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Opera Mini for Nintendo DSi/3DS [petition]
Opera Software, the DSi browser is great, you made a good job adapting the Opera Mobile rendering engine to such a limited hardware.But it misses Opera Link, the data compression (faster page loading), notes, tabs, copy&paste and Speed Dial.
We, DS users, want these features but the DSi browser is sure to not to receive these updates because Nintendo doesn't want a browser that passes all the data on third party servers, it must be due to user agreement, etc.
But, wait, why not bringing Opera Mini into DS systems?
You could release it in DSiWare for free (0), 100 or 200 points because it's very small.
I think it would be a big sucess! Opera Mini would be awesome for "slow wi-fi" and big websites loading time (the same marketing you are doing about Opera Mini on iPhone and did in the Opera Turbo launch), so why not? I'm sure you are able to do so!
Nintendo DSi XL has just launched in US and Nintendo 3DS will be compatible with DSiWare titles, so there's a big market for Opera Mini on Nintendo handhelds!
That's why I created this petition, I'm sure a lot of people want Opera Mini on DS systems, and the signs below will show that for you.
If you want to see Opera Mini 5+ for Nintendo DSi/DSiXL/3DS published via DSiWare, join MyOpera or login with your existing account and reply to this topic with
, , +1 or any comment you have about Opera Mini running on Nintendo handheld systems.Thank you for your time.
Thank you Opera Software for creating this place where we can express our feelings to let you know what we want.
PS: I'd love to see Opera Software and Nintendo working together again for the next Nintendo consoles, the browser layout engine rocks!!
This request is about making a special version for the DSi system (unless someone finds out how to make the Java version of Opera Mini to run on DS(i) systems).
Originally posted by rafaelluik:
This request is about making a special version for the DSi system (unless someone finds out how to make the Java version of Opera Mini to run on DS(i) systems).
That would require native C, I believe. Which would take a lot of resources and time. I would recommend just waiting for the 3DS, seeing that is not very far away.
Originally posted by DanielHendrycks:
I would recommend just waiting for the 3DS, seeing that is not very far away.
Why waiting?
Originally posted by rafaelluik:
Why waiting?
Because the DSi will be dated soon by the 3DS. Besides, not many use their DS for browsing because it does not have much power to render things fast. Once the 3DS is out Opera will probably be paid to make a better browser for a device that is powerful.
Originally posted by DanielHendrycks:
That's exactly why I want Opera Mini's "faster rendering in any very limited device" for DS(i) and higher systems, that would make more people uses it.Originally posted by rafaelluik:
Why waiting?
Because the DSi will be dated soon by the 3DS. Besides, not many use their DS for browsing because it does not have much power to render things fast.
Opera is not paid to do Opera Mini "Java version" either, it's paid by the search engines and Speed Dial partners. As everyone is talking, 3DS will be compatible with DSiWare so making it for DSi now means making it for DSi and 3DS at the same time, there's no loss of money here (I guess).
The question is: does DSi + 3DS number of possible users worth on making a DSiWare version (3DS compatible - which would mean just re-releasing it in "3DSWare")?
Or... Can somebody make a Java ME emulator that works on DS? (would require a flashcard, which isn't very good...)
Originally posted by hogther:
But, already exists Opera for DSi, why not simply add Opera Link and Data Compression instead of another Opera Browser?
Because there's only 16 MB of RAM memory available in the system, 1. that would not be possible and/or 2. Nintendo doesn't wants pages going to Opera servers and the browser to have Opera features, that's because the browser isn't developed by Opera Software: Opera pratically only did the layout engine adaptation to the DS system and can't decide what features to add or not and either can't decide when update the app.
And... That would not be another Opera Browser. As I said before the browser isn't Opera's product: the name of the app is "Nintendo DS(i) Browser" and it's "developed by Nintendo".
Originally posted by RekaG:
but it seems like opera has givin' up on the DSi browser?
Nintendo has not asked them to continue developing it, it is not Opera's responsibility.
Originally posted by DanielHendrycks:
I know.Originally posted by RekaG:
but it seems like opera has givin' up on the DSi browser?
Nintendo has not asked them to continue developing it, it is not Opera's responsibility.
I actually remember specifically that, someone that works for Nintendo said that it was up to opera, hey it might not be true because I also was lied to by NoA representive lied to me.
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Opera Mobile or something better must be the right web browser for 3DS.
Originally posted by rafaelluik:
Opera Mobile or something better must be the right web browser for 3DS.
+1
It has only gotten one update on the DSi
Why Open the Web?
Despite the connecting purpose of the Web, it is not entirely open to all of its users. When used correctly, HTML documents can be displayed across platforms and devices. However, many devices are excluded access to Web content.
http://my.opera.com/community/openweb/info/
Originally posted by poorrichard01:
Exactly!For the person who said NO, because not many people use their DS for browsing....they don't use it for browsing because the browser is not that great! Opera Mini would be a great improvement.
Hi, I'm a happy consumer of Nintendo DSi and surely a future consumer of Nintendo 3DS.
What I want to share with you is how much grateful I'm for the Nintendo DSi Web Browser and I wish you partner with Opera Software again to make the Nintendo 3DS web browser.
Opera Software makes the fastest web browser around, the Opera web browsers are feature rich, innovative and follow the web standards proposed by W3C like no other browser company does.
Opera is the most popular mobile web browser, it's the most used, surely because it's the best web browser and I wish I could surf the web with it in my future Nintendo 3DS.
I'm sure they can adapt their browser to run perfect in 3DS, including technologies like "HMTL5", "WebM", "Geolocation", and many others. Maybe you can even ask them for a technology that make use of 3DS's 3D screen, like 3D CSS (I think it does exist).
Thanks for letting me to do this direct contact with you, I hope Opera Software (which made DS(i) and Wii's great browsers) gets into consideration when deciding who will make the web browser for the 3DS.
Haven't I made a wonderful job?
Originally posted by DanielHendrycks:
Well, it's better for me to make merchandising just about the features it has right now since I don't know Opera's future.Don't forget Hardware Acceleration for the 3DS, once Opera has it (which will be soon, I speculate).
Anyway, I'm pretty sure Nintendo will be choosing Opera Software for making a new web browser...
Or they'll simply make the poor and outdated DSi Web Browser available for 3DS. (believe me, it can happen)
Why Open the Web?
Despite the connecting purpose of the Web, it is not entirely open to all of its users. When used correctly, HTML documents can be displayed across platforms and devices. However, many devices are excluded access to Web content.
http://my.opera.com/community/openweb/info/
http://e3.nintendo.com/3ds/ was pointed as a source for 3DS information and once new details are announced, they'll post the news to their website (www.nintendo.com), also telling me to check back often.
Originally posted by rafaelluik:
I received an answer to my message and the attendant said that my comments would be added to their records for this system and made available for other departments at the company to use as they see fit. The attendant also said "we do not have any information on what type of Internet browser would be available on the Nintendo 3DS, or if it will even have an Internet browser" because Nintendo adore to keep things as a top secret.
http://e3.nintendo.com/3ds/ was pointed as a source for 3DS information and once new details are announced, they'll post the news to their website (www.nintendo.com), also telling me to check back often.
Hey, that's pretty cool! I also emailed Nintendo a few days ago and blogged about it. It was a pretty lengthy email so I'll just post the link to my post for you all to read at your leisure. That post links to their response as well.
Here's to hoping that a good amount of our ideas get implemented!
PS: they won't confirm or deny everything you asked, but will thank you for your comments.
LOL, I contacted Nintendo so many times I know exactly the words they'll use.
Originally posted by rafaelluik:
@FreshWibby that was completely unrelated to the discussion of "Opera on Nintendo DSi / 3DS" purpose of this thread.
Seriously? Completely unrelated? Seeing as how my post involved an email and Nintendo's response, oh, and the 3DS as well, I can see how it was *completely* unrelated. Going into other threads and putting your discussion links in them doesn't exactly equate to contributing to the conversation either.
Just my 2 cents, so here's 2 more : Opera has been with the DS since the first version, with the Nintendo DS Browser [ the cartridge version ] . . . sooooo why wouldn't Opera be on the 3DS? It's kind of a moot point to start a thread of this nature.
Why Open the Web?
Despite the connecting purpose of the Web, it is not entirely open to all of its users. When used correctly, HTML documents can be displayed across platforms and devices. However, many devices are excluded access to Web content.
http://my.opera.com/community/openweb/info/