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Problem with search emails (10.52)
Hi.When I start search emails (I write some text in "Start search" field) sometimes opera dont retrieval emails.
I wrote: "lucy" - 0 results.
But i have 1 email from lucy@wp.pl, and another with "lucy" phrase in email content.
In opera mail i have registered 6 emails account.
This problem occurs from version 8 up till now.
Regards.
First, make sure you right-click in the mail panel and set "show messags from" to all accounts.
Second thing you need to try is make sure the body of the message has been fetched. If you're using low bandwidth mode, you'll need to open the message and tell Opera to fetch the body. If you're using IMAP, you'll need to open the message or go into the account's properties and set "Make all messages available offline".
So, first, try to open and close the lucy messages and then search.
If it's an IMAP account, you should be able to just delete the account and set it up again. That should fix it quickly.
If none of that works, close down Opera and rename/delete the lexicon folder in the mail folder. Then, try all the above again. You may have to open and close each message you have.
If none of that works, you'll have to install another Opera with a fresh profile etc. and import your mail into that using the Opera 7/8/9/10 import option. If that doesn't work, you'll have to set up the account in the new Opera manually and import into that account using the generic mbox import to import the messages from the store folder. (For pop accounts, make sure there are no messages left on the server before importing)
If this problem only happens with a few messages, you could open each and ctrl + s to save each of them as an mbs file. Then, you can import them into Opera and delete the originals.
Second thing you need to try is make sure the body of the message has been fetched. If you're using low bandwidth mode, you'll need to open the message and tell Opera to fetch the body. If you're using IMAP, you'll need to open the message or go into the account's properties and set "Make all messages available offline".
So, first, try to open and close the lucy messages and then search.
If it's an IMAP account, you should be able to just delete the account and set it up again. That should fix it quickly.
If none of that works, close down Opera and rename/delete the lexicon folder in the mail folder. Then, try all the above again. You may have to open and close each message you have.
If none of that works, you'll have to install another Opera with a fresh profile etc. and import your mail into that using the Opera 7/8/9/10 import option. If that doesn't work, you'll have to set up the account in the new Opera manually and import into that account using the generic mbox import to import the messages from the store folder. (For pop accounts, make sure there are no messages left on the server before importing)
If this problem only happens with a few messages, you could open each and ctrl + s to save each of them as an mbs file. Then, you can import them into Opera and delete the originals.
Not sure why it's not showing in All Messages/Sent, but is showing via search.
For the All Messages/Sent view, click the view button on the toolbar, goto show and make sure both "Sent" and "Filtered" are checked.
For the All Messages/Sent view, click the view button on the toolbar, goto show and make sure both "Sent" and "Filtered" are checked.
4. May 2010, 17:24:44 (edited)
Hi,
I'm having the same problem-- all Mail searches return nul results. I see the recommendation above "If none of that works, close down Opera and rename/delete the lexicon folder in the mail folder. Then, try all the above again."
So, first question, any advice on where to find the "lexicon folder"? If you start with an assumption of a windows installation done accepting default locations, so I have looked in
"C:\Program Files\Opera ..."
and also in
"C:\Documents and Settings\Rachel\Application Data\Opera\..."
where next? I don't see anything that's called "lexicon," so that's probably not what I should be looking for? What then? What should a "lexicon file" be called and where would it be?
Okay found it in
"C:\Documents and Settings\Rachel\Local Settings\Application Data\Opera\Opera\mail\lexicon" ... not exactly intuitive, but found it. There are two files, one called "lexicon.axx" and one called "lexicon.bx". What needs deleting? Will I suffer any losses by deleting these? If I rename it, (to something like lexicon.axx.old?) does Opera make a new one, is that how that works?
Secondly, "You may have to open and close each message you have."
Uh, seriously? I can't really have fewer than 30,000 email messages. This can't seriously mean I should spend a weekend opening and closing each one manually. Is there a way to force a complete indexing of email? When I close and re-open Opera there's about a 45-75 second delay in opening mail as the status under the filters reads "Indexing..." I thought that would solve my search problem, but it doesn't.
I have my mail POPed to my PC, so I should have the complete body and headers of all messages on board here. But all searches fail, whether they're for strings that are in the headers or in the body. Sometimes a search will fail and then when I close and re-open opera there are results shown, but they're obviously incomplete. Two examples: 1). I searched for a string that appears in an email address. I got one hit on it. This is a person I correspond with regularly. 2). I had some business with the Office of the Mayor in my town and needed to find those emails. First I made sure I had "All Messages" highlighted, then I searched on "mayor" using the search field above the list of filters, and I got nothing. So I went into the O-> Mail menu and used the Search command from there, again selecting "All Messages." Still nothing. I closed and re-opened Opera several times [because I was trying to get work done and was being distracted b ;-) ], and over the course of doing that I noticed that each time I did it there was a different number of messages displayed. Today I see one "mayor" search has 2 messages and the other 7. Perhaps by tomorrow "search " will finish and find all 10 (or so) messages? Is it just really, really slow? Is there an issue with not deleting old messages making search too encumbered? (Am I really that unusual a user to save most of my old email?).
Halp!! (please!) I'll need to switch to another Mail reader if I can't find old emails, and the integrated mail/rss/browsing is why I like Opera.
thanks,
-Rachel
Version information
Version 10.53
Build 3374
Platform Win32
System Windows XP
XHTML+Voice Plug-in not loaded
Browser identification
Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en) Presto/2.5.24 Version/10.53
I'm having the same problem-- all Mail searches return nul results. I see the recommendation above "If none of that works, close down Opera and rename/delete the lexicon folder in the mail folder. Then, try all the above again."
So, first question, any advice on where to find the "lexicon folder"? If you start with an assumption of a windows installation done accepting default locations, so I have looked in
and also in
"C:\Documents and Settings\Rachel\Application Data\Opera\..."
where next? I don't see anything that's called "lexicon," so that's probably not what I should be looking for? What then? What should a "lexicon file" be called and where would it be?
Okay found it in
"C:\Documents and Settings\Rachel\Local Settings\Application Data\Opera\Opera\mail\lexicon" ... not exactly intuitive, but found it. There are two files, one called "lexicon.axx" and one called "lexicon.bx". What needs deleting? Will I suffer any losses by deleting these? If I rename it, (to something like lexicon.axx.old?) does Opera make a new one, is that how that works?
Secondly, "You may have to open and close each message you have."
Uh, seriously? I can't really have fewer than 30,000 email messages. This can't seriously mean I should spend a weekend opening and closing each one manually. Is there a way to force a complete indexing of email? When I close and re-open Opera there's about a 45-75 second delay in opening mail as the status under the filters reads "Indexing..." I thought that would solve my search problem, but it doesn't.
I have my mail POPed to my PC, so I should have the complete body and headers of all messages on board here. But all searches fail, whether they're for strings that are in the headers or in the body. Sometimes a search will fail and then when I close and re-open opera there are results shown, but they're obviously incomplete. Two examples: 1). I searched for a string that appears in an email address. I got one hit on it. This is a person I correspond with regularly. 2). I had some business with the Office of the Mayor in my town and needed to find those emails. First I made sure I had "All Messages" highlighted, then I searched on "mayor" using the search field above the list of filters, and I got nothing. So I went into the O-> Mail menu and used the Search command from there, again selecting "All Messages." Still nothing. I closed and re-opened Opera several times [because I was trying to get work done and was being distracted b ;-) ], and over the course of doing that I noticed that each time I did it there was a different number of messages displayed. Today I see one "mayor" search has 2 messages and the other 7. Perhaps by tomorrow "search " will finish and find all 10 (or so) messages? Is it just really, really slow? Is there an issue with not deleting old messages making search too encumbered? (Am I really that unusual a user to save most of my old email?).
Halp!! (please!) I'll need to switch to another Mail reader if I can't find old emails, and the integrated mail/rss/browsing is why I like Opera.
thanks,
-Rachel
Version information
Version 10.53
Build 3374
Platform Win32
System Windows XP
XHTML+Voice Plug-in not loaded
Browser identification
Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en) Presto/2.5.24 Version/10.53
Version 12.11
Build 1661
Platform Win32
System Windows 7
Browser identification
Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.11
Build 1661
Platform Win32
System Windows 7
Browser identification
Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.11
4. May 2010, 18:18:06 (edited)
burnout426 meant delete the whole lexicon folder. And with POP3 you should not need to open every message.
First - close Opera.
PARANOIA TELLS YOU TO BACKUP BEFORE YOU DO THIS.
BURN THIS FOLDER TO A DVD. ALL of your mail, filters, account settings, etc are stored here:
C:\Documents and Settings\Rachel\Local Settings\Application Data\Opera\Opera\mail\
This means if anything goes wrong, you can just swap the folder back into place. And with 30,000+ emails it is a good idea to keep a backup of this vital folder!!
Now locate C:\Documents and Settings\Rachel\Local Settings\Application Data\Opera\Opera\mail\lexicon\
And then RENAME that lexicon FOLDER to lexi-duff
Restart Opera and it should reindex everything.
(Give me a few minutes to double check this advice for you...)
Yep - delete (or rename) the lexicon folder. Then restart opera. WAIT for a while so it can reconstruct that index.
It may also help to kick off the consistency check which appeared some point last year.
opera:config#Mail Database Consistency Check Time
Set this to 0 (zero) to force a check of your mail databases. Again allow it some time to wade through the 30,000 messages.
Before you do ANY of this BACKUP FIRST. Not that the above should cause a problem but backing up is always a good idea when tracing a problem like this.
First - close Opera.
PARANOIA TELLS YOU TO BACKUP BEFORE YOU DO THIS.
BURN THIS FOLDER TO A DVD. ALL of your mail, filters, account settings, etc are stored here:
C:\Documents and Settings\Rachel\Local Settings\Application Data\Opera\Opera\mail\
This means if anything goes wrong, you can just swap the folder back into place. And with 30,000+ emails it is a good idea to keep a backup of this vital folder!!
Now locate C:\Documents and Settings\Rachel\Local Settings\Application Data\Opera\Opera\mail\lexicon\
And then RENAME that lexicon FOLDER to lexi-duff
Restart Opera and it should reindex everything.
Yep - delete (or rename) the lexicon folder. Then restart opera. WAIT for a while so it can reconstruct that index.
It may also help to kick off the consistency check which appeared some point last year.
opera:config#Mail Database Consistency Check Time
Set this to 0 (zero) to force a check of your mail databases. Again allow it some time to wade through the 30,000 messages.
Before you do ANY of this BACKUP FIRST. Not that the above should cause a problem but backing up is always a good idea when tracing a problem like this.
Happy Opera user since v3.5x back in the previous Century
Thanks, mallen, that seems to have done the trick! Also it was a good nudge to make me backup, which was in that "oh, yeah, I should do that sometime" category.
-Rachel
-Rachel
Version 12.11
Build 1661
Platform Win32
System Windows 7
Browser identification
Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.11
Build 1661
Platform Win32
System Windows 7
Browser identification
Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.11
Thanks, mallen, that seems to have done the trick! Also it was a good nudge to make me backup, which was in that "oh, yeah, I should do that sometime" category.
-Rachel
-Rachel
Version 12.11
Build 1661
Platform Win32
System Windows 7
Browser identification
Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.11
Build 1661
Platform Win32
System Windows 7
Browser identification
Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.11
As someone who also has a 35,000+ mailbox.... backups are vital. With Opera it is quite easy - just burning that whole \mail\ folder to DVD will be enough. (Though you may want wand.dat from the main Opera Profile folder as well if you don't want to have to re-enter your passwords)
Happy Opera user since v3.5x back in the previous Century
Originally posted by mallen:
And then RENAME that lexicon FOLDER to lexi-duff
Restart Opera and it should reindex everything.
opera:config#Mail Database Consistency Check Time
Nope, this doesnt work for me.
I delete lexicon folder and restart opera.
In new lexicon folder there are 2 files lexicon with null lenght. After few minutes none changes - files are still empy.
Then if I in Search field write something Opera couldnt find anything in my mail accounts.
....
Any help?
Regards, Rafal.
@skurek: It is sounding like something more dramatic is broken with your email. Especially as you have had this problem for so long. It looks like you may just have to export all your email, and then re-import it. Trouble is this will loose any filters you have setup.
I don't know any other answer if deleting the lexicon doesn't bring the search back to life.
I don't know any other answer if deleting the lexicon doesn't bring the search back to life.
Happy Opera user since v3.5x back in the previous Century
11. May 2010, 07:13:14 (edited)
If this doesn't works, try to install Opera 10.10/20 in a new directory.
Close Opera 10.5x
Set the 'mail root directory' in Opera 10.10 in opera:config#Mail|MailRootDirectory to your 10.5x mail directory. Restart Opera 10.10, wait until Opera 10.10 has finished to build the new lexicon files. Exit opera 10.10 wait until the Mail Database Maintenance has finished.
Only, and only if Opera 10.10 has exit, start Opera 10.5x. Opera 10.5x maybe will do another lexicon indexing. But that is ok and after this everything works ok.
Close Opera 10.5x
Set the 'mail root directory' in Opera 10.10 in opera:config#Mail|MailRootDirectory to your 10.5x mail directory. Restart Opera 10.10, wait until Opera 10.10 has finished to build the new lexicon files. Exit opera 10.10 wait until the Mail Database Maintenance has finished.
Only, and only if Opera 10.10 has exit, start Opera 10.5x. Opera 10.5x maybe will do another lexicon indexing. But that is ok and after this everything works ok.
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Kawime, thank you very much. Your solution works! I have tried all the other solutions and had already lost hope of ever finding a solution, but I am very glad my mail index has been restored now.
The solution is absolutely ridiculous of course, and clearly indicates that something is wrong with 10.5x. Why can't 10.5x correctly rebuild the lexicon folder when 10.10 can? Opera, fix this!
Johan
The solution is absolutely ridiculous of course, and clearly indicates that something is wrong with 10.5x. Why can't 10.5x correctly rebuild the lexicon folder when 10.10 can? Opera, fix this!
Johan
Originally posted by jstuyts:
but reinstalling Opera 10.53 is probably a lot easier.
Yes. You just install 10.53 over the top again to get things back to normal. (But, for *just* file associations, you can do that in ctrl + f12 -> advanced -> programs.)
29. May 2010, 03:51:57 (edited)
I just started having this issue again in the last few days. I've repeatedly tried removing/renaming the lexicon folder, the best improvement was that of searching emails SINCE the lexicon was removed, nothing before hand. I installed a fresh copy of 10.53 into another folder and imported the emails, and while that copy had great search functionality, it was filtering my emails horribly!! I thought perhaps I could grab that lexicon and copy it to my previous installation. That now sort of lets me search on most of my email, but doesn't work too well when searching in the filters.
I uninstalled the fresh copy of opera, and tried reinstalling overtop of the installation that is filtering correctly although nolonger searching correctly. That failed to bring back full search functionality as well.
I tried the consistency check a few times before today's efforts, all to no avail. I may attempt it again later tonight.
Are there any other ways of repairing the email search function? Is there an ini file with a search setting that I can look at? A registry entry?
EDIT: The reason it appears my current searches are not working in most of my filters, is because they aren't bringing anything up newer than 2008! I can get search results in my Received box, and in one of my filters that goes back to 2004, but nothing shows up in those searches any more recent than 2008. Very strange. . .
I uninstalled the fresh copy of opera, and tried reinstalling overtop of the installation that is filtering correctly although nolonger searching correctly. That failed to bring back full search functionality as well.
I tried the consistency check a few times before today's efforts, all to no avail. I may attempt it again later tonight.
Are there any other ways of repairing the email search function? Is there an ini file with a search setting that I can look at? A registry entry?
EDIT: The reason it appears my current searches are not working in most of my filters, is because they aren't bringing anything up newer than 2008! I can get search results in my Received box, and in one of my filters that goes back to 2004, but nothing shows up in those searches any more recent than 2008. Very strange. . .
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