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Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:05:59

Junyor

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Opera 7.50 Preview 1 for Windows available

Happy Holidays! :smile:

Opera 7.50 Preview 1 for Windows is available for download. As usual, discuss the new version in opera.beta and in the my.opera.com Beta Testing forum. Please do not distribute the download link directly, but link to the post in opera.beta or in the my.opera.com Beta Testing forum.

Due to the experimental nature of this release, upgrading a previous Opera installation is not recommended.

This release includes experimental changes to M2. If you would like to test this new functionality with your current Mail from a previous installation of Opera, close Opera and COPY the Mail directory from your old installation to this install. Because this is a redesign, problems should be expected and users are encouraged to make frequent backups of their mail and/or set M2 to leave your messages on the mail server (Incoming tab of mail account settings). Data loss is a very real possibility.

Download Preview 1:

[url]http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o750tp1_3494.exe (build 3494)

=== Major new features ===
* User interface redesign *
This release includes a prototype design of Opera's user interface, which has been revamped to make it cleaner and more intuitive. The ad banner has been reformatted into an ad bar at the top of the Opera window. The main menus have been restructured so they aren't as cluttered. There's a new "Tools" menu for items such as managing cookies, contacts, and Wand. All toolbar customizations are now done through the Customize toolbars dialog. The main and personal bars have been turned off and the most used web page buttons have been moved to the address bar. Any toolbar can be set to "Show only when needed" (most useful for the Navigation and Page bars).

* Panels improved *
As part of the user interface improvements, Opera's panels are now more functional. The Hotlist has been renamed to Panels. The panel selector now defaults to the left and is always visible. Clicking panel names or pressing F4 toggles the display of Panels (ESC closes Panels). Panels can be maximized using Shift+F4, by clicking the maximize icon, or by double clicking on the panel selector. Maximized panels act as replacements for management dialogs used for things like contacts and bookmarks. All panels have toolbars and a panel selecting button at the top. Custom panels have toolbars to allow Reload (F5), zooming, and SSR display of panels. Also, the "X" to close Panels is back.

* Start panel *
One of the user interface prototypes in this release is the Start panel, a portal to Opera and the web. Accessible from the Panel selector, the Start panel is always maximized and allows you to easily go to a web site, search the Internet, or search your e-mail. This is only a taste of things to come!

* Reintroducing M2 *
The M2 back-end has been completely redesigned to make searching faster and to meet various user needs. Searches of hundreds of thousands of messages should take ~1 second. Additionally, the Start search box now has a drop-down of every word in every message, so it auto-completes as you're typing. Each account will have its own directory with one mbox file per month. The Mail directory will also include a lexicon, which indexes every word in every e-mail.

* RSS Newsfeeds *
Opera now has experimental support for RSS Newsfeeds (RSS 0.9x, 1.0, and 2.0)--a syndication format often used on weblogs and news services--as part of Opera Mail. You can choose from a selection of pre-installed feeds by choosing "Newsfeeds" from the Mail menu. Newsfeeds are shown in the Mail panel under the Newfeeds access point. Please have a look at [url]http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss/ for more information about RSS.

* Opera Chat *
Opera now has experimental support for IRC, our first protocol back-end for Chat. You can easily setup a chat account Chat menu by selecting "New account". Chat channel and server information is shown in the Chat panel. Additionally, you can use Chat > List rooms (Ctrl+Alt+J) to list available channels once you've connected to a server. To aid in testing and to give y'all a place to hang out, we've setup our own IRC network: OperaNet. There are currently two servers: irc.opera.com and irc.se.opera.com.

* Spelling checker *
Opera now has the ability to work seemlessly with external spelling checkers, such as Aspell ([url]http://aspell.net/). The Windows installer and quite a few dictionaries are available at [url]http://aspell.net/win32/ (you need to download both the installer and at least one dictionary for Aspell to work). The spelling checker works in Opera Mail compose windows and multi-line form inputs. After installing Aspell, just restart Opera and it should be detected automatically. Aspell is free and open source. Opera will define a public API (based on unicode/utf-8) and will release source code for an example implementation hooking up to Aspell, so other spelling checkers can eventually work with Opera.

* Learning message filter *
Opera Mail sports a new learning message filter. Enabled on the Filter tab of View properties, the Learning filter works for the Spam view and custom views. To teach the learning filter which mails you'd like in a particular view, simply drag some mails to the view. While teaching the filter, it's likely that it will incorrectly put certain mails into the filtered view. If this occurs, simply select the mails and use Ctrl+X or choose Delete>Remove from view from the Message window toolbar to remove them from a custom view or click the Not spam button in the Spam view. Remember, this learning filter doesn't apply to only spam--it can be used with any custom view!

* Override Browser Stylesheet *
It's now possible to override the default browser CSS stylesheet. Simply put a file called 'browser.css' in the directory \profile\styles\ (you may need to create that directory) with the rules you'd like to use. This has several advantages over using a user.css file. For instance, if you always want PRE elements to be wrapped, add the rule 'PRE { white-space: pre-wrap; }'. The browser.css file overrides the default browser CSS stylesheet and is overridden by author and user stylesheets.

=== Important Changes ===

== User Interface ==
* Native skins on Windows XP will now adhere to chosen XP theme
* Made "Windows Native" the default skin while we await the new default skin
* Added proper Bookmark separators (accessible via the right-click menu in the Manage bookmarks dialog or Bookmarks panel). Notes can also have separators (accessible via the right-click menu in the Notes panel)

== Opera Mail (M2) ==
* If a message contains characters not allowed in your outgoing encoding, a dialog will appear when the message is auto-saved to Drafts
* Quick find in Message windows now also searches message bodies
* Quick find and Search now support multi-word searches (separate words with spaces)
* Mail import now allows you to specify an account in the import messages dialog. This makes it easy to import mail to an account so that it will correctly show with the account selector
* You can now disable columns in the Message list window by right-clicking the column header and unchecking it
* Added option for showing message body on right side (from the View button in a message window, choose Display > Message list and body on right)

== Display ==
* Added support for SCRIPTs (minus document.write and friends) in XML documents
* Fixed a bug where padding and border were included in the height of replaced content (i.e. causing squished images)
* Fixed a problem where OBJECT didn't show alternate content
* Fixed a long-standing issue where table cell width was affected by white space
* Fixed a problem preventing the correct display of HTML entities in XML documents

== Keyboard/Mouse ==
* Made it possible to scroll CSS 'overflow' content using the keyboard or mousewheel
* Ctrl+click will now open Save image as dialog if performed on an image
* Added 'i' as shortcut for toggling mail split view / max view modes

== Other ==
* Added ability to edit individual cookies in the Manage cookies dialog
* Fixed several crashes related to Print preview
* Include latest Flash plugin, v7.0.19.0
* Updated help files for 7.50

For a detailed list of other changes, please visit [url]http://people.opera.com/tim/changelogs/w750p1.html#detail.

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:06:48

akh

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FINALLY!!! :happy: Thanks!

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:08:25

:wizard: :cheers:
So tired of all the refreshing... :D

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:10:09

dan1el

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GET THE HEART STARTER NOW

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:10:16

closet geek

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it's soooo different!!!!

cg

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:11:49

olli

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Hehe didn't take people long time :-)

Enjoy guys :-)

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:12:13

jonspencerbx

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oh my god, oh my god,oh my god, oh my god,oh my god, oh my god,oh my god, oh my god,oh my god, oh my god,oh my god, oh my god,oh my god, oh my god,oh my god, oh my god.

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:15:00

bsr

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YES, another fun and rewarding beta session :smile: just in time for holidays.

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:16:39

wwwwwwooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:19:39

closet geek

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:bomb:

should have read the blurb - lost all my bookmarks :cry: ............ :o:

cg

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:23:58

t-rex

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Yes!!!!!!! Finaly!!!!!!

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:26:52

still wrong selection of text from top left corner to bottom right in [url]http://miranda-icq.sourceforge.net/rich/ :frown:

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:34:11

bsr

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ahhh it installed into its own folder (opera75) ... And since the interface is different does that mean that we have to wait for skins to become available? (I miss my fav. skin) and I had to import my bookmarks since its fresh install in different folder.

And does this new version need to be bought again?

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:35:54

and still can't refresh page, which sented parameters by form with 'method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data"'...

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:38:45

Junyor

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@bsr: Skins should still work, but there might be some stuff that isn't skinned (until the skins are updated). This is a free upgrade for those that have purchased Opera 7.x.

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:40:09

[url]http://www.livejournal.com/ now some strange :smile: previous version's shown better :smile:

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:50:30

Squirt

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Doh, this version still shows underlines under text while other programs (including Opera 6) do not.

I've also noticed 7.5 takes less resources and slightly less ram. Good stuff.

Using win98se.

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:51:22

qviri

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Am I the only one that can't log into the forums -- or access any my.opera.com pages -- using 7.5?

edit: other pages work fine.

Friday, 19. December 2003, 19:56:39

jonspencerbx

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You're not alone! I cannot log in either.

Friday, 19. December 2003, 20:02:31

Junyor

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@SailorMax: It's their fault. Try changing the skin you use at that page.

Friday, 19. December 2003, 20:02:47

qviri

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you people don't seem to realize we'll never speak of the Hotlist again!



That would be sad :frown:

Let's hope Opera find a way to save Hotlist. It's a symbol, people!

Friday, 19. December 2003, 20:06:43

qviri

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Okay, I just got the first crash. I think it was caused when, during reindexing, it obeyed the account setting and checked the mail automatically. You guys may wanna look into this.

Friday, 19. December 2003, 20:08:54

vangrieg

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http://www.livejournal.com/ now some strange

Unfortunately, it's not a bug, but a feature, so it's not likely to be fixed. This may be not the only site broken because of improved CSS support. All we can do is hope that this improvement goes away just like ignoring table height did. :smile:

Friday, 19. December 2003, 20:08:54

scipio

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i feel like i've downloaded a totally new browser. where is everything? i should download my skin to see something familiar in this UI! :insane:

Friday, 19. December 2003, 20:10:30

vangrieg

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scipio

There are a lot of cool new things here now. Have some patience and check them out. :wink:

Friday, 19. December 2003, 20:17:12

Originally posted by Junyor
@SailorMax: It's their fault. Try changing the skin you use at that page.



what skin?
at [url]http://endymionr.livejournal.com/ too?

Friday, 19. December 2003, 20:30:41

qviri

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About reindexing -- you might wanna improve the counter (done/out of). It told me I had 114609 whatever, and I have no idea what this is. I don't have 114609 messages, and if it was the size, please list the units...

Also, after reindexing, it looks like my mail is actually bigger than it used to be! However, contents of previous three folders -- cache, storage and index -- seem unchanged, maybe it was supposed to delete them after the reindexing?

Friday, 19. December 2003, 20:31:03

I notice talk of hotlist --with my old skin Hotlist just shows as words with no icon on toolbar---
Take it this is meant to be?
Please explain :smile:

Friday, 19. December 2003, 20:34:06

haavard

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Cache, storage and index are left alone. 7.50 uses other directories for storage and various things.

Friday, 19. December 2003, 20:38:36

qviri

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So I could delete them if I made a copy of the folder previously?

Friday, 19. December 2003, 20:45:22

1) if close all pages, can't show hotlist. button "hotlist" deactivated.
but if opera start without pages, hotlist is on all screen. button "hotlist" still deactivated.
2) look at attach. bug from first betas of opera 7.xx :smile:
(if page bar at bottom, skins of buttons from if page bar at top)
On first start of opera after install all was fine, but now??? check it.

untitled-1.png

Friday, 19. December 2003, 20:52:11

My mistake---I transferred my profile folder over without thinking and the old skins etc altered the whole new look back to old
Just done a new Beta install and will figure it out b4 reloading skins etc
:smile:

Friday, 19. December 2003, 21:01:59

kohoutec

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Huzzah!

:hat: :cheers:

Friday, 19. December 2003, 21:03:03

haavard

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qviri, yeah, try deleting them and see what happens (probably nothing) :wink:

Friday, 19. December 2003, 21:29:44

borg

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qviri, 114609 means that you have had a total of 114609 messages through your system at some point. Every message has a unique ID, and your messages are spread from 1 to 114609. This number includes news postings even if body was never downloaded as well as deleted messages.

Friday, 19. December 2003, 21:34:36

Also getting the same login problems have had for past week
Sometimes it helps to bypass Proxomitron --sometimes it doesnt :smile:

[url]http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=398392#post398392

Friday, 19. December 2003, 21:49:22

hpearce

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Can I delete all those empty mail account folders ?

Why is there no quick way to disable the panel like there was for the hotlist ?


I must have had 80 messages with no message body that suddenly appeared. No doubt for all those generic store errors I had. (I deleted them.)

Friday, 19. December 2003, 21:57:30

qviri

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You can right click it and choose Position: off...

Friday, 19. December 2003, 22:05:39

DaySleeper

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if opera has somthing to spell check it seems to crash, I get a lovely spell check complete if there is nothing for it to check

Friday, 19. December 2003, 22:37:27

Originally posted by wolfprince79
I notice talk of hotlist --with my old skin Hotlist just shows as words with no icon on toolbar---
Take it this is meant to be?
Please explain :smile:



I had the same problem because I installed in the same folder as previous beta (even though I deleted all files). I then reinstalled in a brand new folder and this problem (and several others) went away. Apparently hotlist no longer exists in this release and is replaced by "panels".

Friday, 19. December 2003, 22:44:48

andewid

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Hm. When it comes to spam you should use SpamAssassin. It is free and widely used and works 99% from start without any special user settings.

Friday, 19. December 2003, 22:51:09

haavard

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No, we will not use SpamAssassin.

Friday, 19. December 2003, 23:00:01

andewid

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Of course you do as you like :smile: But it is in the interrest of your users that features work good.

Friday, 19. December 2003, 23:05:55

qviri

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Opera's learning filters do work good.

Friday, 19. December 2003, 23:22:45

Domel

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So many changes.. :faint:

Saturday, 20. December 2003, 00:12:19

euihhbtl

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RSS support :smile: :smile: :smile:

Now if only I could figure out how I was able to actually read a feed earlier :worried:

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