Opera Voice will not install

Opera Voice will not install

Anyone else try to install Opera Voice & have it fail or not save? Seems like when I click "Enable Voice" & it ask me if I want to download, to which I reply YES to... It downloads, then the box unchecks "Enable Voice" and its as if I never clicked it in the first place. Click the box again & we start downloading again.... (rinse & repeat)

Yes. Please search first before posting.

Originally posted by Pesala:

Yes. Please search first before posting.

YES, I did do a search & found it useless as everyone of those post had an answers like yours.... ie.... Search next time.... So I keep clicking links to another post, just like this one with the same answer.... I'm looking for a real answer to the problem.

I guess you will just have to wait then if you're too lazy to click a a couple of links.

Originally posted by Pesala:

I guess you will just have to wait then if you're too lazy to click a a couple of links.

There is a limit... ie.... If someone found this thread, they'd click on your link thinking to find an answer. But your link send someone to another post like this with the same reply, then they'd click that link and yet again find another post just like this one, with the same reply.... Much like I how I have been doing when trying to install voice.... ie.... Check box, box unchecks, check box, box unchecks....ect...ect..ect...

@ TheVisitors - I know - it also appears that a some of the users on this forum are moody twats and have impatient shoddy attitudes when you ask for help - He said that too me "try search" so i did and exactly same happened, all the posts replies are "try search" you click on it and end up at another post saying "please search"... and so on and so on.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

the admin should make a sticky for this silly fault if they cant fix it in the browser its the LEAST they could do...

another user got all shoddy with me cos instructions i followed previously didnt work and i asked for help, he then provides link to page with no instructions and gets moody when I ask for help cos it doesnt work.... grow up...!!!

Originally posted by snadge:

the admin should make a sticky

They made sticky threads for the posting rules and rules of conduct, but apparently you didn't read them, so a sticky thread about Voice wouldn't help at all.

1. Search before posting. Before posting a question or comment, please take the time to search the forum for existing discussions on the subject you are thinking of posting about. If you find an existing thread which seems to describe the problem you are having, post there instead of starting a new thread.

2. No personal attacks. Attack the idea, not the person. Never post negative threads about other forum members.

You guys are contributing to the problem by posting without searching. This thread then gets added to the search results. How many times do we have to reply to the same question? To give a thorough answer we will have to do the same search that you could do for yourselves, unless we have a bookmark handy.

Originally posted by snadge:

all the posts replies are "try search" you click on it and end up at another post saying "please search"... and so on and so on....

Currently the answer is in the second thread of the search results. So if the first thread was no help, try the second, and the third. If that doesn't tell you enough, then try an Advanced Search

There is a help topic about voice, but I wonder how many who post here have read that and are using an OS that supports voice.

Originally posted by Pesala:

I guess you will just have to wait then if you're too lazy to click a a couple of links.

Of course, some might read that as a personal attack.

Suggesting searches is a time honored simplistic reply to inquiries on many boards. While it is also easy to get snarky in response, it is also possible for someone actually trying to help in pointing out some parameters of suggesting searches. Someone so tired of the question might just have the best thread to relate (possibly even bookmarked by them). If they don't care to share that, silence can be golden and if one can't say something nice; maybe some replies best left unposted.

My method and resolution of understanding the Voice issues was indeed searches and looking for the oldest threads. Did I bookmark that? No, but I could probably find the good threads again while putting certain standard replies in a virtual kill-file. Sometimes it's hard to even consider such posters on that list as someone to read at all, even when they do have good information to share.

Originally posted by 3sails:

If they don't care to share that, silence can be golden and if one can't say something nice; maybe some replies best left unposted.

Yet you think it worth replying to my post, without providing any information at all on the original topic, nor any hints on searching.

A typical snarky response from someone who has actually done very little to help others on this forum.

I do think it worth responding to lazy new users who made no more than a cursory effort to search, to remind them of the rules that they should have read before posting. I provided a link to a page of search results, using which those lazy users could find at least one semi-useful thread.

If I had a really useful reply to offer about voice support I would provide it, but there are none that I am aware of. They all say much the same — its currently broken and the only fix is to go back to Opera 10.1.

Originally posted by Pesala:

Originally posted by 3sails:

If they don't care to share that, silence can be golden and if one can't say something nice; maybe some replies best left unposted.

Yet you think it worth replying to my post, without providing any information at all on the original topic, nor any hints on searching.

A typical snarky response from someone who has actually done very little to help others on this forum.

I do think it worth responding to lazy new users who made no more than a cursory effort to search, to remind them of the rules that they should have read before posting. I provided a link to a page of search results, using which those lazy users could find at least one semi-useful thread.

If I had a really useful reply to offer about voice support I would provide it, but there are none that I am aware of. They all say much the same — its currently broken and the only fix is to go back to Opera 10.1.

Nonsense sir,

I did most certainly address the subject matter and of my own suggestions on the matter of searching out information. Perhaps you were busy reacting instead of reading my thoughts on that.

My method and resolution of understanding the Voice issues was indeed searches and looking for the oldest threads. Did I bookmark that? No, but I could probably find the good threads again while putting certain standard replies in a virtual kill-file. Sometimes it's hard to even consider such posters on that list as someone to read at all, even when they do have good information to share.

You may also have missed that it was a suggestion to you while also complimenting what you have offered at times.

If I had a really useful reply to offer about voice support I would provide it, but there are none that I am aware of. They all say much the same — its currently broken and the only fix is to go back to Opera 10.1.

See how easily you put it and could have to the original poster?

@ Pesala - i searched and searched and got sick after 4 or 5 different threads saying "please use search" - you keep POSTING that and eventually all threads will say this and then everyone will be lost in this situation - cant you understand your mistake? lol - you SHOULD give a link to the fix if you know where it is (which you obviously do) - instead your gunna have people posting for help on the issue..

it seems a bit STUPID to have voice support on a browser thats ONLY supported in an OS thats 10 years old... Opera have really out-shined themselves here -> they OBVIOUSLY knew this so why couldnt they have a window pop up saying "OS NOT SUPPORTED" is too much for them to do? or even better-> "OUR BROWSER IS TOO OLD TO WORK PROPERLY ON YOUR COMPUTER" lol

...also - you say "a sticky for voice would be of no use" - erm, yes it would - its an obvious fault that LOTS of people post for help about - in these instances forums put a sticky about common errors - they throw out a new browser with this "broken" feature, of course "loads" of people are gunna come and ask when it doesnt work...

Originally posted by 3sails:

See how easily you put it and could have to the original poster?

See how easy it would have been for the original poster to click the link I provided and find the same information. See how much time you wasted with your response, but still no useful information at all. It is mere speculation about what you would have done if you had an answer.

Originally posted by snadge:

I searched and searched and got sick after 4 or 5 different threads saying "please use search"

Its not my fault if you don't actually read the threads that are linked to.

1. Click the Search first before posting link in my first reply to this thread, or the link I provided in your own thread.
2. Open the first link — reply by Cheesy Fighter, please see this discussion (with the answer).
3. Or, back out of the first link, and open the second one — explanation by Wild Ente that IBM have dropped support for Voice.
4. Or, try the fourth link, and get the same thread referred to by Cheese Fighter in the first. [/listl]
   

   Originally posted by snadge:

   you keep POSTING that and eventually all threads will say this and then everyone will be lost in this situation

   
   They do not all say please search (see above). You did not read them. Anyway, by the time I reply with “please search,” the duplicate thread was already added because someone forgot to read rule 1.
   

   Originally posted by snadge:

   it seems a bit stupid to have voice support on a browser that's only supported in an OS that's 10 years old

   
   When it was added it was not stupid, as most users were then using XP. Removing support after Vista was released would have been stupid. Even now, many users are still using XP (see my sig). In fact, it works in Opera 10.1, but not yet in 10.5x — which is only two and a half months old. Removing it just because they don't yet have time to fix it would be stupid. Who knows? Maybe by 10.54 or 10.55 they will fix it again.
   
   Voice support is provided by IBM via a plugin who have decided to drop support, so what does that have to do with Opera? They did not write the plugin. If the plugin can be made to work again in XP and Win 2000, that is a benefit for some users, so Opera should do it, but its not a high priority as most users are now on Vista or Windows 7.
   
   Providing sticky threads for every issue would not help — there is always someone who doesn't read them, and the more sticky threads there are, the fewer users will read them.
   
   Suggestion: put your OS in your forum signature — its often relevant to the question asked.