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9. April 2010, 15:42:36

videobruce

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Problem with many sites showing what should be a wide column of text

I don't know the proper terms which makes this harder to describe, but take a look here;
http://www.filestube.com/f1d695f2caf70fb903ea,g/HP-Pavilion-dv2z-1100-Notebook-with-AMD-Processors-F-27A-Hp%5BHPQOEMSLIC-MPC-HPQ%5D2-1-BIN-SLIC21-HP-SLP.html

Lately, I have come across many of these sites that have a collumn of text that is only a inch wide for example (on a 24" 16x10 monitor set at 1920x1200). I'm running XP pro w/sp3 if that matters and this just started showing up in V10.

narrow width collumn Opera 1.jpg

Here is another example;
http://www.geek.com/laptop-processors/

Notice the right column text;
narrow width collumn Opera 2.jpg
Removing the menu bar is the same as blocking access to a vehicle engine by removing the hood access.
No wonder Opera continues to loose users.

9. April 2010, 16:17:55 (edited)

videobruce

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reserved
Removing the menu bar is the same as blocking access to a vehicle engine by removing the hood access.
No wonder Opera continues to loose users.

9. April 2010, 18:01:09

Luxor

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I don't see a problem at your first link.
Your second link I can reproduce using fit to width so turn off fit to width and it will display fine.
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10. April 2010, 13:00:27 (edited)

videobruce

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I have never been to or heard of that 1st link. I only went there while doing a search. Did you look at the attachment for the 1st link? That 'box' on the right side text is as unreadable as it is in the 2nd attachment.

I never used or touched this "Fit to width". When was this introduced and what is the supposed purpose of it, other than it obviously causes unnecessary problems?

While I'm at it, what is the proper term for these 'boxes' that are affected?
Removing the menu bar is the same as blocking access to a vehicle engine by removing the hood access.
No wonder Opera continues to loose users.

10. April 2010, 13:00:43

Luxor

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Originally posted by videobruce:

Did you look at the attachment for the 1st link? That 'box' on the right side text is unreadable as it is with the 2nd attachment.


I meant I don't see a problem when I go to the site in question, not the attachment you posted.

Originally posted by videobruce:

"Fit to width"? What/where is that?



Depends how you have Opera set up.

Look down at the bottom right of the browser window. There is a View button. Click on that and fit to width is in there.
You may have somehow turned it on globally, So press CTRL+F12 > Web Pages and uncheck Fit to width.

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10. April 2010, 13:53:00

videobruce

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Whatever that Icon was, I deleted it (among all the other annoying untitled Icons), but I did find it under "View". I never touched it since I didn't know it was there. It was either missing completely or it displayed properly.
When I looked at the 1st link again, for whatever reason that box wasn't there unless you changed that width setting. Another overly complicated web page with too many BS 'extras' for the 'children' that visit it. furious
Removing the menu bar is the same as blocking access to a vehicle engine by removing the hood access.
No wonder Opera continues to loose users.

11. April 2010, 13:01:46

videobruce

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This "Fit to width" feature, exactly how does it work? It doesn't seem to remember how it was set. Is the default always set to "Fit to width"??
Removing the menu bar is the same as blocking access to a vehicle engine by removing the hood access.
No wonder Opera continues to loose users.

11. April 2010, 13:26:15

Luxor

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Fit to width is not set as default. If you set a page to fit to width then that will only apply until you close that page.
You can set it globally as mentioned previously from the preferences, but I wouldn't recommend it as it could break the display of some pages.
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11. April 2010, 13:47:54

videobruce

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Setting it which way would break the page display?
Removing the menu bar is the same as blocking access to a vehicle engine by removing the hood access.
No wonder Opera continues to loose users.

11. April 2010, 13:58:14

Luxor

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If you check the box to use it globally.
I would only use it if a page was not displaying properly to see if that fixed the problem.
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11. April 2010, 14:09:49

videobruce

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I have been toggling back and forth with different web pages. It seems with 90%+ (rough figure) it didn't make a difference.
Removing the menu bar is the same as blocking access to a vehicle engine by removing the hood access.
No wonder Opera continues to loose users.

11. April 2010, 14:16:48

Luxor

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As you can see at the link from your first post, fit to width breaks the display at the site http://www.geek.com/laptop-processors/
It's up to you if you use it or not but as you see from that example it breaks the page.
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11. April 2010, 14:52:16

videobruce

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"Breaks" is the correct term. Why does this happen since in either mode the full page width is displayed? Does having a widescreen display have anything to do with it?
Removing the menu bar is the same as blocking access to a vehicle engine by removing the hood access.
No wonder Opera continues to loose users.

11. April 2010, 14:56:59

Luxor

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Just the way the site is coded as far as I know.
That site as an example has 71 errors when you validate it so that's probably the reason it breaks.
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11. April 2010, 15:27:53

videobruce

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Considering every time I validate any site that has problems, 71 is a low error count.
Removing the menu bar is the same as blocking access to a vehicle engine by removing the hood access.
No wonder Opera continues to loose users.

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