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Its St Georges day.
One Time Poster pointed out in a thread yesterday that it was National Jellybean day in the US.Which reminds me that its St Georges Day here in England today.
Although in my opinion St Georges day isn't really celebrated.
Excerp from Telegraph Newspaper:
The enthusiasm for Englishmen to proclaim St George's Day a national holiday is building. A ground swell of patriotism is returning after years of paying no heed to our avenging paragon while tolerating our Celtic neighbours' over-enthusiasm for nailing up griffins, wearing tartan and the lauding of little green men.
I think the English feel a bit hard done by that its not celebrated and scratch their heads, some feeling that they're a dying breed.
I'd like to get people opinions on St Georges day (especially from the English).
Have we lost our national identity?
Obviously, I couldn't help myself with the photo. Sorry:

Yes we should cherish our traditions.
I've often thought that when we play rugby against the All Blacks and they do their Haka, our lads should do the Morris dance at them and blow kisses.
The Kiwis would be afraid to go near them after that!
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Originally posted by TroyMclure:
Don't mention the Morris dancing. We don't mention Morris dancing.
Round my neck of the woods we have something crazier than morris dancing, we have rapper dancing. I don't know just how proud of this tradition I am, since those swords were reportedly good for swiping at women as well as scraping sweat off pit ponies; but my dad is a member of one of the few remaining troupes, and I've taken part in plenty of it myself. As anyone folky will tell you: Morris, Rapper and clog dancing is mostly a good reason to make a pub crawl more fun.
So, putting these things in with St. Georges day I think we should commercialise it a little by adopting a tradition of piniata dragons and have kids go at them with rapper swords and morris sticks.
- Josie Long
One of the links on Wikipedia is to 'Jack the rapper'. lol
Originally posted by TroyMclure:
One of the links on Wikipedia is to 'Jack the rapper'. lol
The new and foreign teams always have odd names - a benefit of not having associations with a specific pit or village.
For example Black Adder, Short Circuit, Silver Flame and Clownfish - all of which are women's teams, not something I encountered until we had a group of American dancers stay with us when I was a teenager. I forget their team's name now - must ask the daddy later. He remembers everything.
I often wonder what makes people take up such a hobby when they've no strong ties to the local area, but I think JTR's site sums it up well: "We assure you, we are only in it for the beer."
Traditions are very often a bit silly (cheese rolling still takes the prize), but I think it's worthwhile that we should keep them going, especially if it's coupled with a public or bank holiday. I wonder if I can get one of my parliamentary candidates to agree to pitch a members bill for a St. Georges Day Bank Holiday in return for an assurance of my vote
- Josie Long
i know one man's meat is another man's poison TroyMclure but I watched a Scottish Morris Dancing Troupe once. About ten years ago went into Glasgow city centre and in an upmarket shopping centre was a troupe or whatever they call them. They were based somewhere near Edinburgh. Thought it strange we should have it up here but I have to be very honest I didn't look on it as a source of jokes. It was quite entertaining and sat and watched them for a time as a number of others did and applauded.
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27. April 2010, 00:50:59 (edited)
Originally posted by TroyMclure:
One Time Poster pointed out in a thread yesterday that it was National Jellybean day in the US.
I'd like to get people opinions on St Georges day (especially from the English).
Have we lost our national identity?
Obviously, I couldn't help myself with the photo. Sorry:
*salutes England *http://www.usdebtclock.org/
"Americans should not go abroad to slay dragons they do not understand in the name of spreading democracy." -President John Quincy Adams
Anyway we are on about St George, England etc which is nothing t do with folk from wonky places. Acorn15 is spot on with Land of Hope and Glory and every time I here it at a parade service it is stirring. Maybe not your fault there thedawgfan you are so far away and too often England and Britain get mixed up in foreign eyes - some English ones too! Jerusalem which Acorn15 alludes to is an English song and again quite stirring too. Both in a much better place than that awful Flower of Scotland which is so damn mawkish. Somewhere i have an old LP I mean to transfer to pc with Land of Hope and Glory, Zadok the Priest and other stuff all grouped together in a fitting title. Crown Imperial.
Originally posted by rjhowie:
Listen young wise one from the wonderful country. I couldn't call anything quits unless my grey cells get more active as that last situation showed your wisdom is greater than mine.
Flattery gets you everywhere.
Originally posted by Juggalo1:
Did you know that St George was a turk and the flag is patront saint for PALESTINE
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Not quite - he was born in Palestine, to a Turkish father.
Why should a holiday be necessary in order to feel patriotic? Why should it need any kind of official recognition at all? If you want to celebrate it, celebrate it.
Think you have a point johnnsaucepn in that one doesn't need a holiday if patriotic. I just think that English folk have been a little slower than their Celtic counterparts in Scotland and Wale in catching up and doing it in a rush now.
Originally posted by rjhowie:
Think you have a point johnnsaucepn in that one doesn't need a holiday if patriotic. I just think that English folk have been a little slower than their Celtic counterparts in Scotland and Wale in catching up and doing it in a rush now.
There has been a certain complacency in English national culture - they've believed for so long now that 'Englishness' is inviolable, they've only just realised that it's been changing for many, many decades now. And it's that that people like the BNP are trading on, that there is some sort of inherent genetic Englishness that other people just don't have.