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22. April 2010, 23:07:09

aboaabd

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I can't use Editor Mode While writing in forums By Opera Why ??

please help me to find solution for this issue

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23. April 2010, 15:34:17 (edited)

rafaelluik

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And the answer is...: browser sniffing.
And my question is: how can we advice the forum about this issue?
I'll start a topic talking about this issue in a forum I join to get answers.

And my second question is: why the text editor area is so "righted" in the screen?

PS: phpBB based forums' WYSIWYG is broken on Opera. (I need to confirm if the latest phpBB version haves this error)
(WYSIWYG = Editor Mode.)

PS2: you forgot to erase the "Logged in as <username>" line. p

PS3: wrong forum.

23. April 2010, 14:41:07

aboaabd

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This issue is in all forums i brows using opera

Isn't there any Solutions ?? worried worried

25. April 2010, 20:07:38 (edited)

rafaelluik

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I'm investigating this issue.
I discovered that Google Chrome users suffers with the same problem so far.

25. April 2010, 19:53:31

aboaabd

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well, I hope that there is a solution

Thanks for help

27. April 2010, 00:20:53

rafaelluik

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Originally posted by rafaelluik:

PS: phpBB based forums' WYSIWYG is broken on Opera. (I need to confirm if the latest phpBB version haves this error)
(WYSIWYG = Editor Mode.)


Confirmed, the phpBB WYSIWYG reply form is broken on Opera in all versions, it includes the latest (3.0).

Ok... Now that I confirmed that the problems does exists, what are we going to do now?

27. April 2010, 00:44:00

aboaabd

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i don't know sad

27. April 2010, 00:54:03

rafaelluik

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Originally posted by aboaabd:

i don't know :frown:


Don't worry, I'm contacting some people.
In the meanwhile the workaround is go to the forum, go to Settings > Quick Preferences (F12) > Edit Site Preferences > in the last tab select "Identify as Internet Explorer" > OK.

3. May 2010, 11:27:25

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hallvors

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Hi,
I looked at some phpBB demos and installations, and I could not find a rich text editor - is this some add-on thing that's not a part of the standard installation?

What we can do about it: first it needs a little bit testing (what editor is it? where exactly is the problem? does it work 100% if we disable the browser detection/blocking?). Then we complain to the author(s) of the editor component and/or report bugs against phpBB. Finally, we can consider site patching if the problem is generic and common enough, or hurts us on major sites.
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3. May 2010, 11:37:36

Y0Y0

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You sure that's phpBB? Looks very much like vBulletin with which I've had many such problems. My current O 10.10 installations using Win7 are working fine however.


Edit: Yes, that's vBulletin (See the attached screencap ) and I've posted about it several times with little response.

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27. May 2010, 18:20:37

rafaelluik

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I reported the issue in vBulletin official bug reporting forums.
See the thread there.

There's also a thread there saying Opera is adding asterisks to posts with a double space. Which are the no standards compilant, Opera or vBulletin's WYSIWYG? What can be done to fix that?

27. May 2010, 19:34:58

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hallvors

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Originally posted by rafaelluik:

There's also a thread there saying Opera is adding asterisks to posts with a double space.



Opera uses some "non-breaking space" characters when there is more than one space character - those are usually known as the "nbsp" entity and are used to make sure the multiple spaces are not collapsed when laying out the text.

The server doesn't understand these U+00A0 characters and translates them into asterisks.
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27. June 2010, 08:45:11

CyborgAbhi

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Originally posted by rafaelluik:

Originally posted by aboaabd:

i don't know :frown:


Don't worry, I'm contacting some people.
In the meanwhile the workaround is go to the forum, go to Settings > Quick Preferences (F12) > Edit Site Preferences > in the last tab select "Identify as Internet Explorer" > OK.



I selected that "Identify as Internet Explorer" option. Still no wysiwyg editing. sad Not even in Opera forum!

27. June 2010, 09:09:48

CyborgAbhi

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If I select "Identify as Firefox" or "Mask as Firefox/IE", wysiwyg editing gets enabled partially. That is, I can either type or edit, but not both at the same time. Once I'm done with typing, I've to click that edit toggle button, the text area gets disabled and then wysiwyg editing can be done.

28. June 2010, 19:25:08

rafaelluik

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Originally posted by CyborgAbhi:

Not even in Opera forum!

The current Opera forum version has no WYSIWIG.

12. July 2010, 21:04:56

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hallvors

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VBulletin now uses JIRA for bug tracking. Updated URLs:

Lack of WYSIWYG in Opera:
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBIV-7062

Asterisk problem:
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBIV-6873
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21. July 2010, 20:29:53

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hallvors

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Originally posted by hallvors:

The server doesn't understand these U+00A0 characters and translates them into asterisks.



..and the underlying reason for that is that all other browsers return the HTML nbsp entity in the serialized innerHTML string. Only Opera puts the literal U+00A0 character in there. CORE-4308 tracks this issue, and when we've changed this VBulletin should work.
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24. July 2010, 10:42:13

Y0Y0

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FYI, with a new PC with Win7HP and a new, clean install of Opera 10.10, I haven't had this problem in several months of the 4 or 5 VBB boards I use daily. All functions work on all boards.

Actually that's true with both new PCs.

I always wondered if it was a cookie issue or some kind of script blocking because it would work sometimes and not others. Eventually it quit working completely on some VBB boards, but not others.

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12. August 2010, 03:03:05

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hallvors

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Originally posted by Y0Y0:

I haven't had this problem in several months of the 4 or 5 VBB boards I use daily. All functions work on all boards



Great news :-)
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