Opera Mini for iPhone - feedback

Opera Mini for iPhone - feedback

Hi all,

As you probably know by now, Opera Mini was approved by Apple.

I see a lot of feedback in the forum already, but to make it easier for the Opera Mini team to keep up with the feedback, please use this thread.

Thanks!

SPEED:
Crazy fast page loading compared to Safari, but startup takes a bit longer.

ZOOMING:
I'm really missing pinch zooming. Two zoom levels isn't enough.

SCROLLING:
Scrolling down doesn't keep you to the current column but moves all over the place (sideways). It should glue itself to the column while scrolling down even if the finger doesn't move straight down.

TOP:
It doesn't go to the top of the page when pressing the top bar.

UI:
The UI needs some polish. It should look more like an iPhone app, not just a ported Android app.

TYPING:
It doesn't correct my speeling eroors

thanks for opening this thred

i was shocked that opera wont work
it display a white screen with a spinning wheel in the top left
i tried to change my router and tried to open opera over EDGE but nothing
and i see a lot of ppl facing my problem
can you tell me how can i solve it please?

I've been trying to load up Opera Mini for hours. However each time is ends with a white screen and an Apple spinner wheel. After 10-20 mins, it will say to check my network connection.

I've tried forwarding port 1080 through my router as suggested on the other thread. I've also tried disabling WIFI and just using the data provided by AT&T.

Zero Success.

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First - job well done guys!

Second, some issues - I am not sure if they are exclusive to the iPhone:
1. http://www.ynet.co.il -- lots of empty white spaces and no text at all.

2. Displaying phpBB-based forums works, but EDITing posts FAILS:
- text is left-aligned whereas it is supposed to be right-aligned.
- text is flipped!

I will add relevant screen shots once I'm back home...


Other:
- Opera could really benefit from the iPhone's built-in auto complete functionality...
- When trying to post this from the iPhone -- writing it was fine, but after hitting submit the post was NOT created; I was just brought back to the forum...
- Pinch-to-Zoom: if you can do real pinch to zoom, don't offer it... as said, two zoom options is like no "pinching"...

Hello,
Just download opera mini from itunes store , but there is problem with arabic support , all words is reverse , and I'll not use it until it fixed.

I am actually posting this via Opera Mini on my Ipod Touch (3G). Here is my take:

-Youtube Mobile doesn't play videos, you can't see the videos at all.

-Runs great, a lot faster than Safari, except on first load up.

-Pinch and zoom is missed by myself and a few friends.

-Spell check doesn't work.

-Should have custom skins.

-Should have some form of implemented flash. (If possible)

-Should have a slightly different look for Iphone compared to the Droid.

Like I said though, the browser is awesome and fast. Thanks for everything Opera.

Very good, but the issues mentioned do make it less than perfect (on a 3G, if it matters):

- Stepless pinch-zoom, double tap to auto-zoom to whatever you tapped
- Touch top bar to go to address bar
- Scrolling should lock on the y axis when scrolling down, x when horizontal, like Safari does
- Scrolling is pretty jerky, in fact significantly jerkier than anything else in the app
- When scrolling down all iPhone apps allow you do keep dragging the window after it's reached the end, this is a nice kind of feedback and would help with consistency.
- When rendering a page for landscape-view, switching to portrait mode doesn't resize the text to fit.
- Spell check is nice
- Better integration with Opera Link, my bookmarks didn't come with, and there's no way to expand the speed dial to more buttons like the desktop model.
- Syncing passwords over Link would be really nice, especially for those long passwords with multiple cases and alphanumerics
- Please make a full Opera Mobile!

Happy to have Opera an the iPhone now

Some things I noticed:

- contrary to what the OM FAQ says, Link doesn't sync my bookmarks at all
All I got is an additional Opera mini folder.

Does that mean that I have to duplicate my entire bookmark collection and put them in this folder to get them all on OM as well,
or will there be an update which adds the "more bookmarks" mentioned in the FAQ?

- Pinch to zoom is really missing (a lot...)

- touching the header doesn't take you to the top, but touching the title bar does.

- this takes me to the next point: is there a way to disable this pretty thick and space consuming title bar? Or make is smaller?

- any way to sync more than 9 speed dials?

Great work guys!

EDIT: managed to get rid of the title bar, but now the function to get to the top of a page is really missing as touching the header bar (with clock, battery etc.) doesn't take you there (as with Safari).

thanks for providing a GREAT browser, Opera now has the best computer browser and now portable device browser!!
anyway, one particular concern of mine and MANY others(opera mini has been trending on twitter for hours and LOTS of people are saying the same thing) is the way zooming in/out works. if it zooming worked more like safari does then it would be great.

edit: i don't think opera link is working...it is not syncing my bookmarks from my browser(10.5) to my ipod

download the application to my iphone 3G and nothing, not working, you know someone like that is possible? intentanto load is only something to restart the iphone and nothing.
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Ok, i post the subject here again:

Seems that Opera mini can not save images within a secured area (httpd.conf)...

First you browse to the page and login with user and pass and then:

Whenever I try to save an image i get
"Download failed. *link* Please try again"
But it never succeeds, tried with different images, also tried protocol settings Socket/HTTP, all the same.

This would be very important to fix.

One thing I would also have on my wish list would be:
Desktop-browser like tabs (-> always visible). Some other browsers in the appstore show that this can also be done in an usable, nice way on the iphone. Also the symbols, adress-bar etc. are quite big and could be shrinked to gain more screen space.

Besides that, nice first impression. But please fix the httpd.conf image saving flaw.

I'd like to report an issue.

I had Opera Mini on my Nokia phone and it always had trouble when ampersands were not HTML encoded. (This happened at http://m.rmilk.com),

Now I have a password with an ampersand in it and Opera will not recognize the password as valid. Coincidence? Possibly. Is anyone else seeing issues with ampersands?

Thai text on Opera mini for iPhone is almost unreadable. The vowels are in the wrong places and the tone marks are completely lost, not to mention the same old Thai text wrapping/Line breaking problem that found in every variants of Opera browser.

I agree with quite a few points above. Main ones being:

More zoom levels would be great.

I love the single tap to zoom feature though

Instant backwards button loading is excellent!

Scrolling down doesn't keep you to the current column but moves all over the place (sideways). It should glue itself to the column while scrolling down even if the finger doesn't move straight down.

Tapping the top bar should go back to top

Navigation buttons between form fields should be added. This is very useful in Safari

Opera Link should sync bookmarks

Any number of speed dials should be allowed and synched. Maybe allow them off the bottom of the screen and a quick vertical swipe would allow them to be revealed.

Congrats on the Opera for iphone app but you guys can't stop here. Few changes are needed before people can actually make the switch from Safari:

1) Fix multitouch pinch to zoom. It should work exactly like Safari and not your "all or nothing" approach where you can only zoom way out or way in.
2) Fix the font sizes on zoomed out pages. When you first go to a page all the font is smaller than it should, forcing you to zoom in places where you shouldn't.
3) Fix the CSS/formating issues Opera has been plagued by for years. Remember when Firefox first came out and all these websites were broken because they were designed for IE? It's even worse than that for Opera, and because Opera has zero market share webmasters are never going to fix things on their end. If you want the web to look how it should you are going to need to make the fixes on your end to how you render pages.
4) Other bugs. I haven't looked at this seriously the above things are only major issues that need to be resolved as soon as possible.

Pushing an update out ASAP would really help your case. Users who try this are instantly being turned away by the above flaws.

Opera has always had one of the best rendering engines in terms of speed and standards support. Where it fails is user interface. The interface has always been crap on all platforms, except maybe Wii.

iPhone is not an exception. I have tried it. It looks alien. The red title bar is in your face and takes up screen real estate. Though, you can turn it off by going into settings and enabling full screen. The icons are ugly and big, devoid of any style. It wastes screen real estate. The fonts look worst than in Safari since it’s not native.

The only thing good about it is that it’s fast. It’s very fast due to the caching and compiling done by the Opera proxy server which will be disabled for HTTPS for obvious security reasons. Should the proxy servers fail, everybody is in a world of hurt.

Zoomed out pages look like crap and you have to zoom in before text is readable to figure out what you want to read and zoom in further.

Here are screenshots of Digg as it’s loaded by default. Nothing has been done to Safari. Opera is in “full-screen” to get rid of the annoying red bar.

Safari:
http://i42.tinypic.com/14ahq93.png

Opera:
http://i43.tinypic.com/28khq4h.png

The speed is very nice, but everything else, the “overall experience” sucks. Apple users expect DESIGN. There isn’t any. Design doesn’t mean ‘pretty’. It’s how it feels, not just how it looks. Opera neither feels nor looks good.

Take for example Transmission, the most popular Mac BitTorrent client. There is a Cocoa interface, a KDE interface, and a GTK interface, a web interface. Cross-platform apps tend to suck because they have to design to the lowest common denominator. Transmission does not suck because though the core is cross-platform, the GUIs are not and take full advantage of their respective platforms.

Opera, you have great engineers. But, you must hire user interface designers and strictly adhere to the user interface guidelines for each platform. Make it native!

I'd love to start this post by admiring the browser's performance, but I can't since I'm facing the same problem a lot of people are having: a white page and the loading loading spinning wheel, start page not loading at all.

I read that to solve this problem I may have to change a setting from within the app (socket > http), but since I'm stuck at the white screen (on wifi and mobile network) I'm unable to access the settings' menu.

Listing Opera's options in the iPhone's settings menu would've solved this, but unfortunately the current build doesn't support that feature.

Talking about user experience: the very first scroll on a page (from stand still to wherver you move) feels (and is) very jumpy compared to Safari (and every other iPhone app that lets you scroll, e.g. zoomed photos).

Originally posted by TehShunT:

Congrats on the Opera for iphone app but you guys can't stop here. Few changes are needed before people can actually make the switch from Safari:

1) Fix multitouch pinch to zoom. It should work exactly like Safari and not your "all or nothing" approach where you can only zoom way out or way in.
2) Fix the font sizes on zoomed out pages. When you first go to a page all the font is smaller than it should, forcing you to zoom in places where you shouldn't.
3) Fix the CSS/formating issues Opera has been plagued by for years. Remember when Firefox first came out and all these websites were broken because they were designed for IE? It's even worse than that for Opera, and because Opera has zero market share webmasters are never going to fix things on their end. If you want the web to look how it should you are going to need to make the fixes on your end to how you render pages.
4) Other bugs. I haven't looked at this seriously the above things are only major issues that need to be resolved as soon as possible.

Pushing an update out ASAP would really help your case. Users who try this are instantly being turned away by the above flaws.

+1!!!
One last thing, on devices like iPhone, "Fix text to screen" should be enabled by default.

P.S.: Contratulations!

This speed but with an iPhone-like hmi an some better Rendering.

bookmarks is a biggie for me...spent time setting up opera link and opera on the pc as after playing with the iphone app for some time. not sure if i would replace safari as my primary browser on the iphone but wanted it setup for times when faster browsing would be needed. but without my mobileme bookmarks, the app loses its function of being quicker. i have way too many bookmarks organized into folders and subfolders to dot hat all over again manually. i have seen others mention the opera link function for bookmarks didnt work for them either.

Hey guys, first off, congratulations on getting threw apples vicious app acceptance lol, but im having a small problem, i can't seem to log into my banks internet banking, i AM able to log into it via Safari, but would love to ditch that for good, all i need is access to my bank.
Any help, or some insight if this is a bug, would be greatfull

The bank is, www.hunterunited.com.au, im from australia.

Thanks. This is a great start. Here are some my initial impressions.
Interface Related:
- Standardize interface - Add extras as you like, but it should always have the iphone "feel".
- Auto-correction
- Pinch zooming.

Other Stuff:
- Unable to login to MSN or hotmail.

Keep up the good work,
Jack

Hello Opera team .
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Ive installed Opera Mini on mi iPhone 3GS and when I click a link on the home page or enter a URL the page does not load. I simple see the spinning wheel and nothing else.

I had that problem with more couple of persons in Israel .

What are actually synchronized and how:
On Opera 10.* browser, all your Opera Mini 5 bookmarks should be displayed in 'Opera Mini' folder. However, for some reason developers decided not to show desktop bookmarks in the same way under Opera Mini 5 bookmarks. To use and edit your desktop bookmarks on Opera Mini 5, add either speed dial or bookmark for Opera Link like this:
http://my.opera.com/YOUR_ACCOUNT_NAME_HERE/account/link/bookmarks/

Originally posted by TehShunT:

3) Fix the CSS/formating issues Opera has been plagued by for years. Remember when Firefox first came out and all these websites were broken because they were designed for IE? It's even worse than that for Opera, and because Opera has zero market share webmasters are never going to fix things on their end. If you want the web to look how it should you are going to need to make the fixes on your end to how you render pages.

This is a useless comment. Most of the "CSS/formatting issues" are because of browser sniffing.

Pushing an update out ASAP would really help your case. Users who try this are instantly being turned away by the above flaws.

Wrong.

Originally posted by SpookyET:

Opera has always had one of the best rendering engines in terms of speed and standards support. Where it fails is user interface. The interface has always been crap on all platforms, except maybe Wii.

iPhone is not an exception. I have tried it. It looks alien. The red title bar is in your face and takes up screen real estate. Though, you can turn it off by going into settings and enabling full screen. The icons are ugly and big, devoid of any style. It wastes screen real estate. The fonts look worst than in Safari since it’s not native.

Actually, the user interface in Opera Mini 5 has been universally praised because it looks great and is really smooth and polished. Safari looks like a dead dog in comparison.

The speed is very nice, but everything else, the “overall experience” sucks.

Nope. It's great.

Apple users expect DESIGN. There isn’t any.

Yes there is. Opera Mini is much smoother and better looking that Dogfari.

Opera, you have great engineers. But, you must hire user interface designers and strictly adhere to the user interface guidelines for each platform. Make it native!

Useless, useless, useless.

Originally posted by prd3:

Nope. It's great.

So who are you, the world's opinion leader?
I, for my case, won't use Opera mini till my explained bug is fixed. I will just keep having it installed to get a notification when an update arrives.

So, great opinion holder, an update would definitely NOT be useless...

Originally posted by prd3:

Wrong.

Wrong.

Cannot start it, as many user I am block on the first loading page.
Since I am on my ipod touch cannot change network settings and cannot access opera configuration.
Well done people

PS try to disable my router firewall, no change...

Folks, please keep this thread clean from all kins of arguing There are people who seek help and others who try to help them.

Opera Mini will only keep a special folder synchronized - that is the "Opera Mini" folder. It'll automatically appear if you use an Opera Mini client and it'll get a special icon in your Desktop browser. Everything you put in there will show up in your mobile device.

It has full support for subfolders as well. Dragging a bookmark to the Opera Mini folder will automatically create a copy of it inside, so you don't need to reorder your normal bookmarks just to use it.

It is there to avoid having thousands of bookmarks you don't need, on a small mobile device.

I hope that clears it up a little.

Serola wrote
What are actually synchronized and how:
On Opera 10.* browser, all your Opera Mini 5 bookmarks should be displayed in 'Opera Mini' folder. However, for some reason developers decided not to show desktop bookmarks in the same way under Opera Mini 5 bookmarks. To use and edit your desktop bookmarks on Opera Mini 5, add either speed dial or bookmark for Opera Link like this:
http://my.opera.com/YOUR_ACCOUNT_NAME_HERE/account/link/bookmarks/

Thanks for trying to help but on my iPhone this is just a very, very slow work around. I would like to have the bookmarks actually sync onto the phone not have to use a web page link to my bookmarks on Opera link. Opera claims to be able to sync bookmarks to the iPhone using Opera link so hopefully this is being fixed because in its present state its broken and quite unusable IMHO. Sorry but back to Safari till this is fixed.

Opera Mini will only keep a special folder synchronized - that is the "Opera Mini" folder. It'll automatically appear if you use an Opera Mini client and it'll get a special icon in your Desktop browser. Everything you put in there will show up in your mobile device.

It has full support for subfolders as well. Dragging a bookmark to the Opera Mini folder will automatically create a copy of it inside, so you don't need to reorder your normal bookmarks just to use it.

It is there to avoid having thousands of bookmarks you don't need, on a small mobile device.

I hope that clears it up a little.

OK this is better but still a work around IMHO. Just adds another step, and takes up more space, small it may be.

Originally posted by TheAtilla:

Opera Mini will only keep a special folder synchronized - that is the "Opera Mini" folder. It'll automatically appear if you use an Opera Mini client and it'll get a special icon in your Desktop browser. Everything you put in there will show up in your mobile device.

It has full support for subfolders as well. Dragging a bookmark to the Opera Mini folder will automatically create a copy of it inside, so you don't need to reorder your normal bookmarks just to use it.

It is there to avoid having thousands of bookmarks you don't need, on a small mobile device.

I hope that clears it up a little.

I understand the logic there, but it would be nice to at least have the option to fully sync desktop bookmarks.

Check my post above, you don't need any workarounds to have your bookmarks synchronized with Opera Mini.

Horizontal rotation feature annoying when surfing the web on Iphone ?
I've been waiting a long time Opera! Very happy to be using Opera for surfing the web very quickly!
I usually enlist in bed surfing! But the feature turned off level could not be any!

So hope Opera will add features that allow horizontal or turning back along the individual preferences! - This is very much my friends also have questions and hope for a long time!
Sincere thanks!

1.jpg my imagination as the opera might look like

There is a problem with bookmarks synchronisation, because you cannot copy folders into Opera mini directory in Opera desktop!!! Opera mini is not very useful without this feature

Wow, I liked it. It's fast, looks nice and it's easy to use. BUT, the zooming thing is a disaster. It just doesn't work, and makes me dragging my self around a page just to even read the end of a sentence..! It need pinch zooming, or some other solution..cause if this ain't fixed I really don't think any of my friends or I will use it.

I was looking forward to this, but all in all I was surprised in a positive way. Just fix the zoom, and I will actually use it all the time. Fast..!

Alex, Norway

My review:

I've been waiting with publishing the long-promised update of my iPhone Web browsing bible since attending MWC in Barcelona two months ago where I saw Opera Mini, one of the best Web browsers on almost all alternative platforms, in action. I wanted to make sure Opera Mini is also included in the heavily updated roundup.

The waiting has turned out to be worth it – earlier today, Opera Mini has been approved for AppStore and it also made a debut in it (in both the US and international ones). I started testing it right away.

Below are my first thoughts. Please note that, in order to fully understand what I mean, you might want to check out all my past articles on iPhone (or, more generally, mobile-based) Web browsing. First the cons, then the pros and, finally, after two demo videos, the verdict.


Zoomed out

Zoomed in

Cons

• still no support for italic text – MAJOR DISADVANTAGE!
• in full screen mode, the topmost, 20-pixel-high ribbon is still visible and taking up screen estate, unlike the real(!) full screen mode of iCab Mobile
• still in full screen mode, the icons in the bottom left / right aren't hidden (unlike in, say, Opera Mobile on Windows Mobile); the transparency of them can't be set either, unlike in iCab Mobile 2.1+, where there's full transparency control meaning you can fully hide them.
• no simple open tab list to make the user be able to quickly see all the titles (& probably a mini-icon of the current page view) of the opened pages, unlike in iCab Mobile. With more than a handful of pages open, this would tremendously speed up switching between pages. (Nevertheless, the quick flipping through opened pages is pretty impressive; too bad their titles aren't shown while doing this and the icons aren't dynamically updated to show the current position inside the page. Closing a page is comparatively easy – all icons have a big „Close” cross on them.)
• no background opening of tabs – mass-opening Web pages (from e.g. a forum) takes a lot of time, unlike with browsers with background opening capabilities (e.g., iCab – but not Safari)
• only two zoom states - pinch-based zooming results in the same as double-tapping, there're no intermediate states
• no video plug-in, not even for YouTube, unlike in all WebKit-based browsers, which means you need to switch to them should you want to see any online videos. There isn't even a placeholder for (missing) videos showing the user he/she should switch – MAJOR DISADVANTAGE! (Note: as far as radio stations compatible with the built-in QuickTime and, therefore, accessible from inside Safari or iCab like the ones HERE (also see THIS all-in-one article), Opera Mini does pass execution to Safari, which passes it to QuickTime in turn – that is, „clickable” online streams like this are played back OK.)
• somewhat more unpleasant kinetic scrolling when scrolling only a small distance – it both stutters a bit while scrolling and stops somewhat abruptly, unlike native WebKit-based apps even on the iPhone 3GS. This effect is (because of the far slower hardware) is far more visible on older platforms like the iPhone 3G. Nevertheless, it's not THAT bad, not even on the iPhone 3G.
• page reload needed after an orientation switch to correctly align the zoomed-in state (as with most similar browsers like SkyFire, I should add)
• zoomed-out state conveys far less information than in WebKit-based apps – it only shows the outline of the page but is in no way readable
• no quick scrolling to the top of the page by tapping the topmost area of the page; no quick in-page positioning features and QuickScroll 2.0 doesn't work at all. Scriplets (see THIS) aren't supported either – MAJOR DISADVANTAGE!

Pros

• consumes far-far less data than anything WebKit-based – MAJOR ADVANTAGE! It's about as good, data usage-wise, than browsers supporting built-in Web compression services; for example, iCab Mobile with compression enabled. The latter, however, seriously degrades the visibility /readability of pages and renders a lot of them unable to load.
• Is far-far faster to load pages than anything WebKit-based, particularly over slow(er) and/or congested connections, but clearly visible even over fast connections and/or fast hardware – MAJOR ADVANTAGE!
• Almost no memory consumption. Tested with 30 (!) 600k pages (my traditional memoy benchmark pages – see the first two links HERE); this hasn't resulted in any kind of a memory problem, crash or mapped-out pages on even the RAM-restricted iPhone 3G – MAJOR ADVANTAGE! (Just a comparison: using WebKit-based browsers, the maximal number of these pages you can keep opened is between 5 and 10 on the 3G and about two times more on the 3G S.)
• it has not only in-page text search, but also „Next”, which is painfully missing from even the latest (3.0) beta of iCab Mobile, let alone Safari, which completely lacks in-page text search (unless you do install my find-in-page scriptlet also sporting „Next”). (Note that this can be easily fixed by the scriptlet HERE; see bullet 1 at the bottom for the scriptlet itself) – MAJOR ADVANTAGE
• as with Opera Mini on other platforms (see the row „Does it try to keep the same horizontal position while scrolling?” in the comparison & feature chart of my article FULL ROUNDUP: Browsing the Web on Windows Mobile just like on iPhone, incl. IEM6 review), it strives to maintain horizontal alignment while quick scrolling up and down zoomed-in. In this regard, it's far superior to Safari / iCab Mobile, which far easier get misaligned while quickly thumb-scrolling.
• absolutely no „dead space” while scrolling around, which is quite a pain with iCab Mobile, particularly on previous-generation iDevices (and to a much lesser degree with the, otherwise, pretty much inferior Safari) – MAJOR ADVANTAGE, particularly on slower platforms! Please see for example THIS (Safari) and THIS (iCab Mobile) for more info. As you can see, even Safari exhibits „dead space” while extensively scrolling on the iPhone 3G (on the right), let alone the, in this regard, definitely inferior iCab Mobile. The latter exhibits this problem even on the 3G S but to a much lesser degree.
• support for Opera Link (albeit „only” the mobile bookmarks are synchronized, not all of them). Unless you pay $100 annually for MobileMe, only offline (iTunes-based) synchronization exists for Safari. iCab Mobile is even worse in this respect. (Note: you can even sync Firefox bookmarks with MobileMe: Windows explanation; OS X. Through Safari (Mac OS) or IE (Windows), you can already sync to MobileMe and, via that, to Safari for the iPhone. Note that Xmarks doesn't natively sync to Safari on the iPhone; all it offers is online favorite Web-browsing, as is also offered by Opera Link's online Web interface.)

Demo Videos

I've made a demo video (click THIS) showing
- the lack of "dead screen content" while scrolling around
- the relative speed of the iPhone 3G and 3G S loading my standard 600k test suite: As you can see, even the (slow) 3G is blazingly fast at loading this huge page.
- the stuttering particularly visible with the (slow) 3G. Nevertheless, it could be worse - and, after all, you don't need to wait sometimes even a second or two for a "dead area" to become visible (which is quite often the case with scrolling around in iCab Mobile on slower iPhones).

There is another demo video I've made: THIS ONE shows how blazingly fast Opera Mini is to load the same huge page. It's, on the slowish iPhone 3G, waaaay faster than Safari running on the otherwise far(!) faster iPhone 3G S. The latter took about 22 seconds (!) to load the entire page; on the 3G, Opera Mini spent some 2-3 seconds at most. An order of magnitude faster - and, again, on a much slower hardware! On the much faster 3G S, it would have been even faster.

Verdict

While it does have some problems (e.g., lack of italic support), this browser is already very-very nice. A MUST download.

Hi, I just start using opera mini on my iPod Touch and I love it.

One small think that I discover, and I don't like is connected to wordpress.com
I am not sure if this is Opera problem, or wordpress need to set it, but I am sharing it anyway.

So wordpress.com has Mobile Themes for their blogs - http://en.support.wordpress.com/themes/mobile-themes/

Taking in consideration what device are you using wordpress will eater open in the fansy and shine new \WPtouch\ theme, or the old school ugly WordPress Mobile Edition theme.

The iPhone is more than capable of opening wordpress.com blogs so they are displaying in the WPtouch theme. The problem is that when veiling try opera the wordpress.com blogs are opening in the old WordPress Mobile Edition theme.

So here is the difference:
Opera Mini iPhone.jpg

Safari iPhone.jpg

My point is that it will be great if we can see the regular WPtouch, not in the old Mobile Edition... But I don't know who is responsible for this

Originally posted by giampi:

There is a problem with bookmarks synchronisation, because you cannot copy folders into Opera mini directory in Opera desktop!!! Opera mini is not very useful without this feature

Giampi, since the latest versions of our browsers, subfolders are supported and should work just fine.

I also find it ridiculously fast, and all in all welcomed! This is a great first step of getting Opera to iPhone, but I hope Opera won't stop there. I hope Opera will develop a more iPhoneish version of the Mini. Things I personally miss (some of them have been said before):

Launching:
- Takes 7s to launch, Safari takes 3s. Not a biggie though.
- Previous session sometimes not resumed. Haven't found a pattern, but playing around with Opera and Safari made that happen.

Zooming:
- Difficult to tap small link images, like in web forums.
- Zoom in not always optimal, should back up just a little. (To view web forum content AND posters' names on the side.)
- Pinch-zooming would completely solve all zooming issues. It could coexist with the current behaviour.
- Loading page in landscape mode and switching to portrait mode doesn't show the "Zoom out" button.
- Loading page in portrait and zooming in, then switching to landscape shows "Zoom out" button, but instead of zooming out it goes to previous page.

Scrolling:
- The view should lock horizontally when scrolling vertically.
- Quick way to access top (and bottom) of the page needed (in fullscreen mode also).
- View jerkiness: Scrolling stops too suddenly. Scrolling speed should come down more peacefully.
- When scrolling slowly, first the view doesn't scroll, then quickly jumps, then scrolls slowly. Disturbs reading a long text.
- Reaching the bottom, top or the edges could "bounce", like it does in other iPhone apps.

Typing:
- Spell checker nwwdwd vadly.

Searching:
- Reorganizing search engines would help.

Browsing:
- "Copy image address" option missing.
- "Copy link address" option missing.
- No .gif image support. I was very sad to notice this.
- Viewing an image, the box "Open..." opens the image in Safari. That wasn't expected.
- Viewing an image, the box "Zoom..." gives three download links (but didn't zoom). None of the links download or zoom, they open the image in Safari. That wasn't expected.
- Location of a page is not stored when resuming a session. This was a long page to scroll through again!
- Some pages work in Safari but not Opera. Example: www.presonus.com links at the bottom don't open, but focusing to the address bar and hitting "Open" does open the linked page. Safari can follow the links normally.
- Opera renders only few images: http://www.thomann.de/gb/active_nearfield_monitors.html . In Safari the images are rendered when scrolled to.

UI:
- Adding a bookmark, "Cancel" is at top right, "Add" on bottom left. Should be on the same line, or atleast coloured so that they can be seen.
- Adding a bookmark from fullscreen takes 6 taps. In Safari (no fullscreen mode) it takes 3.
- Closing a tab takes two taps on the red cross. It should be shown by blinking the red icon etc. I just kept waiting for the tab to close.
- Auto-rotation shouldn't go to 180°. Disabling upside-down position would make easier bed-time browsing.

That said, I will pay for a full Opera Mobile for iPhone, if these basic problems are fixed.

Using iPhone 3G 16GB, OS 3.1.

Originally posted by Rlieving:

I'd like to report an issue.

I had Opera Mini on my Nokia phone and it always had trouble when ampersands were not HTML encoded. (This happened at http://m.rmilk.com),

Now I have a password with an ampersand in it and Opera will not recognize the password as valid. Coincidence? Possibly. Is anyone else seeing issues with ampersands?

I'm also having trouble logging in to any site where I used special characters in the password. I'm not sure if this is a bug with just the iPhone version, or if it's a bigger problem that affects all versions of Opera Mini (it's been a while since I used Opera Mini on anything).

Originally posted by TheAtilla:

Originally posted by giampi:

There is a problem with bookmarks synchronisation, because you cannot copy folders into Opera mini directory in Opera desktop!!! Opera mini is not very useful without this feature

Giampi, since the latest versions of our browsers, subfolders are supported and should work just fine.

This is my Opera version, the last from the Desktop Team:
Version
10.52

Build
3347

Platform
Win32

System
Windows NT 6.1

And it doesn't work

Dragging bookmarks and/or folders to the Opera Mini link works but is still a work around. If you create a new bookmark while browsing in Opera and put it in a folder that you have also dragged to the Opera Mini link, it doesn't automatically show up in the Opera Mini link. You must manually place it there each time. Deleting bookmarks is the same issue. Please give us the choice of fully syncing or not.

i still have no clue how i'm supposed to sync my bookmarks, sorry if i'm a dimwit but i've read what you said and i'm still not understanding how to do it. i went to my opera link page>bookmarks and i see the opera mini folder, so i'm supposed to drag bookmarks from other folders into it? sorry if i'm doing it completely wrong but it's 2:30am and i am very, very tired so i'm struggling to think straight now. this is really annoying...if only it would just sync them all straight onto my ipod

For synchronization...

Option A: manage your bookmarks on desktop browser
On desktop Opera 10.50 save bookmarks and folders under 'Opera Mini'. Then these bookmarks should be seen directly also on Opera Mini. Do nootice the synchronization may take even a minute. On desktop Opera 10.50 you can add 'Opera Link' button on toolbar, an then click it to force synchronization manually. On Opera Mini 5 just wait awhile. If you see Opera Link icon blink on toolbars, then you know OM5 has synchronized.

Option B: use Opera Link to access all desktop bookmarks
In this option you don't have to care about putting shared bookmarks only under the 'Opera Mini' folder displayed on desktop browser. On Opera Mini 5 just add bookmark that has URL like this:

http://my.opera.com/YOUR_MYOPERA_ACCOUNT_NAME_HERE/account/link/bookmarks/

Or just login at http://link.opera.com/ and add it to your bookmarks on Opera Mini 5. There you can access all your desktop bookmarks.

I hope this help

I have been wanting a 3rd party browser since forever, Opera in particular. I'm happy Opera finally made the first move.

It's faster than Safari that's for sure. In fact, VERY. But it's not without its flaws - big ones.

For one, there is no auto-correction support if you're typing something (apart from the web address), and I rely on that heavily. Next, the web page doesn't load properly, in a sense that you can't read anything unless you actually zoom in. It's a little annoying. I actually want to see what I'm viewing before proceeding to zooming; saves time. Then, there's the bad case of word wrapping (see image below; last image is from another forum I visit): it's truly a mess. I'm a heavy forum user, and it kills me that I have to scroll so much more than I did in Safari, thanks to the not-so clever word wrapping system. I mean, 10 words per line (or so)? It's aggravating. There's also the lack of YouTube player integration; when I click on a YouTube link, it only brings me to the mobile YouTube site unlike in Safari where it'll launch the YouTube app and play the video.

However, the worst issue above all those mentioned is the fact that the page will not load at all after I've clicked on a link like even more than twice! Sure, the bar will show that the site is loading. But after it's loaded, it just stays on the same page. WTH.

So far these are the only gripes I have on Opera. And it has earned a spot on my iPhone's home page. But if I had the option to displace Safari for Opera, would I do it? Nah, never.. The fact that it's made by Apple to work specially for the iPhone/iPod touch, it has and will always be my ultimate web browser for my iPhone.

I'm really looking forward to the next software update.

See the difference for yourselves:

Originally posted by serola:

For synchronization...

Option A: manage your bookmarks on desktop browser
On desktop Opera 10.50 save bookmarks and folders under 'Opera Mini'. Then these bookmarks should be seen directly also on Opera Mini. Do nootice the synchronization may take even a minute. On desktop Opera 10.50 you can add 'Opera Link' button on toolbar, an then click it to force synchronization manually. On Opera Mini 5 just wait awhile. If you see Opera Link icon blink on toolbars, then you know OM5 has synchronized.

Option B: use Opera Link to access all desktop bookmarks
In this option you don't have to care about putting shared bookmarks only under the 'Opera Mini' folder displayed on desktop browser. On Opera Mini 5 just add bookmark that has URL like this:

http://my.opera.com/YOUR_MYOPERA_ACCOUNT_NAME_HERE/account/link/bookmarks/

Or just login at http://link.opera.com/ and add it to your bookmarks on Opera Mini 5. There you can access all your desktop bookmarks.

I hope this help

thank you! all good now!

I agree completely that Mini is crazy fast (even on my outdated iPod Touch 1G). Zoom is the most obvious area of improvement for me, but I generally love it (esp. tabs and Speed Dial).

Are you saying there is supposed to be an "Opera Mini" folder under "Bookmarks" in Opera Desktop? I can't find it.

Originally posted by serola:

For synchronization...

Option A: manage your bookmarks on desktop browser
On desktop Opera 10.50 save bookmarks and folders under 'Opera Mini'. Then these bookmarks should be seen directly also on Opera Mini. Do nootice the synchronization may take even a minute. On desktop Opera 10.50 you can add 'Opera Link' button on toolbar, an then click it to force synchronization manually. On Opera Mini 5 just wait awhile. If you see Opera Link icon blink on toolbars, then you know OM5 has synchronized.

Option B: use Opera Link to access all desktop bookmarks
In this option you don't have to care about putting shared bookmarks only under the 'Opera Mini' folder displayed on desktop browser. On Opera Mini 5 just add bookmark that has URL like this:

http://my.opera.com/YOUR_MYOPERA_ACCOUNT_NAME_HERE/account/link/bookmarks/

Or just login at http://link.opera.com/ and add it to your bookmarks on Opera Mini 5. There you can access all your desktop bookmarks.

I hope this help

Originally posted by twentw:

Are you saying there is supposed to be an "Opera Mini" folder under "Bookmarks" in Opera Desktop? I can't find it.

Then have you already took the Opera Link synchronization into use on your desktop Opera 10.* browser? Check that you have followed these instructions at stage three:

Originally posted by EspenAO:

Go to Tools > Opera Link Synchronization > Enable Synchronization. Choose what kind of browser data you want to synchronize in the Options dialog and log in. Your data should now be synchronized and live in the Opera Link Web UI

my biggest gripe, google reader does not render as it is supposed to, safari renders it perfectly ok, this should be fixed asap.

I can't find "Tools > Opera Link Synchronization > Enable Synchronization". I did find the red menu in the upper left corner > Synchronize Opera > Configure, and it's set to "Enable Opera Link".

Originally posted by serola:

Originally posted by twentw:

Are you saying there is supposed to be an "Opera Mini" folder under "Bookmarks" in Opera Desktop? I can't find it.

Then have you already took the Opera Link synchronization into use on your desktop Opera 10.* browser? Check that you have followed these instructions at stage three:

Originally posted by EspenAO:

Go to Tools > Opera Link Synchronization > Enable Synchronization. Choose what kind of browser data you want to synchronize in the Options dialog and log in. Your data should now be synchronized and live in the Opera Link Web UI

Finally, I successful synchronize my bookmarks. But I agree with this remark

Originally posted by mtbgtr:

Dragging bookmarks and/or folders to the Opera Mini link works but is still a work around. If you create a new bookmark while browsing in Opera and put it in a folder that you have also dragged to the Opera Mini link, it doesn't automatically show up in the Opera Mini link. You must manually place it there each time. Deleting bookmarks is the same issue. Please give us the choice of fully syncing or not.

Originally posted by twentw:

I did find the red menu in the upper left corner > Synchronize Opera > Configure, and it's set to "Enable Opera Link".

What version of desktop Opera you have? And when you enabled Opera Link on desktop Opera browser, nothing happened, or what happened? Visit Opera Link at http://my.opera.com/twentw/account/link/bookmarks/ and check if you can see your bookmarks there.

EDIT: Folks, sorry if my advices aren't clear. There are so many new users around here and it's difficult to "teach new users to ride a bike". Those who have used to Opera Mini since version 4 have more or less used to Opera Link synchronization, so it's difficult to explain it for someone who uses it for the first time. I also recommend you to read my Bookmark survival kit.

I'm using 10.51, build 3315 (just downloaded today). I did find the Tools menu after enabling the menu bar. What is supposed to happen when I enable Opera LinK? I can see my bookmarks on the Opera Link website, so I know it's working. It's just not syncing with the iPhone.

I tried creating an "Opera Mini" folder and putting my bookmarks in that, but that still doesn't work.

Originally posted by serola:

Originally posted by twentw:

I did find the red menu in the upper left corner > Synchronize Opera > Configure, and it's set to "Enable Opera Link".

What version of desktop Opera you have? And when you enabled Opera Link on desktop Opera browser, nothing happened, or what happened? Visit Opera Link at http://my.opera.com/twentw/account/link/bookmarks/ and check if you can see your bookmarks there.

EDIT: Folks, sorry if my advices aren't clear. There are so many new users around here and it's difficult to "teach new users to ride a bike". Those who have used to Opera Mini since version 4 have more or less used to Opera Link synchronization, so it's difficult to explain it for someone who uses it for the first time. I also recommend you to read my Bookmark survival kit.

Originally posted by twentw:

Are you saying there is supposed to be an "Opera Mini" folder under "Bookmarks" in Opera Desktop? I can't find it.

You have to add bookmarks in OperaMini (synchronized) client first to create the Mini folder in your MyOpera account , then you'd be able to manage it , in OperaMini you can create even folders (Mini subfolders in your MyOpera account)

Originally posted by twentw:

What is supposed to happen when I enable Opera LinK?

Once you have enabled Opera Link on both, on desktop Opera browser, and on Opera Mini, then on desktop Opera you should see this:

Folder called ' Opera Mini' under your bookmarks and it has Opera Link icon. Is that not the case?

Hi
I can't get it to work neither

I installed it multiple times and I always get the white screen of death with the wheel spinning forever.

I am trying to use it on iPod Touch 3g with jailbreak.

The 1080 and 80 port are enabled on my router so it shouldn't have problems.

Anybody has been able to solve this problem?

Thanks

Not that it's not already mentioned, but the zoom is just horrible. And I'm not even asking for multitouch, but rather a more sensible (and adjustable) standard zoom level. With the current settings most sites are unreadable when you're not zoomed in, and you can't even make out larger titles on news publications. This means you have to zoom in to search around for what you're looking for, rendering the overview useless. The zoom is a problem with Opera Mini on all big screen phones I've used.

As for the multitouch, I'm not a fan myself as I prefer good one finger browsing, but why not just include it to shut people up, because that's all I hear when I try to promote Opera Mini, for any touch device, on forums or otherwise.

Anybody face a problem of getting it to run on 3G network? I can't seem to get it run whenever switching to 3G. On WiFi, it can run very well without any problem. Once on 3G, the wheel spin for a long time and ending later with network problem error message which is odd because there is not network issue.

I was referred from another thread by Serola because I too was having problems with sync.

I must say, that after reading this thread, I am no closer to getting sync to work than I was before. I still can't find the Opera Mini folder.

Having wasted the entire afternoon on this process, I'm giving up. Perhaps someday it will work without having to jump through hoops, but as currently conceived, the syncing process is just too painful. It's stuff like this that turns people off to products.

It should just work. Period.

I hope someone having troubles with Opera Link on Opera Mini 5 for iPhone find time to fill in the bug report wizard. I'm puzzled why some folks have no problem at all, and then some of you just can't make it work.

I cannot log into gmail using Opera on an Itouch. I can log in fine to the same gmail account using Sarfari and no problem from the desktop. But trying from Opera Mini I get "username or Password incorrect" no matter how many times I have tried it. (I know I am a bad typist but as many times as I tried I should have got it right once.)

I've been using an Opera for a whole day today. My conclusion:

Like:
Speed (on Wifi: loads sites from web server on the same network 3-4 times faster, than Safari).
The way Opera looks.
Opera features (Link, Speed dial).

Dislike:
Zoom and scrolling (it's simply terrible!).
Lots of the websites are rendered incorrectly (even those that passed all W3C validation procedures, for example - sites made with Joomla)
Websites with self-signed SSL certificates won't work.
Opera start-up time.
That the is no ability to switch between rows when filling the form on a website (for example - try to login to Gmail, you will also miss the "Go" button after you'll enter your password).

Originally posted by serola:

Originally posted by twentw:

What is supposed to happen when I enable Opera LinK?

Once you have enabled Opera Link on both, on desktop Opera browser, and on Opera Mini, then on desktop Opera you should see this:

Folder called ' Opera Mini' under your bookmarks and it has Opera Link icon. Is that not the case?

I can't find anything like that picture. How are you getting there? Is it Bookmarks Menu > Manage Bookmarks?

First of all, some people seem to hate the lack of flexibility in the zoom. Granted I have not tried many pages yet, but I kind of like how it just seems to zoom to the appropriate level. (maybe I was just lucky). I suppose the option would be good to have though, maybe as a gesture setting or something.

Some pages don't look nearly as nice as in Safari. ESPN.com is a good example. Is there something in General you can do to fix this, or alternatively, will you be keeping some sort of database of the most popular sites that you can "template" for, to make sure they look good? I'm sure if you can get the top 200 sites on the internet to appear flawless, very few people would have much to complain about...

This morning, one page did not load, and worked fine in Safari, maybe just a fluke, or servers overloaded after releasing this to iPhone?

Overall, extremely happy about the app - it makes it much easier to surf the pages I normally look at, and the responsiveness with both the zoom and moving around seem good to me. Load speed is great when it works!

Tried it out for a few hours and i like it a lot. Hopefully next update will fix the following bugs:

- autocorrect is disabled when typing anywhere!!! Writing this post now in opera mini and its a bitch to type!!!

- lack of pinch to zoom and only two zoom levels (on or off) is a fail

- youtube links do not work

- vertical scrolling is buggy and drifts left to right very easily

- no next or previous buttons when filling out forms

- when flipping between landscape and portrait view, you must manually hit refresh to make the page render properly, unlike in safari whete its automatic

- tapping statusb bar should bring you to top of page, not the red title bar below it. Thats the way safari and other apps work, and besides if you switch to full screen mode you have no title bar anymore!

- i would like a full screen view to be one of the bottom buttons, not buried within settings. Also i would like the mobile view option to be site-specific and not a global setting

Other than that im quite pleased with having an alternative to safari and will certainly be following this app's development

Thank you kindly for the info on how to sync the bookmarks to the iPhone (3GS user). I tried creating a folder, but that didn't seem to help; however it did work once i created a bookmark on the phone. It is a bit of a drawback that if i were to add a bookmark i have to add it to two sources, but not that big of a deal. however it is nice that if you were to add a bookmark on your phone, you at least the access to the link on the desktop.

as far as the zooming goes, I too am kinda sad that the zooming is uncontrollable.

the lack of tap to top of page is an annoyance

no auto-correct is a pain

the lack of a "sync now" or "re-sync" button in the application is quite a pain, to re-sync you have to log out and then log back in.

embedded youtube and vimeo videos do not work at all, not even a link associated with the video

-- all in all though, I will probably be using this over safari once a few of the bugs get worked out; the speed is incredible.

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For desktop browsing, I am having an issue with scrolling and it not rendering embedded vimeo videos correctly; whenever i scroll the video distorts.

Originally posted by twentw:

Originally posted by serola:

Originally posted by twentw:

What is supposed to happen when I enable Opera LinK?

Once you have enabled Opera Link on both, on desktop Opera browser, and on Opera Mini, then on desktop Opera you should see this:

Folder called ' Opera Mini' under your bookmarks and it has Opera Link icon. Is that not the case?

I can't find anything like that picture. How are you getting there? Is it Bookmarks Menu > Manage Bookmarks?

this is what i do....disable Opera Link on ur iphone....create any bookmark folder (etc music, news) and put 1 URL bookmark on that folder...enable Opera Link...and its will sync..than u can find the green OperaMini bookmark folder on ur Opera Desktop...than manage or ur bookmark on ur Opera Desktop, and all the bookmark will sync to ur Phone...

www.afl.com.au just produces a white screen in Opera Mini on iPhone. Works fine in Safari.
It would also be nice if it loaded iPhone optimized version of pages e.g. www.livescore.com

So, know that feature where when you hold your finger down on a link for a few seconds, a menu of options pops up? Right now there's stuff like "open in new tab" and "select text".

It would be awesome if "open in Safari" and "copy URL" became options on that menu. Sometimes a particular URL doesn't look quite right within Opera, and I want to check how Safari renders it. And sometimes I want to copy a URL so that I can for example paste it into a Twitter client.

*cough*Omnibar*cough*

I will repost what I wrote in another thread:

I was really excited to finally install opera mini on my iPhone, however, once i started surfing my fav websites I found out this things that really buggers me.

Take for example Italian newspaper Repubblica's website www.repubblica.it

if i open that address in Safari it automatically redirects to the iPhone optimized version iphone.repubblica.it/iphone
but if i open it in Opera mini it displays the pc version of the site, while if i enter directly the address "iphone.repubblica.it/iphone" it redirects me to the mobile version m.repubblica.it/mobile ....
That's seriously a bummer, how can i see the iPhone optimized version???
The same thing also happens for other websites, like Yahoo Japan for example...

Since all the navigation goes through the Opera servers maybe something could be done to prevent this redirecting and display the page one wants to see. I'd like to be able to choose the website version I want.


Also:
It would be nice to be able to swap the speed dial sites order just by touching and dragging them, just like it happens with the desktop version. As it is now one has to delete the two sites from both positions and re-enter them again.

Lastly:
To all those who complained about the zooming.. I read on several forums that the "pinch to zoom" thing is and Apple-apps exclusive and can't be used in 3rd party apps. Maybe the guys at Opera can correct me if I'm wrong, but if i'm not then i don't see Safari-like zooming coming to Opera mini anytime soon... Blame Apple.

Opera mini is one of the best browsers out there, and I am extremely happy that Apple approved it.

There is, however, one bug: For some reason it is impossible to log-in into any website when the password contains special characters like #, $, or ! . As some of my passwords contain these characters, Opera mini becomes unusable for me. Please fix this. (Passwords containing only letters/ numbers work fine)

Hey guys, just wondering if anyone else i having problems with certain sites like my bank, and if anyone is looking into it?

Now I found out why it doesn't load website using 3G connection. One must choose HTTP protocol instead of socket connection - (Go to setting -> Advanced -> Protocol -> Choose HTTP)

Turns out that choosing 'socket connection', Opera Mini will keep an open connection to the Opera Mini servers. That means pages will load quicker, and the Opera Mini servers can push updates (for e.g new bookmarks through Opera Link) directly to Opera Mini on the phone. But choosing 'http connection', Opera Mini has to establish a connection to the Opera Mini servers every time you load a page. New
updates to Opera Mini will also not be pushed to the phone until a new page is loaded.

As not all phone models and mobile networks allow socket connections. However using WiFi, running socket connection does not give any problem.

As with many posters, I'm unable to use Opera as it starts with a white screen and a spinning wheel only. Using my 3Gs in a wifi network.

Disabling anything in the router defeats the purpose for a mobile device, don't you think.

Opera Mini -> Deleted

This article here says using secure sites like Internet Banking for e.g may not be secure as it goes thru Opera's server.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20100413/tc_pcworld/securityconcernswithoperaminibrowserforiphone

Dear Opera,
you have made a pretty good mobile browser, but a few things really annoy me.

I posted an image on reddit expressing my frustration to the fact that the tool bars are too big (another poster told me about the fullscreen option) and when I hold the iphone upside down the browser spins to right side up instead of staying in landscape mode. That is really annoying when I look at the opera on my iPhone while lying on my side on the couch or in bed, it spins to upright.

Here is the snarky post about it on reddit *warning* profanity
http://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/bqgcq/dear_opera_you_have_made_a_pretty_good_mobile/

One kind poster had much better constructive criticism.
Some of my deal breakers:
Spankwire doesn't let me download videos in mp4 format, it makes me download in 3gp, and even then it redirects me to safari..

CAN'T WATCH GIFS! WTF? It takes me to some download page sh*t and then makes me open it in safari..

No auto correct! WTF! Seriously! Maybe I'm just spoiled by safari knowing what I want to spell.. But opera mini really really needs to have auto correct, heck even ireddit app does and ireddit is lacking alot of features..

Another thing that really makes me mad is the little 'recommend to friends' thing on the browser.. Seriously I can see this happening in a game or cool app, but I already get enough advertisements from webpages, I don't need to be sold anything and certainly don't want it embedded into my browser..

Another feature I use in safari alot is the 'email link' feature.. Where is it?!?
I also didn't see a visible 'refresh' button, I had to click on the bar and re-hit enter on the keyboard, when a page of mine got closed down to save memory..

Also, you can't tap the status bar and make it go to the top of the page.

And what the hell do we have to press back twice to go back to the last page, if I'm zoomed in? Yeah, it's faster then safari but having to press it once to zoom out. And then again to actually go back is really annoying..

And finally, the incomplete zooming in feature, that only zooms in at weird preset intervals..



and
...that red bar has got to go. Colorblind designer, much?

What can I say.. I love it at iPhone..

Zoom could be better.. But Speed is great.. Cant wait updates.. This will be great product.. When get home I need check out that Opera link and sync my bookmarks..

ok, so here are my test results :

First of all, nice speed !

But a lot of problems make it unusable for me :

- The “either whole page or 100% zoom” limitation :
Page is totally unreadable when zoomed out… While on safari, there’s font anti-aliasing making it possible.
The inability to zoom freely makes it totally impossible to click on some very small stuff like the usual “Page 1,2,3,….9,10,11” stuff on forums.. you wanna click on ‘2’.. good luck with that ! ( On safari, all I have to do is to pinch zoom (a lot) on that 1,2,3 so that I can comfortably click on the number I want )
The fact that, when trying to zoom (moving the 2 fingers apart) it zooms out to the whole page mode is very disturbing…

-Weird clicking behavior : I really experienced difficulties clicking on some (regular sized) checkboxes.. dunno why…
-Scrolling :
Doesn’t detect purely horizontal / vertical scroll and then lock on those direction… especially when trying to follow some line-aligned or column-aligned information… very disturbing
The scroll behaves weirdly regarding its speed : If you scroll slowly it works fine, but if you have a 3-screens wide page, and try to scroll to the far right using a fast motion on the finger to “give speed” to the document, it will start ok, but will stop abruptly in the middle of the page instead of going on and slowly loosing its inertia like it does on every other iPhone app.. that, also, is quite disturbing.

- Zoom, is better in safari.
- Fonts, better in Safari
- No RSS feed list!
- javascript on pages is clunky to use. For js heavy pages I still prefer Safari.
- slower than safari on Wifi (due to proxy server render delay?)
- some pages look darn strange in Opera Mini but perfect on Safari.

+ fast on UMTS / 3G / EDGE
+ Back button works with cache
+ Its opera on my iPhone!
+ Save pages locally
+ Enjoy web more especially web forums. they are a pain on Safari due to no back button cache.
+ Great find in page function.
+Full screen mode


Minor stuff: As someone else suggested, autotoggle between med/low res on cellular data and hi res on wifi. It makes sense you know
Interface is not so nice as native OS X for iPhone.

Originally posted by TheAtilla:

Giampi, since the latest versions of our browsers, subfolders are supported and should work just fine.

TheAtilla, it doesn't work for me: The option to create a subfolder in the green "Opera Mini" folder is disabled on desktop. If I try to drag a folder into "Opera Mini", it doesn't work either ("no entry" sign).

Why does it work for some people and not for others?

Confused...

I'm a bit confused about the speed.. sometimes it's fast, sometimes it's incredibly slow...
For instance, I tried to open www.gamespot.com (the full site, not the iPhone version) :

Opera Mini : 26 seconds !
Safari : 15 seconds !

I've experienced similar result using many websites ( using 3G, not tested using wifi )

1- The network setting is socked by defult >>>> it shoud be http

2- the Arabic latters are not conected to each other

3- its not moving to the first of the page when i click on the title bar

But the main problem is the Arabic support

Nice Browser but:

all dropdown menu doesn't work. For example Page 1 or Page 2.

I'm experiencing huge problems with communities using java script.

Messages are sent without the text typed in the text box above, messages are not sent at all: Pressing "Send" just reloads the current page without sending the actual message).

I also dislike not being able to have my text auto corrected.

Greetings from Germany.

I don't own or use an iPhone but I'm glad to know that Apple has approved Opera Mini for the iPhone.

I stumbled on this article today…
"Opera Mini for iPhone reviewed (Speed isn't everything)"
http://www.thinq.co.uk/reviews/2010/4/14/opera-mini-for-iphone-reviewed

Originally posted by Andreonline:

See the difference for yourselves:

Go to the opera:config site and disable Fit text to screen option.

Interface in Opera Mini is the same on all platforms, and this is very good. The only thing they could add is themes support so everyone would be happy.

I have a problem, a pretty strange one: once I active opera-link I am not anymore able to write an url in the address bar.
Everytime I tap on the address bar to insert an url, there appears a pop-up with "copy" and "paste" option. No way of using the address bar even if disabling opera link, the only way is to uninstall opera mini and then reinstall it without turning operalink on.

Any suggestion?

Same problem, bookmarks do not sync. Can find them in my opera, so upload from my PC did work.

EDIT: now HALF of my bookmarks appear in Opera mini. How is that? On my Opera they are complete. Any idea?

I love it, cause the page load times are significantly faster than Safari, but the overall feel of the app is quite not the way I wanted it - it's sluggish and there is no multi-touch and copy/paste support.

here's another review…
Review: Opera Mini for iPhone different, not exactly better
http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2010/04/review-opera-mini-for-iphone-different-not-exactly-better.ars

I am happy to have an alternative to Safari and I am excited about the idea of syncing with my desktop Opera installations. (Which has worked perfectly and a wonderful feature... thank you). Linking with the iphone is awkward, however. I don't want an Opera Mini folder on my desktop that I have to manage separately, and besides that I then have to enter bookmarks in TWO places on my desktop just to be sure it gets back to the iphone. I want my iphone bookmarks to integrate with my desktop and vice versa.

Have also found that auto linking from Opera Mini is broken. Will only update if I turn off Opera Link, then turn it on again, along with entering name and password. The other method described above adding the myopera account into speed dial is a work around but very tedious. Much refinement needed here, but the concept is a great one.

Big missing tool... nearly a fatal omission in my view, is the inability to send links via email.

Like others, not too impressed with the zooming.

Very much looking forward to the next rev!

Phone number detection works okay but I've seen several instances where it does not recognize a phone number and turn it into a call link.

For those still struggling with bookmark sync, I had to create a link in Mini. Then shut down desktop Opera and re-open. Then I got the Opera Mini folder in bookmarks. Copied some folders too it, but still no sync to Mini. Then turned off sync in Mini and re-enabled and then it all started working.

I do agree that copying bookmarks to a separate folder is not "syncing" with the phone. It just gives a way to "manage" bookmarks via a PC.

Lacks:

-email page link (I use this very often);
- spellcheck;
- scroll lock - hard to scroll pages;
- URL preview for links in text or on images.

Also, it would be very good to have an option to save all pages automatically (up to some threshold, maybe).

It completely breaks any JS interactivity in the page, but that's I guess thanks to Apple's idiocity.

Love the browser! Thank you =)

Wish list

• Scroll bar or some other way to quickly access the top and bottom of a page
• Ability to save files such as pictures or zips and to export these files to desktop
• Ability to save a Home Page and an option whether to load the last visited page or this Home Page or the Start Page when browser starts
• Ability to add search engines
• Drag and drop for the icons on the Start Page
• If possible tighter integration with iphone- i.e. selection as default browser, Home Screen and Mail Link functions (I realise this is probably limited by Apple but one can hope)

Suggestions

• Move the reload button to the left of the address bar
• Instead of having the <-- and --> buttons, use tap-hold-swipe left on the left edge of the screen and tap-hold-swipe right on the right edge of the screen to move back and forward one page.
• Use the buttons on the lower menu for commonly accessed functions like Bookmarks, Saved Pages and Start Page

Originally posted by revanmj:

Go to the opera:config site and disable Fit text to screen option.

Should be off by default or in the normal settings. opera:config is not a userfriendly way of setting up the browser.

Where is the Feeds folder?

I see it inside the Bookmarks menu in Opera Mini 5 on my N95 but nothing on my iPhone.

I can't understand all the complaints about zooming. It definitely works differently than Safari, and that's a good thing. The initial page display isn't supposed to be readable. You need to touch want you want to zoom to. I find this much faster and more intuitive than Safari. It doesn't always zoom perfectly, but the fast speed makes up for that.

At last the mini browser is here but a few issues. Its missing the safari functionality to go along with the new stuff from opera. One thing I use safari a lot for is BBC iplayer which doesnt work on opera mini.

Well no one has asked the question; but,.....
Based on the comment about not being able to see anything on YouTube and since Apple will not support Flash natively, does Mini happen to have Flash support baked into the applet?

If not has any thought been given to baking it into Mini (V next)?

Works fine so far. Syncing bookmarks however does not work for me.

• You should add "iPhone" somewhere in the UA-String so developers and statistics companies can detect in which system Opera Mini is running and give it the "correct version" of the website / show iPhone in the right place in statistics. I know that this wouldn't be good for "Open the Web" thing because developers would still giving different versions of their websites for iPhone and other OSs users but not making that would make statistics even more unreliable...
• So..., everyone is talking about the "different" zooming thing and the way Opera renders the text to fit to the screen when zoomed in (I think these two things should stay as it is).
• People are also frustrated about Opera Mini doesn't fit the page to the screen when rotating the iPhone, that should change: there should be a message like: "the orientation changed, reload the page to fit to the screen?".
• Opera Link isn't working well, make the folder "More Bookmarks" works!

That's all, congratulations on being approved in the AppStore!

Sometimes when I open Opera Mini, the tabs from last session are still open and sometimes they are all gone. I haven't figured out what triggers the difference. Should open tabs always remain after closing and re-opening app??

Two immediate problems for me

1) I can not get bookmarks to sync with my account.
2) We need to be able to double tap the top display bar to quickly get back to the top of the page. This works in just about every other browser.

Like Opera for iPhone so far but totally hate the uber big title bar which stays there all the time.

Would love to see iOpera something like this.

Originally posted by Jenne22:

Like Opera for iPhone so far but totally hate the uber big title bar which stays there all the time.

Would love to see iOpera something like this.

+1 It's a Good idea!

Originally posted by Andreonline:

Then, there's the bad case of word wrapping (see image below; last image is from another forum I visit): it's truly a mess.

No, it's better because now the text fits your screen exactly, meaning no horizontal scrolling. And you only need to touch the screen once to zoom into perfectly wrapped text.

Originally posted by Jenne22:

Like Opera for iPhone so far but totally hate the uber big title bar which stays there all the time.

You can switch to Fullscreen to get rid of it.
The downside is that you totally loose the ability to get to the top quickly, as OM doesn't work like all the other iPhone apps which take you to the top when you click the top header bar (with clock, battery indicator etc.)

Originally posted by Blackmerlin:

Nice Browser but:

all dropdown menu doesn't work. For example Page 1 or Page 2.

yup - neither do those of http://www.dpreview.com/ - unlike in anything WebKit-based on the same iPhone

Originally posted by Menneisyys:

Originally posted by Blackmerlin:

Nice Browser but:

all dropdown menu doesn't work. For example Page 1 or Page 2.

yup - neither do those of http://www.dpreview.com/ - unlike in anything WebKit-based on the same iPhone

exactly, that's one of the most annoying thing in Opera Mini in any platform, a "crucial" difference from Opera Mobile in everyday browsing...

BEST THING EVER, goodbye Safari (if only Apple would let me delete it).

The black background on the home screen icon needs to be grey speckled to match the static bottom bar where your most-loved apps go. :-)

A few issues I noticed...

Start Page uses wrong user-agent to grab screen shots and links, bypassing site's mobile detection. (Already reported as a bug)

Text sizes render larger than all other browsers causing fixed size areas to become crowded.

Simple javascript hide/shows reload entire page and take a long time at that.

Without being able to import my bookmarks quickly and simply using Opera Link Opera Mini on the iPhone is a complete non-starter as far as I'm concerned. And as for the ridiculous workaround....forget it. What a basic flaw. Bookmarks in Opera Mini are not even in alphabetical order. The whole bookmark problem is one big dog's dinner and makes the browser unusable for me on the iPhone. I'm no Apple fanboy, but Apple's Safari browser has been far better thought through for user interaction when compared to Opera Mini for the iPhone. Safari is logical, bookmarks are imported without any problem and zooming works beautifully. Opera Mini is a nightmare to use, I now have no easy access to any of my bookmarks in a sensible alphabetical list and zooming is hopeless. This is not what I want on my mobile 'phone. It's hopeless.

Safari on the iPhone is far superior at this point. Bookmarks imported without any fuss or annoying workaround. I've aleady removed Opera Mini from my iPhone and can't recommend it to anyone.

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

Originally posted by Menneisyys:

Originally posted by Blackmerlin:

Nice Browser but:

all dropdown menu doesn't work. For example Page 1 or Page 2.

yup - neither do those of http://www.dpreview.com/ - unlike in anything WebKit-based on the same iPhone

exactly, that's one of the most annoying thing in Opera Mini in any platform, a "crucial" difference from Opera Mobile in everyday browsing...

The dropdown menus at the top of the camera reviews at http://www.dpreview.com/ work for me in Opera Mini 5 Beta for Android. I wonder what's different about OM on the iPhone that makes it not work?

Hello, finally I'm using Opera mini on my iTouch, I'm glad for it, but I'm discovering many bugs, so I'll wait till version 5.5 or 6 to see if these problems are fixed, hope at that time all features work fine. Rgds.

Hi ManneS, thanks for the blog. Thanks to all the users above who provide the positive points, as I agree with most of them! Opera is killing it in Apple's App Store, but the most important feature people like is totally against Opera's standards.

Serola, thanks for the instructions.... but. As for Opera LInk feature, Im not having luck with it at all...

Originally posted by serola:

Option A: manage your bookmarks on desktop browser

On desktop Opera 10.50 save bookmarks and folders under 'Opera Mini'. Then these bookmarks should be seen directly also on Opera Mini. Do nootice the synchronization may take even a minute. On desktop Opera 10.50 you can add 'Opera Link' button on toolbar, an then click it to force synchronization manually. On Opera Mini 5 just wait awhile. If you see Opera Link icon blink on toolbars, then you know OM5 has synchronized.

This method never syncs any folder in my Opera Mini bookmarks from my desktop. When I bookmark in Mini, it also never syncs back to the Mini Bookmarks on desktop.

Originally posted by serola:

Option B: use Opera Link to access all desktop bookmarks

In this option you don't have to care about putting shared bookmarks only under the 'Opera Mini' folder displayed on desktop browser. On Opera Mini 5 just add bookmark that has URL like this:

http://my.opera.com/YOUR_MYOPERA_ACCOUNT_NAME_HERE/account/link/bookmarks/

Or just login at http://link.opera.com/ and add it to your bookmarks on Opera Mini 5. There you can access all your desktop bookmarks.

I do as you instructed, but the bookmark page never refreshes, therefore I cannot bookmark it. When I log into opera link on desktop and click bookmarks, I cannot see anything.


WTF does Opera not have FAQ that has any trouble shooting tips? If Opera wanted iPhone market share so badly, I would think they would prepare a bit better.

Cheers!

I wish the browser was default rather than safari. How to change that? must be a trick

With Opera Mini on these Forums I get the mobile site. If I switch to the full site, the text is always too broad for my iPod touch display, meaning I have to scroll...

The fact that Opera mini apparently now identifies as an iPhone browser breaks for example www.kicker.de who detect that I'm using the iPhone/iPod touch and offers to take me to the iPhone-application they offer. Regardless of whether I press "ok" or "cancel", the site won't open in Opera Mini and the "address" shown in the address bar is "dlgbtn:2". This site worked in Opera Mini before.

Originally posted by godamajin:

I wish the browser was default rather than safari. How to change that? must be a trick

You can't, Apple doesn't gives that option to the users...

Originally posted by bhgrahmann:

Sometimes when I open Opera Mini, the tabs from last session are still open and sometimes they are all gone. I haven't figured out what triggers the difference. Should open tabs always remain after closing and re-opening app??

Anybody else have issue of session not being saved? I can get past some of the quirky rendering and minimal javascript for the most part, but always losing my open tabs is really bad. Are open tabs supposed to always stay?? Can somebody from Opera comment?

Originally posted by bhgrahmann:

Sometimes when I open Opera Mini, the tabs from last session are still open and sometimes they are all gone. I haven't figured out what triggers the difference. Should open tabs always remain after closing and re-opening app??

I guess the tabs shouldn't remain. Maybe you aren't actually closing Opera Mini, maybe you are just "minimizing" it, that's why the tabs are remaining.

After using it or few day..i notice Problem to entering password on certain website...i cant enter my password on m.myspace.com, guys4men.com...opera keep refreshing when i tap the password box.

So far i really like it...it do save me a lot of my data usage which i only got 500mb per month...hope the update can release asap!

Concerning socket connection

I love Opera mini with iPhone and Nokia. Thank you for Opera mini team.

By the way, I've got quite aggrieved by socket connection of Opera mini for iPhone.
It doesn't connect at all when socket is chosen by the protocol setting or be unstable even if it sometimes connects.
I cannot judge whether it is a problem of firewall or a problem of Opera mini for iPhone.
However, my NOKIA doesn't have the problem in socket at all. It is very fast and it is comfortable.
Though I use the http connection in iPhone,I am dissatisfied because it is slower than the socket connection of Nokia.

Please give some advice to me.

Wonderful job, thanks, guys! It's functional, fast and good-looking.

When the iPlayer and zooming are fixed I'll have no more use for Safari.

Just my two cents... browser is crazy fast... love this speed and clean interface. GMail page doesn't load properly, only basic html. Safari gives full GMail Ajax support. Deal breaker for me until 4.0 App switching is available Video's don't play, looks like its trying to load the embedded youtube player but only comes up with a page of links, no video. To bad Jobs has a bur up his butt about Flash, it's really a good platform when used properly, especially since HTML 5 is still a decade away and even then won't do half of what Flash can do.

Version 5.0.0176 2010-03-22

Is there any way to add Opera bookmarks to the iPhone "desktop"? I've got a bunch of bookmarks there, but they all take me to Safari.

I would love to see the blazing speed but all i get when I launch Opera Mini on my iPhone while connected to my WiFi (which works great w/ Safari, Mail Etc) is this:




After a few minutes I get a failed to contact Opera server message.

That's it. Restarted phone, reinstalled Opera Mini. Tried looking online for Opera Mini startup failure, cannot connect to server, etc but no quick fixes found on the WWW or here in forum.

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comments based upon use on a 2nd gen ipod touch, 32gb.

1--WONDERFULLY fast.
2--please address pinch sizing
3--problems with working on apple's movie trailers page(s): www.trailers.apple.com/trailers/iphone

details--gets to the specific page, but when i attempt to execute the link to the "genres" listings, opera mini only "left-justifies" itself and goes to the top of the page; never can advance to desired link; occurs whether in portrait or landscape orientation.

other than that (for the moment, i guess), this is rapidly becoming my default mobile browser.

Opera mini so far is good, but it can't shows animation page

Trensains

I examined the socket connection of Opera mini 5.0.18741 J2ME on microemulator and iPhone by using ngrep.

J2ME on Microemulator

C:\ngrep -d 1 port 1080
interface: \Device\NPF_{7E10644B-7106-4D2C-9B2D-ED6D4D28CCED} (192.168.1.0/255.
55.255.0)
filter: (ip or ip6) and ( port 1080 )
#######
T 192.168.1.241:2157 -> 64.255.180.253:1080 [AP]
##
T 64.255.180.253:1080 -> 192.168.1.241:2157 [AP]

It's very stable and super fast.

iPhone

iPhone:~ root# ngrep -d en0 port 1080
interface: en0 (192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0)
filter: (ip) and ( port 1080 )

T 192.168.1.250:49582 -> 64.255.180.253:1080 [AP]

T 192.168.1.250:49583 -> 64.255.180.253:1080 [AP]

T 192.168.1.250:49584 -> 64.255.180.253:1080 [AP]

The port number on the iPhone side changes fast without connecting with opera mini server by one time.
It took time for a while to establish the connection with the Opera mini server.
I don't know why:faint:

Originally posted by pepeluopera:

to see if these problems are fixed, hope at that time all features work fine. Rgds.

Yes, Opera Mini on iPhone is great with various caveats given iPhone framework restrictions and Opera not knowing how much effort to make initially about Apple accepting the app or not.

Having said that, do you think people here can read your mind about what OM5 problems you're having to help you?

Please specify so we can help you out, given Opera Mini is a bit non-standard than mSafari, but it's ridiculously powerful and useful, as more than a million iPhone users have discovered.

Please consider adding a "site prefs" capability to force "full-site" or "mobile site"...or add to browser.js "<a href="http://www.appleinsider.com">Appleinsider</a>." After your OM user-agent string change to ID as 'iphone", OM goes to an iPhone web app that breaks, and the full-site link doesn't allowing tapping into articles...and no way to switch back to the fast-loading full site of AI.

Ditto for Gmail's mobile site; should go to mobile html4 version via Opera proxy, not the ajax-y HTML5 version for mSafari with unsupported client-side JS. Looks like, as usual, Google goes out of their way to break rendering in any new Opera offering, until we ask them explicitly. "Do no evil" is my favorite phrase now.

I tried sometimes to post with iPod touch Opera Mini to post on these forums. When I was done I pressed "submit". This starts loading the page again. Sometimes a new page never appeared. Sometimes Opera mini loaded the site again but apparently had forgotten to actually submit my post. Very few times my post would actually appear. I have stopped using Opera mini for posting on my.opera, too frustrating.

Text is fit-to-width - that's nice - but scrolling down doesn't follow the vertical line, it's always drifting sideways a bit. Safari does a lot better here.

I also don't understand why when showing the full page, fonts are so small that you cannot make out anything at all.

Sometimes Opera mini will just stop loading new sites as if the connection was lost. Then I have to hit the only button on the iPod touch and restart Opera mini and it'll work again.

When opening new sites the progress bar does nothing to show the actual progress when you're on wlan. It'll sit at almost zero and then the page is suddenly there. It's pretty useless this way.

Overall it's a bit faster than Safari loading new pages (the iPod touch can only use wlan), it feels a bit quirky to use, but it's worth it simply for the speed of going back in your browsing history.

Originally posted by WildEnte:

I also don't understand why when showing the full page, fonts are so small that you cannot make out anything at all.

You think that is real text you are looking at?

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

You think that is real text you are looking at?

Knowing that doesn't make it any better

Originally posted by WildEnte:

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

You think that is real text you are looking at?

Knowing that doesn't make it any better

Yeah, I know. I wasn't expecting you were going to be satisfied with that explanation, but that's how Opera Mini works, that's why it's so fast in any device.

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

that's why it's so fast in any device.

Unfortunately, on devices like the iPhone this basically renders one of the (only 2) available zoom modes pretty much useless, as you can hardly read anything (no matter how fast it is displayed)...

Originally posted by netwolf:

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

that's why it's so fast in any device.

Unfortunately, on devices like the iPhone this basically renders one of the (only 2) available zoom modes pretty much useless, as you can hardly read anything (no matter how fast it is displayed)...

Instead of looking at OM5 with blinders, why don't you think about its intended use case? And the restrictions that Apple placed on an innovative browser to be accepted in their App Store?

My guess is Opera will now iterate Opera Mini like crazy, where the Cocoa-Touch APIs allow, since they know all their work rewriting OM5 to iPhone wasn't wasted with a rejection.

Also, from a usage standpoint, OM5 lets you zoom with one hand or your thumb BEFORE it finishes loading. Touch once to zoom-in to read, touch once again to zoom-out to navigate around. This lets your start reading 5x earlier than mSafari.

Just because you've been driving a Mercedes, doesn't mean that there's nothing great about a Prius; just try to get why it's different and advantageous given the Apple coding restrictions for a proxy-based browser, not a full-client browser). OM5 is complementary to mSafari, not really a full-replacement...though, for me, I'm using OM5 95% of time.

(Btw, I would LOVE to see Fast-forward implemented into OM5...the fwd button is mostly greyed-out anyway; would be VERY handy to read multi-page articles rather than trying to hunt & tap the small NEXT PAGE or numeral links on most news sites.)

After sync'ing some desktop bookmarks into the OM5 folder in Opera v10.5x, I noticed those bookmarks with nickname metadata is not sync'd. Please consider adding nickname support...would add a nice cross-device Opera addr bar experience between your 50 platfoms.

Please add a pop-up explanation or something to make self-discovery easier for new OM5 users to sync their bookmarks. As is, it's a total shot in the dark and a minority will try to find the answer online and a majority will just forget it. Maybe add a "how-to" into the OM5 HELP screen...nothing there that's even clickable now.

There should be an option to stop going into landscape mode when tilted. This way we can read sites an portrait mode and in mobile mode while lying down in bed.

Nice and fast on the cellular network, however when using wifi it's mostly slow or doesn't load pages at all? Safari doesn't have this problem on wifi. Tried both socket and http connections, makes no difference

Other stuff:
Check boxes are really tiny and hard to hit, make em bigger!

Originally posted by RpR:

Nice and fast on the cellular network, however when using wifi it's mostly slow or doesn't load pages at all? Safari doesn't have this problem on wifi. Tried both socket and http connections, makes no difference

Other stuff:
Check boxes are really tiny and hard to hit, make em bigger!

No problems on WIFI here...on my home network via Time Capsule and external networks at dentist, cafes, and friends' places. Opera Mini is faster than mSafari on WIFI, on 3G, and especially EDGE and a GPRS black hole.

Point to BBoing (or any site) on WIFI and see which mobile browser lets you zoom on, and read the 1st entry. OM5 is WAY faster.

Yes, looking fwd to pinch-to-zoom in next OM5 update on iPhone for better zooming on checkboxes (i.e., Twitter entry buttons).

Originally posted by Jenne22:

Like Opera for iPhone so far but totally hate the uber big title bar which stays there all the time.

Would love to see iOpera something like this.

Good idea, but why not just use the native iPhone menu bar like every other app for tap-to-top? Hopefully in the next update. Would love to see shake-to-full-screen, though.

Originally posted by kamalesh:

but why not just use the native iPhone menu bar like every other app for tap-to-top?

+1

Hi,
Opera mini on iphone is great but sync logik is very bad! I dont want to have to copy/past mu bookmark I just want it to be automated.
Please add the option of full sync betweek desktop and mobile opera because it's not user friendly at all on this release.
Thanks

Originally posted by cucupidon:

I dont want to have to copy/past mu bookmark I just want it to be automated.

If you do that using Opera for desktop it's gonna be easier, you can select multiple bookmarks, copy and paste, or drag if you want to move.