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GUI trouble on Win7
When I finally got a new computer at work I got my first encounter with Win7. I have (fortunately?) not used Vista between my using XP and the new Win7 experience.The problem is that Opera 10.50, 10.51 and 10.52 seems to have a GUI problem on my new Win7 computer. (I have not got the same problems on my old work computer or on my XP machine at home.)
This is how my search field looks. Or at least where my search field should have been:
(As you can see, it is only an empty bar)
When I am editing the Opera configuration this confirmation bar appears on _all_ tabs:
(I have to click on all tabs to close them)
And finally, when I try to do anything where a web page ask if I am sure I want to do what I am intending, the confirmation box is a bit to small, and some skins does not even have a box:
opera-search.jpg
opera-are-you-sure.jpg
opera-confirm-configuration.jpg
Originally posted by MortenOSlash:
Have you tried with a fresh profile? (http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/opera-profile-creator)*bump*
Anyone?
Originally posted by Nailz:
So my trouble with Opera's skins might have come from something in my user profile? I have a one user installation.Originally posted by MortenOSlash:
Have you tried with a fresh profile? (http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/opera-profile-creator)*bump*
Anyone?
Originally posted by Nailz:
Originally posted by MortenOSlash:
Have you tried with a fresh profile? (http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/opera-profile-creator)*bump*
Anyone?
No. Starting from a fresh profile did no change anything. No search field in the search bar and no borders to boxes.
Am I the only one with this trouble? I do not think it is the OS (Win7) either, as it seems like no other programs fail to produce correct frames, text entry fields and borders on their confirmation boxes, so I believe it is something to do with Opera. I even tried to uninstall, delete all data and reinstall without getting rid of the trouble.
Originally posted by MortenOSlash:
Have you tried with a fresh profile made with Tamil's Opera profile creator (and different skin)?Originally posted by Nailz:
Have you tried with a fresh profile? (http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/opera-profile-creator)
No. Starting from a fresh profile did no change anything. No search field in the search bar and no borders to boxes.
Originally posted by Saskatchewan:
Originally posted by MortenOSlash:
Have you tried with a fresh profile made with Tamil's Opera profile creator (and different skin)?Originally posted by Nailz:
No. Starting from a fresh profile did no change anything. No search field in the search bar and no borders to boxes.Have you tried with a fresh profile? (http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/opera-profile-creator)
As I posted, starting from a fresh profile did not change anything, and to add to it, different skins (even in the new profile) did not help either.
I am getting a bit frustrated, because I can no longer use the search function on this particular installation, since the search bar has no field for entering the search term, and editing Opera's configuration settings is a pain too, as a distorted confirmation box appears as a yellow bar on top of the browser frame in all tabs on the browser when I click OK to leave the configuration, in more or less the same place as the search bar does. I have to click one of the choices twice before it disappears. (A particular pain if I have more than 10-15 tabs open.)
It might be a third party thing, but I do not know enough to find out. I have tried googling it, but find nothing. (Maybe I am not good enough in IT tech English to find a precise enough search term?)
Might it be something called up by javascript that goes wrong?
Originally posted by MortenOSlash:
because I can no longer use the search function on this particular installation
Do you have a different installation(s) of Opera and does it work fine on it? If not: did you try to manually delete Opera profile/settings folders and then install Opera again (you can also try Opera@USB http://www.opera-usb.com/)?
Originally posted by Saskatchewan:
Originally posted by MortenOSlash:
because I can no longer use the search function on this particular installation
Do you have a different installation(s) of Opera and does it work fine on it? If not: did you try to manually delete Opera profile/settings folders and then install Opera again
On the Win7 laptop at work I only have one installation. I uninstalled it and went through to manually delete all I could find, even some of the register entries. However I am still not used to Win7, and further not having used Vista in between (both my former work laptop and my home desktop being XP), so I do not know if I found all the entries that should have been deleted.
Originally posted by Saskatchewan:
(you can also try Opera@USB http://www.opera-usb.com/)?
Wow! I did not have the same trouble with this!
Obviously there is something I have done wrong in my installation the first time I installed on the new Win7 laptop that I did not manage to remove with my uninstallations! What can it be? Do you know where I can find instructions about where I can find and remove absolutely _all_ profile and settings folders?
%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Opera\Opera %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Operawhere %USERPROFILE% = path to Windows' user profile: "C:\Users\[UserName]". This folder is hidden by default, so you may not see it if you go to it with My Computer - you have to enable showing hidden files and folders in Windows.
You should completely remove these two folders, or rename them/copy to a different folder if you have there any important data (bookmarks, saved passwords, mail, etc.) so that you could restore them later.
29. June 2010, 13:41:07 (edited)
Originally posted by Saskatchewan:
In Windows 7 default paths to where Opera stores it's settings are:
%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Opera\Opera %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Operawhere %USERPROFILE% = path to Windows' user profile: "C:\Users\[UserName]". This folder is hidden by default, so you may not see it if you go to it with My Computer - you have to enable showing hidden files and folders in Windows.
You should completely remove these two folders, or rename them/copy to a different folder if you have there any important data (bookmarks, saved passwords, mail, etc.) so that you could restore them later.
I found them and removed them after I uninstalled Opera, but I am afraid the deletion of the folders it did not help. I even restarted the computer in between uninstallation and deletion. The new installation on the C:-drive still gave the same visual errors.
Originally posted by MortenOSlash:
OK. I've got no idea why it doesn't work (you said it worked in Opera@USB, so problem should be in configuration files).I found them and removed them after I uninstalled Opera, but I am afraid the deletion of the folders it did not help. I even restarted the computer in between uninstallation and deletion. The new installation on the C:-drive still gave the same visual errors.
All paths (all default at least) with Opera's configuration files are listed in Paths section of opera:config. Are they the same with those I wrote before?
If yes, my last advice is to install Opera using classic installer (and selecting: one user installation) or simply use Opera@USB version.
Maybe someone else will answer here with some fresh ideas.
Is there anywhere in the registry I can find values that can have gone awry and are now playing me tricks with the GUI? It is so frustrating. Opera@USB does however still not have the problem.
1. The trouble seen on the pictures in my first posting here comes back even if I uninstall, remove all of the Opera folders and Opera user folders and reinstall, and has followed me all version steps from my first install of Opera 10.50 on the new computer.
2. The trouble still comes even if I start a fresh profile with Tamil's Opera profile creator, even if I change Opera skin and even if I change visual theme on Win7.
3. There is however no sign of the trouble if I use Opera@USB.
I believe I then can deduce that any installations done on the laptop will use some kind of setting, plugin or other (probably third party) outside the Opera folders and outside the Opera user folders that is not used by Opera@USB. I further believe that there is where I can correct something that will solve the problem.
Any suggestions?
No-one who can give me the slightest clue about where I can search?I have been through all of opera:config without finding anything I, with my limited understanding of Opera, could identify as the problem, comparing entry by entry the buggy Opera 10.60 on my laptop with the working Opera@USB (10.60 there too).
Now I have uninstalled, restarted, removed the user files, restarted and clean installed Opera 10.60, giving me this as first screen:
first_startup.jpg
OK so far, but I have still got the same problems before any skinning and configuration of appearance is done.
The lack of search field and OK button:
search-field_lack_of.jpg
After I try to change configuration I still get this yellow confirmation bar on _all_ open tabs:
ok-after-change-of-configuration.jpg
If I click any of the Ok or Cancel (I believe it is in English, "Utført" and "Avbryt" in Norwegian) I get this the first time I click (and after the second time I click any of them the yellow bar and the dimming of the web page goes away again):
done-after-configuration.jpg
If I click Details instead (of Ok or Cancel) I get this:
details-after-configuration.jpg
If a web page asks for confirmation (like here, when Gmail wants confirmation for deleting all mails in spam folder) it looks like this:
confirmation-of-web-choice.jpg
I do not know what to do to make Opera work correctly on my job laptop, but since Opera@USB works fine but ordinary clean installed Opera does not (even when reinstalling after deleting all user files) I believe it is problems with some function called up by the ordinary installation of Opera that the Opera@USB does not call up.
Originally posted by artmil:
you are using a skin from opera 10.1x on opera 10.6x...
Change the skin to something compatible with your version or edit the skin.ini and add Fallback foreground=1 and Fallback background=1 to [Options] section.
I have only used the two skins that come with Opera, standard_skin.zip and windows_skin.zip, and I believe they have been updated each time Opera have been updated. In the skin.ini for the skin I use most (windows _skin.zip) the values Fallback foreground=1 and Fallback background=1 are already set under [Options]. They are however not in the default skin (standard_skin.zip), where they both were set to 0. Now I have tried to change them bot to 1 and restart Opera, but it made no difference, so I have changed back again the skin.ini in the default skin.
Originally posted by Saskatchewan:
Just a suggestion, cause I have no other ideas. Do you have full administration rights on that computer?
I have.
Originally posted by Saskatchewan:
Try to run the installer as administrator, anyway.
Now I have tried. No difference
Originally posted by Saskatchewan:
Also, as I suggested before - try to install Opera with classic installer (in different folder than Program files and without separate settings for each user).
This I have a bit of trouble with. I can not seem to find a way to install classic that gives me the option not to have separate user settings. I guess it should be obvious, just that I do not find the way.
16. July 2010, 11:08:33 (edited)
Originally posted by MortenOSlash:
If you're using classic installer (fromhere, select Advanced options), there's an option "Use the same profile for all users on this computer" on the same screen as "Select installation directory".I can not seem to find a way to install classic that gives me the option not to have separate user settings.
PS. I'm also curious about this 10.10 skin, because you said, you're installing Opera 10.5X/10.60. Were you installing 10.10 version before?
I'll ask once again, because you didn't answer this question:
Originally posted by Saskatchewan:
All paths (all default at least) with Opera's configuration files are listed in Paths section of opera:config. Are they the same with those I wrote before?
Originally posted by Saskatchewan:
Originally posted by MortenOSlash:
If you're using classic installer (fromhere, select Advanced options), there's an option "Use the same profile for all users on this computer" on the same screen as "Select installation directory".I can not seem to find a way to install classic that gives me the option not to have separate user settings.
I will try it when I get back on work again after the weekend. (Soon leaving for home today.)
Originally posted by Saskatchewan:
PS. I'm also curious about this 10.10 skin, because you said, you're installing Opera 10.5X/10.60. Were you installing 10.10 version before?
No, I started fresh with 10.5x on this computer, and have not downloaded additional skins. I believe therefore artmil's suggestion might not be the solution, but I tried it anyway to be sure.
Originally posted by Saskatchewan:
I'll ask once again, because you didn't answer this question:
Originally posted by Saskatchewan:
All paths (all default at least) with Opera's configuration files are listed in Paths section of opera:config. Are they the same with those I wrote before?
Sorry, I did not answer that: Yes, they are the same, but I will check closely when I have tried your "all users" solution to see if I have managed to install it right.
Originally posted by Saskatchewan:
Just a suggestion, cause I have no other ideas. Do you have full administration rights on that computer? Try to run the installer as administrator, anyway. Also, as I suggested before - try to install Opera with classic installer (in different folder than Program files and without separate settings for each user).
With classic installer Opera worked as it is supposed to, I.E. just as good as with Opera@USB. It is a kind of solution, sort of, but is not ideal.
I guess it is a local error on my computer, since no-one else seems to have the problem, and it seems somehow to have to do with something Opera uses among the user profile folders. On the other hand neither %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Opera\Opera nor %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera seems to be the source of the trouble, as it does not help to delete them and reinstall from scratch - nor does it help to use the OperaProfileCreator.exe.
As I do not have any clue to what kind of folders or settings files Opera uses which is not used by Opera@USB or Opera installed with classic installer, I have no idea where to look.
(And why do I not seem to get any notifying messages from new postings on this topic by ticking the subscription box when I am posting here? I have tried nearly each time I have posted another message, but the forum seems to keep on forgetting?)
Originally posted by MortenOSlash:
E-mail subscriptions don't work since a long time...(And why do I not seem to get any notifying messages from new postings on this topic by ticking the subscription box when I am posting here? I have tried nearly each time I have posted another message, but the forum seems to keep on forgetting?)