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10. November 2009, 14:20:05

helenel

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Opera Mobile 10 beta: Updated multi-language build available

Hello,
There are now updated builds available at http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/ - or http://m.opera.com/mobile/ from your mobile phone.

The multi-language build includes a font package covering a lot of Asian languages. Both builds are updated with a fix for font handling, so that devices which have the necessary system fonts can show Asian characters in the page content correctly.

Support for Asian characters in the page content will depend on device locale and available system fonts. Support for Asian characters in UI elements (e.g. history, page title, bookmarks, dropdowns, etc) is only for devices with Asian locale, using the multi-language build.

Known exceptions: Thai, Hindi (no support for Thai, Hindi characters in UI elements, but web content should be ok)

Please report any problems and feedback related to the multi-language build in this thread. Thank you for testing Opera Mobile 10 beta smile
Helene

10. November 2009, 15:23:51 (edited)

luag

Posts: 39

It works well on my Nokia E63 now smile Posting using my phone now actually. Thank you very much Opera bigsmile

Edit: I've been using OMobile for more than half an hour with only one tab open. Memory is down from around 57MB to only 26MB. Is this normal?

10. November 2009, 15:20:00

miyuru

Posts: 1070

Has the RAM issue been fixed in this release ?
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10. November 2009, 18:41:35

piroxicam

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When you say multi-language, you are referring to English-Asian or multi-language is really all languages multi-language?
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10. November 2009, 19:55:47

helenel

Posts: 102

miyuru: A full web browser will need quite a bit of memory to render complex pages, and at the same time allow smooth panning and UI transitions. In the updated builds, you should hopefully not see the OOM message that often, but improved memory usage is a bigger undertaking. We will be working hard to improve this for the next release.
Helene

10. November 2009, 20:43:01

myregs

Posts: 45

Does multi-lingual build features Cyrillic virtual keyboard?

10. November 2009, 20:50:44

piroxicam

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Posts: 259

helenel can you please explain if the multi-language is English-Asian only?
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10. November 2009, 22:33:48

SuPerFlyiN

Posts: 4

it uses less ram now.i reckon about 20mb and i have never got memory error till now.also its faster and more stabil.

i want to ask something.what is the different between v280 and 281 ?




10. November 2009, 23:09:30

Spyr0s

Posts: 28

Originally posted by SuPerFlyiN:

it uses less ram now.i reckon about 20mb and i have never got memory error till now.also its faster and more stabil.

i want to ask something.what is the different between v280 and 281 ?





280 is the english version and 281 is the one with support for phones with asian characters

11. November 2009, 01:17:25

miyuru

Posts: 1070

Geesh.. Opera Mobile seems far more RAM hoggy for me after using Firefox Mobile doh

@helenel It does give less memory errors, but instead crashes without any errors whenever it goes to low on RAM. Still there is an issue since a certain competing browser with as much standards compliance can manage RAM far more well.
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11. November 2009, 11:41:02

helenel

Posts: 102

@piroxicam:
For page content, Opera should be able to show any language as long as the device has the necessary system fonts. So that will depend on the device.

For UI elements such as page title, history items, bookmarks, drop-down boxes, etc, multi-language support means support of all the languages included in the font package described in my initial post.

This font package supports the following Unicode page encodings:

Latin-1
Latin-1 Supplement
Latin Extended-A
Latin Extended-B (Partial)
Cyrillic
Cyrillic Supplement
Greek and Coptic
CJK Symbols and Punctuation
Hiragana
Katakana
Bopomofo
Hangul Compatibity Jamp
Enclosed CJK Letters and Mopnths
CJK Compatiblity
CJK Unified Ideographs Extension A (partial)
CJK Unified Ideographs
Hangul Syllables
CJK Compatibility Ideographs
CJK Compatibility Forms
Arabic
Arabic Supplement
Arabic Presentation Forms-A
Arabic Presentation Forms-B
Hebrew
Hebrew Presentation Forms

In human languages, this means for instance (list is not exhaustive):

* Generic Latin + Scandinavian + Slavic + Turkish
* Russian, Ukrainian, etc. (Also in lowercase)
* Greek
* Chinese (Simplified and Traditional, including the Bopomofo/Mandarin phonetic system glyphs)
* Japanese
* Korean
* Arabic and Farsi
* Hebrew
Note that we currently do not support right-to-left language rendering, so for Arabic or Hebrew the characters will display, but not in the correct order or joined.

Regards,
Helene

11. November 2009, 11:41:42

helenel

Posts: 102

Regarding OOM: there is no change in the actual RAM usage in the updated build compared to the initial one. But we have the reduced the frequency of the OOM messages.
Helene

12. November 2009, 01:25:48 (edited)

kingsonye

Posts: 7

Wrong shortcuts' instruction :help shortcuts----the last but one :cycle taps left shoule be "←" not "↑". please revise it in the next version. thank you! I love opera mobile.

11. November 2009, 11:56:50

illiad

Banned user

surely a new entry for this should be made on the blog at http://my.opera.com/operamobile/blog/ ?? - just like they do at desktopteam... is there any problem with doing this??

11. November 2009, 13:14:44

luag

Posts: 39

On my Nokia E63, the exclamation marks (!) look just like the letter 'l'

11. November 2009, 13:38:40

Purdi

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Posts: 1095

Originally posted by miyuru:

Geesh.. Opera Mobile seems far more RAM hoggy for me after using Firefox Mobile doh


Wow, that's an incredibly detailed and useful problem report. I mean, who needs basic information like phones you tested, platforms, amount of RAM and other trivial details that people who are actually interested in giving useful feedback would include without having to be asked for it?

Still there is an issue since a certain competing browser with as much standards compliance can manage RAM far more well.


You have tested the S60 version of Fennec then, presumably? Or did you install Opera Mobile 10 on the N900?

Surely you aren't testing Opera on one phone, and then you are testing Fennec on a different device with what, twice the RAM and on a completely different platform? No, surely not, because that would be trolling and you surely don't engage in that kind of thing, do you? bigsmile

11. November 2009, 14:59:07

Joseph9560

Posts: 2

not sure what you guys mean by support for asian language but Nepali site/font was already working in previous version, think its update and better support.

11. November 2009, 14:59:13

piroxicam

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helenel, thank you for your detailed explanation.
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12. November 2009, 00:54:37

luag

Posts: 39

@Purdi: maybe miyuru was talking about O3.

13. November 2009, 14:23:02

abhrapro

Posts: 97

good thing,now only if nokia releases some indian fonts

13. November 2009, 15:27:34

Purdi

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Originally posted by luag:

@Purdi: maybe miyuru was talking about O3.


Quote: "after using Firefox Mobile"

14. November 2009, 02:03:40

miyuru

Posts: 1070

I mentioned a certain *competing* browser. It is Ozone. Firefox does not compete with Opera Mobile except on Windows Mobile.
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14. November 2009, 10:54:15

roohan

Posts: 9

impressive... certainly reduced the OOM.. rarely get one of those... also the shortcut to reach the top of the page"pressing the red bar" has started working in this relese!!!

17. November 2009, 10:44:38

cjoc

Posts: 5

Good morning,

I tested the new opera on my Nokia N97 and generally liked.

still has some incompatibilities to write the symbols as ".", "@", etc.. I can only write the symbols on the touch screen keyboard.

You still have one thing I still can not connect to my cell in any browser that is to logmein. I enter the page but when I click to enter the PC is the page blank.

If by chance anyone knows how to access my pc from home by logmein on nokia N97 please tell.

17. November 2009, 14:00:29

Flame2rhapsody

Posts: 1

I've download opera mobile 10,, but the prog. D0esnt work,, it said error.. Why? My device n0k 5320xm

17. November 2009, 22:43:58 (edited)

LRawlins

Operator

Posts: 70

Thanks for this OpDevs, my old Eastern import N82 is now rendering pages in English just as Opera Mini does. (Only better!) I've discovered however that I can crash Opera Mobile 10 Beta on cue. Here's how:

When entering text, the 0 key on my keypad highlights the available characters as: _0[]

Accidental selection of this final square emblem that appears to indicate a null character through in-line editing will cause Opera Mobile to vaporise before my very eyes. smile

Whilst I'm attempting to leave constructive feedback here I would like to venture that simply highlighting the 'url bar' or 'search box' should really allow for direct text entry without activation first. It seems redundant to click within it when you already have the field highlighted on a keypad based phone.

Secondly, why do we need the 'search box' at all? Borrowing from the Opera Desktop browser we should be able to add/edit engines and create shortcuts akin to its bigger brother in one combined text entry field. (eg: 'g search term')

Simply adding a 'Search' category to the 'Copy/Paste' secondary command of this (combination) url bar could forseeably trigger the engine selection list should a user wish to pick the engine by hand instead of using it's keyword. This would eliminate that double field along the top of Opera Mobile that is found awfully cramped on smaller/older screens.

I hope the availabilty of a a similarly styled 'Add Search' function through a secondary command of website text fields will appear in the final Opera Mobile 10. Again, a much loved and very simple function of its bigger brother that would aid in simple usability and navigation efficiency even more-so on the mobile platform.

Thanks for your time.

20. November 2009, 04:13:33

dgpan

Posts: 2

The OPERA popup keyboard does not support Greek. So there is no way to type in something in Greek, since it does not give the alternative to use the internal mobile phone keyboard options.
Nokia 5800 has three ways to type something and none of these is available.
Is there a workarround?

20. November 2009, 20:23:47 (edited)

LRawlins

Operator

Posts: 70

Me again. smile Below are some more observations and suggestions through continued usage of the Beta on my N82. I hope that they're found to be useful.

- [* Down] shortcut should close the browser when all other tabs are closed.

- [* Down Held] for a second to close the browser regardless of open tabs. Similarly [* Up Held] could be used to reload the active tab, and [* Left/Right Held] could be used to go back and forward within each tab. These seem like intuitive extra uses for the existing shortcut commands to me. More-so than the easily forgettable [* Digit] or [# Digit] alternatives.

- In number selection forms, the keypad on keypad mobiles should still function for tactile number entry, it seems silly for it not to.

- Opera Turbo... isn't. Possibly due to the current inability to choose image quality when compared to Mini?

- Full screen mode doesn't appear to offer anything visual for page/request activity which is quite frustrating.

- Accelerometer support would be a welcome addition.

21. November 2009, 07:02:50

gde700

Posts: 28

To dgpan
Setting - > Advansed -> Inline editing -> Off

25. November 2009, 03:51:52

dgpan

Posts: 2

Thank you so much gde700 for your help.
You were right. Though I liked Opera's pop up keyboard. I would like to see there an option for Greek.

29. November 2009, 13:20:01

kenouz1234

Posts: 4

Phone: Nokia 5730 XpressMusic (RM-465) (with full AZERTY and Arabic physical keyboard)

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_5730_xpressmusic-pictures-2743.php

http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/5730_XpressMusic/


Opera Mobile 10 beta (291)


Problems:

- my phone support writing in English/French/Arabic languages, but in Opera Mobile 10 I can not change writing language when searching with google for example (in opera mini 4.2 I can write in different languages).

- the "Sym" key of physical keyboard don't work and the shortcut "↑ + Sym" dont work for changinge the input language.


3. December 2009, 20:06:01

Sld19

Posts: 1

Same issue for me with English/Russian/Hebrew languages on Nokia E52
Is this the issue, or Opera mobile supports English input charset only?

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