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21. April 2010, 15:42:51

thenephillim

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Blocking Opera Mini Socket

I am a System Admin at a hospital with a problem...
I like Opera on the Iphone, however, we have students and nurses whom use their iphones during work hours and with the Opera browser are able to supersede all of our content filters due to the use of sockets. I've been trying to figure out what method to go about preventing this issue and need some help. What ports does the socket use? Is there any other way to filter its use other than blocking the port entirely?

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated!

Thank you!
Justin Shields

21. April 2010, 16:35:38 (edited)

sikjo

Posts: 243

The socket protocol uses port 1080 but I don't know anything more about the protocol itself other that it's encrypted. If you ask the staff nicely you might get the ip ranges of the servers, but do you have any specific reason to not block the port entirely?

Edit: I'll answer the last question myself. If you filter on content you don't have to worry about other ports.

21. April 2010, 16:51:29

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Originally posted by thenephillim:

I am a System Admin at a hospital with a problem...
I like Opera on the Iphone, however, we have students and nurses whom use their iphones during work hours and with the Opera browser are able to supersede all of our content filters due to the use of sockets. I've been trying to figure out what method to go about preventing this issue and need some help. What ports does the socket use? Is there any other way to filter its use other than blocking the port entirely?

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated!

Thank you!
Justin Shields



Ain't we have soon here a bunch of nurses asking for connection issues rolleyes

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21. April 2010, 17:32:01

thenephillim

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Nope, rather, nurses and doctors using the wireless in the building to view websites of questionable demeanor while on the clock...
Since we use a content filter (SonicWall) we have many social networking sites, and "dirty" sites blocked. but since Opera Mini uses sockets the content filter doesn't see page requests, just the hits to the Opera servers....

21. April 2010, 18:12:40

SAGRID

Posts: 2749

There is no effective 'external' filter for Opera Mini. Only a version optimized for a particular operator can block access to certain websites via WAP gateways but with all sites optimized for IPhone this interest does not exist.
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21. April 2010, 18:37:51

thenephillim

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I know I can't block what they can access over WAP/Wireless Data. But they are attaching to our wireless LAN and still able to browse anything they want with Opera.
It looks like the only thing possible to do is to block port 1080 from going out. Can someone confirm that this will cure my issue?

Oh, and just to clarify, my biggest concern is the loss of HIPAA information.

That and removing distractions for workers that are on the clock.... lol

21. April 2010, 19:07:53

SAGRID

Posts: 2749

1080 and 9003 also even if is not used. In fact IPhone works better via HTTP protocol.
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22. April 2010, 08:14:31

DmitryP

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Originally posted by thenephillim:

It looks like the only thing possible to do is to block port 1080 from going out. Can someone confirm that this will cure my issue?


No, it will not. They will switch to HTTP then. You are not going to block port 80 in that case, are you?
You need to filter by server IP address. Or filter DNS requests for domain names like *.opera.com - looks like Opera Mini uses server name rather than IP address, so it will not work if it can not resolve the server name.

22. April 2010, 08:22:03

Originally posted by thenephillim:

It looks like the only thing possible to do is to block port 1080 from going out. Can someone confirm that this will cure my issue?



The Mini client should switch to using HTTP if you block port 1080, but you still won't be able to do content filtering because the client still sends the request as an encrypted blob, just wrapped up in an HTTP POST. To make content filtering possible we'd have to expose the URL the user is requesting, and that would be bad.

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22. April 2010, 13:35:37

thenephillim

Posts: 4

What's very interesting now, when I switch Opera on my phone over to HTTP, no web pages will resolve. Even Google. This is while attached to our local Wifi. Sockets still works. Oh, and Ports 1080 and 9003 are denied for outgoing and I have 3G and Edge disabled to lock the iphone to Wifi only.
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