Opera.com freedom

Opera.com freedom

What is Opera.com/freedom all about? I hate it when people are quiet and secretive about things

Hmm
Can you wait till june 16?
You can also guess...

Nope, cant wait till the 16th. Its much to far away

Opera browser designer Jon Hicks says they've managed to squeeze the whole of the internet on to a usb stick.
Not bad is it! haha

Perhaps Opera 10 Beta1 made it to the final already!

Originally posted by moirob:

Perhaps Opera 10 Beta1 made it

The page suggests it's something about web clouds... a large update to Link, perhaps? Although that would be great (settings sync, password sync, cookies sync, rss feeds sync etc), it's hardly "reinvention".

My other idea is that Opera is out of server capacity for Turbo, and wants all Opera users with fast connections to be a part of the global Opera Turbo farm, to compress and push out lofi-web to people with slow connections. Nah.

Or perhaps MS has given in, and start providing Windows with IE and Opera....freedom to choose between them? Extremely unlikely.

A web cloud sounds good. I've just starting using the built in rss feed again, it would nice if they linked that to Opera Link. But like you say, not a reinvention.

Perhaps all websites have started using css standards and stopped browser sniffing...that would be a reinvention! haha

Heh, yes. An international treaty, signed by The World, forbidding all sites not following web standards.

The lightning suggests it's about Turbo, which suggests that it's about 10. But 10 can not possibly be finished... I don't get it.

My new suggestion: they have magically finished Opera 10, Opera Mobile 10 (not 9.7) and Opera Mini 5, and everything gets released on Tuesday. : - D

They've set up Opera Wi-Fi for all users and have Opera on a USB stick for everyone to use anywhere and anytime.

Cloud browsing.

Major updates to Opera Link.

...that's all I have.

Portable? Interesting. But it gotta be impressive as well!

Small size, or a stripped down functions of Opera will be cool as well. x]

Check out the source code. When they first announced opera.com/freedom, it said

We start our little story with the invention of the modern day computer...

Now it is:

We start our little story with the invention of the modern day computer. Over the years, the computers grew in numbers, and the next natural step in the evolution was ...

Can't wait to be a geek and check the source code several times a day till Tuesday!

i'll just be a half-geek then and check the forums to see what the source code geeks post here

that cloud idea is a good one. i just thought it was something about 10 being released.

edit:

What if it's a cloud OS by opera? that would be crazy!

Well, they HAVE been hiring a lot lately.

Originally posted by Tamil:

Optimised Opera browser for USB?

Haha. ^^

In any case, I really hope they won't disappoint us. The wording is... ambitious.

Opera Freedom Exposed!

That's it Opera on USB...i will try this one...you just intall Opera on USB...never try before

Originally posted by moirob:

Perhaps Opera 10 Beta1 made it to the final already!

Well ... "already" would be the wrong word, yes? We still have a week to go.

Really, I expect another snapshot tomorrow, but probably without ... well, whatever it is.

"cloud OS by opera? that would be crazy!"

that will be very very on the nail.


really really really cool...

now i want opera OS...

I hope OperaLink is expanded. It sucks I can't even sync the most obvious thing, contacts....

I know what you mean

for the time being
http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/share-opera-settings-between-windows-linux

It seems like "cloud computing" with something to do with Turbo. Perhaps using all their turbo-servers in Sweden (is that where they are) for some kind of cloud app. Interesting snippets from the page source:

The Web is your browser. Discover how fast and fun the Web can be

new browser, fastest, beta

I thought they were in Oslo...

It's no a secret at all, guys... simply use a search engine.
Just a clue: AJAX + mobile.

Originally posted by purgossu:

It's no a secret at all, guys... simply use a search engine.

Really. And what are we supposed to search for?

Just a clue: AJAX + mobile.

What about it? Opera Mobile already supports Ajax. Has done so for ages.

But such things already exist

http://www.opera-usb.com/operausben.htm
http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable

Originally posted by purgossu:

Just a clue: AJAX + mobile.

Do you know what AJAX is? Many people just use it as a buzzword. All AJAX is is XHR, not exactly a "reinvention" of the web.

Opera.com/freedom is the announcement that they will buy Microsoft and Intel. After that they will buy Amazon.com, Google, and eBay.

Then they will feel free.

New part of story:

We start our little story with the invention of the modern day computer.
Over the years, the computers grew in numbers, and the next natural step in the evolution was to connect them together. To share things ...

BTW - http://www.favbrowser.com/opera-freedom-mozilla-jetpack/

Now it's:

We start our little story with the invention of the modern day computer.
Over the years, the computers grew in numbers, and the next natural step in the evolution was to connect them together. To share things.
But as these little networks grew, some computers gained more power than the rest and called themselves servers ...

Hmm... seems it really has something to do with cloud computing and turbo.

Originally posted by lucideer:

turbo-servers in Sweden

Originally posted by klingoncowboy4:

I thought they were in Oslo...

Yes, and Oslo is the capital of Norway.

Originally posted by Morphdreamer:

http://www.favbrowser.com/opera-freedom-mozilla-jetpack/

Hmmm... jetpack.... Opera already has that... widgets


Maybe widgets will get an update? Still guessing though...

Opera mobile 9.7 comes out of beta and goes final.

Reading the opera blog article for Mobile 9.7 before the reinvent article and they use similar words. Although the source for /freedom only says desktop browser and not mobile.

Come on Tuesday

From the recent tweet by @opera, it seems pretty clear this will be a server side technology. Opera is taking the browser to the clouds.

Originally posted by leirom:

Originally posted by lucideer:

turbo-servers in Sweden

Originally posted by klingoncowboy4:

I thought they were in Oslo...

Yes, and Oslo is the capital of Norway.

whats my prize?

so opera is going in the direction of "Microsoft Gazelle"? (a next step in MSFT's
new browser which is basically an OS or "virtual OS" running w/in an OS?.......
........YES!!!!

Tim Berners-Lee - On the next Web

Could it be an inplementation of the idea around Linked Data?

Originally posted by leirom:

Yes, and Oslo is the capital of Norway.

I know where Opera ASA is located, the Turbo servers however are not in Norway it seems: http://my.opera.com/Andrew%20Gregory/blog/2009/02/17/opera-turbo-and-internet-filtering

I say: webpage compression servers for all!

I'm pleased with the openID fiel I just noticed in the portal

8)

Originally posted by lucideer:

I know where Opera ASA is located, the Turbo servers however are not in Norway it seems: http://my.opera.com/Andrew%20Gregory/blog/2009/02/17/opera-turbo-and-internet-filtering

It seems those servers are in the US, same with the Opera Mini 4.2 servers.

Originally posted by bhsand:

But 10 can not possibly be finished... I don't get it.

Well, scarily enough, it could be "finished". Opera seems to vacilliate between 5 betas and 4 RCs and one beta and on to "final"... I get the feeling that they always try to do a huge bunch of testing and betas, but then management says "Thou shalt ship on $date, damn the bugs and full speed ahead!"...

So I wouldn't discount the final release of v10. With 10.01 to follow next week to fix the showstopper bugs...

Opera also is prone to hyperbole - I don't think they take themselves seriously, but also don't seem to understand how to market to the US at least. Think of the "Power Ranger" for instance...

Of course, maybe they really have something, but I wouldn't bet on it. I still am giddy with anticipation, though I fully expect to be disappointed.

Originally posted by moirob:

Opera mobile 9.7 comes out of beta and goes final.

Reading the opera blog article for Mobile 9.7 before the reinvent article and they use similar words. Although the source for /freedom only says desktop browser and not mobile.

Come on Tuesday

Don't forget Opera Turbo will be introduced in Opera 10 in full as well, it isn't just for Opera Mobile.

There's more to it than anything I've seen mentioned yet (and I wouldn't know about mobile versions, so I can't say if that's true or not) ... but of course I'm not allowed to tell you what.

Lets all tie up sgunhouse until it spills the beans.

If we guessed right would you say so?

Here's my take: From all the hints, I think, Opera wants anyone to be able to run his web site off his own computer, not needing a separate remote web server anymore. I wonder how this would work, though, as there are many technical barriers...

I wish for real modern and fast JS engine.
Yet my bet is something about connecting Opera users who surf the same site.

I get it from their description.
When there were many computers we connected them in network and made them able to connect each other.
Now there are "many" Opera users, so it's only natural we'll hook them together.

For me, freedom is having the true choice of web browsers. When people are not aware that other options exists, they are condamned to using the only browser they know: IE, and this leads to the times of IE6 where development had stalled, and MS hardly bothered fixing bugs, because the competition was struggling to be heard. If you like capitalism, you should be in favor of fierce competition where the customer/user wins. The ideal situation would be Microsoft showing a dialog window the first time the user runs Windows, and ask him which browser he wants to install: IE, Firefox, Opera, Chrome, Safari, Seamonkey. The user would know there are options and would be able to make an informed decision instead of undergoing the decision of a mamouth company. He could even install a handful of browser and try them all

Originally posted by Luchio:

I say: webpage compression servers for all!

Like Opera Mobile 9.7 and Opera 10, then?

Originally posted by jp10558:

Opera also is prone to hyperbole - I don't think they take themselves seriously

Opera prone to hyperbole?

That's the funniest thing I've read all day!

If anything, Opera isn't good enough at banging the big drums. While Apple and Mozilla are all over the place lying and over-hyping stuff, Opera is always quite matter-of-fact about things and don't brag as much as the others. It's about time Opera started doing what everyone else is doing!

Originally posted by lucideer:

Do you know what AJAX is? Many people just use it as a buzzword. All AJAX is is XHR, not exactly a "reinvention" of the web.

In short, AJAX is simply XML + Javascript used for interactive web applications. But I agree many people use "AJAX" as a for hype word.

Originally posted by WayOfTheBastard:

Really. And what are we supposed to search for?

opera + freedoom should do be work.


Well, as it seems nobody have took my advice ( ), I should copy/paste this notice:

Opera Software and Freedom Media have announced the world's first mobile widget application based on Opera Software's mobile AJAX authoring environment, Opera Platform. Named “Freedom”, the application offers a collection of mobile pay-per-view services designed to increase the usability of mobile Web based services by offering a suite of widgets such as news, real-time stock prices and maps, all through a rich user interface.

“Freedom is a great demonstration of how the Opera Platform mobile AJAX authoring environment can help operators, handset manufacturers or content providers create compelling user-oriented premium services that are not hindered by the limitations of WAP and GSM/GPRS data transfer speeds,” says Timo Bruns, EVP Mobile, Opera Software. “AJAX has become very popular on the Mac/PC platform, and it makes even more sense in the mobile space as it enables the creation of Web based services that are so fast they seem like local applications.”

The Opera Platform Software Development Kit (SDK) sparked the interest of mobile content providers, mobile analysts and Web developers worldwide when the beta version was released on November 15, 2005. Opera Platform allows developers to create platform independent applications based on well known Web technologies such as HTML, CSS and JavaScript. Together with XMLHttpRequest, the combination of these technologies is popularly referred to as AJAX. AJAX is a Web development technique that is increasingly used to develop new Internet services such as Google Maps and Amazon A9 Search. Opera Platform enables these types of rich Web applications to be developed and used on mobile phones. In addition, Developers can easily adapt existing content and Web applications to run on mobile phones using Opera Platform.

“Using Opera Platform was the natural choice for us when developing the Freedom application” says Frank Rigal, CEO, Freedom Media. “With the Opera Platform Software Development Kit (SDK) we could quickly create a platform-independent mobile widget solution using open-standard Web technologies instead of native code for the different mobile platforms."

At this stage, Freedom will be pre-installed on selected Nokia phones in the Norwegian market, and it will also be available as a free download for Norwegian Nokia S60 mobile owners.