Request: Rename to Omail

Request: Rename to Omail

Request: Rename Fastmail to Omail.

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I'm not sure if that would be good, FastMail is already a very recognized name to be changed.
I'm +1 for moving operamail.com users to FastMail.fm or integrating it into My Opera and improving the service in general but I think Opera Software already has in mind what it wants to do (of course they must have thought of that before buying the webmail company).

Originally posted by DanielHendrycks:

Request: Rename Fastmail to Omail.

Why? What's the point? Why "Omail"?

Originally posted by prd3:

Why? What's the point? Why "Omail"?

Google - gmail.com
Yahoo - ymail.com

Opera - omail.com

You get it? Also its short and easy to remember.

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and bring it up to par with hotmail and yahoo in terms of features and enormous storage space

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

I'm not sure if that would be good, FastMail is already a very recognized name to be changed.

I'm +1 for moving operamail.com users to FastMail.fm or integrating it into My Opera and improving the service in general but I think Opera Software already has in mind what it wants to do (of course they must have thought of that before buying the webmail company).

I do agree that it could be confusing, however since FastMail is such a popular service Opera should put their mark on it. Whether it be OMail (which i like personally) or OperaMail.

And YES for integrating it into Operamail.com, and My Opera!

Originally posted by samMD:

and bring it up to par with hotmail and yahoo in terms of features and enormous storage space

definitely needed. here is where My Opera "integration" could help: every member already haves 2GB of space.

A user named Mathman gave me the recommendation of this thread's request being OpMail instead of Omail. Both are good names IMO.

I agree with Rafael. With respect to the existing Fastmail users and customers, I have to say I strongly oppose Daniel's proposal for a blanket change of product name.

I am not against launch of a new service named omail (or OpMail) alongside the existing fastmail service, with a provision for the existing user/customer to change to an equivalent @omail.com address, or having an equivalent @omail.com address as alternative/secondary. (And same goes for the existing operamail.com user/customer)

Originally posted by LithiumRain:

however since FastMail is such a popular service Opera should put their mark on it.

We don't want to alienate and drive away the existing users/customers either.

Originally posted by mimi_s_mum:

We don't want to alienate and drive away the existing users/customers either.

Oh of course not! The key is to keep the feel of FastMail alive while Opera-fying it.

Originally posted by mimi_s_mum:

We don't want to alienate and drive away the existing users/customers either.

If the name would change users would not leave in herds just for that. Let's say Opera was acquired by Oracle and it was renamed to The Oracle Browser; would herds of people leave their browser just for a change in name?

Originally posted by ouzoWTF:

Originally posted by prd3:

Why? What's the point? Why "Omail"?

Google - gmail.com
Yahoo - ymail.com

Actually, it's mail.yahoo.com. And it's called "Yahoo Mail", not "YMail".

You get it? Also its short and easy to remember.

I fail to see why Opera should be doing this. There's no reason whatsoever. Because Google does it? LOL.

Originally posted by DanielHendrycks:

Request: Rename Fastmail to Omail.

Not sure on this one. "Omail" sounds cheesy when spoken. I also don't hear anyone refer to Yahoo Mail as Ymail. With Gmail, it's different. It sounds cool and that's what people refer to it as (although, depending where you're at, it might be referred to as Google Mail instead).

I also don't like the idea of changing the name from Fastmail or changing the fastmail.fm domain. They sound too cool to change.

I think it'd be cool if Opera just created an Opera-specific, customized Webmail UI for the fastmail backend, put it on http://operamail.com/ and called it "Opera Mail". They could even add a (Powered by Fastmail!) in there to make it sound even better. It'd then of course still be @operamail.com and could be intergrated with my.opera.com in some way. As to whether you could use example@operamail.com to log into fastmail.fm to use the fastmail UI instead and vice versa, that would depend on how things go first.

Originally posted by prd3:

Actually, it's mail.yahoo.com. And it's called "Yahoo Mail", not "YMail".

Curious, I have an address similar to name@ymail.com...

Originally posted by ouzoWTF:

Originally posted by prd3:

Actually, it's mail.yahoo.com. And it's called "Yahoo Mail", not "YMail".

Curious, I have an address similar to name@ymail.com...

The service is still called "Yahoo Mail", and most addresses are @yahoo.com.

*Prd3 ignores Gmail*

Originally posted by burnout426:

"Omail" sounds cheesy when spoken.

Opmail?

Originally posted by DanielHendrycks:

Opmail?

Awkward to pronounce. I like Omail better, fwiw.

Originally posted by DanielHendrycks:

*Prd3 ignores Gmail*

Not at all, but it was presented as a list indicating that "everyone else is doing it". Not only is that wrong, but just because someone else is doing something doesn't make it the right thing to do for Opera.

And "Omail" would be an insanely crappy name anyway.

I totally disagree to the service being forcibly renamed "omail" (or anything else for that matter). I only want to continue with it if I keep my existing "fastmail.co.uk" address.

It would be far more sensible if, instead, "omail.com" or whatever were added to the existing FM domains -- over 100 so far. That way everyone can be happy.

-1, I think "Omail" sounds (to me) like some sort of breakfast that has been in the trash can for a week or 2...
I would prefer if they just called it operamail (and upgraded both fastmail and operamail.com to have pop3 in the free accounts with at least 2 or 3GB of space)

Originally posted by DanielHendrycks:

Rename Fastmail to Omail.

I may be an Opera employee but I am also a long term FastMail user. Personally I am not keen on the name omail, though I see no problem with adding omail.com (or something else along those lines) to the vast list of domain names you can already choose between.

Indeed I don't really see the problem with retaining the FastMail brand. It is a great brand built up over many years. Indeed many companies keep old strong brands when they acquire a company. Consider SUSE and Novell or perhaps more relevant to a discussion on mail services, Hotmail and Microsoft. (note: This would not prevent having an omail or operamail alongside, powered by FM's technology.)

I would be happy enough with what we did when we acquired AdMarvel, simply placing 'An Opera Company' on the home page.

P.S. This is outside of my area, so these are just opinions. I have not been involved in the discussions around this (I have been mainly focussing on the upcoming Opera Beta of late), hence I don't yet know exactly what is planned.

-100 Omail, Opmail... Why not just call it Oatmeal.

Seriously, FastMail already have a solid & large fan base equivalent to Opera, totally changing or eliminate the brandname will destroy the loyalty of the longtime fan base. If you want to maintaining a good relationship with the valuable fan base, the brandname must be recognizable with the older brandname after the merger. We need to show respect to the well established brandname & it's customer.

Something like "Opera FastMail" should be good enough, you don't spend millions to acquire a brandname & destroy it...

I would be completely satisfied having an omail.com domain as a choice. Of course existing addresses should not be changed.

Originally posted by g4mby:

You'll have to go with the something else as omail.com is registered to UK mobile phone company Orange and has been since 1996!

According to whois.net the domain belongs to a company named Melbourne IT, "a world leader in domain name registrations and related online business solutions." I think the domain is purchasable...

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Originally posted by dude09:

Opera FastMail

Ok, after heavily considering the long term people I think that the name you suggested would be a wonderful option.

And when your mail fails to arrive you can say ono.mail

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P.S. I have been a user of Fastmail since well, a long time, however the member only version, i.e. free.
So, Opera, please don't mess with it!

-1 for a brand name change (there are long term users there!)

+1 for a additional, brand-new domain related to Opera name (:

Why not simply registering opera.mail (which could redirect to a MyOpera branded FastMail interface) and every user gets a username@my.opera.com email address? The "MY" part would still safely distinguish these from the opera employee email addresses (name@opera.com).

But whatever you do, you HAVE TO improve the free version! 10MB and 45 day inactivity time is ridiculous! At least 1GB, and no inactivity time (and keep IMAP of course!) would be the least, to be a contender for gmail etc...

@up
well, I was hoping for a nice username (*) and if the params improve (mainly space-wise, inactivity time doesn't bother me, and IMAP is a must) I would gladly dump gmail... and of course setting a jabber server for the same ID would be awesome!

(*) not that I don't like my nickname, but I would like to use my regular first name as an ID (;

Originally posted by Hades32:

no inactivity time

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a determined time to let the username free for another person is needed (at least 1 year).
that's Twitter biggest fault, they never let deleted usernames free.

Originally posted by dude09:

Something like "Opera FastMail"

+1 !!

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

Originally posted by Hades32:

no inactivity time

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a determined time to let the username free for another person is needed (at least 1 year).
that's Twitter biggest fault, they never let deleted usernames free.

ok, >= 1a would be fine
But 45d is simply too short.

Originally posted by dude09:

Opera FastMail

I actually like that better too.

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Originally posted by lwiczek:

-1 for a brand name change (there are long term users there!)

+1 for a additional, brand-new domain related to Opera name (:

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