google search not working

google search not working

i was using google search in 7.20 beta 10 and it is not showing the sites automatically as in beta 9. it is not self completing as you are typing your search topics in. am i doing something wrong. thanks.

I have the same problem.

Same here. 98SE, beta10

Haavard or anyone care to comment?

It's disabled in beta 10

Is this nice feature getting scraped for good?

We need OK from google before a final.

It means we are *really* close to a final...

Yes.. we're all starting to get fed up with betas, aren't we?

As long as you guys keep fixing stuff, not me...

But you can't release a final yet - not everyone's pet bugs have been fixed!

Heh, seriously though, 7.20's gonna kick ass!

Hmmm shat's wrong with new beta versions coming out ??!! Don't we all want a SUPERB bug free 7.20 final version ?? I would rather wait for ten more beta versions before a truely legend called Opera 7.20 comes out . Surely I understand all bugs can never be fixed, afterall software development is a never ending process, but still as few as bugs as possible . So I will rather wait till the great grand 7.20 final version comes out, which undoubtedly will be the best version till date !! Beta stuffs, no problems . But the final version should be an awsome version .

Re: google search not working

Originally posted by howdbill
i was using google search in 7.20 beta 10 and it is not showing the sites automatically as in beta 9. it is not self completing as you are typing your search topics in. am i doing something wrong. thanks.

I can do it? I type words in the search field in the toolbar, and it show the website as beta9. Does I misunderstand something?

Re: Re: google search not working

Originally posted by fantast_xue
I can do it? I type words in the search field in the toolbar, and it show the website as beta9. Does I misunderstand something?

Is that after you press [Enter], right...?

In beta9 (and before), you could just type words in the Google search field, not press [Enter], wait a couple of seconds.....and a drop-down list of search results would pop up!

Thank you, RichTF. I didn't know that feature before.

Is there anyway to turn it back on? Or what would have to be copied over from beta 9 to make it work?

Originally posted by Trond
We need OK from google before a final.

It was a nice feature..

Well, if Google give the okay, then presumably it will return in the final...?

Gimme feature back plz... dont tell google, we wont either, we promise.

and yes, Beta's suck, we dont like them


so when is beta 7.3 coming out ?

-Znore

I love betas.
Google is becomming so Mirosoftish.

Originally posted by Znore
so when is beta 7.3 coming out ?

After 7.2 final...

Jeez, 7.20b12 and this still hasn't been fixed. How much longer will I have to stick with b9?

The feature has been removed.

Originally posted by haavard
The feature has been removed.

:'(

:'(

*goes to install beta9*

What, permanently? It won't be back in the final 7.20? I can't believe Opera would pull this on us, to give such an amazing feature and then yank it back. This disappoints me greatly.. I wonder if a Firebird addon is possible..

Maybe this should be made a sticky...

Opera had to remove this feature because Google does not allow it. Opera has no choice in this matter. This has been posted on this forum in many threads already.

By the way, how could Google possibly forbid this, and better yet, why? It would make sense that we're not seeing their ads this way, but Google's own API was designed precisely for stuff like this, and it allows (encourages, even) circumvention of the ads, too. Plus, this concept of grabbing essential data off sites while chopping off extra material is nothing new; Google's News service does it, as do countless other programs including Apple's Sherlock 3.

Opera - if you're going to remove the feature permanently, could you at least give us a decent reason for it? "Google didn't approve it" just doesn't cut it, given the points I made above.

Maybe you should ask the question to Google. As far as Opera is concerned, if Google doesn't allow it there is nothing they can do, regardless of how you feel about it or howmuchever valid your points may be.

Originally posted by neeraj_deshmukh
Maybe you should ask the question to Google. As far as Opera is concerned, if Google doesn't allow it there is nothing they can do, regardless of how you feel about it or howmuchever valid your points may be.

So if Microsoft told Opera that they shouldn't be making a web browser because it competes with IE, would Opera blindly obey that order, too? The real question is not whether somebody is forbidding them from doing it, but whether that person has the right to make such a decision. Google made their service accessible on a free and open protocol, and in doing so they will need to accept that it could be accessed from something other than a typical ad-displaying web browser. But even that is beside the point, which is that Google encourages programmers to take advantage of it's API (see googlefight for a prime example of this), and can't take that right away on a program-by-program basis. Either everyone can do it, or nobody can.

Besides, even if there was some dumb law in the U.S. that would give Google the right to make this decision, Opera isn't a U.S. company and doesn't have to adhere to U.S. laws any more than U.S. citizens would have to adhere to, say, Iraqi laws.

Originally posted by FlightSimGuy
By the way, how could Google possibly forbid this, and better yet, why? It would make sense that we're not seeing their ads this way, but Google's own API was designed precisely for stuff like this, and it allows (encourages, even) circumvention of the ads, too. Plus, this concept of grabbing essential data off sites while chopping off extra material is nothing new; Google's News service does it, as do countless other programs including Apple's Sherlock 3.

Actually I agree in part with these sentiments. If Google provides APIs that allow for convenient searching that bypasses the need to use the site conventionally, it is then laughable to disallow it. If they want to disallow it, simple: remove the APIs. The only explanation I can think of is that Opera has stumbled on some hidden APIs that were never intended for public consumption; still google have no right to say "thou shalt not", they should simply remove them. You cannot disallow a publicly accessible mechanism of communicating with a server, that's nonsense - it's like having an FTP server allowing anonymous access and then telling users they are not to access it anonymously! What if I were to warn Opera that anyone using it to browse my website would be in breach of my T&C's?

Seb

There is no hidden API, the normal html page is simply parsed. (Which also means that if Google changed their page too much, it wouldn' work anymore)

Anyway, the point is that Google is our partner. You don't screw your partner. We need OK from Google before the feature can be included in a final product.

Originally posted by Trond
Anyway, the point is that Google is our partner. You don't screw your partner. We need OK from Google before the feature can be included in a final product.

Oh, right, I had totally forgotten about the new google ads in the beta.. now everything makes perfect sense. I'm sorry for my earlier criticism.

FlightSimGuy's faith in Opera is fully restored. Hope you can get their permission for the final.

You don't screw your partner.

[Insert joke here].

Hmmm, i see, maybe i was to quick with posting that poll for re-implementing the feature again.
It's true that you shouldn't screw your partner.
Google is probably a valueble partner for Opera, not only bring they in money, but by supporting/partnering with Opera they show that they think this is a good product.(Google wouldn't want to be associated with a product that is not worthy)
Google is a mighty ally.

If re-implementing this feature would hurt Opera in any way, than i guess it's fair to say we as users should be able to live without it.

One thing though, how is the Opera company actually doing?
Are they financially healthy?
Are things going well for Opera?
Should there be any worries?

Everything is fine

A little bit off-topic, but if partners aren't supposed to screw each other, how come Macromedia, which is your partner, does not have its site "Opera compatible"?

Here's a head's up to the Opera people as well as everyone else...

The Google Search isn't totally gone. While the search box doesn't work, you can still search google by using the address bar -- you've been able to in every one of the betas so far, that I'm aware of. You just go to the address bar and put "g [search phrase]" and hit enter, and voila, instant google search.

Unfortunately, pointing this out may have Opera nullify the feature until they get the Okay from Google, but at least people know it's out there and can stick on beta 12 for a while if need be. :/

The normal Google search is still there, and will stay there. It is just the quick Google search feature with a dropdown with the first 10 results in the Google search field which is gone.

Isn't it time to recover this feature, which already implemented in Firefox 2.0 year ago?
Again, Opera was first (Opera 7.20 beta 1), but failed...
Firefox using suggestions instead of real search results, so Opera now can do the same.

Firefox can suggest via Google, Yahoo and Ask.