Opera needs faster Startup

Opera needs faster Startup

No matter what opera is my favorite browser. However, It's startup is not that fast compared to chrome.
Opera used to be fast on startup but not anymore.

My test:
1. I clicked on Opera icon than,
2. I clicked on chrome icon

chrome starts in a blitz.
I press "g" in address bar, it fill rest of as "www.google.com"
i press enter
it opened google site.
I entered search word and searched, google opened search result page.
opera starts after few more second or so.

it shows how practically fast chrome is compare to opera.
I am not criticizing opera but it is something need work to feel user that it is amazing fast.
As I told, no matter what Opera is my favorite browser all times.
Opera catch up browsing speed as it has too due to though competetion by Chrome.

Originally posted by jasmin9782:

No matter what opera is my favorite browser. However, It's startup is not that fast compared to chrome.

Opera used to be fast on startup but not anymore.

This, of course, depends on your computer and your Opera installation. Just looking through reviews, Opera 10 does seem to start slower than on Windows 7 machines (or, rather, everything else starts faster).

But like on my ancient XP machine, Opera starts the fastest.

May be u r right.
I am using it on Windows 7 64x with 4GB RAM
But, it suppose to work even faster on my system as its newer and reasonably good compared to old systems.

May be u r right.
I am using it on Windows 7 64x with 4GB RAM
But, it suppose to work even faster on my system as its newer and reasonably good compared to old systems.

This thread is meaningless without any details of how you're starting up. Are you starting it with a single tab, or 100 tabs? How long does it take to start? On my system it starts in seconds, but then I don't load hundreds of tabs. Maybe five at the most, and I start up from last time. Chrome Iron is about the same, it takes 2-3 seconds to start up.

If u don't understand than better not post any reply or read carefully.

I start Opera without any tab. Its just speed dial page.
Opera has Nothing to do except to just start.
But still, it takes reasonably long time than chrome.

Be very precise, Chrome takes 2 second to open.
And Opera takes 2 second + type "g" in chrome address that will auto type www.google.com + open webpage "www.google.com" + search "yahoo" in google + search result + goto yahoo webpage + click on yahoo mail + type yahoo username.
And, OPERA opens before I enter passward !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you open Opera and do nothing else, how many seconds does it take? From what you tell, it looks like your Opera takes more to load than in my old P3 800 MHz 512 MB!! Are you sure you haven't modified anything in your Opera installation? Have you tried downloading a portable version (so it doesn't affect your current installation) to check how it behaves?

You need to upgrade your harddisk....Get an ssd...nearly everything will start instantly!

Opera starts very quickly on my W7 machine, it only takes 1-2 seconds. Maybe Chrome is slightly faster to start, but considering how much more stuff is crammed into Opera that's not too surprising.

Also, are you aware that W7 "learns" what apps you use the most and rearranges them so that the ones you use frequently become faster to start? If you keep starting Opera often it will eventually start faster.

Portable version opens much much faster than my installed version. (it takes just 4 second)
I am not sure if my installed opera has 9 speed dial entries that affect loading speed.
another thing, it may be bcoz i have win7 64bit.
that is only reasons I can tell nothing else looks problematic.
i have re- installed it but speed is same.
thank you guys for your input.

OPERA takes 23 second to start

23 seconds? That's insane... It sounds like Firefox closing times.
It HAS to be something special going on there. Have you tried deleting all cookies and temporal files? You may also want to delete the history, or at least configure it to store no more than 5000 urls.
If it fails, I would try renaming Opera's folders in Documents and Settings (both Application Data and Local Settings\Application Data), and then reinstalling it. Check if one of those folders weights too much.

Your Opera cache, plugins and other settings will effect loading time. Try emptying your cache.

hi
I Deleted all private data- cached and history and everything and that made wonder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now OPERA starts in 9 second instead of 23.
Thats significant difference.
Is there anything else still can be done to make even faster? It still way behind my Chrome startup.
Thank you guys

Bookmarks - trim unnecessary descriptions, descriptions will increase the bookmarks.adr size a lot.
Notes - clean it up, unused notes should be deleted & emptied.
Search History - Clean this up too if you did a lot of search, because it never clean it self up...
VPS folder - if you never use Full-text History Search then you should disabled it, Opera will delete the folder after restart.

That was awesome too.
It has now bring me down to 5 sec.
I deleted bookmark descriptions and all notes.
Is there anything else left to try ?
Man, I am now down from 23 second to 5 second. That was great but if possible need to make it better than Chrome or at least equal.
Thank you for your great input and comments.

I've also that problem,I am using Windows 7.And 4 month old pc

Opera needs faster Startup

People need more patience.

Originally posted by ritmocafe:

You need to upgrade your harddisk....Get an ssd...nearly everything will start instantly!

WOW, instead of addressing the problem you suggest just going round it, *bravo*. And when some software startup on sdd will get even slower you would recommend buying 10 SSDs and making a raid of it - right?

Originally posted by Y0Y0:

People need more patience.

And exactly for this reason in new Ubuntu they worked so hard to make it start faster - right? In your opinion and system that boots few minutes or browser sarting up in dozens of seconds are OK?

Back to the topic:
- chrome starts in less than a second
- Opera starts in about 2-3 seconds (clean, no tabs, history search off, disk cache off, bookmark file ~100KB, few notes)

this isn't problematic for me (in my default installation I tend to have sessions with about 10-30tabs so it takse longer to starup but still quite fast), but I would agree that making it start chrome-fast would be awesome and would make a more pleasant experience for end user - especially the regular one that doesn't have many tabs/history/bookmarks and just want to quickly look for something...

Originally posted by lwiczek:

And exactly for this reason in new Ubuntu they worked so hard to make it start faster - right? In your opinion and system that boots few minutes or browser sarting up in dozens of seconds are OK?

Well, if I let Opera do as little as Chromium it starts up at about the same speed. If I actually utilize all the features Opera takes a lot longer to start. Install some extensions to mimic a minimal amount of Opera's features and then see which browser is faster.

Originally posted by lwiczek:

especially the regular one that doesn't have many tabs/history/bookmarks and just want to quickly look for something...

My Opera 10.5x builds which include bookmarks, various saved tabs etc. start faster than Chromium here and that's without extensions.

Oh dear. I was just implying that Opera *could* push for startup time of the core+bookmarks (to seem faster for the regular user) and load the rest in the background.
- general public would think that Opera loads faster (after all majority launch browser to open a webpage)
- the rest wouldn't notice difference to the current state.

Hope this clarifies a bit?

Alright. Speed is always good.

I think you maybe need a reinstallation .
I have seen your problem on my PC. I uninstall Opera 10.5 all with Revo Uninstaller 1.87's help,including my profile . After that I install Opera 10.5 ,and i have seen this problem not any more
Here is revo uninstaller 's download page
http://download.cnet.com/Revo-Uninstaller/3000-2096_4-10687648.html

as a general people, what they care is how fast they feel in user experience.
if after click, opera takes 6-9 sec depend on when last u cleaned history, how many default features enabled and all that stuff is not really a good reasons to justify.
after install, it should be leas than 2 sec to start is reasonable and the time shouldn't increase as history builds up. I never cleaned my history in chrome either.
i love opera and its my default browser since years.
but I think opera can make startup faster as chrome if they focus on that aspects.
i know opera engineers are very innovative and they are capable to take care of this issue.
make user experience a blitz since they click on red "O" icon on desktop.

I just checked my Opera startup time. It took me about 1 (one) second to start and it is standard out of the box version of this wonderful browser. I use it rather regularly (one to four hours a day) and have never experienced problems with slow start (I did have problems with slow stop however, as Opera was trying to save its state with Opera Link). It usually takes less than 2 seconds to start.
23 seconds is insane indeed and it is not normal.
What I want to say is that it is hard to improve over one seconds startup threshold. It must be a configuration issue. Let's hope they resolve the problems with Windows 7 soon, so you can enjoy the fastest Internet experience ever :]

Originally posted by SanIceman:

I think you maybe need a reinstallation .
I have seen your problem on my PC. I uninstall Opera 10.5 all with Revo Uninstaller 1.87's help,including my profile . After that I install Opera 10.5 ,and i have seen this problem not any more
Here is revo uninstaller 's download page
http://download.cnet.com/Revo-Uninstaller/3000-2096_4-10687648.html

This is very true. Opera 10.53 was taking 40+ seconds to load on my XP Pro workstation (3ghz, 4gb RAM). I had tried uninstalling it, even used Advanced SystemCare uninstall to clean up, but was still just as slow when I would re-install.

I didn't use Revo, but I did a manual registry search (which was clean) and searched my HDD for any Opera remnents. I found a bunch of old Opera stuff in C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\Opera, which I deleted. I then re-installed Opera and it now take about 2 seconds to load. This is sure to slow down a bit when I re-install my applications it will take a bit longer to load, but that's acceptable.

Just adding my two bits: I've also experienced extremely (as in >10 seconds) long Opera startup times. These never happen when I delete all cached files (as in cache, icons, opcache, vps, pstorage folder contents) before the next launch, so I wrote a batch file for cleaning up that executes automatically after I exit Opera, and my problem is now gone.

For reference my Opera files are located on a RAID 0 array of 2 Spinpoint F3 1G drives, OS Win7 x64 with 6G RAM, i7 920 CPU. Slow startups happen occasionally when I close and then reopen Opera. Even if the 'empty cache on exit' option is set, Opera leaves loads of cached files on disk - most probably slow startups are related to how Opera reloads the cache files.

My recommendation: always delete cached files and Opera will start up like lightning

Originally posted by grrrrrr:

My recommendation: always delete cached files and Opera will start up like lightning

I think so ,and I always do that

Originally posted by grrrrrr:

I've also experienced extremely (as in >10 seconds) long Opera startup times.

When did 10 seconds become 'extremely long' ? In terms of common sense, 10 minutes is long, 10 hours is longer, 10 seconds is barely noticeable.

Originally posted by Y0Y0:

Originally posted by grrrrrr:

I've also experienced extremely (as in >10 seconds) long Opera startup times.

When did 10 seconds become 'extremely long' ? In terms of common sense, 10 minutes is long, 10 hours is longer, 10 seconds is barely noticeable.

If your heart would stop beating for 10 seconds, would you consider that pause barely noticeable? Is there a different kind of 'common sense' that applies in this case?

What you perceive as slow is very subjective. It depends on overall how fast your pc is, your lifestyle, your expectations from your computer, whether you can focus on another task while Opera is taking its time, etc. I use the computer a lot and I like when things happen when I want them to happen, not 10 seconds later - especially if there's no reason why it shouldn't. I respect your view on things and I expect you do the same for mine.

I start up Opera for checking some pages, close it down, start it up again and repeat this a couple of times per hour. In this situation a 10 seconds delay can be very irritating. I should just leave it open, you could say, but I like to keep the number of windows at a minimum and close those that I'm not using. The irritation is even greater when you see that technically a quick start is perfectly possible provided the cached files are deleted properly after Opera is closed, and when other programs don't have this kind of delay.

Although I found a solution for myself so I'm not unhappy with the situation, in an ideal world the setting 'clear cache on exit' would clear all cached files as the name suggests instead of leaving all sorts of junk behind.

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