Opera 7.20 beta 11 for windows w/Google "Rads"

Opera 7.20 beta 11 for windows w/Google "Rads"

Here: (build 3118)
[url]http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/ow32enen720b11.exe


Most visible change:

- Unregistered users have the choice between two types of ads:

1. Normal generic ads, like before
2. Text-ads from Google that are relevant to the currently visited page

If you choose the new format you will get text-based ads from Google that are relevant to the content of the page you visit. The currently visited page URL is used for finding the best ad and corresponding related searches. Google and Opera are committed to protecting the privacy of our users, and more information about the system (and the measures we take to protect you) can be found at:

[url]http://www.opera.com/adsupport/

Please surf around a bit with the new Google ads and see if you like them more than the old ones! They also take up less space on smaller screens


Other changes since beta 10:

Display:
- Fixed CSS first-letter problem
- Another fix for ideographic space
- position:relative causes float to not move line boxes
- getComputedStyle: Height/width and inherit fixes
- getComputedStyle: vertical-align property fixes
- CSS: first-letter fix
- Q and A fix for links in XML
- Made JavaScript triggered popup windows with IMG content work
- Fixed charset detection for generated content
- Fix for not returning inherit as a border-style value in gCS
- Embed was not represented by HTML element. Embed with liveconnect now works as applet and object

.. and a number of smaller fixes


Handheld/SSR:
- WML anchors now navigable again
- Setting correct LayoutMode when switching from SSR to handheld. Also switch to handheld for WML documents

JavaScript:
- Added option for allowing script to receive right clicks.. defaults to off
- Wait for currently executing inline scripts to finish before actually stopping when window.stop() is called
- Don't trigger ONMOUSEOVER events when re-highlighting current element

Other:
- Turning off support for Content-Disposition: Attachment until it has been more tested and tuned to do the correct thing in every case
- Turn off q-value when only a single accept-language is available. Some servers had problems with it
- Let fastforward send referrer correctly
- Fixed a problem with importing XML bookmarks

Transfer/Progress:
- Autoselect new transfer if list doesn't have focus and current selected is not in progress

Page loading:
- Fixed a namelookup problem if there was too many IP addresses registered for a site. DNS lookup was cancelled and loading failed

UI:
- Fix for Shift-X fetching new page
- Added horizontal panning support
- Fix slow typing into forms while loading etc.
- Ensure that both views in the bookmark panel is sorted in same order
- Fix for bug "No filename check in save session"
- Let popup progress appear inside any scrollbars
- Added middle click configurability dialog... will show first time middle click is used

Thanks
*goes to install

WOO!! I like betas.

wow...betabetabetabeta

Anyway...the Dropdownmenus on [url]http://www.blizzard.com are still distorted(you can see the borders). Looked ok pre 7.2beta3.
The dropdownmenus on [url]http://www.skandiabanken.no dont work properly(you cant extend the menus). Worked in the lates Opera 6 versions and in the first Opera 7 versions.

Excellent!!!

Looks like RichTF and michmaj will be happy

Not sure what "Let popup progress appear inside any scrollbars" means though...

Great. The Final will come in big boots

Originally posted by Ian

Looks like RichTF and michmaj will be happy

ZIP Files are still broken, so I doubt it.

Hi folks!

I can't start the 'online banking transaction' under the following url: [url]http://www.kreissparkasse-westerwald.de/index-ww.html

Any bug in the java-interface of 7.20 beta?


Netview

For those registered users wanting to test google ads - move (don't delete) the file OUsr600.dat somewhere ouside the Opera 7 program directory.

GENERAL: REALLY great idea, I find google ads often useful (relevant to the specified search), whether they are well targetted to specific pages remains to be seen. But they have to be better than the current banner-type adverts.

Olli Said: They also take up less space on smaller screens

The current box takes up the same space as the banner as far as I can see, is that a bug then?

Added horizontal panning support

Finally!!!!

Let popup progress appear inside any scrollbars

What was meant (I think) is that it jumps immediately ABOVE the scrollbar if needed ...

And they fixed the anchor bug

sweet ass

- Fix slow typing into forms while loading etc.

Yess!

Originally posted by non-troppo
Let popup progress appear inside any scrollbars

What was meant (I think) is that it jumps immediately ABOVE the scrollbar if needed ...

Yes, thanks for that. I normally have my progress bar inside the address bar, but I just tried it and it works as you explained.

Now that I've got you here, non-troppo, and that we are talking about horizontal panning, any possibility of enabling horizontal scrolling with Synaptics touchpads?
They can only scroll vertically with the tweak in your wiki.

And I know the devs were playing with automating Synaptics ini files modification during install in the betas.

Re: Opera 7.20 beta 11 for windows w/Google "Rads"

What, no dishwasher yet? Mozilla has had the kitchen sink for ages now, Opera must beat that..

Originally posted by olli
- Added option for allowing script to receive right clicks.. defaults to off

BTW, is there any way to turn ads on once you have registered? (I never thought I would ask that.. )

Edit: Never mind, I just saw non-troppo's post.. (That was fast, thanks! )

No! No good!
Once more beta?
When it's will be final w/o general bugs?

Another question...

When I installed beta 11, I was given a choice of skins. There was the standard skin, plus two windows skins: classic windows and windows skin.

What's the difference between the two windows skins?

One windows skin is your own which you modified. The other one (above) was default I suppose.

"Added option for allowing script to receive right clicks.. defaults to off"

YAY YAY YAY !!! LOL



Holy crap, beta 11 .. was there ever so many beta's for any other opera versions? LOL


Keep up the good work, really looking forward to the final of this release.

Originally posted by Ian
Another question...

When I installed beta 11, I was given a choice of skins. There was the standard skin, plus two windows skins: classic windows and windows skin.

What's the difference between the two windows skins?

The first windows skin was a normal windows skin and the second was a modified windows skinned that you were using so far?
Just guessing but that's the choice I got:
- standard skin
- windows skin
- windows mod skin

"Windows mod" is what I currently use. It's a windows skin with added icons for notepad, irfanview, ie and moz. I got a standard mod and some other mods too, but apparently Opera gives a choice of: standard, windows and the one u were using.

Edit: d.i.z. was faster.

I think that it looks for the skin you have, since it also gave me the cocoa option (the one I use).

Originally posted by non-troppo

Let popup progress appear inside any scrollbars

What was meant (I think) is that it jumps immediately ABOVE the scrollbar if needed ...

But isn't the progress bar (no matter if there is a horizontal scrollbar or not) one or two pixels higher (thicker) because of that?

Originally posted by michmaj
But isn't the progress bar (no matter if there is a horizontal scrollbar or not) one or two pixels higher because of that?

Not for me. It's perfectly aligned with bottom border of opera window.

miałeś na myśli wyżej czy wyższy?

Originally posted by Ian
Excellent!!!

Looks like RichTF and michmaj will be happy

OH. It seems that clicking [url]http://miranda-im.org/download/feed.php?dlfile=847 does launch my flashget automatically

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
No! No good!
Once more beta?
When it's will be final w/o general bugs?

Uhm.. when they fix all the bugs? That's what beta testing is for.. You are not required to participate.

Regression!!!

Originally posted by Skvate
wow...betabetabetabeta
The dropdownmenus on [url]http://www.skandiabanken.no dont work properly(you cant extend the menus). Worked in the lates Opera 6 versions and in the first Opera 7 versions.

I confirm it. It worked in beta10! This must be fixed before the final - Skandiabanken is my "killer-app"...

Is there some sort of program to make skins in Opera? I like the default skin, except that the fields for just about everything are too thick for my taste. But I'm not good at making skins in general, unless it's a fairly automated task.

This is build 3118, for the interested. So far so good. I've got the Rads on, and they're... interesting, at least. /puts in his reg code.

They'll make my girlfriend happy. Down in AU, there's some sort of flashing ad that she can't stand, lol.

Originally posted by d.i.z.
Not for me. It's perfectly aligned with bottom border of opera window.

miałeś na myśli wyżej czy wyższy?

Stupid English language where one word means 2 different things even though they have 500,000 words. I meant bigger in height. Thicker.
I ment it's height is bigger. But let me see. Yep.
See it's 2 pixels higher (thicker). Beta 11 is on the left in the attachment.

Originally posted by non-troppo
Olli Said: They also take up less space on smaller screens

The current box takes up the same space as the banner as far as I can see, is that a bug then?

Yepp, GoogleAd is the same size as StandardAd, but the space is well-used, so I do not complain. Especially if you have status bar located at "Top", so it is placed just below the buttons.

GoogleAd is simply great - I've already used the links 3 or 4 times during the 10 minutes I have been testing b11. StandardAd tempted me very seldom...

Yes they did ... and quickly too.

Thank you so much ... my faith is once again renewed!

Originally posted by Ian
And they fixed the anchor bug

Originally posted by michmaj
Stupid English language where one word means 2 different things even though they have 500,000 words. I meant bigger in height. Thicker.
I ment it's height is bigger. But let me see. Yep.
See it's 2 pixels higher (thicker). Beta 11 is on the left in the attachment.

I see, I have it skinned so I didn't even noticed it.

bug-125947 fixed too
[url]https://bugs.opera.com/show_bug.cgi?id=125998 not fixed but it's cosmetic so I don't mind.

xEik: I don't have a laptop anymore, so don't know what the latest support is like for synaptics touchpads, sorry

Google Ads: So far great[1]!!! There is also a list of related searches to page you're on - really nice, like a 'related links' search built-in. This actually provides functionality for non-registered users, neat!

Interestingly, when going to home pages of large companies like Microsoft or Sun, the google ads completely disappear! I suppose Google has contracts with these Corporations to stop 'alternatives' appearing in the related searches.

Sadly, going to the IE homepage doesn't bring up any ads for Opera !!!! Now that would be interesting, and only doing what MS's smarttags attempted to do...

[1]Wish: Registered users can remove the Ad's, but optionally keep the related searches box, additionally with a Pagerank for the current page, kinda like a little google info page for every page visited!!!

For the curious, here is the googlead header information sent when I went to www.altap.cz:

+++GET 1414+++
GET /pagead/ads?alternate_ad_url=opera:defaultbanner&oe=utf-8&client=ca-opera_468x60&format=468x60&channel=720+en&url=http%3A//www.altap.cz/ HTTP/1.1
User-Agent: Opera/7.20 (Windows NT 5.0; U) [en]
Host: pagead-us.googlesyndication.com
Accept: text/html, application/xml;q=0.9, application/xhtml+xml;q=0.9, image/png, image/jpeg, image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, */*;q=0.1
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.8,*;q=0.7
Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip, x-gzip, identity, *;q=0
TE: deflate, gzip, chunked, identity, trailers
Connection: keep-alive

+++RESP 1414+++
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 19:46:12 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Server: CAFE/1.0
Content-length: 4187
+++CLOSE 1414+++

So basically, only after the page is loaded, one GET request is made, and around 4000 bytes of information is returned.

The question is, if loading lots of tabs simultaneously, does Opera only make One request based on the last loaded window or what?

Answer: When loaded in the background, Opera doesn't even contact the adserver at all, nice as it minimises any performance impact of this system when loading several pages.

- Added middle click configurability dialog... will show first time middle click is used , but can i configure it in the perferences ...


"Shift-Middle click"

have .... to ... read .... first ....

Originally posted by non-troppo
Wish: Registered users can remove the Ad's, but optionally keep the related searches box, additionally with a Pagerank for the current page, kinda like a little google info page for every page visited!!!

Great idea non-troppo!

Originally posted by Geezer
- Added middle click configurability dialog... will show first time middle click is used , but can i configure it in the perferences ...

Shit+Middle-click will bring the dialog up again.

Originally posted by non-troppo
For the curious, here is the googlead header information sent when I went to www.altap.cz:

<snip>

So basically, only after the page is loaded, one GET request is made, and around 4000 bytes of information is returned.

The question is, if loading lots of tabs simultaneously, does Opera only make One request based on the last loaded window or what?

Answer: When loaded in the background, Opera doesn't even contact the adserver at all, nice as it minimises any performance impact of this system when loading several pages.

Good find.

Originally posted by non-troppo
For the curious, here is the googlead header information sent when I went to www.altap.cz:

..

So basically, only after the page is loaded, one GET request is made, and around 4000 bytes of information is returned.

The question is, if loading lots of tabs simultaneously, does Opera only make One request based on the last loaded window or what?

Answer: When loaded in the background, Opera doesn't even contact the adserver at all, nice as it minimises any performance impact of this system when loading several pages.

That's correct. Only a page that finishes loading in the foreground asks for the Google ad. If you really want to see the ads for a background-loaded page, you have to reload it

Re: Opera 7.20 beta 11 for windows w/Google "Rads"

Originally posted by olli

- Made JavaScript triggered popup windows with IMG content work

Not quite.
Visit: [url]http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/fototemat.html?gid=26421 and click any of the images. The progress bar still remains there, doesn't it?

Hmmmmm, seems like they've now activated their 'Automatic Update' mechanism, BUT it sent me to download V7.11!!!! Are they trying to tell me not to beta test anymore or what!!! Bug perhaps?

Update: only seems to appear after a crash for me.

Let popup progress appear inside any scrollbars

What was meant (I think) is that it jumps immediately ABOVE the scrollbar if needed ...

...and to the left of the vertical scrollbar (see attachment).

Is it just me, or does wheel mouse scrolling doesn't work in OperaShow mode? I was viewing Mark's M2 tutorial and there was a page there was a vertical scrollbar, however I wasn't able to scroll...

"- Fixed a namelookup problem if there was too many IP addresses registered for a site. DNS lookup was cancelled and loading failed"

Think I experienced that before .. if that means the name completion

Puuuuh. You guys just rule... Really! Will install it now.
Can't wait to use horizontal panning!!!

Re: Opera 7.20 beta 11 for windows w/Google "Rads"

Originally posted by olli
JavaScript:
- Added option for allowing script to receive right clicks.. defaults to off

Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, thankyou!

:'( :'( :'( :'(

Reinstalled beta10 back again over beta 11, but Skandiabanken won't work any more! What am I to do? IE? Clean reinstall?!

Thnx opera team for the new improved beta....
BTW
Opera still freezes when you push full screen button or press F11 on [url]http://www.avantbrowser.com/

In windows 2000 sp4 CPU goes at 100% please confirm for other windows versions.....
already reported from beta 9.

Automatic Update?

Originally posted by non-troppo
Hmmmmm, seems like they've now activated their 'Automatic Update' mechanism, BUT it sent me to download V7.11!!!! Are they trying to tell me not to beta test anymore or what!!! Bug perhaps?

Update: only seems to appear after a crash for me.

Where is this "feature"? Where is the "Automatic Update". . . . what do you mean, where can I see it in Opera? (beta 11)

Originally posted by quirky9
Thnx opera team for the new improved beta....
BTW
Opera still freezes when you push full screen button or press F11 on [url]http://www.avantbrowser.com/

In windows 2000 sp4 CPU goes at 100% please confirm for other windows versions.....
already reported from beta 9.

ya i confirm this and the only option to exit is to close OPERA

Re: Opera 7.20 beta 11 for windows w/Google "Rads"

I'm a bit confused. Can someone please explain this to me?

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Re: Opera 7.20 beta 11 for windows w/Google "Rads"
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Does this refer to the search field to the right of the address bar? . . . because in my Beta 11, the google search index doex not populate when I type, (as beta 9 did). I must misunderstand. Can someone please clarify for me?