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"." keystroke in 10.51 - highlights disappear when one clicks the page
Hi,I often use the "." keystroke which I find quite practical. However, I find that it doesn't work properly in 10.51 unless you are willing to use the mouse or wait a bit.
Here is why. Press ".", then type some text. You'll have the matching text highlighted on the page. The first one has this green box which I personally abbhor, but it's not the point. The point is that the current page is not focused anymore - the search bar is. So if you press down to navigate the page (I only want to have the typed text highlighted, that's all), nothing happens... you have to wait until the search bar disappears. If you click the page, the highlights will vanish.
Any way to change this behaviour, or is this a feature / bug?
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If you press F3 after clicking the page all matching words will be highlighted again. You can also use F3 to go from result to result, usually this is quicker than scrolling with the keyboard anyway.
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Thanks, I didn't know this.
Maybe it could be also practical to make sure that clicking the page doesn't make the highlights disappear? I like just having the highlights and not jump from results to results, it gives an quick, visual overview of the page.
Cheers
Maybe it could be also practical to make sure that clicking the page doesn't make the highlights disappear? I like just having the highlights and not jump from results to results, it gives an quick, visual overview of the page.
Cheers
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Originally posted by DieuBaZin:
Maybe it could be also practical to make sure that clicking the page doesn't make the highlights disappear?
Not really. You have to have some way to disable the highlighting using either the mouse or the keyboard. Escape works for the keyboard, click for the mouse.
Scrolling the page with the text highlighted could be quicker. The right place for feature requests is in the wish-list — this thread is already there.
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Well, as far as I know this bahaviour is already there in 10.10 so it's not really a wish.
Disabling the highlighting is fine, but whe you use "." there is little use for the search bar staying open for so long *after* you have typed what you are searching for - you just want to hide it, the which you an do by pressing escape or clicking the page, which also disables the highlighting.....
So, either you have to 1) disable the highlighting by clicking or pressing escape and then 2) pressing F3 to have the highlighting back again, or you need to wait for the search bar to disappear.
Disabling the highlighting is fine, but whe you use "." there is little use for the search bar staying open for so long *after* you have typed what you are searching for - you just want to hide it, the which you an do by pressing escape or clicking the page, which also disables the highlighting.....
So, either you have to 1) disable the highlighting by clicking or pressing escape and then 2) pressing F3 to have the highlighting back again, or you need to wait for the search bar to disappear.
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Originally posted by DieuBaZin:
there is little use for the search bar staying open for so long *after* you have typed what you are searching for
Not everyone can type quickly, it'd be annoying if the search bar vanished mid word just because you weren't typing fast enough,
It'd be nice to be able to set the time it stays up i suppose.
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The search bar stays open for about 3 seconds — the same as the popup used to stay open for. The reason is to give the user time to correct typos. User types "escaep" and finds nothing, so backspaces to correct the error and finds "escape".
Page navigation is done with the spacebar as well as with cursor keys. If the user types "clicking" then presses the spacebar, should the page immediately scroll down or wait for the user to type "clicking the page"?
I think there is still some room for improvement here, but I'm not quite sure how it should be done. Certainly the scrolling is not as smooth with the grey overlay as it was without it. I think waiting for 3 seconds is not a big usability issue. How often does one need to scroll the page immediately after find the search string? Normally it will take at least 3 seconds to read the paragraph before one needs to scroll down and F3 will find the next occurrence immediately even while the find toolbar is still in view.
Any suggestions for improvements belong in the wish-list.
Page navigation is done with the spacebar as well as with cursor keys. If the user types "clicking" then presses the spacebar, should the page immediately scroll down or wait for the user to type "clicking the page"?
I think there is still some room for improvement here, but I'm not quite sure how it should be done. Certainly the scrolling is not as smooth with the grey overlay as it was without it. I think waiting for 3 seconds is not a big usability issue. How often does one need to scroll the page immediately after find the search string? Normally it will take at least 3 seconds to read the paragraph before one needs to scroll down and F3 will find the next occurrence immediately even while the find toolbar is still in view.
Any suggestions for improvements belong in the wish-list.
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Being able to change the time it stays on would be nice indeed - I do believe it is a big usability issue for a lot of user, though of course not all of them since as you said some type less quickly or need to correct typos etc. Also a point about not-so-smooth scrolling.
If you search a string in a page that contains many occurences of the given string, it is useful to scroll it immediately, and at least for me it's ore efficient than jumping linearly from result to result, because scrolling through the page I can catch parts of the sentence around each highlighted occurence and this tells me whether it is the occurence I am looking for or not.
To my mind the best (done this way in chrome) would be to arrange the focus so that keyboard up/down/page up/page down keys are sent to the page itself and no the search box - then you can scroll down the page using the keyboard while typing text in the box virtually at the same time.
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If you search a string in a page that contains many occurences of the given string, it is useful to scroll it immediately, and at least for me it's ore efficient than jumping linearly from result to result, because scrolling through the page I can catch parts of the sentence around each highlighted occurence and this tells me whether it is the occurence I am looking for or not.
To my mind the best (done this way in chrome) would be to arrange the focus so that keyboard up/down/page up/page down keys are sent to the page itself and no the search box - then you can scroll down the page using the keyboard while typing text in the box virtually at the same time.
Cheers
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