Is Opera Mini still a browser?

Is Opera Mini still a browser?

Don't know how to start.. I'm surprised Opera mini and the team as well still do not succumb to the infection of opera mini- the symptoms like BLANK PAGE LOADING, PAGE RELOADING, LINK NOT WORKING!
Now, now, don't tell me it's a temporary server error..bleh bleh.. It's a parmanent chronic infection for opera mini now and it's been too long.. Who is going to cure it? Opera team..?? I don't think so... Let this be the official announcement that they failed and they give up.. It's been persisting too long now.
What's the use of a diamond decorated Ducati car if it cannot even run a few distance? That's opera mini.
Sorry if i'm being rude, but yeah that's what i want to look like now anyway.. I can't smile every time i pay extra due to stupid opera reloading pages..
As good as gold, as useless as opera mini..

5.0 or 4.2? What phone?

Opera Mini works fine here. You might want to try being polite, or you'll probably just be ignored.

Originally posted by Mibsip:

Don't know how to start.. I'm surprised Opera mini and the team as well still do not succumb to the infection of opera mini- the symptoms like BLANK PAGE LOADING, PAGE RELOADING, LINK NOT WORKING!
...

You should provide more information. What links aren't working? I still get pages reloading sometimes, but have not seen blank pages in a while. Also keep in mind if you're trying to load pages with Flash content, they will be blank as Falsh is not supported. There could be other reasons besides Opera Mini not working properly.

Originally posted by scottb:

Originally posted by Mibsip:

Don't know how to start.. I'm surprised Opera mini and the team as well still do not succumb to the infection of opera mini- the symptoms like BLANK PAGE LOADING, PAGE RELOADING, LINK NOT WORKING!
...

You should provide more information. What links aren't working? I still get pages reloading sometimes, but have not seen blank pages in a while. Also keep in mind if you're trying to load pages with Flash content, they will be blank as Falsh is not supported. There could be other reasons besides Opera Mini not working properly.

I got blank pages 2 times when i tried to log in to opera mini forum today..

Page reload is really bad for me now... Doesnt matter 4.2 5.0 or iphone version.. My post doesnt submit 90 percent of times..google search reloads most of time.. I have to copy it..but please have faith.. They are not working on it.. Maybe its not easy to fix..

Here is an error that I can reproduce on a Moto AND an SE phone, so I suspect it happens every time with the OM5 Java version:

1. Open OM5
2. Open Bookmarks -> Feeds
3. Open any feed
4. Hit "back"
5. Open another feed

-> Et voilà! Feed overview page reloads, instead of showing new feed page.

No, I won't report the bug officially, since this problem occurs in other contexts as well and has been reported by others.

Could those people who say everything works fine on their phones please repeat those steps, and if they don't lead to the described error, provide information on the phone they use - thanks.

I think, although on could argue whether the (missing) politeness of the first poster here is adequate, he puts the facts on the table: we've had a browser that doesn't always open the URL you click on. Serious flaw, in my opinion, since this is the most basic function one can expect from a browser.

However, I get the impression that things are improving slowly. Opera recently had several serious problems with their most recent products (e.g. O/desktop 10.5 not loading pages), and the new versions are getting better and better. So, the future is bright!

Originally posted by prd3:

Opera Mini works fine here. You might want to try being polite, or you'll probably just be ignored.

thanks for the advice. "my opera mini works fine.".. I don't think so. .unless opera team set up a seperate server for your use only This crap i'm talking bout is 4 all opera mini users. Don't have any idea? Try this, search 'cats' in google, now change the search word to 'dogs', still u'll get the same result 4 cats. Go to facebook, post a status, once you exit the text box, the page wud just reload, and it's of no use at all, cos if u stop the reloading and submit, it works all well. Now these are just few of countless flaws opera mini is facing,and as i marked myself, it's been seven months (or more) this problem's been persisting.
@prd3, if u would like to read more, search the forum with 'opera server crazy'..etc, well, it's been discussed alot the time prior to your entry in this forum.

Originally posted by Chinu92:

Originally posted by scottb:

Originally posted by Mibsip:

Don't know how to start.. I'm surprised Opera mini and the team as well still do not succumb to the infection of opera mini- the symptoms like BLANK PAGE LOADING, PAGE RELOADING, LINK NOT WORKING!
...

You should provide more information. What links aren't working? I still get pages reloading sometimes, but have not seen blank pages in a while. Also keep in mind if you're trying to load pages with Flash content, they will be blank as Falsh is not supported. There could be other reasons besides Opera Mini not working properly.

I got blank pages 2 times when i tried to log in to opera mini forum today..

it's the same old problem unfixed.
These problems are like "rain", sometimes they come more, sometimes less, sometimes never, but they always come back!

Originally posted by Mibsip:

Originally posted by Chinu92:

Originally posted by scottb:

Originally posted by Mibsip:

Don't know how to start.. I'm surprised Opera mini and the team as well still do not succumb to the infection of opera mini- the symptoms like BLANK PAGE LOADING, PAGE RELOADING, LINK NOT WORKING!
...

You should provide more information. What links aren't working? I still get pages reloading sometimes, but have not seen blank pages in a while. Also keep in mind if you're trying to load pages with Flash content, they will be blank as Falsh is not supported. There could be other reasons besides Opera Mini not working properly.

I got blank pages 2 times when i tried to log in to opera mini forum today..

it's the same old problem unfixed.
These problems are like "rain", sometimes they come more, sometimes less, sometimes never, but they always come back!

't' servers (NO?, in fact should be located in SE) have a tendency for timeout error (408) in comparison with servers located in US and mostly with http connection.

Originally posted by SAGRID:

't' servers (NO?, in fact should be located in SE) have a tendency for timeout error (408) in comparison with servers located in US and mostly with http connection.

Elaborate Sagrid lol!

Originally posted by Mibsip:

Originally posted by prd3:

Opera Mini works fine here. You might want to try being polite, or you'll probably just be ignored.

thanks for the advice. "my opera mini works fine.".. I don't think so.

Who are you to tell me what works for me and what doesn't? Have you used Opera Mini on my phone? No? Then I suggest you stop making bogus claims about me.

Originally posted by prd3:

Have you used Opera Mini on my phone?

Sure he didn't. But did you follow the steps I described above, and does it really work for you? If so, on what phone?

Originally posted by HansKiefer:

Originally posted by prd3:

Have you used Opera Mini on my phone?

Sure he didn't. But did you follow the steps I described above, and does it really work for you? If so, on what phone?

Looks like prd3 is using a phone made by opera.

I tried the "cats and dogs" search. Mine did change the result to dogs. Not sure why the problems are so inconsistent from user to user. Must be part of the reason they're so hard to fix. I agree they have been around for a long time though. Not taking the clicked link is a pretty serious flaw for a browser as is having to copy text before submitting it. :-/

Originally posted by scottb:

I tried the "cats and dogs" search. Mine did change the result to dogs. Not sure why the problems are so inconsistent from user to user. Must be part of the reason they're so hard to fix. I agree they have been around for a long time though. Not taking the clicked link is a pretty serious flaw for a browser as is having to copy text before submitting it. :-/

Not exactly, is reproducible with all boxes that reload the page. For example you could try 'forum jump' and eventually wrong redirection is inevitable, sameo with login boxes (reload only) and so on. Anyway why javascript is not persistent (reloading the page in javascript result a blank page) per session and is triggered only by an event which can be done 'only' on server side? For example an alert must be reloaded again with v5 and is not cached. When Opera Mini will be ready for all platforms reloading issue hopefully will be resolved.

Originally posted by prd3:

Who are you to tell me what works for me and what doesn't? Have you used Opera Mini on my phone? No? Then I suggest you stop making bogus claims about me.

oh! Boy! When have i told you what works and what doesn't for you??!! and i'm not making a bogus claims bout you dear! I was just giving a strong guess (99% sure) that your opera mini won't be flawless..cause it's not about opera mini application but about opera mini servers..which we all share..and :YES: I am using the same server that you are using.
Anyway, i'd like to advice you again- not to attack someone personally in a forum.. Target the idea, not the who. .

Again, Opera Mini works fine here. It isn't my fault that you can't be polite.

@ManneS Web Random Roulette is fine, we know you guys are working hard to fix it. But is there any possibility to fix the reload issue in GMail when sending an email ? I'm sure this bug has been reported multiple times earlier, but it's still here.
When you've clicked the 'Send' button, the page just reloads with the text in the text box. It does not show the email as sent, but it is sent. So once you click again, the mail most of the time gets sent again. As you can understand, this is very troublesome for both the receiver and the sender. It doesn't happen always, but pretty often, which itself is confusing.

Prd3, as an obvious chronic apologist for Opera, your comments can readily be ignored. For you, and only you, Opera is always perfect.

Originally posted by HansKiefer:

Here is an error that I can reproduce on a Moto AND an SE phone, so I suspect it happens every time with the OM5 Java version:

1. Open OM5
2. Open Bookmarks -> Feeds
3. Open any feed
4. Hit "back"
5. Open another feed

-> Et voilà! Feed overview page reloads, instead of showing new feed page.

That's the kind of bug report that we can use

I can reproduce that, so we can look into what's causing it.

@prd3, yea, i admit i wasn't trying to be polite. Understand me that i opened this topic after i tried and failed to work with http://krunchit.net where opera went crazy for nearly an hour., frustration had overtaken me, i guess
normally, i'm a polite and patient girl

Opera mini 4.2 works perfectly for me 98% of the time.

Originally posted by Museatlantis:

Opera mini 4.2 works perfectly for me 98% of the time.

Same for me.
Problems arise only with 5.

Originally posted by Mibsip:

http://krunchit.net where opera went crazy for nearly an hour.,

Bad script. As workaround you can try to 'push' the javascript at a proper time, 'javascript:' as an address tend to be also a blank page but these two links combined must resolve the issue in the end.

Originally posted by keviniorourke:

Originally posted by HansKiefer:

Here is an error that I can reproduce on a Moto AND an SE phone, so I suspect it happens every time with the OM5 Java version:

1. Open OM5
2. Open Bookmarks -> Feeds
3. Open any feed
4. Hit "back"
5. Open another feed

-> Et voilà! Feed overview page reloads, instead of showing new feed page.

That's the kind of bug report that we can use

I can reproduce that, so we can look into what's causing it.

feeds>opera comunity news>south africa >click back >member of the week (first feed) now the last link reload the page and only #0 fix the issue. Idem http://robtex.com/ip/94.246.126.232.html > ip/graph/shared whois/blacklists analysis/contact links using mini4, with om5 links must be opened in another tabs as workaround.

Originally posted by HansKiefer:

Here is an error that I can reproduce on a Moto AND an SE phone, so I suspect it happens every time with the OM5 Java version:

1. Open OM5
2. Open Bookmarks -> Feeds
3. Open any feed
4. Hit "back"
5. Open another feed

-> Et voilà! Feed overview page reloads, instead of showing new feed page.

Confirmed with OM5b Android on a HTC Hero with server t20-04. I also tried swithing protocol before the second feed with no luck. Open in new tab loads the correct page though.

If only BUG reports were the solutions....

Please forgive this newbie to opera mini.

I downloaded the opera mini 5 for my HTC Mogul with WM6.1 and it seemed to work fine until I tried to login to any site that requires a login. I have tried to search for solutions here but I must not be doing the searches correctly or I am just a bonehead but either way, has anyone ran into this problem and if so, do you know how to resolve this problem. Other than trying to log into Facebook or my Google mail accounts the browser is really fast and I have to problems view pages are following links.

Thanks,

Danny Blaze.

When changing keyword in google search, usually i have to click the search button more than once. So i have to wait the page reloads twice or more to get search result page with new keyword. Is it normal?

I just wanted to make sure that my problem is understood.

When I try to enter my login information into my Facebook or Google accounts the information is entered correctly but when I go to log in, the page will come back asking me to input the correct information. I do this and still cannot access these sites no matter what I do.

My handset: HTC Mogul with Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional

Thanks,

Danny Blaze

Originally posted by sikjo:

Originally posted by HansKiefer:

Here is an error that I can reproduce on a Moto AND an SE phone, so I suspect it happens every time with the OM5 Java version:

1. Open OM5
2. Open Bookmarks -> Feeds
3. Open any feed
4. Hit "back"
5. Open another feed

-> Et voilà! Feed overview page reloads, instead of showing new feed page.

Confirmed with OM5b Android on a HTC Hero with server t20-04. I also tried swithing protocol before the second feed with no luck. Open in new tab loads the correct page though.

Visual effects are partially disabled and that's why.

Originally posted by dannyblaze:

I just wanted to make sure that my problem is understood.

When I try to enter my login information into my Facebook or Google accounts the information is entered correctly but when I go to log in, the page will come back asking me to input the correct information. I do this and still cannot access these sites no matter what I do.

My handset: HTC Mogul with Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional

Thanks,

Danny Blaze

that's the same problem we're facing too! Even logging in to this forum sometimes is very difficult. However, after many trial, i somehow always succeed. And make sure u check 'remember me' option so that you won't face the same problem time after time. If you cannot log in at all after countless attempts, then it's a different matter. Anyway, we're talking about java opera mini, I don't know what opera mini they use on WM.

Originally posted by dannyblaze:

I just wanted to make sure that my problem is understood.

When I try to enter my login information into my Facebook or Google accounts the information is entered correctly but when I go to log in, the page will come back asking me to input the correct information. I do this and still cannot access these sites no matter what I do.

My handset: HTC Mogul with Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional

Thanks,

Danny Blaze

that's the same problem we're facing too! Even logging in to this forum sometimes is very difficult. However, after many trial, i somehow always succeed. And make sure u check 'remember me' option so that you won't face the same problem time after time. If you cannot log in at all after countless attempts, then it's a different matter. Anyway, we're talking about java opera mini, I don't know what opera mini they use on WM.

Originally posted by Mibsip:

Originally posted by dannyblaze:

I just wanted to make sure that my problem is understood.

When I try to enter my login information into my Facebook or Google accounts the information is entered correctly but when I go to log in, the page will come back asking me to input the correct information. I do this and still cannot access these sites no matter what I do.

My handset: HTC Mogul with Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional

Thanks,

Danny Blaze

that's the same problem we're facing too! Even logging in to this forum sometimes is very difficult. However, after many trial, i somehow always succeed. And make sure u check 'remember me' option so that you won't face the same problem time after time. If you cannot log in at all after countless attempts, then it's a different matter. Anyway, we're talking about java opera mini, I don't know what opera mini they use on WM.

Lol,only file format is .cab instead of .jar.
Servers are the same!

Originally posted by Chinu92:

Lol,only file format is .cab instead of .jar.
Servers are the same!

okay!!

Thanks for the info.

Prd3 and Museatlantis: y'all must not use Facebook Mobile. OM problems surface there constantly.

Google search page reloading is very annoying. It happens to me everytime.

'glad to see this thread being given attention,the om team don't even aknowledge that this problems have been reported ten time before, i support the request that the om team should issue a statement about this problems,it's been too long, to those whose om5 is working perfectly,congrats!
As for me anyone who can help me post on www.myadsl.co.za with om5 will be my king...thats the prime website in my country/1st submision 2nd failed

let's first assume our opera team developers are not busy all the time throwing parties for the new opera minis for new OS phones, while the original and main Opera mini is in a pathetic situation..i.e regular failure to be what it should be- a browser.
Being around here the time these problems came to climax, and continue to persist, i have observed that things are getting better slowly..though really slow. The problems of server are solved fragments by fragments, and though it's sad to sometimes see the already solved error come back, as overall, improvement can be seen. So, let's watch and wait, patiently.

Well,since yesterday I'm no more facing the google search problem. I'm Getting results of the queried word instantly without the reload of the previous queried word.
Hope the "rain" has finally stopped. Or may be i'm facing a dry season. Lol.

One more thing i noticed is the probablity of reloading in the lower search box of google was more than the upper search box.

Originally posted by Princeroyalking:

Well,since yesterday I'm no more facing the google search problem. I'm Getting results of the queried word instantly without the reload of the previous queried word.
Hope the "rain" has finally stopped. Or may be i'm facing a dry season. Lol.

One more thing i noticed is the probablity of reloading in the lower search box of google was more than the upper search box.

that's a good news well, at least for you, if not yet for us. Would you try some more and tell us the results, like..umm...just play with the search box in this forum. And also, use the 'forum jump'. Is everything perfectly working for you? I/we would be keen to know

Here's what i found myself doing few tests around with opera mini 4.2-
-facebook mobile reloading on exiting text box still prevails.
-opera forum 'forum jump' is perfectly working (for now)
-opera forum 'search box' and 'submit post' also okay.
-google search problem still persists and i can demonstrate this way :-
1. Search 'cats' in google search.
2. Go to the links of any of the search results.
3. Browse around few pages.
4. Now, click back >back > back till you come back to the previous search results page.
5. Change the word in the search box, say to 'dogs'
6. Click 'search'. The same result list for 'cats' is displayed.
Same thing in Google Image search.
No blank page loading with opera mini for today.
Have to test with om 5 now.

i'm not sure if ur still fightin or whatever,i just felt i need to tell U that,Opera mini 5 beta 2 works Great on my nokia e71 ,even the unsigned1,it is just to good,too sexy:-)

Originally posted by Mibsip:

that's a good news well, at least for you, if not yet for us. Would you try some more and tell us the results, like..umm...just play with the search box in this forum. And also, use the 'forum jump'. Is everything perfectly working for you? I/we would be keen to know

Forum jump- working fine.
Search box- working good.
Google search- not working well if u query a word, visit any of the relevant site shown, then press back key, come to google and search again, it shows the previous queried result.
But if u press search again, it gives correct result.

And about om5. I dont use it often unless i need some copy paste function. Its very unpredictable on s40 phones. The interface is slow and most annoying is that it loses connection every 2nd time u load a page. N loading of heavy pages often lead to blank screens, i should not be posting all these as i already reported it. Lets see when it gets corrected.

N what i guess, there will be probably a 5.1 after android final version release.

5.1 will of course come, but not in the near future.
Good that you have reported, as i was about to do, too.
It cuts connection whenever it wants, most annoying while downloading., as opera mini has no option of continuing download once stopped.

All the things reported here are reported tonnes of times, After the release of om5 final, all were ignited to report, fight n support their problems, but slowly the aggression dimmed, people who were facing problem either became patient n r waiting for the release of the next version or they shifted back to the reliable om4.2. N den the release of om5 for iphone over shadowed it.
But i hope it has not over shadowed the bugs report posted via bug reporting system. N our the bugs r being considered n worked upon.
There are many more problems but reporting them all again will only increase the post, length wise.

@kisarmani the problems mibsib mentioned are affecting us very badly,she(the beaut pic) is not fighting,some of the om users expirienced some slight improvent in performance,which confirms my suspicion that the om team is actually ignoring issues raised in this forums

Om 5 final is works fine in my SE k770i and yet still the best mobile browser.

Om 5 final is works fine in my SE k770i and yet still the best mobile browser.

Originally posted by Kissarmani:

i'm not sure if ur still fightin or whatever,i just felt i need to tell U that,Opera mini 5 beta 2 works Great on my nokia e71 ,even the unsigned1,it is just to good,too sexy:-)

Happy to hear that, Then u should try the final too. Y still using betas?

Originally posted by pao9195:

Om 5 final is works fine in my SE k770i and yet still the best mobile browser.

good!
(but i can tell it's not working 100% fine, from the double posts you posted! That's due to 'post submit problem' and you are also not free from it..haha. Forget it )

Hello miss @ mibsib. It is not a God to b perfect at all time or you have not given any million $ to opera team to checkout your problem, THIS OPERA MINI IS A SOFTWARE WHICH MAY B HANG OR STUCK ALSO. WE HAVE TO ADJUST OK. TODAY OPERA IS NUMBER ONE BROWSER IN THE WORLD WITH OUT FLASH. BUT THEN ALSO IT IS NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD. IF YOU FIND ANY PERFECT BROWSER WITH OUT ANY HANG OR BUG THEN YOU CAN USE THAT ONLY. THEN Y ARE YOU USING THIS AH ? Listen mibsib. We have to except good or bad if we like some one isnt it ? Adjust it. A beautiful valley can bring volcono, a beautiful beach can bring tsunami also, the breeze can bring twister also, but it remain only for a moment, again it is beautiful to c this

Originally posted by Mibsip:

Originally posted by pao9195:

Om 5 final is works fine in my SE k770i and yet still the best mobile browser.

good!
(but i can tell it's not working 100% fine, from the double posts you posted! That's due to 'post submit problem' and you are also not free from it..haha. Forget it )

yep this "post submit problem" is the only bug of Opera Mini 5 for me

Originally posted by Saytu84:

Hello miss @ mibsib. It is not a God to b perfect at all time or you have not given any million $ to opera team to checkout your problem, THIS OPERA MINI IS A SOFTWARE WHICH MAY B HANG OR STUCK ALSO. WE HAVE TO ADJUST OK. TODAY OPERA IS NUMBER ONE BROWSER IN THE WORLD WITH OUT FLASH. BUT THEN ALSO IT IS NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD. IF YOU FIND ANY PERFECT BROWSER WITH OUT ANY HANG OR BUG THEN YOU CAN USE THAT ONLY. THEN Y ARE YOU USING THIS AH ? Listen mibsib. We have to except good or bad if we like some one isnt it ? Adjust it. A beautiful valley can bring volcono, a beautiful beach can bring tsunami also, the breeze can bring twister also, but it remain only for a moment, again it is beautiful to c this

let me enlighten you with these few little things-
1. This is opera mini forum. I am opera mini user. I have the right to complain what is not working fine.
2. Our complaints and feedback can help the developers to improve their products.
3. There is no browser that will ask you for a million $ anyway. All browsers are free. They earn by having users- "us"
4. it is our love for opera mini and longing for its perfection that we come here complaining..wasting our time. It's the only thing we can do from users' side. Had i preferred another browser, you would not see this topic also..
5. Lastly, it's not about application errors like hanging or stuck. It's a major problem of server, and i'm just re-posting about it since recovery process has taken too long than expected, though more experienced users had already discussed, reported n brought out here long back..
Anyway, good to hear that you love opera mini too. We all do.
( and i'm sure you won't want to live forever near that beautiful mountain producing volcanoes all the time! )

Opera mini 5 and 4.2 works fine on my SE C902 java phone. Why the websites though redirects you to Facebook mobile and Gmail mobile when you clearly chose to go to Facebook web and Gmail web is anyone's guess.

Originally posted by trilogy5:

...Why mini thought redirects you to Facebook mobile and Gmail mobile when you clearly chose to go to Facebook web and Gmail web is anyone's guess.

Opera Mini doesn't redirect you to the mobile sites, the Web sites redirect you.

Hmmm...

Well the google search page reload is extremely annoying for me but I found a way around it. If you click the shortcut "# + 9" that's the shortcut for quick search. It'll open the same search box and if you type in your new search it'll search for what you typed. But if you do type it into the google webpage itself it almost always reloads... For me it reloads 100% of the time but with the shortcut one less bug for me.