Share your Opera Unite Dream

Share your Opera Unite Dream

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This topic is for everyone. If you are a developer, feel free to discuss ideas with community members about new Opera Unite services.

I have lots of ideas but not going to upload anything to unite.opera.com with this kind of terms:

By uploading Content to Opera’s site, you grant Opera an unrestricted, royalty-free, worldwide, irrevocable license to use, reproduce, display, perform, modify, transmit and distribute such material in any manner, including in connection with Opera's business, and you also agree that Opera is free to use any ideas, concepts, know-how or techniques that you send Opera for any purpose.

BTW

Can I delete my service?

No, you cannot delete your own service. Once a user starts using a service, we do not want to interrupt the running of that service

And how deleting a service from unite.opera.com (removing a possibility to install it) would interrupt anything if the service runs on the users' browser? Or I don't understand something? So my dream is that Opera won't treat volunteer developers like serfs and give them a possibility to resign and take their work with them.

This topic is not a discussion about the terms of service, so let's get on-topic again.

OK, sorry, you are right. Split the topic if you want.

Please don't start with "term of service" we all know that all the company in the world has this and they are not as good as we want it.
But after that, I think it's a great idea what opera it's doing.
I have a stupid question;
I install opera unite and run the service and it's show me how my page will look, and give the direction.
And if i paste that direction to Safari, (in the same computer) it won't work ( i just wanted to see how it will look), so i think i am going later
to another computer and check out .

I install opera unite and run the service and it's show me how my page will look, and give the direction.
And if i paste that direction to Safari, (in the same computer) it won't work ( i just wanted to see how it will look), so i think i am going later
to another computer and check out .

When you look at your "site" in opera, you will notice the URL starts with unite://home.username... etc. When you want to use another browser, just change this to http://work.username... unite:// gives you, among other things, admin privileges. Privileges only accessible from Opera.

Am I correct in thinking that anything that is possible with a current widget is able to be ported into Unite?

I know that it was not the intention for Unite to be stand-alone in capability, but are Opera interested in seeing 3rd party API's included in Unite services? I'm thinking mostly for social-web based tasks, like viewing friends flickr pics, or seeing friends current track being played on last.fm?
It would seem to me that Unite's greatest benefit for the user would be to concatenate these kinds of services into the browser, so that visiting the sites wouldn't be so necessary...

Would these even be possible? I ask only because I'm not a 'dev' but a designer, and so my knowledge is limited when it comes to web services.

i have a few ideas.
it'll b good that opera unite will have the posibility to anounce itself (and search) using zeroconf (or compatible). and you can set in the options of each service individually.

the other was, data persistence on opera proxy (for light content like a web page or fridge) (maybe there can be a opera-side limit like the 1gb for the opera account) and that i can even make "POST"s to the proxy, and the proxy sends the data to my machine when it's back online.

The other is being able to use mysql database in my machine. Im a web dev so i have postgres and mysql running 24/7 in my machine (and apache ) so i'd like to being able to use them also.

i just got this idea watching this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5hr-6cw4M8&feature=player_embedded
using zeroconf you could have opera in your laptop, and joining wlans in cofee shops, reunions, conferences and so. you can do some kind of social stuff, colaborate and a lot more

1 - if i close Opera ask me to leave Unite running as a background process
2 - integrate a friend/group/contact system that is userfriendly
3 - high security management for modules : only friends, only people i know, security keys, validated users ...*
4 - manageable "offline" version of my Unite Page
---- this offline page could for example hold News/rss modules (like igoogle, netvibes)
5 - integrate Unite actions into windows/unix/mac: for example, i right click on a folder, i add it to the Filesharing
6 - shorter url : the current one is TOO long, make it possible to be like >> USERNAME.UNITE.COM > from there i choose my devices
7 - possibilty to define the devices for public : ex device1.name.opera.com [the laptop of my cousin]
8 - skinnable (so people can make cool minimalist functional skins)


list goes
on

hire me

Originally posted by jerobarraco:

the other was, data persistence on opera proxy (for light content like a web page or fridge) (maybe there can be a opera-side limit like the 1gb for the opera account) and that i can even make "POST"s to the proxy, and the proxy sends the data to my machine when it's back online.

I definitely want to see that type of functionality available. Not only important, but vital, imho. Right now for example if someone's Opera (or machine) is not running, and thus the service is not open, all we get is a 404... not very friendly.

Originally posted by nasrallah:

1 - if i close Opera ask me to leave Unite running as a background process
4 - manageable "offline" version of my Unite Page
---- this offline page could for example hold News/rss modules (like igoogle, netvibes)
6 - shorter url : the current one is TOO long, make it possible to be like >> USERNAME.UNITE.COM > from there i choose my devices
8 - skinnable (so people can make cool minimalist functional skins)

as for 1 - please not an annoying dialogue each time. I think an option in the settings would be far more appropriate (or a command switch for example).

4 - definite yes, as I stated above.
6 - I also agree its a bit long. Regardless of the fact that the idea is to copy/paste it, shorter is better.

Yeah everywhere where you give URL to share with friends, add a button COPY.
OperaUnite is like content/appsharing for noobz(I know it's much more than that), and noobs like button to do simple action, furthermore, if I get to share url with someone everyday, a button is userfriendly.

My other OperaUnite dream would be to stream video, maybe live vids?

I'd like to have a service for opera unite, like "messenger" which tell me when is one of my friends connected so I can access to their unite site. And also the inclusion to social services, like making a tab in my facebook profile so my friends can see my unite site.
also to stream videos is a great idea!

How about game streaming where you stream your game from one pc to another.
for example say you got a new game that requires a fast pc but are at a friends house and he has a slow pc.
thats where game streaming would come in. what do ya think:idea:

- Services clone options (For example by File Sharing will be good, because i can just one folder share, and i have to install another File Sharing service on website and it is not user friendly )

I've started to make "Speed Dial United" app.
It looks very similar to Speed Dial, you can add links to any websites and thumbnails (not finished yet), so everyone who visit your page can use your "Speed Dial United" to surf the web.

Done so far:
- simple template
- different speed dial layouts (up to 5x5)
- links storing

Things to be done:
- comments and vote system
- thumbnails loading
- speed dials for flash apps and other Opera Unite users (something like "friends" in FaceBook)

So, it will be like your personal small blog. The main idea is to keep it small (only 25 links, 25 apps and 25 friend or even less).
I'll upload preview version in a few days.

PS. I still can't find a way to choose any file on your PC through Open File dialog (i even can't use open file dialog) to copy it to app's directory.

Originally posted by karlosrocks:

a service for opera unite, like "messenger" which tell me when is one of my friends connected so I can access to their unite site.

I would vote that this request is vital to the success of this new paradigm of distributed computing.

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=280071

I know nothing about Web development in specific, but I have gathered from the news about Opera Unite how services from other companies might use it. I see something where a Twitter-like application could work on top of Google Gears, and then be constantly updated by Opera Unite.

This way, the current distribution methods of the Web would be simplified while keeping the "big players" happy. Although, like I said I have no real knowledge of the Internet in specific and could be completely wrong here... (I go off my Opera loyalty to learn new Web technology. )

my main concern with the unite service is when my computer loads my unite page into chrome, anything that i have referenced as an external file [im using .css .js and .xml] to be included, it seems to just not work...

im using mine as a portfolio for other works, a main page has a header image, a tiled background, a few links. and thats basically it.
in my root folder i have my index.htm, the folders in the root directory are a folder for the CSS styling of that page, and another folder for images
then i have an appropriately named folder for each following website, which has its own CSS and images directory.
in chrome, some of the external files are included.
in IE, it seems to work, but i dont think my CSS is particularly compliant with it.
in FF, nothing external is loaded.

*by external files i mean CSS, JS and XML

also...
It would be nice to see something like PHPBB as a service that can 'plug in' to a website with a forum link.
all the background stuff handled, then stylable by the designer. - but i've read elsewhere that dynamic server technologies wont be supported, which is fair enough.

pages dont seem to load consistantly, sometimes my home page just needs to be refreshed 2/3 time to get the intended layout to load.
unite pages tend to work best in opera, but i never liked the idea of putting up a plain page that says 'YOU MUST DOWNLOAD OPERA TO VIEW THIS PAGE!'

an Opera Unite Tasktray option. so opera doesnt need to be fully open for the service to be running! even a general minimise to tray sort of option.

my perception of the terms and conditions is taht they are aimed at benefiting end users alot more! if a developer gets the panties in a particular bunch one day and decides they dont want to share their fantastic app with anyone anymore, they are stopped, because the app should be reliably accessible for users, with the ability to be tweaked, and improved on now matter how snooty the developer is feeling

Short Read:
Opera Unite Dream is...
-Better support for non-opera browsers requesting unite pages
-Forum Service [PHPBB style?]
-Minimise Opera Unite service to system tray

@excalibur you can click with the right mouse button on the tray icon of opera, and select hide opera... then your third dream is done (at least in ubuntu)...

I like it!

Although with all these services in opera it's becoming like a OS itself - so would be nice if it could work with multi-monitors/windows without risking it only opening the wrong one without all my tabs on reload.

I've created a shortcut URL for Unite: http://ou.am
There's a redirect that's not written there like http://ou.am/132 will go to http://unite.opera.com/service/132/

Will look at the developer stuff next week and see what fun unite app I can make - have to party now unfortunately

I'm not a developer, but I'm wondering - would it be possible to implement something like the Facebook games (Like Scrabble etc) on top of unite? I'm not sure if it's actually possible to store content in that way. And moreso, can Unite allow multiple Opera users to host a service such that if there were, say 3 people using Scrabble service on Unite, and one is offline, the other players could still make a play to be synchronized when the other person re-starts Opera?

In this way, sort of like how Freenet was supposed to operate, Unite could actually become more reliable for shared services like games that maybe aren't real time...

I would like a jukebox type service (kind of like the one included) that can import playlists from other people running the service. For example if I used my files in the musicplayer, and my friend did as well, I could import his playlist and stream from his computer on my unite. This should be extended recursively (Whoever my friend imports their playlist from is now on my *to import* list). The files don't leave the user, it is just a giant colaborative playlist.

I would like to see a blog extension.

I'd like to see being able to create profiles like in Weezo and being able to use the same services in many profiles from private to open, profiles could go from all users, friends, family, work, etc. Each profile would get access to different things and have different permissions. We could see the main page with the profiles and people would have to use a profile to get access to our stuff. Seems to me it'd be easier to set it up that way than now. How do you create four different file sharing extension per exemple and remember which is which? Managing extensions and profiles was easier in Weezo: http://www.weezo.net/media/imgv.php?img=app1_f.jpg

Hi,

I have a suggestion which in my opinion should reach the core team of developers.
The whole thing of sharing should be based on certificate not on a password shared in the url. As of now any tcpdump tool can releave the password and afterwards files can be seen by anyone.

After researching I came to this tool which I can say is the best I found till now: Retroshare (it is opensource).
The way it works is great. Can opera have this done in the core?
As retroshare is opensource maybe the code can be reused or at least get ideas from it.

Till this security issue is not solved and a solution for making groups (communities) is not found, the unite module is quite hard to use for those that really care about security.

Thanks.

I saw this link and realized that my thread should be here as it is a suggestion for Opera Unite.

Here it is:

Hi, guys.


I've just sent the unique URL from my file-sharing service to a friend. I have set a password. Here's the thing - he opens it without a prompt for entering a password. I read that your files can be accessed either via unique URL OR by giving the password. Here's why this isn't such a good idea:

1) In order someone not to be able to guess your unique URL, one should choose a really long and complicated name. The form of the URL is:


http://DEVICE_NAME.USER_NAME.operaunite.com/NAME

Since DEVICE_NAME is a list of 4-5 devices it won't take hours to guess which one the user has chosen. In order to make it difficult for not authorized users to enter your stuff, you have to type for a NAME something like LsasD345JS$8UJwpj4SYDHO£Qfma$UEGHqzncv13DOAJ4, which is very user-unfriendly. Many users, who are new to internet and things like that, will probably choose something small for a name, thinking that this is enough to protect their data. Well, it's not that difficult to guess a name that consists of 4-5 letters for example.

2) Password protection - it's available only if someone goes to your profile and wants to enter your shared folders from there.


Suggestion: combine these to in order to greatly improve the privacy of the users. If you have to have the unique URL + password, it'll be a lot more difficult for someone to see your things without your permission.


Greetings,
rbaleksandar

The same goes for the photo sharing, fridge (not so necessary) and all other service that will come in the nearest future and that involve digging in the user's personal data.

Being able to customize the opera unite services

-Different skins
-drag, drop or delete for photo sharing service. (also the ability to get rid of certain parts like " others using this service" would produce a cleaner site to look at)
- the ability to view the images in photo sharing in full size without having to click "zoom" every time.

opera:config#WebServer
wow, i'm dumm, they already use rendesvouz

So far, so good...

I tried the Web Server tonite and being quite the novice I was a bit dismayed at the prospect of creating a static homepage from scratch. Sure, I could do it but I think that there should at least be a default page that can be loaded into a simple editor...

And what better page to put there then the users Unite page? The one that shows which services are running and such.
This way a user could actually edit his unite page (like many users seem to want)
Include the ability to place the list of available services anywhere in the page the user wants.

It seems as if that page is being served from the local computer anyway, so why can't it be edited?

But you can do it on your own. Every Service is packed in a us-archive, which is a simple zip-archive, just renamed (thats what i have heard) inside this archive you have all files which are used of this service, also the html and css files.

The archive home.us contains the html-files for your start page.

Unite dream: dedicated unite discovery service

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=280414&t=1245701166&page=1#comment3026335

I would find the Fridge service very useful if only it was machine independent and available offline. Or it could be added to my.opera.com/ personal pages. Because notes are usually for a user not for particular machine. It would be really great to have 24/7 access to fridge regardless of the fact if particular computer is turned on or off.

How about services like: Online Games that u can play with friends...

1) Online game of Texas Holdem poker based on Opera UNITE , (other popular games can follow)...

I think it will help promote OPERA, because friends woul download it to play...

2) A way to stream live action from mobile to your PC? - (also view security cams or webcams )
3) A calendar shareable with agenda to do and notes service...

4) A friends locator (with security) that uses GPS or phone GPS to give exact position of a group of people on a map...

and other cool services....

FreeBrain, I might be mistaken, but I think the Synchronization of Opera synchronizes your Notes too.
The forth suggestion you gave is only if someone want to implement a free GPS software (service in our case), which...Well, I don't think it'll happen soon.

I would love to see service embedding on custom websites. For example, I have a personal page which uses RSS and databases to organize all my stuff (news articles, contacts, financial stuff and so on). I also have an embedded Google Calendar, so it's pretty much all the information that I care about in one spot. Imagine having a window with an embedded music player that streams off of my Media Center, that would be totally awesome. Also another window in which i could browse my File Server would really be a nifty addition...

Summary: Unite embedding on custom web pages

What I'd like (that may be here but I am unable to access it) is a way to change the My Opera account to which Unite is linked. I installed Unite and it linked to my initial account. I then realized I'd like a different account name for a group I administer. I created the new My Opera account, then realized I can't link Unite to it as I'd hoped. This seems to me to be an obvious option, and maybe it's there, but I've been unable to find any info on it and having uninstalled and reinstalled and done everything a non-developer can think of, I guess this is just not available right now.

I'd think that there are others out there who'd like to run more than one instance of Unite, or at least change the account to which their one instance is linked. If not possible at this time, I'd LOVE to see it in the future!

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sorry for not posting it here but this is what I would like

sorry for not posting it here but this is what I would like

It's not really a dream and I'm not a developper but I don't know where to post this idea, so...

It's already possible to limit the upload speed. But for those with a small bandwith (don't worry, size doesn't matter ) if you have 10 different people and your speed is only 50 kbytes/sec, the download speed will be 5 kbytes/sec for every downloaders.
Maybe the solution would be to limit the number of connected ip. In some p2p progs, there's an option to limit the "number of upload slots", so I guess something like that could be implemented in Unite.
And when the max number of ip is reached, there would be a warning for newcomers like : "sorry, the limit of users has been reached. Please, come back later."
The number could be set in "opera:config" or in the advanced settings of Unite.

Run a chess game in Opera Unite.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm an Opera user. Here's my "dream" idea:

A computer-to-computer videochat capability. Something like Skype but pc-to-pc.

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Once upon a time, fidonet was holding the borders of the land of the internets

would be nice to have (a service?) which would make one completely autonomous - i mean - no dns-servers at all.
the on-line users are sharing lists of known ip's, only to "enter the grid" one would need the first ip, but afterwards - its "passed around". so even if pentagon would decide to shut something down to prevent alien autopsy videos from leak - the network would still work.

I'm not a developer by any means, however, I have these 2 development suggestions:
1. Is there some opera unite management section to manage or view all your different services / pc's running?
2. What would be really, really awesome would be to have a virtual desktop service that incorporated a remote desktop view of your other pc's. ie, if I'm on my home pc and I'd like to view my work pc's desktop, it could be done this way in the virtual desktop service.

Thanks again OPERA!!

There should be a function to check if anyone is connected to a service and then warn you when you are closing Opera.

A service to allow video stream from a remote cam.

the "webserver" is - at the moment - nearly useless - its web 1.0 vs. the web 2.0 age.
there has to be some kind of php or ssi or similar "server-side script language" (existing/known one - we don't have to learn) so users could make more complex applications.

the services are all moving towards file-sharing at the moment - which is really good (alone the possibility to synchronize my pc and notebook using this is great^^), but there are zero steps to the true "web-publishing" - though it was stated as part of "Unite dream"

web-publishing is a great idea, especially creating reports for several sites on your unite Home page there you could see what mailboxes had mail, recent tweets, recent facebook activity (without even going to the actual sites) , there you could choose what site to visit... need to upload some content in one of your blogs? just a few clicks and you are done, it all gets sent there!

- May use torrent technology in order to increase download speed in the case you are downloading a file that exists in more than one serve you could access.

Here in italy upload speed is about 30 KB\s.

If I have my trip's movie into the shared folder and the same movie is shred from one frind a second friend both connected could be able to download it at 60 KB\s




- Should be usefull to be able to monitor what is uploading at the momente





- I have some problem adding services but I think is only becouse I use a "beta"

My Opera Unite dream is an in-house Web Radio - and a remote control for my old stereo systems!

Technical concept:
(1)
I run multiple Opera Unite instances as Web Radio stations.
They play files from folder hierarchies in random mode (shuffle).
(2)
In the separate rooms of my house I have Web Radio receivers (streaming clients).
I can easily connect them to my old powerful stereo systems.
I can choose between my multiple Web Radio stations (classic, rock, pop, ...) or even the ones of my friends.

Usage scenarios:
(1)
Constant Web Radio, running endlessly in random mode from a server somewhere in my house.
(2)
Using a laptop like a former remote control!
In reality it contains all the music on it's hard disk.
I can select the music I want to hear right now and add it to a queue. (Technically it might be a playlist.)
That's the disruptive solution of the classic remote control problem:
Until recently remote controls had no display.
Now they started having one. But the displays are far too small and it's always dedicated and expensive hardware.
With this solution you can use your laptop or a small netbook as a "remote control" to your old beloved powerful stereo system.
Or you are surfing/working with your laptop anyway and just add to the playlist every now and then.

Wouldn't this be terrific!?