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12. April 2010, 11:08:05

SMGGM

Posts: 50

TERENA SSL certificate

On my schools website I get a SSL certificate error (link: https://wayf.associatie.kuleuven.be/ ). The certificate is signed by TERENA SSL what seems to be valid since Firefox, Chrome and IE have the TERENA certificate build in but Opera doesn't.
So my question why doesn't Opera have this certificate build in?

Yes, I know that I can just click on Approve but that's not the point. Then you'll be sending out a signal that you can just press approve to messages that are related to security. Pressing Approve doesn't guarantee that the connection is secured.

I'm using Opera 10.51 on Windows 7 and XP.
Thanks in advanced wink

12. April 2010, 13:43:36

yngve

Senior Developer

Posts: 2975

http://www.opera.com/docs/ca/
Sincerely,
Yngve N. Pettersen

12. April 2010, 14:13:23

SMGGM

Posts: 50

I'm guessing that you're saying with that link that Terena didn't contact Opera Software to have their certificate included in Opera. So Terena will never be included until they contact Opera.

12. April 2010, 18:34:51

innbound

Posts: 135

That's kind of strange. My issue with certificates is the constant "this server does not offer renegotiation". I've contacted eBay's security staff about that several times concerning the pages used to pay seller fee's and they keep giving me the same answer: Opera staff just doesn't get it. So, for the last 6-8 months anyone using Opera with eBay's seller fee's payment pages (according to Opera) has been sending their paypal info "unsecurely". Yet, the eBay security team says that just is not so. Go figure. I suppose to be perceived as elite one must act like it if nothing else. What is funny is that Opera will scream "standards" to the top of their lungs and hang everybody else on the fact that they don't uphold 1 specific little thing... meanwhile they leave out obvious parts that other browsers have considered standard for years. How long was it that Gecko had XSLT usage and Opera didn't? 3 years, 4? Does it have it yet? I don't know because I eventually became trained to just open Firefox when I knew a site had it. I just gave up waiting. Firefox doesn't look as good as Opera, it is not as fast, it has annoying extensions and is in many more ways less polished BUT... it does function better and imo is more reliable with the standards that it choses to implement which are (and this is difficult to admit) probably more of the sum total than Opera because of Opera's stiff upper lip policies of acting elite at the cost of alienating people.

27. April 2010, 07:54:15

dafalias

Posts: 59

I get heavy complaints from both Firefox 3.0 and 3.6 on a server using a Terena Certificate. IE all versions and Chrome seem to know the root certificate.
Alas, we seem to have an egg-chicken-dilemma here.
As long as the Opera staff is waiting for the SSL certificate vendors to registrate and the latter do not consider Opera significant enough we are not going to see much movement in this issue.

27. April 2010, 10:57:47

yngve

Senior Developer

Posts: 2975

They have probably asked Microsoft to include their certificate, and the Chrome will know it because Chrome is using the Windows certificate repository on Windows; Mozilla and Opera doesn't, and Chrome on other OSes won't necessarily know it either.

The CA can help by getting their Root cross-signed by a CA known may most browsers. At least one CA in Opera's Rootstore did that while their Root was propagated.
Sincerely,
Yngve N. Pettersen

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