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Thank goodness I am not the only one who is annoyed of that behavior.
So, does anyone out there know how to do it?
In Windows, closing the last tab results in a SpeedDial-tab, the Opera window itself stays open. Why is there a different behavior on the Mac?
Nonetheless, Opera is the best browser hands down. :-)
Cheers,
Tib
So, does anyone out there know how to do it?
In Windows, closing the last tab results in a SpeedDial-tab, the Opera window itself stays open. Why is there a different behavior on the Mac?
Nonetheless, Opera is the best browser hands down. :-)
Cheers,
Tib
My guess for the different behaviour is that Mac-users are used to programs that keep running even if you close the windows. Hit Cmd+T or N after you close the last tab and you'll get a new window with your standard new tab/page look.
You can't really close the window completely on a Windows machine, since it would quit the Opera.
You can't really close the window completely on a Windows machine, since it would quit the Opera.
The problem with the closing window when closing the last tab, is that the history of closed tabs is discarded if the window is closed. So if you accidently close the window, no reopen of any tab of it is possible anymore. Also if the window is closed while in fact trying to close opera (something often happening when friends use my browser), no windows will be saved on close, as they are in fact closed before opera was shut down.
This can be really annoying and happens quite frequently to me and to other macusers with non-mac friends I know.
Maybe this problem can be solved by allowing to restore not only closed tabs but also closed windows (at least the last closed window or the closed windows of the last 5 minutes to reduce memory footprint)
This can be really annoying and happens quite frequently to me and to other macusers with non-mac friends I know.
Maybe this problem can be solved by allowing to restore not only closed tabs but also closed windows (at least the last closed window or the closed windows of the last 5 minutes to reduce memory footprint)
It is possible to restore closed windows now (before you quit Opera), at least if you close them with "open" tabs (can be just speed dial). One way is to create a new window and hit the garbage bin and you'll find the window in the list (very top). The garbage bin of this window will be empty though, but it will help those times someone hit the 'x' without realising.
I see. Nevertheless the reopen feature in my opinion behaves a bit weird. Haven't made extensive tests, but it looks like if I close the window via the x-button, I can restore the tabs in a newly created window but if I close the window with the cmd+T shortcut (which is what I usually do), I can't reopen any tabs. Don't know if this is intended/neccessary and I would appreciate fixed/extended reopening capabilities very much.
In Windows, closing the last tab results in a SpeedDial-tab, the Opera window itself stays open. Why is there a different behavior on the Mac?
Is there a preference change or something we can do so that closing the last tab puts us back to speed dial?
That convenience was probably the main draw for me to switch to Opera when running a windows machine, shouldn't it be able to do the same thing on a Mac?
No. The frameworks ARE NOT the same. Yes, Opera could (once again) shove functionality we don't want down on to us. Thankfully they have not.
If I wanted to run Windows, I would. I run Mac, because I didn't like it's shortcomings and the way it behaved. I prefer to NOT have it imported to the Mac.
Having said that, I thought that the Windows version had a switch that would allow you to stop the reopening of the new window. I don't have a windows machine to test that, and it may have been an old version. Any one remember that?
UPDATE: I am running in windows mode (not tabs), and I just hit command + w and it reopened a blank window (I have speed dial hidden). I lost nothing, history, cookies, downloads, all intact. Just FYI. Oh and I am still running 10.10.
If I wanted to run Windows, I would. I run Mac, because I didn't like it's shortcomings and the way it behaved. I prefer to NOT have it imported to the Mac.
Having said that, I thought that the Windows version had a switch that would allow you to stop the reopening of the new window. I don't have a windows machine to test that, and it may have been an old version. Any one remember that?
UPDATE: I am running in windows mode (not tabs), and I just hit command + w and it reopened a blank window (I have speed dial hidden). I lost nothing, history, cookies, downloads, all intact. Just FYI. Oh and I am still running 10.10.
This seems to work as a workaround: When you get to the last tab, hit this button instead - it replaces the tab with the speed dial which is pretty much what I'm looking for.
Originally posted by Vectronic:
Optionally, there is this one which will display the SpeedDial over the current tab, press it again to hide the SpeedDial (Keeps original page)
5. August 2010, 12:56:46 (edited)
+1
This is new behaviour with 10.6 on XP and Linux.
It closes the window when you close the last tab! When you have 2 windows open.
I want one window open on each of my 2 monitors.
Now it closes one of them and i have to open a new window each time and move it to the right monitor. It is very irritating.
Is there a setting to fix this?
This is new behaviour with 10.6 on XP and Linux.
It closes the window when you close the last tab! When you have 2 windows open.
I want one window open on each of my 2 monitors.
Now it closes one of them and i have to open a new window each time and move it to the right monitor. It is very irritating.
Is there a setting to fix this?
The setting of Opera under Windows
Open Preferences (Ctrl + F12), and under Advanced->Tabs->Additional Tab Options, check Allow window with no tabs.
doesn't exist in opera for mac.
Please does anyone know how to allow opera appearing with all tab closed?
I've the Opera
Version
11.51
Build
1087
Platform
Mac OS X
System
10.7.1
It's very annoying restarting opera every time I close all tabs.
I'd be grateful if you could help me.
Open Preferences (Ctrl + F12), and under Advanced->Tabs->Additional Tab Options, check Allow window with no tabs.
doesn't exist in opera for mac.
Please does anyone know how to allow opera appearing with all tab closed?
I've the Opera
Version
11.51
Build
1087
Platform
Mac OS X
System
10.7.1
It's very annoying restarting opera every time I close all tabs.
I'd be grateful if you could help me.
Originally posted by boudris:
Yes, because empty workspaces are not the way windows work on Mac.The setting of Opera under Windows
Open Preferences (Ctrl + F12), and under Advanced->Tabs->Additional Tab Options, check Allow window with no tabs.
doesn't exist in opera for mac.
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Regardless if design paradigms of the mac and windows platforms should be respected, if windows are closed on a mac using cmd+w, they cannot be restored via the corresponding button nor the keyboard shortcut. I don't think this is a matter of platform policies but a usability glitch. The same action leads to different results, depending if the closed tab is the last of the window or not.
If I'm missing something here and there is a possibility to change/bypass this behaviour please clarify.
If I'm missing something here and there is a possibility to change/bypass this behaviour please clarify.
I was responding to the question from boudris. I don't know enough about Mac to have an opinion about the original topic in this thread.
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