great day for those who oppose big-government intrusion in people's lives

great day for those who oppose big-government intrusion in people's lives

It's a great day for those who oppose big-government intrusion in people's lives.

Historic civil-unions bill gets House OK

State House lawmakers yesterday approved a bill that would give same-sex and heterosexual couples the ability to enter into civil unions and enjoy the same rights as married couples under state law.

Nobody can cry about "special rights" here

"Martin Luther King has said it best. The arc of history is long, and once in awhile you get to bend it correctly," said Oshiro, D-33rd ('Aiea, Hālawa Valley, 'Aiea Heights). "And today, we bent it in the right way, towards justice."

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'a long, long road'

Hawai'i could join a handful of other states that have legalized civil unions, 17 years after the Islands became a pioneer on the issue. The state Supreme Court ruled in 1993 that denying same-sex couples the ability to marry was a violation of their equal protection rights under the state Constitution.

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Dennis Arakaki, the executive director of the Hawai'i Family Forum and the Hawai'i Catholic Conference, said religious conservatives and others who want to preserve traditional marriage will be fired up.

"This is not about the church against gays," he said. "It's actually about people standing up for traditional marriage."

Rather funny (un)Holy Mother Church being against gays when it's been protecting pedo priests, isn't it?

Outside in the Rotunda of the state Capitol, though, they sang, hugged and cried in celebration. Voices trembling, they sought to explain how they achieved progress after what appeared until the final hours as another session of disappointment.

Last year, a civil-unions bill passed the House but stalled on the second-to-last day of session. Lambda Legal and the American Civil Liberties Union of Hawai'i had announced a potential lawsuit if lawmakers failed to act this session.

"We knew it. We knew in their hearts that they wanted to do this," said Tambry Young, co-chair of Equality Hawai'i. "And we wanted to give them all the support that we could, and we hope we did that.

"It's been a long, long road."

"I took thee for thy better." Taken from: Hamlet; Shakespeare
In some ways Hawaii overdoes the fairness thing, which is in some ways is fine with me. Gay couples are rather common here, one could say common as dirt. It is a hobby here trying to figure out which partner is assuming the dominant role and which is submissive role. The civil union issue is not a big drama issue here, because in Hawaii, once you figure out what is going on, you can do what you like as long as you do not interfere with anybody else.

Theres been a case over here regarding a relationship cousellors sacking. He was sacked because he refused to give sex therapy to gay couples.
Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/8651417.stm
He is Christian.

Originally posted by Sanguinemoon:

Rather funny (un)Holy Mother Church being against gays when it's been protecting pedo priests, isn't it?

Silly, the pedo priests didn't try to marry their victims so that's perfectly fine.

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Hasn't that always been a national concern?

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Hasn't that always been a national concern?

For the nitwits of the world. It seems they difficulty seeing the other evils in the world. Shall we say a narrow and slightly distorted view. That is very obvious to me.

Originally posted by Sanguinemoon:

Rather funny (un)Holy Mother Church being against gays when it's been protecting pedo priests, isn't it?

At the present time the Church has the lowest rate of any institution.

I think it's an awful thing and completely in line with what is described in Infidel, and I fully agree with Ayaan. However, I'm not quite sure what changed recently? Did the UN stop officially saying child brides are bad?

Originally posted by Frenzie:

I think it's an awful thing and completely in line with what is described in Infidel, and I fully agree with Ayaan. However, I'm not quite sure what changed recently? Did the UN stop officially saying child brides are bad?

I will be completely honest I have written off the UN some 20 years ago. I like most just watch the sound bytes of the girl with the shortest dress. Usually Fox. No doubt about that scheme.

Originally posted by Denny77:

I will be completely honest I have written off the UN some 20 years ago.

It does seem rather... odd, with all of the dictatorships in it.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

with all of the dictatorships in it.

"Thas wha I am talkin about"

I hear you.

Originally posted by Denny77:

With Iran exercising its voice in UN now it will not be a crime to go after 9 year old girls... priests may not be a crime after all they are men. And they will be able to marry the little buggers if they leave the priesthood.The freaking low life world should be very proud.

What on earth do civil unions have to do with any of the rubbish you keep rambling about?

Originally posted by Denny77:

especially you Macallen ....."Equal opportunity blasphemist and insultant."
among other things.

Did I hurt your precious little feelings? Too damn bad. It will happen again.

Originally posted by Macallan:

Did I hurt your precious little feelings? Too damn bad. It will happen again.

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Originally posted by Denny77:

Originally posted by Macallan:

What on earth do civil unions have to do with any of the rubbish you keep rambling about?

You will all end up like soccer moms with you head and ass in your hands....

Ah, so your answer is "nothing whatsoever". Thank you for admitting it.

Meanwhile <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100425/od_afp/australiarightsanimaloffbeat_20100425062533">gay dogs</a> have been refused entry in Australia.

Originally posted by jax:

Meanwhile gay dogs have been refused entry in Australia.

For the linguistically inclined: http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2282

Dogs are even choosing to be gay now... what is this world coming to? It must have spread from humans, as it is highly contagious.

Originally posted by Sanguinemoon:

It's a great day for those who oppose big-government intrusion in people's lives.

Ah, so we can expect the Teabaggers to hold a massive celebration?

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Sanguinemoon:

It's a great day for those who oppose big-government intrusion in people's lives.

Ah, so we can expect the Teabaggers to hold a massive celebration?

Nope, they'll bitch&while about being oppressed

Originally posted by Macallan:

illy, the pedo priests didn't try to marry their victims so that's perfectly fine.

I forgot. My bad.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Ah, so we can expect the Teabaggers to hold a massive celebration?

Well I think allowing people the right to choose their partner might be Big Government, which oppresses them....

Dogs are even choosing to be gay now... what is this world coming to? It must have spread from humans, as it is highly contagious.

Thats a cracker!!

Originally posted by TroyMclure:

Dogs are even choosing to be gay now... what is this world coming to? It must have spread from humans, as it is highly contagious.

Thats a cracker!!

A gay jesus cracker?

Originally posted by TroyMclure:

Dogs are even choosing to be gay now... what is this world coming to? It must have spread from humans, as it is highly contagious.

Thats a cracker!!

Every dog has his day...

Originally posted by grysmn:

It is a hobby here trying to figure out which partner is assuming the dominant role and which is submissive role.

Surely, you have something better to do.

Try knitting of pinochle.