Need a list of Opera Preferences for Mac

Need a list of Opera Preferences for Mac

I know that this topic most likely wouldn't help anyone else, or very few... but need a list of Opera Preferences for Mac so I can add/compare/etc with Windows and *Unix preferences for my little <a href="http://76.11.58.186/">Button Site</a>. Provided that there isn't some weird difference that I am unaware of... what works best (I already have a parser setup for it, that works for all versions) is to simply do this:
1. Open <a href="opera:config">opera:config</a>.
2. View Source
3. Either "Select All" and copy paste to a document, or File - Save As...

However, this will include your current settings... so, if you are really paranoid (not that I even look) you might not want to, at least not without editing... the values don't matter, it just looks for HTML "labels" and "input type=X"...

Any versions are welcome, the more the merrier (just "Final" versions: 9.64, 10, 10.1, 10.5)... I already use Windows/Linux so I can get those myself, I tried (or thought about it and gave up) using VMWare to boot into MacOS...but... yeah...lol

Or naturally if there are already known lists somewhere, or pre-formatted/cleaned... those are welcome too.

Edit: I guess to be more fair... if anyone needs Windows/Linux lists... you can get mine <a href="ftp://76.11.58.186/Site/Lists/">here</a> or <a href="ftp://76.11.58.186/Site/Lists/External_Lists.zip">all of them</a> (215kb).
Names are: <i>Prefs-OS_OVer.txt</i> ... so: <i>Prefs-Win_10.50.txt</i> ... "New" means new since last version, "Rem"(oved) since last.
The format of the lists are: <i>Section:Preference</i> (not sure why I didn't use <i>Section|Preference</i> easy to change though)

Or any other lists that are there...

Originally posted by Vectronic:

I tried (or thought about it and gave up) using VMWare to boot into MacOS...but... yeah...lol

Not that I have personally tried it but this could be handy? http://oreilly.com/windows/archive/PearPC.html

Yeah, there's a couple ways... I did try in VMWare... but the OSX install crashed like 3% into it... twice... and that was enough for me to just delete the VM and the ISO...lol (disclaimer: not a Mac fan, too many problems over the years with it)

According to the FTP and HTTP logs... I haven't had a single Mac visitor (based on UA's)...so really not that important based on "users", I'd just like to do it for "completeness".

These are both fresh preferences, not that I'm paranoid, just because of all the snapshot testing fresh installs. The 10.50 file is from today's RC, but I don't think there will be any changes to it by final.

Opera 10.10
Opera 10.50

Much appreciated... although, might have found a bug with <i>myopera.com/%/files/*</i> or maybe Opera itself (encoding/MIME issue)... clicking your links, confirming, and downloading... displays them in weird binary, at first I thought you compressed them... but downloading them directly (not displaying them in Opera), they downloaded normally.

Note: don't expect them to show up <a href="http://76.11.58.186/#Pref_List">properly</a> on the site anytime soon...lol, need to modify my parser so it can do version information/comparing, then update the site to show accordingly. Maybe tomorrow.

Edit: Updated <a href="http://76.11.58.186/#External_Lists">External Lists</a> with the simple lists.
<a href="ftp://76.11.58.186/Site/Lists/Prefs-Mac_10.10.txt">Prefs Mac 10.10</a>
<a href="ftp://76.11.58.186/Site/Lists/Prefs-Mac_10.50.txt">Prefs Mac 10.50</a>
<a href="ftp://76.11.58.186/Site/Lists/Prefs-Mac_10.50_New.txt">Prefs Mac 10.50</a> (New)
<a href="ftp://76.11.58.186/Site/Lists/Prefs-Mac_10.50_Rem.txt">Prefs Mac 10.50</a> (Rem)

Yea, I also noticed that problem when I opened the uploaded versions.

I do like the button site that you have made. I used to use this site, but it hasn't been updated in forever. I may just end up being your 1 Mac visitor.

Yeah... TTT's/ToMu's lists was mine too... still a good list.

Mine started simply because I wanted to create a little page just for my own personal buttons... then just took it way too far...lol, but mine has become more of a "do it yourself" since the preset buttons is a rather small list.

Edit: By "DIY"... I haven't bothered to update the "Tips & Information", but... in the Actions, Icons, Text, and Preferences Lists... you can click on the items. However, Actions, Icons, and Text... are (currently) limited to to the Simple Editor, switching the value for that item... and the Preference list, automatically uses the Advanced Editor (mainly because the "Boolean" ones don't work in Simple Editor) creating a button based on that preference.

Edit2: Partially updated... no version info... not much difference, mostly in the "Printer" section.
9.64 + 10 (Lin/Win) + 10.1 + 10.5 (for all OS's) + 10.52 (Win)

Also notably in "HotlistWindow" section for "ActiveTab"... where Mac uses a "String" but Linux and Windows use an Integer (might be the fault of the devs), and "Mail|Mail Style File" doesn't exist in Lin/Win.

Surprisingly, my <s>stupid little</s> parser (like a 5 minute code job in .Net, lol) still works, for any pref list thrown at it, with one problem it simply assumes if more than one OS has the pref, that all 3 do... not sure how to add versioning though... at least not without making the website itself compare a bunch of lists, that one bit of info is a huge problem, at least if I want to keep the site small...

Edit3: ok guess it will be today... but still no version info... but it has all OS combinations now.
Lin/Mac/Win
Lin/Mac
Lin/Win
Mac/Win
Linux
Macintosh
Windows

For anyone who was/is interested... the <a href="http://76.11.58.186/#Pref_List">Preference List</a> is functional (with version information) but incomplete because the layout of type & version info is... crappy, but it works for both desktop and small screen mode (probably have to make my own $PadLeft() or maybe use <p'>s with "center")

If the preference is available in X version and still in the latest then it's "9.64+"
If it's only available in one version then it's "9.64" no plus...
If it spans a range (that doesn't include newest), then it's "9.64-10.1".

Might add the RGB colors (like 10.5 buttons, or the Opera Releases) to make them more noticeable.

Edit: bit better layout now, and added colors to separate the versions 10.5 10.1 10.0...etc

Changed the Span (Type & Version) to a "Label" with inline-block, and version is it's own Span now inside that, with float:right.
Probably create a bit of a problem with larger fonts, or really small screens though (8pt and 640x480 is still fine)

So... can anyone confirm that the following 3 preferences added to Windows and Linux in verion 10.54, were also added for Mac too?
<a href="opera:config#First Run Timestamp">Install|First Run Timestamp</a>
<a href="opera:config#First Used Version">Install|First Used Version</a>
<a href="opera:config#DevTools Open Attached">User Prefs|DevTools Open Attached</a>

It's safe to say they were, since they are generic settings... but want to make sure

10.54.8350

lol... ok thanx, updated.

Back again... are these 3 preference in 10.6, also in the Mac version?
<a href="opera:config#Allow Cross Network Navigation">Network|Allow Cross Network Navigation</a>
<a href="opera:config#Lag Threshold For Animation Throttling">Performance|Lag Threshold For Animation Throttling</a>
<a href="opera:config#Switch Animation Throttling Interval">Performance|Switch Animation Throttling Interval</a>

I assume that "Cross Network" is, since it seems to just be a replacement for "Allow Cross Domain Access".

All there.

Thanx again... updated.

Longer list this time...
<a href="opera:config#IntranetHosts">User Prefs|IntranetHosts</a>
<a href="opera:config#Application Cache Quota">Cache|Application Cache Quota</a>
<a href="opera:config#Access Token Timestamp">Geolocation|Access Token Timestamp</a>
<a href="opera:config#Access Token">Geolocation|Access Token</a>
<a href="opera:config#Collect Location Data In Background">Geolocation|Collect Location Data In Background</a>
<a href="opera:config#Enable Geolocation">Geolocation|Enable Geolocation</a>
<a href="opera:config#Location Provider URL">Geolocation|Location Provider URL</a>
<a href="opera:config#Send Location Request Only On Change">Geolocation|Send Location Request Only On Change</a>
<a href="opera:config#Enable Geolocation">User Prefs|Enable Geolocation</a>
<a href="opera:config#Maximum Number Of Web Workers Per Session">User Prefs|Maximum Number Of Web Workers Per Session.</a>
<a href="opera:config#Maximum Number Of Web Workers Per Window">User Prefs|Maximum Number Of Web Workers Per Window.</a>
<a href="opera:config#Maximum Number Of Web Workers Per Window">User Prefs|Show Geolocation License Dialog</a>
<a href="opera:config#Strategy On Application Cache">User Prefs|Strategy On Application Cache</a>

Edit: Any chance of getting a full list again? There's surprises sometimes, like in this latest build there's an entire new section for Linux "Interface Colors" and a few printer related things which doesn't appear in Windows (latter of which might be in Mac)

All the listed ones are there.

10.60.8381

Great, thanx again... finally updated (got your list like 11 hours ago... then went to bed, been up for 2 days)

<u>New In 10.6</u>:
Cache|Application Cache Quota
Geolocation|Access Token Timestamp
Geolocation|Access Token
Geolocation|Collect Location Data In Background
Geolocation|Enable Geolocation
Geolocation|Location Provider URL
Geolocation|Send Location Request Only On Change
Network|Allow Cross Network Navigation
Performance|Lag Threshold For Animation Throttling
Performance|Switch Animation Throttling Interval
User Prefs|Enable Geolocation
User Prefs|IntranetHosts
User Prefs|Maximum Number Of Web Workers Per Session.
User Prefs|Maximum Number Of Web Workers Per Window.
User Prefs|Show Geolocation License Dialog
User Prefs|Strategy On Application Cache

<u>Removed</u>:
Java|Opera ClassPath
Java|Security Policy
Network|Allow Cross Domain Access
User Prefs|Exceptions Have Stacktrace

Alrighty... how about a 10.6 full list? Since it's RC3 should now be "locked" for any new preferences.

Somewhere in the last few builds (haven't been keeping that good of a track) they added: <a href="opera:config#Search Field On Error Pages">User Prefs|Search Field On Error Pages</a>

Is this setting in the Geolocation prefs restrictive or permissive?
Geolocation|Send Location Request Only On Change
Does that mean if you uncheck it that your location will be sent whether you change your location or not, or does it mean that it will not be sent even if you change your location?
I cannot find a reference that explains that (or any other) setting in Geolocation. It is missing from the help file. Where is one supposed to find the explanations for the more recent preference settings?

I would assume permissive, if it's enabled it will only send it if it's different from the last request/value.

However, I would also assume that it's also not very accurate considering the variables...are variable, Mac Address, IP etc can remain the same, but signal strength (WiFi) can fluctuate even if the PC doesn't move...

As far as new settings go (ie: pretty much everything since 9.64 or so)... is basically "your best guess", some of them can be tested yourself, others people have already tested and might have a blog about it...etc.

10.60 Mac

Little slow this time, I've been busy.

Thanx again, turns out assuming the settings worked out anyways, <i>Search Field On Error Pages</i> was the only change since the previous one (which doesn't seem to do anything yet? lol).

But I did forget to update the New/Removed lists for Mac... so, those are updated.

Been awhile... and there probably isn't too many differences, but... 10.7 preference list would be good, mainly for verification.

Originally posted by Vectronic:

Been awhile... and there probably isn't too many differences, but... 10.7 preference list would be good, mainly for verification.

Opera 10.70 Build 9036 (Mac OS X 10.6.0)

default.txt

Used http://lifehacker.com/5583650/run-mac-os-x-in-virtualbox-on-windows this time ;-)

Thanks, and updated...

Regarding VM's though... happen to have a reliable ISO? or a search query that would lead me there...lol... I think that's the problem I had when I tried with VMWare last time...

Originally posted by Vectronic:

Regarding VM's though... happen to have a reliable ISO? or a search query that would lead me there...lol... I think that's the problem I had when I tried with VMWare last time...

Thats the exact same name of the ISO I used. (Found it using binsearch.)

Not happening... in both VirtualBox and VMWare it results in a "kernel stack fault" shortly after booting.

I might try it in my other PC, which is newer, and more powerful, if I get <i>really</i> bored... but, probably just stick with asking other people for Mac prefs.

Yea.... I definitely won't be able to help anymore, since there is that slight flaw of no PPC builds now and I don't have a new Mac upgrade budget for a long, long, long time.

Ok been much longer this time... but since this latest 10.7 snapshot is the last one before 11 ones start coming out, figure it's a good time to ask for another Mac preference file (and yes, I'm aware that 10.7 = 11, lol)

I think most of the assumed settings are accurate, and I don't recall any mention of Mac specific things, but you never know...lol

Finally got my hands on an Intel Mac.

Opera 10.70.9071 (Last 10.70 build)
Opera 11.00.1060 (Latest snapshot as of this post.)

Awesome... thanks.

So you're no longer stuck with 10.63, or it was a one time only thing? At least you weren't completely in the dark for Opera 11 (according to your sig).

I still only own a PPC at home and of course still Camino.

At school we have mostly windows, and now with the portable version built right into the installer it allows me to stay up to date with that, instead of having to use the stable version of OperaUSB.
We also have some fairly new Macs there, I tend not to use them because of their location and there really aren't any portable apps for Mac (especially Opera), but I finally had some free time (along with actually remembering to do so) to stop by one today and get the files. So, in short, I'll be able to get you the files, but not on any regular basis.

No rush, I only really need one about every 3 months with each major release (10.5, 10.6, 11, etc), it's just nice to have them more frequently.

Maybe you'll be lucky and the school will buy some newer ones, then you might be able to buy one of their Intel ones for cheap (although they usually just ship them off to some other school in the same district or to a 1/2/3rd grade where they are likely to be destroyed, lol).

Or, convert your school to using Opera (although it's probably all tied up in contracts).

Even if I they did upgrade them and I could get one, they probably would be converted to "internet connect stations" throughout the school. (We use white iMac G5s for that right now.)

And I would love to get Opera at least as an option on the computers. The ANGEL site (the new Blackboard, if you know what that is) does prevent Opera from logging in there, but a simple blocking of a js file fixes that. We at least have Firefox/IE8 and Safari/Firefox, so we aren't in the dark era, but it could be so much better.

I'm working on making myself a portable version of Opera for Mac, so I was at a comp for this and figured you might want it since there is new config stuff.

11.00.1094 mac pref

(Also really wanted to try out all the changes on Mac. )

Heh thanks... yeah, it's a pretty major update, makes me wonder what they kept out of it that's still to come.

Any chance of someone tossing me an 11.5 preference page/file?

Side note: any links in this thread pointing to FTP should still work if changed to HTTP.