Mouse controlling previous tab, not current tab

Mouse controlling previous tab, not current tab

I'm using Opera 10.51 on Windows 7.

So this is a weird problem. Occasionally, I have the mouse controlling the previous tab I had up instead of the one I currently have. Like scrolling, clicking, and mouse gestures all effect the tab that is no longer in sight.

I use mouse gestures for just about all navigation, including selecting tabs. I right click and use the scroll wheel to get the list and normally I just scroll up one to get to the tab that I was at least recently. (By the way, this is the single major feature that I cannot get any other browser to replicate and one of the reasons I have stuck with Opera for 11(?) years now) But sometimes, even though that tab came into the forefront my mouse will still control the previous tab as if that was still in front.

For example. I'm on Pandora.com, I hit play and get the music going. Then I right click and scroll up one to get to a forum I read that I had open. I then reload with a mouse gesture (up and down) and the forum doesn't reload, the Pandora tab does instead. This is the most obvious one since I can hear the music stop and see that it has happened. But it also happens with just mouse scrolling or straight clicking if there happens to be a link in the background tab where I'm clicking in the foreground tab.

This happens frequently enough to be annoying, but not so often that I can regularly reproduce it. So I'm not sure what's causing it. I also couldn't find anything searching the forums, but I wasn't really sure what to search for. If there's any sort of testing I could do or anything you could think of?

Yeah, I've also had this happen every now and then. I also use mouse gestures, and I suspect that maybe it's related to using the "wheel gesture" to switch tabs. It seems that sometimes it switches the tab you see, but the focus somehow remains on the previous tab and it's as if that tab is still the active one.

It's the same problem reported here:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=476941

Basically, using the wheel gesture twice in a row really quickly will trigger the bug.

Hope this gets fixed soon; I agree it is quite annoying.. and it's the last bug that's holding me back from upgrading from 10.10. (Also a long-time user here, since the Opera 3.2 days...)

Some mice are more prone to this than others. We've had similar issues with Logitech mice going back years ...

I was hoping 10.52 would fix this. Maybe the next release.

From my experience the mouse gesture focus only gets stuck on pages with Flash content, like those with videos. Can you confirm?

I use a Flash blocker with enabling on demand for each element, so I'm well aware if there is some Flash on a page.

Flash is known to not register the mouse gestures the same way 'regular' content does. It might also be that it's just *easier* for this to happen with Flash on a page, but that it's not the only way. Just guessing here...

Same problem here: There seem to ways to reproduce this:
1. Like mentioned a quick switch.
2. If an form has the focus and you switch the same problem occures (most of the time, reported as DSK-295843).
Hope it will be fixed soon, it's very annoying (working often with forms and parallel looking up informations on other sites)

I love opera. I've been using it for years, back since well before it was free. Love opera. 10.X and I'm switching to firefox. This bug is driving me insane. I watch shows online and if I switch tabs and try and navigate it keeps closing all my videos, so I have to go through the commercials again and reload the video. It's killing my browsing experience completely. I use gestures a ton, and move around allot in my tabs. Please fix this! more than three patches since 10 and no fix.

Originally posted by ermi:

From my experience the mouse gesture focus only gets stuck on pages with Flash content, like those with videos. Can you confirm?

I seem to have the same problem, Flash content won't even let me use mouse gestures (especially if the entire website is flash). I find this occurs even when switching tabs and not using the scroll wheel (ie using FlipBack or FlipForward to switch tabs). Often times I'll GestureUp to close a tab only for it to close the tab I was previously in. I will try to test to see if this is related to flash.

Originally posted by ermi:

From my experience the mouse gesture focus only gets stuck on pages with Flash content, like those with videos. Can you confirm?

I use a Flash blocker with enabling on demand for each element, so I'm well aware if there is some Flash on a page.

Flash is known to not register the mouse gestures the same way 'regular' content does. It might also be that it's just *easier* for this to happen with Flash on a page, but that it's not the only way. Just guessing here...

I have definitely had it happen on pages without flash. Most notably on pure images with no HTML content. I can get it to do this nearly 100% of the time if I do the following. On a page with multiple links to images middle click on them to open two or three in the background. Then use the Right Click+Scroll Wheel Up to go to the one you just opened, and then again for the next, and then again for the third. Now try and close the window with a mouse gesture. Almost every time I will have it close the image I was just on instead of the one currently in focus.

Happens all the time on myspace. Select a song or change volume, then cycle tabs. Extremely annoying.

cursor focus

I also have this problem constantly, in my case it completely locks up the UI until I wheel cycle back as well.

Originally posted by longview:

I also have this problem constantly, in my case it completely locks up the UI until I wheel cycle back as well.

I do get that occasionally as well. Can't click on anything on any page until I use the scroll wheel mouse gesture to change pages again. It's incredibly annoying. After 10 years on Opera I'm seriously starting to look at other browsers because of this and other problems that have been introduced.

Another way to unlock the UI is to right click.

I'm not sure whether I'm glad to see I'm not the only one frequently getting this bug. Hopefully it will get some attention soon.

So I just reloaded Pandora while trying to reload another page for about the 100th time. This is incredibly annoying and I have started looking at other browsers. Their mouse gestures can't compare so far, but if Opera's mouse gestures can't even effect the tab they're used on I suppose it doesn't make a difference. I guess I could check out 10.6 and see if it has been fixed, but I don't see it in the notes for that.

I do wish that Opera would have a Known Issues or bug list available, even if they cut out all the security related bugs. So at least we could know that they have acknowledged the issue and are working on it.

I've loved opera for years. LOVED. I despise using it now. Switching between tabs is completely broken. Switching to FF. It's a damn shame, and I really really don't want to do it, but I just can't bear this anymore.

Ok, tried the alpha. Still in there. FF it is.

Just took a peek at the beta and it's still there. Is there any new information about this and a possible timetable for a fix? Eventually I'm going to run out of "well, maybe they'll fix it in the next update"s.

Also, is it appropriate to report bugs in the Beta in the Beta forums if they're bugs that exist in current version of Opera?

I have reported it again for 10.54: DSK-303063

If they are supposed to have been fixed in the test versions at some time, you can report on them working or not working there. If it's a known bug in the stable version that has not been listed as fixed in the test version, there's no need to report that it isn't fixed.

Normally I'd just check the known bugs list and see if there's been any progress on it. However that seems to be a bit of a problem here.

Hopefully it's fixed by the time 10.6 gets released. I really would hate to have to switch browsers.

Sooooo... Any news? Because this bug is extremely annoying and has been there since (at least) 10.50.

I saw that 10.60 came out, and even though this bug isn't mentioned at all in the change log I thought I'd test it anyways. It's still there, exactly the same as it has been since 10.5something. Really quite disappointing.

Any updates on this?

It's still broke. Does that count as an update?

Maybe (hopefully) we'll see some of these kinds of bugs fixed now that most of the HTML5 related features are done.

Still waiting on a fix for this. 10.61 and 10.62 there's no mention of it in changelogs. I really don't feel like testing, /sigh, I'm tired of having to roll back to 9.x over and over. I wish support would make a showing in this thread to at least aknowledge there's a problem.

Well, I couldn't resist. 10.62, still bugged. It bums me out because I really like everything else about 10.X and I'd really like to switch to it. But if it can't handle multi tab browsing there's no point.

Actually, seems to be worse in the latest 10.70 snapshot ... I had it happen on my system on pages with Flash on them. Though pressing F8 then F9 seems to have fixed it.

Eventually, Chrome's going to come out with some mouse gesture plugin that can replicate the features I like from Opera without this bug and I'll have no choice but to switch. This gets really really annoying when it makes you accidentally reload a page that's doing something or will do something (Like Pandora while it's streaming movie, or a page with a video on it that you had paused, but is going to start autoplaying once it is reloaded)

Originally posted by TheOmni:

Chrome's going to come out ....... without this bug

...but with the lot of other bugs and with spy abilities of Google Chrome

I'm also Opera Veteran - loyal since Opera 6! I loved mouse gestures since the first day they appeared. I noticed this bug ... well....it's few months now. And I'm not using Right-click + scroll. It happens when I'm creating new tab and very often I close or broke my previous tab with ex. music by clicking on some link there. It's very frustrating. I'm also thinking about using some other browser now. C'mon guys, it's been months now! Is there any bug ticket I can follow?

(sorry for my english )

I read about "A mouse focus problem related to plug-ins" in the changelogs of v10.63, maybe this also fixes your problem.

Originally posted by bluezzbastardzz:

I read about "A mouse focus problem related to plug-ins" in the changelogs of v10.63, maybe this also fixes your problem.

I thought so too, but I'm already on the newest version, at home and at work. I think it may be related to old installation of Opera. I installed it after my last hard disk format, so about 1,5 years ago and upgrading since than. And If i remember I move the whole directory from the time before format, so I guess some files may be very old and may be it cause some issue. I don't know. I just don't want to start over with fresh install to find out

Been scanning the changelogs in every update since this bug first showed up, and it never gets fixed. It's the only bug that still has any impact on my browsing, and it is a constant annoyance - happens ever 10 minutes at least. It would be nice if they could fix it. I've loved Opera for the longest time but my confidence in the people behind it has been on a steady decline ever since I upgraded from 10.10 and had to deal with all the problems involved in upgrading to that stupid new GUI with an old skin turned on (new GUI hid the basic menus, old skin hid the 'big O'), then ran into this.

Originally posted by CRAZIE_GUY:

I've loved Opera for the longest time but my confidence in the people behind it has been on a steady decline ever since I upgraded from 10.10 and had to deal with all the problems involved in upgrading to that stupid new GUI with an old skin turned on (new GUI hid the basic menus, old skin hid the 'big O'), then ran into this.

Same here.
Opera devs, stop coming up with useless features (turbo...) and fix the bugs !

Originally posted by bluezzbastardzz:

I read about "A mouse focus problem related to plug-ins" in the changelogs of v10.63, maybe this also fixes your problem.

Nope. I'm running 10.63 right now and it's still happening.

And one of the many incredibly frustrating things about this is that it's 100% reproducible. If you do certain things in a certain order it will happen every single time. I've tested across a couple different computers including one that was a fresh Windows 7 install. I was installing the OS anyways so I just thought I'd give it a shot and download Opera and try it before doing anything else with the computer so there was nothing else to interfere.

I described it pretty well in a ticket I sent it, but the lack of any sort of ticket tracking system means I have no idea if anyone even looked at it or if they simply dismissed it as unimportant or claimed it's fixed when it's not or any other hundred different possibilities. Eventually, I'm going to get sick of it and give up on Opera. Of course, I've been saying that since April. Why does every other browsers' mouse gestures have to suck?

For anyone curious on how to get this reproduced I just go to a website with a bunch of links to images on it. I use one of the non-porn boards on 4chan, but you'll still have a pretty good chance at seeing porn or porn like images, so you may want to try some other site. Then just open a few of the image links in background tabs using the middle click gesture. Then right click+scroll up multiple times so that you're at the first image you opened. (speed is an issue here. If you do it slowly the bug won't always appear) In theory, at this point you should have the first image you opened on the screen and when you use a mouse gesture to close it you should see the second image you opened. In practice, you see the first image but the mouse gesture closes the second image. Every single time.

Still not fixed in 11 alpha. Is it really possible that the devs don't know about this bug, or do they just not care? I don't believe they're incapable of fixing it.

This is starting to become extremely annoying.

11.00 beta And it's still here. What really kills me is the total lack of any reaction to this. We have no idea if they even know this bug EXISTS. There's been no post in the forums and no listing of it on the bug reports. Fucking killing me here opera. I run my own computer repair business and now I have to tell people that they should just be using firefox because I'm getting sick of constant annoyance from opera.

Originally posted by parthnip:

11.00 beta And it's still here. What really kills me is the total lack of any reaction to this. We have no idea if they even know this bug EXISTS.

Yeah, it's getting annoying. I'm absolutely sure they know it exists (it has surely been reported several times), they just don't seem interested in doing anything about it (or even aknowledging it).

On top of that, they have now broken mouse gestures completely with the introduction of visual gestures. My fear is that they'll take the same approach with this, and not do anything about it. If so, I'm not sure I can continue using Opera. I love it in many ways, but without working mouse gestures (which has always been one of Opera's greatest advantages to me, since I've found no extension for any other browser which comes close to the gesture implementation Opera had before the visual UI broke it), I'm not sure it's worth it.

Have you tried FireGestures on FF?

Originally posted by Buszmen:

Have you tried FireGestures on FF?

I've tried a couple, so probably, yeah. But I really don't like Firefox, for a variety of reasons. I prefer Chrome, and for it I haven't found a really good gesture extension. Plus, extensions can't interact with Chrome's internal pages, which means gestures don't work on those pages (and that includes the new tab page). Highly annoying, and makes using gestures with Chrome pretty awful.

The best gesture solution I've found for Chrome is Strokeit. You're really just sending keyboard shortcuts to chrome when you perform gestures, so it works on internal pages too.

Originally posted by spadija:

The best gesture solution I've found for Chrome is Strokeit. You're really just sending keyboard shortcuts to chrome when you perform gestures, so it works on internal pages too.

Oh, wow, I'll have to try that. The failure of mouse gestures working on internal pages, especially the new tab page, is what has kept me from going to Chrome. I figure I'll at least wait until 11 comes out and see if Opera finally fixes this year old bug. (Well, maybe not a full year, I started this thread back in April, but it had been going on for a bit already. I forget exactly when.) But at least this will let me try out another browser.

Edit: Oh, 11 seems to have already come out. And possible messed up gestures. I need to start paying more attention to this stuff. /sigh

I've been trying this on the non-beta release of Opera 11 on Windows 7 x64 and the bug is still present. It's a shame that nothing seems to be done about this.

Originally posted by expN:

I've been trying this on the non-beta release of Opera 11 on Windows 7 x64 and the bug is still present.

Yep. It's a shame that it never gets fixed. It may only affect me a couple of times a day, but that's too much. When it does happen, it's highly annoying and can produce some unwanted results (as you scroll and click the wrong page).

So I heard 11.01 fixed what 11.0 messed up with mouse gestures. I went and upgraded, just in case, but this bug is still there.

Originally posted by TheOmni:

So I heard 11.01 fixed what 11.0 messed up with mouse gestures. I went and upgraded, just in case, but this bug is still there.

Yeah, that had nothing to do with this bug (which has been there before and after, and through it all). It seems to be very low on Opera's priority fix list, unfortunately.

I've sort of trained myself not to trigger this, but it's still really annoying when I do, especially when I'm closing tabs, and even more frustrating when the tabs I'm not trying to close (and do close) have unsaved data in them.

Same problem,
and it still sucks.

In case anyone is curious, I was able to consistently reproduce this bug in 11.10. So it's still around more than a year later.

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It's DSK-283923

11.50 No change.

11.51 And still present

Great work team!

Originally posted by expN:

Great work team!

Uhh, it's still broken in all the latest builds of Opera. Wrong topic?

I would say expN uses a little bit sarcasm. Maybe everybody in this thread should send a bug report.

Originally posted by stefan4875:

Maybe everybody in this thread should send a bug report.

No don't do that, one bug report is enough. Duplicates just waste the developers time.

Well we did this how many times? This bug occurred the first time over a year and a half ago. In this time it was reported several times (not all at once). Nobody cared. I (and maybe others) had mentioned it in the developers blog. What do you think will happen if we send another single report? With multiple reports we may get at least something like a little response.

Maybe you should read How to submit good bug reports especially the following.

Originally posted by Before you complete or submit a bug report::

Think about whether it has already been reported. You can find this out by communicating with other Opera users in the community forums, checking newsgroups or the Opera-users mailing list. If the bug is being discussed, it has probably been reported already. In this case, do not file a bug report, as any report filed will be marked as a duplicate. This wastes both your time and the time that we could better spend resolving existing issues

Maybe i have. Oh no i'm sure i have. I've tried my best to make a good report the first time i reported this bug (I know how it is to receive bad bug reports). And the second time a couple of month (and versions) later.

Bug still here in 11.60. Never ending story

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2012/09/06/increased-security-when-installing-extensions
DSK-330884 Mouse action does not always apply to the current tab after switching tabs

Could it finally be...........

Nope.