on/off switch + per-site settings

The problem currently is dragonfly is off until it is open/visible. I think dragonfly needs:
  • an on/off switch
  • an open/close switch
  • per-site settings
For comparison, firebug is globally enabled 24/7 and i only disable certain aspects on a per-site basis (like the net tab for gmail because of performance).
Always latest weekly; XP Pro SP2
My bugs / disable RSS subscription prompt (This will disable email and chat as well) / Receive emailed copies of your bug reports

quote from desktopteam blog Feb 23 2007 06:49.36 (direct link to comment)

Originally posted by borg:

we will not be satisfied before we have the best developer tools in the industry

Source: Mozilla Links - 5 things I’d like to see in Opera

Originally posted by Percy Cabello:

One of the main reasons I prefer Firefox is that it starts from the belief that it can’t be the ideal browser for everybody

11. February 2009, 21:50:04

kyleabaker

mr. kyleabaker

Posts: 207

+1
<a href="http://www.kyleabaker.com/">kyleabaker.com</a>
<a href="http://www.bimmermania.com/">bimmermania.com</a>
<a href="http://www.operawatch.com/">operawatch.com</a>

16. February 2009, 01:47:37

pdarko

/dev/random

Posts: 271

+10
Poor man is not one who have little, but one who desires more.

6. August 2009, 04:49:07

fearphage

Trained Swordsman of Unwanted Opera Termination

Posts: 2231

Any staff response to this? Is this indevelopment? never happening? anything?
Always latest weekly; XP Pro SP2
My bugs / disable RSS subscription prompt (This will disable email and chat as well) / Receive emailed copies of your bug reports

quote from desktopteam blog Feb 23 2007 06:49.36 (direct link to comment)

Originally posted by borg:

we will not be satisfied before we have the best developer tools in the industry

Source: Mozilla Links - 5 things I’d like to see in Opera

Originally posted by Percy Cabello:

One of the main reasons I prefer Firefox is that it starts from the belief that it can’t be the ideal browser for everybody

11. August 2009, 13:23:26

fearphage

Trained Swordsman of Unwanted Opera Termination

Posts: 2231

The goal of this is white and black lists. Either you turn it on globally and blacklist some sites (gmail for instance) or you can turn it off globally and whitelist some sites. So when you're on a site from the whitelist, df is enabled although you may not see it. So when I open df on a whitelisted site, I don't need to reload to see scripts are reload to see the net traffic because they should always be captured because this site is whitelisted.

Having to reload pages for things to function is time consuming and in some cases completely nullifies the point of trying to debug. There is no guarantee I can break the same thing twice consistently. Sometimes I need to debug the here and now... not reload and then debug.

Originally posted by fearphage:

Any staff response to this? Is this indevelopment? never happening? anything?


Always latest weekly; XP Pro SP2
My bugs / disable RSS subscription prompt (This will disable email and chat as well) / Receive emailed copies of your bug reports

quote from desktopteam blog Feb 23 2007 06:49.36 (direct link to comment)

Originally posted by borg:

we will not be satisfied before we have the best developer tools in the industry

Source: Mozilla Links - 5 things I’d like to see in Opera

Originally posted by Percy Cabello:

One of the main reasons I prefer Firefox is that it starts from the belief that it can’t be the ideal browser for everybody

24. August 2009, 12:58:57

fearphage

Trained Swordsman of Unwanted Opera Termination

Posts: 2231

Is this thing on? Are you waiting for the surprise of it having been done already in core 2.3?
Always latest weekly; XP Pro SP2
My bugs / disable RSS subscription prompt (This will disable email and chat as well) / Receive emailed copies of your bug reports

quote from desktopteam blog Feb 23 2007 06:49.36 (direct link to comment)

Originally posted by borg:

we will not be satisfied before we have the best developer tools in the industry

Source: Mozilla Links - 5 things I’d like to see in Opera

Originally posted by Percy Cabello:

One of the main reasons I prefer Firefox is that it starts from the belief that it can’t be the ideal browser for everybody

8. September 2009, 17:50:09

Opera Software

dstorey

Posts: 237

If we spent all our time in the forums, we’d never get any work or development done wink

I like the core of your idea. A white list may make sense, such as for your development server, the domain of the site you are developing and localhost. That would obviously require some changes in the browser. I'll bring it up with the team.
<q>Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens.</q> - Jimi Hendrix

David Storey, Chief Web Opener, Product Manager Opera Dragonfly, Opera Software ASA

9. September 2009, 09:27:47 (edited)

fearphage

Trained Swordsman of Unwanted Opera Termination

Posts: 2231

Originally posted by dstorey:

If we spent all our time in the forums, we’d never get any work or development done

All of your time is quite a bit of exaggeration really. The df forums aren't very active. 3 posts per day would be a big overestimate of the traffic. I/we don't want or need a full thesis in each thread. Simply, "yes, we are working on that now", "we're researching that", "that's interesting", "we'll investigate the possibility of...", "hell no, we'll never do that, are you retarded?!", or similar one-line responses would generally be appreciated. That alone would set these forums apart from the desktop wish-list forums which function more like a one-way wishing well. Initially, dragonfly started very open with lots of bidirectional communication. This is one of the few aspects of Opera's development that functions that way. I would like to maintain that.
Always latest weekly; XP Pro SP2
My bugs / disable RSS subscription prompt (This will disable email and chat as well) / Receive emailed copies of your bug reports

quote from desktopteam blog Feb 23 2007 06:49.36 (direct link to comment)

Originally posted by borg:

we will not be satisfied before we have the best developer tools in the industry

Source: Mozilla Links - 5 things I’d like to see in Opera

Originally posted by Percy Cabello:

One of the main reasons I prefer Firefox is that it starts from the belief that it can’t be the ideal browser for everybody

25. September 2009, 17:24:18

TigerC10

Posts: 7

+1 for this request; going through the menu system is very cumbersome (and I can never remember keyboard shortcuts).
~TigerC10~

29. October 2009, 17:02:07

fearphage

Trained Swordsman of Unwanted Opera Termination

Posts: 2231

Filed as DFL-811
Always latest weekly; XP Pro SP2
My bugs / disable RSS subscription prompt (This will disable email and chat as well) / Receive emailed copies of your bug reports

quote from desktopteam blog Feb 23 2007 06:49.36 (direct link to comment)

Originally posted by borg:

we will not be satisfied before we have the best developer tools in the industry

Source: Mozilla Links - 5 things I’d like to see in Opera

Originally posted by Percy Cabello:

One of the main reasons I prefer Firefox is that it starts from the belief that it can’t be the ideal browser for everybody

Forums » Dev.Opera » Opera Dragonfly Discussions