Fundamentalist Muslims flip out over a cartoon (again)

Fundamentalist Muslims flip out over a cartoon (again)

Yet again, radical fundamentalist Muslims have flipped out over a depiction of their Prophet Muhammad.
This time is was over a South Park episode depicting Muhammad being in a group of notable religious icons called the "Super Best Friends". The Super Best Friends is a group of major religious figures including Jesus, Buddha, Moses, Joseph Smith, Krishna, Lao Tzu, Muhammad and Sea Man (which the other characters jokingly pronounce as "Semen") who defend the world against evil (except for Buddha who doesn't really believe in evil). As is known to anyone who has ever watched an episode of South Park, they are very equal opportunity to whom/what they poke fun at or make fun of.

This is not the first time Muhammad has appeared in a South Park episode, yet this most recent episode has garnered the most attention. In 2005, cartoon depictions of Muhammad became controversial during the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy. The creators of South Park returned to this theme in later episodes, parodying censorship attempts.The 2006 episode Cartoon Wars Part II contained an image of Muhammad, however this was removed by Comedy Central before airing.The 2010 episode 200 contained a "depiction" of Muhammad inside a bear-suit, which, in the next episode, was revealed to be Santa, and further controversy ensued, with one group, "Revolution Muslim", warning that South Park's creators would "probably wind up like Theo van Gogh". Around this time, the original Super Best Friends episode was removed from the South Park Studios website, though it can still be viewed in the Canadian Comedy Central website.

So the question is, why does Comedy Central continue to censor Muhammad? We in the West are not under Sharia Law, and as we are guaranteed Freedom of Speech, we should not have to censor an ancient myth just to appease a bunch of fanatics who adhere to an ancient book of literature.

It is believed that a failed car bomb in New York was the result of this most recent episode depicting Muhammad.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/7671750/South-Park-The-most-dangerous-show-on-television.html
"Although details remain unclear, one possibility being investigated by police is that the bomb was placed near the New York headquarters of South Park's owners, Viacom, by angry Islamists in revenge for the cartoon series' irreverent treatment of their prophet Mohammed."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/22/south-park-mohammed-censo_n_547484.html

Please pardon the shouting, but IT'S A FREAKIN CARTOON!!!!

Publish some more mohammed cartoons and hope these <censored> get a collective heart attack and let natural selection run its course
Last time I checked that 'ban' on depictions of the guy ( or recognizable people in general ) was a mere suggestion and applies to muslims only. It's not like there are no pictures of him made by muslims.

I'll just have to link to this again.

http://www.nrc.nl/opinie/article1654061.ece/The_Right_to_Offend

I am a staunch supporter of Ayaan. She's my hero.

Having a copyright doesn't exempt something from ridicule either. Besides, you can't exactly copyright not depicting something.

And all the historical images should be public domain anyway by now

Originally posted by dude09:

Yes you can. Just copyright the word Muhammad as a character's name in Koran, then sue anyone that mentioned "Muhammad".

In what country does the copyright law that allows this exist? Saudi Arabia?

Originally posted by dude09:

Yes you can. Just make Muhammad as the mascot of Islam & then you can copyright it.

That one sentence is probably more offensive than that entire Southpark episode.

Seriously,if muslims are to be shown all the injustice jesus suffered in the hands of cartoonist,i think the'll all shush.what the H is all this fuming about.Besides,jesus is also a prophet(so they say)I believe all this offended prophets should come down to show us their frowning faces.Ever seen jesus on a diasper! Ever seen him with heavy triceps and biceps like that of great khali? Just sheer Islamic radicalism

I am sure the sin of this contemporary world is far ahead of that of Sodome and Gomorrah. And only God knows best why He allows it to continue!

Originally posted by DANBUZU:

I am sure the sin of this contemporary world is far ahead of that of Sodome and Gomorrah. And only God knows best why He allows it to continue!

Well, either there is no god or he doesn't give a shit. Take your pick.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

In what country does the copyright law that allows this exist? Saudi Arabia?

Islamic countries, which enforcing Sharia Laws (aka God's law). When you get accused sued & failed to prove your innocent found guilty of a crime known as Blasphemy, the punishment is DEATH.
But it seems the latest trend is blow you up into pieces before the trial... instead of stoned you to death.
They already copyright "Allah", so if you mention that word in any Islamic county, you're dead meat.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

That one sentence is probably more offensive than that entire Southpark episode.

Oh crap. I probably need to apply for protection program...

Guys please! Muslim pray to Allah and not Mohammed (peace be upon him).

And let's not make a mockery of other people's religion. That's personal! If you have nothing good to say, then say nothing at all!

Keep it simple.

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

Guys please! Muslim pray to Allah and not Mohammed (peace be upon him).

And let's not make a mockery of other people's religion. That's personal! If you have nothing good to say, then say nothing at all!

Keep it simple.

U're right bros

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

Guys please! Muslim pray to Allah and not Mohammed (peace be upon him).

How does that matter? Some of them are issuing freaking death threats over Santa in a bear costume who was said to be Muhammed.

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

And let's not make a mockery of other people's religion. That's personal! If you have nothing good to say, then say nothing at all!

Originally posted by Martin Niemoeller:

Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
Als sie die Juden holten, habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Jude.
Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.

Or in English:

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me--
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

In this case it's "merely" freedom of expression.

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

Muslim pray to Allah and not Mohammed (peace be upon him).

Who suggested otherwise?

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

And let's not make a mockery of other people's religion.

I am not mocking anyone's religion.
I am pointing out the absolute ridiculousness of fundamentalism.

I am no Muslim, nor am I bound by any Islamic law. Islamic law applies only to Muslims, and as such, if I want to spray paint a picture of Muhammad on a local wall, that is my inherent right to do so. When one lives in a democracy, freedoms are granted to you. Fundie Muslims do not seem to grasp that anyone in the West has a right to make fun of any thing, any religion, any religious leader, any political leader, any celebrity, etc.

This goes back to one of my main issues with the 3 Abrahamic religions: if any one of the 3 were the official religion of the US, we'd damn well be living like we were in the 7th century or earlier. To that I say, No Thank you.

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

That's personal!

No it's not. Not when your religious beliefs threaten a country over a fu**ing cartoon, it is quite serious.
Fundamentalism will be the death of religion.

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

And let's not make a mockery of other people's religion. That's personal!

Nonsense. It's your right to believe any nonsense you want, it's my right to make fun of whatever the hell I want.

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

If you have nothing good to say, then say nothing at all!

Heed your own advice

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

Guys please! Muslim pray to Allah and not Mohammed (peace be upon him).

How does that matter? Some of them are issuing freaking death threats over Santa in a bear costume who was said to be Muhammed.

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

And let's not make a mockery of other people's religion. That's personal! If you have nothing good to say, then say nothing at all!

Originally posted by Martin Niemoeller:

Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
Als sie die Juden holten, habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Jude.
Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.

Or in English:

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me--
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

In this case it's "merely" freedom of expression.

What you gonna do when they come for you. what you gonna do when they come for you:sing:

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

Guys please! Muslim pray to Allah and not Mohammed (peace be upon him)

Actually they, like Christians et al, pray to thin air and imaginary demons. They only think they are praying to someone.

Reality bites.

Originally posted by Macallan:

Well, either there is no god or he doesn't give a shit. Take your pick.

I pick my nose.

Originally posted by garydenness:

Actually they, like Christians et al, pray to thin air and imaginary demons. They only think they are praying to someone.



Reality bites.

Some people pray to real trees, real earth, real statues of Mary and Jesus, real statues of Muham... oh wait.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/04/times-square-bomb-barack-obama
This fellow has been arrested as the suspect in the failed bombing attempt in NYC in front of Comedy Central's NY office:













"Shahzad, a newly naturalised US citizen, has three university degrees, including an MBA. He recently visited Pakistan, where police confirmed that he came from Nazimabad, a middle-class neighbourhood in Karachi. Officials said that Shahzad arrived in Pakistan on 3 July last year and left in early August. During that trip he reportedly travelled to Peshawar, on the edge of the tribal belt where the army is fighting the Taliban."

Originally posted by Frenzie:

real statues of Mary and Jesus

I know you know better than that. But I do try to find the best inanimate object I can find,

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

This fellow has been arrested as the suspect in the failed bombing attempt in NYC in front of Comedy Central's NY office

In 2008 there were 34,017 traffic fatalities in the U.S. Imagine if Muslims were responsible for 100 of those deaths.

Jesus, Mary, Muhammad!

Perspective ain't everything, but it helps.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/04/times-square-bomb-barack-obama
This fellow has been arrested as the suspect in the failed bombing attempt in NYC in front of Comedy Central's NY office:













"Shahzad, a newly naturalised US citizen, has three university degrees, including an MBA. He recently visited Pakistan, where police confirmed that he came from Nazimabad, a middle-class neighbourhood in Karachi. Officials said that Shahzad arrived in Pakistan on 3 July last year and left in early August. During that trip he reportedly travelled to Peshawar, on the edge of the tribal belt where the army is fighting the Taliban."

HANDSOME:heart:

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Yet again, radical fundamentalist Muslims have flipped out over a depiction of their Prophet Muhammad.
This time is was over a South Park episode depicting Muhammad being in a group of notable religious icons called the "Super Best Friends". The Super Best Friends is a group of major religious figures including Jesus, Buddha, Moses, Joseph Smith, Krishna, Lao Tzu, Muhammad and Sea Man (which the other characters jokingly pronounce as "Semen") who defend the world against evil (except for Buddha who doesn't really believe in evil). As is known to anyone who has ever watched an episode of South Park, they are very equal opportunity to whom/what they poke fun at or make fun of.

This is not the first time Muhammad has appeared in a South Park episode, yet this most recent episode has garnered the most attention. In 2005, cartoon depictions of Muhammad became controversial during the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy. The creators of South Park returned to this theme in later episodes, parodying censorship attempts.The 2006 episode Cartoon Wars Part II contained an image of Muhammad, however this was removed by Comedy Central before airing.The 2010 episode 200 contained a "depiction" of Muhammad inside a bear-suit, which, in the next episode, was revealed to be Santa, and further controversy ensued, with one group, "Revolution Muslim", warning that South Park's creators would "probably wind up like Theo van Gogh". Around this time, the original Super Best Friends episode was removed from the South Park Studios website, though it can still be viewed in the Canadian Comedy Central website.

So the question is, why does Comedy Central continue to censor Muhammad? We in the West are not under Sharia Law, and as we are guaranteed Freedom of Speech, we should not have to censor an ancient myth just to appease a bunch of fanatics who adhere to an ancient book of literature.

It is believed that a failed car bomb in New York was the result of this most recent episode depicting Muhammad.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/7671750/South-Park-The-most-dangerous-show-on-television.html
"Although details remain unclear, one possibility being investigated by police is that the bomb was placed near the New York headquarters of South Park's owners, Viacom, by angry Islamists in revenge for the cartoon series' irreverent treatment of their prophet Mohammed."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/22/south-park-mohammed-censo_n_547484.html

Please pardon the shouting, but IT'S A FREAKIN CARTOON!!!!

Please pardon the shouting, but IT'S A FREAKIN CARTOON!!!!

oh dear too much anti athiesm coming out .
Concidering the only ones to take the piss out of their prophets happend to be the west
what was it Jesus walking down the road in a nappy and singing i will surivive
goes to show the mentality of so called peace loving assholes .
I am all for the muslims getting up in arms over the picture we would not want the Prophet mohamed depicted of a clown would or would we ????
get a grip nick my patience is wearing thin these days Man .

Pls we should restpect religions!

At the end of the day its a cartoon dont like it then dont watch it.

Originally posted by DANBUZU:

Pls we should restpect religions!

Why exactly should one ( or some ) particular brands of silly superstition get special protection?

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

what was it Jesus walking down the road in a nappy and singing i will surivive

Some fundies would get their knickers in a twist. Your point is ... ?
Let's see:


Or what about this one:


btw.

Originally posted by DANBUZU:

Pls we should restpect religions!

Religion never did get a whole lot of respect on these boards. Nothing new there, and no less than Jesus told us long ago to expect this kind of response. Muhammad probably said something similar, but since I've never read the Quran I can't say for sure.

One thing is for sure: If you want respect for your particular set of beliefs, I don't think I would go about it by setting up car bombs and encouraging children to blow themselves up for the glory of the faith. That only makes adherents to your beliefs seem like raving lunatics, and lunatics never get any respect. Plenty of fear maybe, but no respect. (Quickie note: The Christian religion has had more than its fair share of raving lunatics, and they don't help get the message of Christ out at all. They hinder it more than all the enemies of the faith could ever hope for.)

Originally posted by Macallan:

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

what was it Jesus walking down the road in a nappy and singing i will surivive

Some fundies would get their knickers in a twist. Your point is ... ?
Let's see:


Or what about this one:


btw.

what a load of ballacks i prefer clowning very bad drawing would you not see
I WILL SURVIVE :clown:

spot me im the one in white

After some caricatures posted in an older thread by you-know-who...

http://friendlyatheist.com/2010/05/04/update-on-wisconsin-college-atheist-group-drawing-muhammad-on-campus/

Just because some people are ATHEISTS, all other people shouldn't pray! For someone who is not even 25 but has a know all attitude, simply shows arrogance and ignorance.

And the other guy? So glued to his laptop, his girlfriend don't get his attention. He forgets to go to church. So once again, the bandit crew could just stop clowning with religion?

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

Just because some people are ATHEISTS, all other people shouldn't pray!

Alright, show a quote. Who said that and where? Be specific.

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/04/times-square-bomb-barack-obama
This fellow has been arrested as the suspect in the failed bombing attempt in NYC in front of Comedy Central's NY office:


"Shahzad, a newly naturalised US citizen, has three university degrees, including an MBA. He recently visited Pakistan, where police confirmed that he came from Nazimabad, a middle-class neighbourhood in Karachi. Officials said that Shahzad arrived in Pakistan on 3 July last year and left in early August. During that trip he reportedly travelled to Peshawar, on the edge of the tribal belt where the army is fighting the Taliban."

HANDSOME:heart:

Kiss his probing ass good bye sweetheart.

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

I WILL SURVIVE

Only country boys survive....and you ain't one son.

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

Just because some people are ATHEISTS, all other people shouldn't pray!

Who said anything remotely like this? And where?
Please stop making up nonsense.

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

For someone who is not even 25 but has a know all attitude, simply shows arrogance and ignorance.

Arrogance and ignorance - sounds more like the guy who keeps spewing false accusations.

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

So once again, the bandit crew could just stop clowning with religion?

And you should simply stop clowning.

reddit comment

A Muslim telling non-muslims what they can or can't draw a picture of is like a Hindu person telling a Muslim not to eat beef because it's against Hinduism. It's not the intent, it's the scope. There is a BIG difference between enforcing religious edicts on people within a religion and trying to force people of other religions to adhere to your personal belief system.

Originally posted by reddit:

There is a BIG difference between enforcing religious edicts on people within a religion and trying to force people of other religions to adhere to your personal belief system.

That's not OK either. Ex-Muslims are widely harassed by their "friends" for trying to leave the religion. The same happens with Christians, but that's more psychological and less physical. I suppose you could say that's also covered by this, but it reads too much like "they can have the sharia among themselves" to me, and that's just not the case.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

widely harassed by their "friends" f

Harassed:........ If he or she happens to be family, why shit just cut their throats.

Just one of the reasons they get no respect from this old man.

Tell you something Macallan. I don't care what you think of me. And I have nothing to prove to you. Maybe all might sound as entertainment to you. Then, I think the idea of posting nonsense to increase the number of post, is really not cool!

On the other hand one might think a certain individual lacks religious conviction and trying to fill the emptiness inside will attack religion. Such people need a prayer. All the books in the world won't make you believe!

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

Then, I think the idea of posting nonsense to increase the number of post, is really not cool!

i have yet to see a post coming from you, that is not some nonsensical, uninformed or naive bs.

is that what they are mad at?

Originally posted by NoobSaibot:

i have yet to see a post coming from you, that is not some nonsensical, uninformed or naive bs.

Where have you been? Mind yourself!
I'm not here to prove you otherwise.

Keep it simple.

Originally posted by Denny77:

Harassed:........ If he or she happens to be family, why shit just cut their throats.

No stoning?

Originally posted by Frenzie:

No stoning?

not unless you cross that line bub.

or this?

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

Then, I think the idea of posting nonsense to increase the number of post, is really not cool!

Then why do you keep posting nonsense like this?

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

On the other hand one might think a certain individual lacks religious conviction and trying to fill the emptiness inside will attack religion. Such people need a prayer. All the books in the world won't make you believe!

See, so much nonsense. Methinks hypocrisy comes with religion in way too many cases.
What good are convictions you can't support? Obviously you can't support yours. Instead you keep spewing nonsense and childish personal attacks.

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

Originally posted by NoobSaibot:

i have yet to see a post coming from you, that is not some nonsensical, uninformed or naive bs.

Where have you been? Mind yourself!
I'm not here to prove you otherwise.

Yup, nonsensical, uninformed, naive bullshit. Are you sure you understood his statement?

(Checking area to make sure no weapons are laying about. Wouldn't want these guys hurting each other.)

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

and trying to fill the emptiness inside

Please elaborate on this.

Originally posted by Thabotizz:

So once again, the bandit crew could just stop clowning with religion?

Perhaps the religious lot could either prove their outlandish claims for once?
That would no doubt calm the waters.

Typical tea baggers also......

Originally posted by Jaybro:

In 2008 there were 34,017 traffic fatalities in the U.S. Imagine if Muslims were responsible for 100 of those deaths.

Jesus, Mary, Muhammad!

Perspective ain't everything, but it helps.

Yup. Cars kill. This car just happened to kill nobody, and the NYC cops made sure it won't kill in the future. A victory for humanity.

Originally posted by Denny77:

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/04/times-square-bomb-barack-obama
This fellow has been arrested as the suspect in the failed bombing attempt in NYC in front of Comedy Central's NY office:


"Shahzad, a newly naturalised US citizen, has three university degrees, including an MBA. He recently visited Pakistan, where police confirmed that he came from Nazimabad, a middle-class neighbourhood in Karachi. Officials said that Shahzad arrived in Pakistan on 3 July last year and left in early August. During that trip he reportedly travelled to Peshawar, on the edge of the tribal belt where the army is fighting the Taliban."

HANDSOME:heart:

Kiss his probing ass good bye sweetheart.

you fancie me i am a man i knew it your GAY MWAH

Originally posted by Denny77:

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

I WILL SURVIVE

Only country boys survive....and you ain't one son.

One min you say kiss my ass sweet heart and now i am your son YOU PERV make your mind up suckkkkerrrrr :clown:

Originally posted by Denny77:

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/04/times-square-bomb-barack-obama
This fellow has been arrested as the suspect in the failed bombing attempt in NYC in front of Comedy Central's NY office:


"Shahzad, a newly naturalised US citizen, has three university degrees, including an MBA. He recently visited Pakistan, where police confirmed that he came from Nazimabad, a middle-class neighbourhood in Karachi. Officials said that Shahzad arrived in Pakistan on 3 July last year and left in early August. During that trip he reportedly travelled to Peshawar, on the edge of the tribal belt where the army is fighting the Taliban."

HANDSOME:heart:

Kiss his probing ass good bye sweetheart.

you fancie me i am a man i knew it your GAY MWAH

Originally posted by Denny77:

Originally posted by Frenzie:

widely harassed by their "friends" f

Harassed:........ If he or she happens to be family, why shit just cut their throats.

Just one of the reasons they get no respect from this old man.

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

probing ass

Do you get it........Three degrees and he tries to blow up N.Y. with firecrackers.. oh yes.... I say rid the world of all you deceiving bastards...

edit: only fools are fooled.

Originally posted by Denny77:

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

probing ass

Do you get it........Three degrees and he tries to blow up N.Y. with firecrackers.. oh yes.... I say rid the world of all you deceiving bastards...

edit: only fools are fooled.

aww

Like I said only fools are fooled.

juggalos4jesus.jpg

Originally posted by Museatlantis:

At the end of the day its a cartoon dont like it then dont watch it.

Exactly!

Southpark and it's creators love to insult different races, religions, sexes, nationalities, and cultural groups for shock value. If you're uptight and don't like that kind of humor then don't watch it.

Muhammad should not have been censored in that episode. Don't you think dressing him up in a bear suit is more insulting anyway?

I'm sure there are many devout christians out there who aren't happy with the way they portray jesus...yet he still made his usual appearance.

Originally posted by jessheartsben:

Muhammad should not have been censored in that episode. Don't you think dressing him up in a bear suit is more insulting anyway?

I think the creators were playing on the Muhammad teddy bear incident that almost cost a teacher her Head.