Opera Mobile 10 final

Opera Mobile 10 final

Hi everyone,
We are proud to present Opera Mobile 10 final
And yes, it's free!

Download it from www.opera.com/mobile/download, or visit m.opera.com with your phone's browser, and post your feedback in the forums.

Important note: For those of you experiencing the "Could not initialize Opera" problem, or input lag, there is a fix available. Just download Opera again from the above links, and install it (no need to uninstall the previous build).

For more information about the release, please visit www.opera.com/mobile or the Opera Mobile blog.

We especially thank all our beta testers for helping us find lots of bugs, and hope to have your continued feedback going forward. Enjoy!

Best regards,
The Opera Mobile team

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Thank you for this excellent software! No problems so far. The browser feels very snappy. (Using it with a LG KS20 here.)

Likewise, installed as default browser on a HTC HD2.

Integration in Sense UI is not 100% (like the betas), favorites don't get thumbnails.

I would appreciate if someone could help me with the installation of the Opera Mobile 10 Final:

I have an HTC Touch HD (T8282). Until today have been using Opera Mobile 10 beta - everything was okay. Today I've updated my Opera to the final version and now receive the same message all the time: Could not initialize Opera. Reinstalled it several times, restarted the phone.

Does anybody have the same problem?

Thanks!

When I download it on my PC it tries to download Russian version while I have only EN-US in Languages in my IE8.
Why does Opera.com not respect my settings?

helenel: It was 1.03 beta, the last one. Exact build number I won't find anymore as it has been uninstalled during the installation of the final version. And now it doesn't even start.

no changelog yet: http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/mobile/winmobile/

How can I preserve the favorites and quick links I had in Opera Mobile 10 beta3?

helenel: Unfortunately, it didn't work. I've also tried to delete the old folder and install once again - same result.

Hello,

on the Download Site from Opera Mobile 10 Final I see only the "English Version".
Where can I download the multilanguage version?

Greets

Is there a way to select the interface language manually? I would like to have Opera in English, but it takes the language from my phone's regional sessings.

Opera Mobile 10 final not works on my Samsung Omnia I900, error message appears "Could not initialize Opera". I tried everything, reinstalling, deleting registry keys, definitely not works. Beta 3 worked fine.

Hi,

I downloaded and tested Opera Mobile 10 this morning on my HTC HD2.

Unfortunately It does not support multitouch.

I am very sursprised that it misses such an important fuctionality.
Navigation is therefore difficult on the HD2.

I reverted back to Opera 9.7
Sad and disappointed that the Opera team did not include multitouch. That's a deal breaker.

What about Opera mobile 10 for Samsung B7300 ? Beta version have no funktion for accelerometr thats to bad, bud 9.7 preinstalled by Samsung work cool.

As there is no option to use force UI to english (or other language) and opera.ini file setting reverts back to local language based on regional setting, you need to replace local language translation file with english (or other) language file:

1. browse to Opera installation folder - profile - bream ( Program Files\Opera Mobile 10\profile\bream )
2. Find your local language translation file; "locale-ri-??.rsc" files where ?? is sort code for language (fr = French, ru = Russian, fi = Finnish, etc.)
3. remove / rename it
4. Make copy of "locale-ri-en-gb.rsc" or "locale-ri-en-us.rsc" (US english file)
5. And rename that to your local language translation file; "locale-ri-??.rsc" (see step 2)

And no annoying forced translation is used

@OlVi: Many thanks, works perfectly! :-)

It does not have the variable zoom either...

Am I right?

No multitouch and no variable zoom as a second option are really a deal breaker. Really too bad, as everything else is awesome, blazing fast and smooth.
But instead of getting a 800px wide view by default that perfectly fits the HD2's screen with nicely written and perfectly readable text we get either a crippled shrinked 1024 one, or some too-much-zoomed-in alternative, with no way to get inbetween.
Flash works quite well, but on quite a few sites I get a flash icon with a 9. And for video sites, the lack of zoom either shows you part of the video or the whole page with a little video screen inside. Why no "fit video automatically"?

Wonder what went through the heads of the developers. It's close to being great, but those 2 little things make it practically nearly unuseable. Flease fix that, too bad to do all that work and just miss the last but most important step to user experience...
Flash is nice, but not essential, zoom is... just allow setting of the wide and "zoomed in" widths (at least a 1:1 option), pinch & zoom, and optionally the zoom bar like the one that can be activated in 9.7, and it will be the perfect browser.

Alos, think of an option to automatically play flash content without the need to tap the play icon.

Originally posted by Kilrahvp:

No multitouch

Hardly any phones support that anyway. Makes sense to not support it until most phones do.

Originally posted by prd3:

Hardly any phones support that anyway. Makes sense to not support it until most phones do.

And does removing it make more sense? 9.7 does it beautifully for the many people who have the few phones that supports it. When you release something you do it for the future, not the past

how come these dont work in the final build...?

favorites don't get thumbnails
no multitouch
no pinch to zoom

im thinking of going back to 9.7 just for pinch to zoom. why take something away that was very usefull for a final build of something...?

using a htc hd2

Originally posted by Kilrahvp:

Originally posted by prd3:

Hardly any phones support that anyway. Makes sense to not support it until most phones do.

And does removing it make more sense? 9.7 does it beautifully for the many people who have the one phone that supports it.

9.7 is a different browser. Opera Mobile 10 is clearly a major rewrite with a totally new UI. Also, 9.7 is bundled with phones, so Opera was paid to integrate multitouch on specific phones.

So it's not that it was removed, it's that it isn't implemented in v10.

Originally posted by donwhann:

how come these dont work in the final build...?
favorites don't get thumbnails

Why should they have thumbnails?

no multitouch
no pinch to zoom

Hardly any phones support this, so why spend lots of time implementing it all over again?

why take something away that was very usefull for a final build of something...?

Nothing was taken away. Opera Mobile 10 is not just an upgrade for 9.7, it has a totally new UI.

Originally posted by prd3:

Why should they have thumbnails?

Speaking about integration on the HD2 there, with the favorites screen.

Originally posted by prd3:

no multitouch
no pinch to zoom

Hardly any phones support this, so why spend lots of time implementing it all over again?

Because pretty much every new current and future high end phone has/will have it, maybe? Not keeping up would be pretty stupid. Those features have become standard now.

Originally posted by prd3:

Nothing was taken away.

Useability was taken away.

Originally posted by prd3:

Originally posted by donwhann:

how come these dont work in the final build...?
favorites don't get thumbnails

Why should they have thumbnails?

no multitouch
no pinch to zoom

Hardly any phones support this, so why spend lots of time implementing it all over again?

why take something away that was very usefull for a final build of something...?

Nothing was taken away. Opera Mobile 10 is not just an upgrade for 9.7, it has a totally new UI.

whatever dude, you carry on using 10 while i and probably quiet a few others go back to the better 9.7 build

Originally posted by donwhann:

whatever dude, you carry on using 10 while i and probably quiet a few others go back to the better 9.7 build

10 is much better than 9.7, but it's a generic Windows Mobile browser, whereas 9.7 is designed to work with certain features on specific phones.

Originally posted by prd3:

Originally posted by donwhann:

whatever dude, you carry on using 10 while i and probably quiet a few others go back to the better 9.7 build

10 is much better than 9.7, but it's a generic Windows Mobile browser, whereas 9.7 is designed to work with certain features on specific phones.

well thats why im off back to 9.7 as on my hd2 its much better than 10.

I totally do not understand the purpose of this Version 10...

I do consider multitouch and variable zoom as basic functions on a modern browser. Comfort of navigation shall be the main concern of the developers. Not proposing multitouch in year 2010 is simply unbelievable.
The technology was here (since 9.7 has it). So why remove it?!

Therefore, compared to my Opera 9.7 on the HD2 I have the feeling that this v10 is a regression.

Indeed, it is simply not useable: the size of the website is either too small (and therefore unreadable) or too big (and unreadable also!) and no way to adapt the zoom. Finally, the browser never scales to the right format. It just makes me crazy after 2 minutes.

The rest of the interface, the rendering and the speed are super good.
But the absence of these major functionalities is indeed a total dealbreaker.
As it is Opera v10 is just not convenient.

Also, Flash does not work either. Only from time to time.

Opera mobile not anymore support HP Ipaq 214?
Install was smooth and clear, but when trying to open Opera, I get error - Could not initialize Opera.
Can anyone confirm?

Originally posted by Mod0528:

Opera mobile not anymore support HP Ipaq 214?
Install was smooth and clear, but when trying to open Opera, I get error - Could not initialize Opera.
Can anyone confirm?

Yep, same here, Ipaq214, "Could not initialize Opera" error. This was installation over the 10 beta3!

What is the difference between this and Opera Mini? Since they released a version of Opera Mini beta that works on my Omnia I910 I find that it works far smoother than Opera Mobile 10. Optical mouse is almost completely unresponsive in Opera Mobile 10.
Side by side I would think that the Opera Mini beta was final and the Opera Mobile 10 was still in beta.

I had been using the Beta for a week or so and just upgraded. However now everytime i try to visit a page it says 'could not connect to proxy server' or 'Bad gatewat DNS_HOST_NOT_FOUND) so have not been able to use it :-(
my connection is fine - tried in v old opera version i have and no probs.

any suggestions?? not very technical so need some help!

I have tried uninstaling, reinstalling, rebooting etc etc several times

Agree with the other users who are using HD2s. Multitouch will become the norm in a very short space of time so it seems a little short sighted not to support it in this release. I appreciate the stance of those who responded with comments like 'its not an upgrade' and 'its a completely redesigned UI', but lets face it, multitouch is here so why not support it?

Apart from that, I do really like the interface and features and unlike other HD2 users, my favourites do have thumbnails. Will have to live with it for a while to see if I can do without multitouch integration but having got very used to it, I can see Opera 10 being uninstalled within a matter of days. Shame.

Thanks for the final release! I'm using HTC HD2.

I think there is any changes to the zoom levels. In beta 2, and 3 100% Zoom was really 100%, but now in final - 100% now has a much larger zoom. And a 200% is a huge. Everything else is perfect.

OK, a real "bug" now: images, even when displayed at 100%, are aliased.

For those using HD2s, in the settings go to zoom->60%. This will give (about?) 1:1 rendering, apparently the aliased images are such because they're enlarged a bit. This will disable zooming altogether too though, but it seems the click response of small links has been improved so if your screen is properly calibrated you should still be able to click on small links with no more than 1-2 tries.

I think that sort of workaround, although dodgy, does make it decently useable. If it didn't deactivate zooming it would be even better.

Hi Helene,

Thanks for this new version.
It is fast and I do like the new interface.

But as several users have reported on this forum I can barely understand the lack of Pinch & zoom feauture.

Almost all new windows phones will have multi-touch capacitive screen. So seems like a non-sense to remove this essential part.

I am now used to the pinch and zoom available on 9.7.

I finally uninstalled this v 10... Too difficult to navigate within the page.

Do you plan to put back multitouch in the next update?

Thanks

Dear Opera Mobile Team.

Great thanks for effort an indeed a great work which has been done.

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I must say however that on these nice words my compliments finish quickly.

Honestly, OMobile for Windows is a pile of crap
compared to native OMini for Windows.

Why?!

All the problems I was refererring since 1st beta (half a year ago?!)
are
gloriously PRESENT on this "final" OMini 10.

So, pictures are never loaded at first time, you have to reload everything to
see the real look of the page.

Of course banking in my Bank is still DEAD, however
OMini does that for years.
My Bank still does not see the browser's actions properly.

I did a fresh install to be shure it's not an upgrade problem etc.

Upload on Blogger is fucked up too.

It's also quite laggy when zoom in!

So summing this up:
half baked, not improved 5,3 MB of basic problems.

There's no simple reason to use it over OMini.

Honestly? A great great shame for Opera company.
(Opera user for 4 years or so....)

P.S. Who gave you the right to decide
FOR ME what language I use in browser??!!

I find Opera Mini 5 absolutely great. It's a fantastic browser.

But Opera Mobile disappoints me more and more. Still no flash working properly (why Skyfire can make it and not Opera ??)

Also, why most of the time my HD2 is recognised as a mobile (especially by google) and gives me mobile-view pages . How can I disable the mobile view? Hey, I don't want it. I want the REGULAR Internet view. No setting for that?

****

Big thanks for the final version, I think it's hands down the best mobile browser in the market, however I can't understand why it doesn't snap to text and auto resizes columns like the original Opera 9.5 in my Diamond does!!! Also please add an option to enable a zoom button or something for us who really needs it... It's a real pain having to go into the options everytime I stumble upon a page with too small text....

Zoom is a dealbreaker for me - I made it a priority to get an 800X480 screen specifically so that I *wouldn't* need to zoom. Why on earth would you wait until the final build to make a change like that?

This version is also slower to load, slower to render, and slower to display typed text.

It looks like text selection finally works, but unless you fix the zoom, I can't use this version.

im using the htc touch pro 2. just tried the 10 final build and it has the same typing delay as it had in the beta 2 build. just went back to beta 3 build where there is no typing delay on it at all. now when i mean typing delay that means everything i type is coming up massivley slow so if i write an entire sentance really fast the entire think will not completely show up for about 30 secs at the speed im typing at. this happens any where i type weather it be in the http or writing a message on face book or myspace or even to typing in here to reply to this forum. so please look into this issue. for now im staying on beta3 till this is corrected

It's really a shock this is atually released as FINISHED.

It never happened before that such non-ready, badly working
software is released by Opera as finished!

Never ever, whether it was Opera for desktop
or Opera Mini!

How the hell is that possible
that OLD Opera 9.5 can do MORE than Opera 10
few years later?!

This is something I really don't get.

Was it really SO HARD to make upload
on Blogger work??

The non loading pictures issue
is constant,

Opera are you listening
or you just don't care about this browser anymore??

I'm really surprised.....

I kept on testing this new version this afternoon and evening...

Sadly I have to come to this conclusion: This v10 is just a big step backwards...

The website never matches the screen, and if ever you need to zoom you have to go to settings.
Where is the smart zooming feature from 9.7 version?

Recent devices are multitouch. And Opera wants to ignore this feature?

I will go back to my old good v9.7 until Opera decides to upgrade v10.

The Opera Mobile 10 (Final) does not work correctly. (Sony Ericsson X1 with Windows Mobile 6.5). The touch keyboard is laggy (as it was in Beta 2 of the case.) Shit

This Opera Mobile 10 (Final) shall actually be Opera Mobile 10 (Beta 4).

This product is obviously not finished.

I have the laggy typing too. When I type the text is displayed too slowly.

How can Opera come to say that's a final release?

I think there is any changes to the zoom levels. In beta 2, and 3 100% Zoom was really 100%, but now in final - 100% now has a much larger zoom. And a 200% is a huge. Everything else is perfect.

I second that, on My iPAQ 214, which is high resolution (VGA) device as well, everythin is twice as big compared to beta 3, things are bigger on zoom 60% in final than on zoom 100% in beta 3, so generally things are too big and wasting screen, why such a big change in the last moment? So I say bad work

Is it safe to assume that Samsung Instinct HD users ( currently running Opera Mobile 9.7 ) will have a version of Opera Mobile 10 ready for download in a timely manner?
Any feedback/answers would be beneficial to all of us users.
Looking forward to the improvements.