(Opera 10.5x) Flash (64bit) detected but not loading

(Opera 10.5x) Flash (64bit) detected but not loading

OpenSUSE 11.2 x86_64
Linux 2.6.34-rc6-29-desktop
KDE SC 4.4.3
Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux x86_64; U; en) Presto/2.5.24 Version/10.54.6331
Flash 10.0.45.2-4.1.x86_64

For quite a while now Flash with Opera (10.5x) on Linux has not been working (it isn't loaded). It works fine with all my other browsers (Firefox, Konqueror, Rekonq, Arora).

Could someone help me troubleshoot it please?

this still happens with 10.54 build 6335.

same with 6336.

this also happens with a new profile.

still non-functional with 6340.

I can't help, but can confirm this on:
OpenSUSE 11.3 Milestone 7 x86
Linux 2.6.34
KDE SC 4.4.3
Flash 10.0.45.2-4.1.x86
ALL Opera 10.5x snapshots (WebM build also)

Do you maybe update your suse from Factory repos? Maybe it is the case (11.3=Factory now)?
Because, as I said earlier-if it isn't working now it will not work when final openSUSE 11.3 will be released...
Good that in Opera 10.10 Flash works...

Originally posted by miki100:

I can't help, but can confirm this on:
OpenSUSE 11.3 Milestone 7 x86
Linux 2.6.34
KDE SC 4.4.3
Flash 10.0.45.2-4.1.x86
ALL Opera 10.5x snapshots (WebM build also)

Do you maybe update your suse from Factory repos? Maybe it is the case (11.3=Factory now)?
Because, as I said earlier-if it isn't working now it will not work when final openSUSE 11.3 will be released...
Good that in Opera 10.10 Flash works...

thank you for the confirmation. you're about the fourth person to confirm this on opensuse yet i'm told the opera dev team can't reproduce this problem. i don't know what they're doing!

your confirmation and one other also reveal that this problem is occurring with 32-bit & 64-bit flash.

I have the same problem with Opera 10.54 on my my Mac with PowerPC processor. For example, in youtube.com flash is loading but video isn't buffering.

Originally posted by dragon422:

I have the same problem with Opera 10.54 on my my Mac with PowerPC processor. For example, in youtube.com flash is loading but video isn't buffering.

no offense meant, but this is not the same problem i've reported.
flash is detected (it is listed in opera:plugins) but it is NOT loaded, as in a black box where the flash content should be.

Did you try following the instructions at http://my.opera.com/ruario/blog/problems-with-nspluginwrapper-and-flash-on-64bit ?

Originally posted by AVL:

Did you try following the instructions at http://my.opera.com/ruario/blog/problems-with-nspluginwrapper-and-flash-on-64bit ?

i indeed did. i also read/followed this article as well: http://my.opera.com/ruario/blog/running-64bit-flash-on-64bit-distros
all to no avail.

Oh, a reply from Opera developer, how nice... Maybe you will fix it, guys
And echoes1, you haven't answered my question:

Do you maybe update your suse from Factory repos?

PS:When is new snapshot coming?

Originally posted by miki100:

And echoes1, you haven't answered my question:

Do you maybe update your suse from Factory repos?

well, assuming you mean the OpenSUSE (11.3) factory repo, no i have not. i stick with the stable version until the next final version is released.

Hmm... then maybe it's the kernel? (because in 11.2 kernel 2.6.31 is by default, so you updated your kernel.)
I don't have time now to check it, maybe somebody else will?

Originally posted by miki100:

Hmm... then maybe it's the kernel? (because in 11.2 kernel 2.6.31 is by default, so you updated your kernel.)

I don't have time now to check it, maybe somebody else will? " height="17" width="17">

i am using the Kernel:HEAD repo for the latest kernel. if i knew how to use multiple versions of the kernel in OpenSUSE i'd try the older one.

No, it's not the kernel. I'm now on :
Opera 10.54 Internal 6340
kernel 2.6.31.5-0.1
Then I don't have any other idea what may cause this. echoes1, could you show me your repositories ? Maybe this can help

Originally posted by miki100:

No, it's not the kernel. I'm now on :

Opera 10.54 Internal 6340 kernel 2.6.31.5-0.1

Then I don't have any other idea what may cause this. echoes1, could you show me your repositories ? Maybe this can help

thank you for confirming this!

i use a lot of repos, but here they are: http://pastie.org/984510

I'm a bit shocked to see 53 repositories (I expected a lot fewer ), so I can't say which package may cause this, sorry .
I see that almost all your repos are Factory, so you probably have new packages...
I don't know what we can do now... maybe some hints from Opera Developers?

Originally posted by miki100:

I'm a bit shocked to see 53 repositories (I expected a lot fewer)

well i warned you.

Originally posted by miki100:

so I can't say which package may cause this, sorry

that is ok, i didn't expect you to be able to.

Originally posted by miki100:

I don't know what we can do now... maybe some hints from Opera Developers?

yes, hopefully some more. hopefully we can get this issue more attention because the number of people (including myself) that i have seen report this issue on opensuse with flash (32bit & 64bit) is up to half a dozen.

Hello again. echoes1
Today 10.60 Alpha 1 was released, but Flash still doesn't works.
But here's some "good" news-another person confirmed this- post
We will see what Opera devs will do...

i can confirm that flash still does not work with 10.60 alpha.

also, html5 attempts to load on youtube now, but it always gets stuck at "Loading".

great new fixes (with kde at least) but flash is still not working with 6347.

just want to add that on this page: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

firefox 3.6.3, konqueror 4.4.3, and rekonq 0.4.71 all properly show the latest version of flash installed (10.0.45.2) but opera shows nothing where the flash version info should be.

this is all with the 64bit flash plugin.

Originally posted by echoes1:

just want to add that on this page: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

firefox 3.6.3, konqueror 4.4.3, and rekonq 0.4.71 all properly show the latest version of flash installed (10.0.45.2) but opera shows nothing where the flash version info should be.

this is all with the 64bit flash plugin.

Yes,that's true...(tried with Firefox 3.6.3, Konqueror 4.4.82 and Chromium)
Oh,and I forgot to ask you, echoes1: Do you also have this in terminal output after visiting site with Flash?

opera: Plug-in 4151 is not responding. It will be closed. 
opera: Define environment variable OPERA_KEEP_BLOCKED_PLUGIN to keep blocked plug-ins.

(That 4151 number is random, and setting that variable also doesn't help).
PS: Thanks for reminding me about rekonq browser. I will use it until Opera fixes Flash problem

Originally posted by miki100:

Oh,and I forgot to ask you, echoes1: Do you also have this in terminal output after visiting site with Flash?

opera: Plug-in 4151 is not responding. It will be closed.
opera: Define environment variable OPERA_KEEP_BLOCKED_PLUGIN to keep blocked plug-ins.

for some reason it hadn't occurred to me to run it from a term. i do get the same message.

i wish the opera devs would give us some troubleshooting steps to try to provide them with some useful info.

ran opera with "-debubplugin" and tried to view a youtube video but the only output was the same message you reported.

no change with 6531.

Still doesn't work in 6355. I think that it will be never fixed

Originally posted by miki100:

Still doesn't work in 6355. I think that it will be never fixed

confirmed. still doesn't work with 6355. with adobe killing flash 64bit (at least until a "future" release, whenever that is), this makes the situation that much more convoluted.

maybe when opensuse 11.3 is released that will fix the problem. who knows. i always install new versions when they're released so i'll report back after that.

I confirm, too, but with 32-bit Flash on OpenSuse 11.3. With PCLinuxOS the same plugin works like a charm.
And I can confirm the terminal output.

Today somebody added a bug report to Novell bugzilla - https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613843 !
I voted already at it, I hope you guys will also do it. Let's just hope it will be fixed before 11.3 release...

i voted for the bug & added a few comments to it.

there was something in the changelog about better plugin performance but no change with flash with 6363.

no change with flash with 6368 however, for the first time (not including lab builds) webm/html5 youtube works!

This is not only openSUSE :

@miki100: Flash does not seem to work for me also on Gentoo x64, I'm getting this error:
opera: Plug-in 13032 is not responding. It will be closed.
opera: Define environment variable OPERA_KEEP_BLOCKED_PLUGIN to keep blocked plug-ins.

And hey, it works in every other browser I have, Firefox, Chromium, Konqueror...

(From Opera Blog)

miki100, did you actually ever try what AVL mentioned:

http://my.opera.com/ruario/blog/problems-with-nspluginwrapper-and-flash-on-64bit

Please confirm this. Without knowing if you tried it we cannot proceed.

Yes, I done this (there are my comments in that post ).

Originally posted by miki100:

This is not only openSUSE :

Originally posted by kopancek:

@miki100: Flash does not seem to work for me also on Gentoo x64, I'm getting this error:
opera: Plug-in 13032 is not responding. It will be closed.
opera: Define environment variable OPERA_KEEP_BLOCKED_PLUGIN to keep blocked plug-ins.

And hey, it works in every other browser I have, Firefox, Chromium, Konqueror...

(From Opera Blog)

Actually, it stopped working for me in the latest builds (newer than 6351), build 6351 is last that worked for me. So I'm going back to this build, because in this state, new builds are unusable...

I was afraid of loading x32 flash but the security issue made me ditch x64 flash for the one in Ubuntu repo which is latest x32 used with nsplugin wrapper. Surprisingly it works quite well on Opera 10.60 latest here with Lucid x64, even full screen is excellent. Also html5 works fine, geolocation doesn't work but that isn't really a serious issue for now.

@miki100: I did test openSUSE again this morning but still have not replicated your problems. However i will continue to consider the issue and may ask you more questions about your setup in the future. Thanks for your patience thus far.

@Ruari: If you have time you could check this with openSUSE 11.3 RC1, which was released today.

Flash have became non-working for me after 6355 snapshot. Now it has the same issue. OS: Gentoo Linux 10.0 x86_64, Flash-plugin: 10.0.45.2 64bit

P.S.
After unmasking 10.1.53.64 version of flash(32bit with nsplugin-wrapper). It seems to work and it doesn't crash opera anymore, but video(youtube for example) is not working, it is loading(due to network activity), but never shows.

Same here:

openSuSE 11.3 RC1

Version
10.60 Internal

Build
6368

Plattform
Linux

Betriebssystem
i686, 2.6.31.12-0.2-pae

Flash not working.

In Firefox, Konqueror, Browser Iron, Flash works fine

So it is definitely an issue if so many people confirmed it...
Today brand new 6378 snapshot was released, without that bug fixed.(But I appreciate that other bugs were fixed)

In the 6378 snapshot i have very strange issue. Opera cannot find any flash plugin(tested with 3 versions of flash plugin).

http://files.myopera.com/Alex-Justes/albums/3609422/no-flash.png

The same in the 6379 build.

6380 same issue... Should we report it as bug?

Originally posted by Alex-Justes:

6380 same issue... Should we report it as bug?

the devs are aware of the problem. i think one of the reasons it is hard for them to figure out what is going on is because only some users are experiencing this problem and also because they apparently can't reproduce it themselves.

Hm... I've made strace opera and watch the output. The most interesting thing was, that opera didn't looked in the plugins-path directory for flash plugin. But it made attempts to read /usr/lib64/flash-plugin, so i've made symbolic link "ln -s /usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/flash-plugin" and it worked!

So, now i have partially working flash(video is not playable, i.e. on the youtube and other)

UPD
Brrrr....
Now opera found two flash-plugins and some other plugins, which opera didn't found later.

There were flash related fixes for Unix in the last two releases (6382 & 6383), but Flash still doesn't work for me. :-(

6383: flash video still not playable... =(

Originally posted by Alex-Justes:

6383: flash video still not playable... =(

not surprised, but confirmed.

6384: video is not fixed

Originally posted by echoes1:

not surprised, but confirmed.

yes... Flash issues are annoying.

6385: the same flash issue.

Opera final released without this bug fixed... This issue is the only that stops me from removing firefox from my computer

So as it turns out, 32 bit Flash used through Opera's wrapper can't read videos or something. And for some reason, npwrapper.libflashplayer.so is blacklisted.

My current solution is this:

cd /usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins/
ln npwrapper.libflashplayer.so IDUNNOLOL.so

A symbolic link wouldn't work, so I had to make a hardlink. Come to think of it, it would be smarter to create a temporary dir, e.g. ~/.opera.special.dupe.plugin/ to store that file, so that I don't forget about it and get bit by some duplicate plugin bug later on.

And by the way, why are people "confirming" that bug on old snapshots? That's stupid. The final is 6386, nobody cares about 6384 or 6385. If memory serves, the last "working" version (the last not to blacklist npwrapper) was 6382.

Originally posted by VandelayIndustries:

And by the way, why are people "confirming" that bug on old snapshots? That's stupid. The final is 6386, nobody cares about 6384 or 6385. If memory serves, the last "working" version (the last not to blacklist npwrapper) was 6382.

why don't people know how to read? that's stupid.
(these reports were made when the builds were new).

I have a 64 bit Windows Premium system, Windows 7, using Opera 10.60, and can't get flash to work. Here's an example of page that won't play, and when I try to load flash, it still doesn't work

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/lebron-reportedly-considering-making-it-three-amigos-in-miami.php

Hello ,
Identify Opera as FireFox right click on page >site perf>network I am looking at the page right now

cheers!!

thanks. I thought there'd be vidio on the page (with flash). But it's just a page. I can see it now.

Sniker,

This is Probably why the site is using Browser sniffing to block Opera : NBC Taps Microsoft Advertising as Preferred Digital Marketing Partner for Launch of Fall Lineup

Microsoft news room

cheers!!

haha, yes, MSNBC was possibly trying to help Internet Explorer at the expense of its competition.

Because I couldn't see the page didn't mean, i guess, that my flash wasn't working. Just that that page was set up to prevent Opera from functioning. We live in a tough world. Forturnaly, Opera has had a fine enough browser to survive, if not to flourish. It's hard to flourish with sites like that MSNBC one.

Originally posted by RomDos:

Identify Opera as FireFox right click on page >site perf>network I am looking at the page right now

doesn't work on youtube with flash. fortunately some videos do work but that is because they're webm/html5.
10.70.6395

I can see YouTuve videos with Opera. If there's a link of a youtube video with flash, post it here, so we can see if others agree that Opera doesn't work with it..

Originally posted by lem729:

I can see YouTuve videos with Opera. If there's a link of a youtube video with flash, post it here, so we can see if others agree that Opera doesn't work with it..

that isn't necessary lem, this has been heavily documented on opensuse & gentoo at least. it has also been addressed by several opera devs but they say they can't reproduce for some reason that is beyond me.

Damn, that issue wasn't fixed in new builds. I hope, that 10.70 branch would be better.

But solution from VandelayIndust works fine(32 bit plugin with nspluginwrapper and hard linking).

@echoes1: Update your openSUSE to 11.3. Flash is working here at last !

Originally posted by miki100:

@echoes1: Update your openSUSE to 11.3. Flash is working here at last !

as i have said before, i plan on updating ASAP. i don't know exactly when that will be but i will definitely report back here when i do.

I also have this issue, since 10.60 beta was running in CentOS 5.4.
It's a 32bit installation, so it shouldn't be because of nspluginwrapper. The flash plugin is saved in the mozilla plugins directory (/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/) and I've added that path to the Opera settings. It loads (if I check opera:plugins), but doesn't show any flash on any website. Videos remain black, so do games. If I visit www.adobe.com then the flash video on top is never loaded. If I hover over where the flash should be, then I see after some seconds the link to where the .swf is stored on the server.

Currently testing on build 6396.

i can confirm that flash now works with opera in opensuse 11.3 (fresh install)!

i first tried this method: installed opera 10.60 from the non-oss repo and fired up youtube using the new profile and both flash & html5 video worked.

i then deleted the new .opera directory in my home directory & pasted my .opera directory i backed up from opensuse 11.2 & it still worked with opera.

this shows that the problem was not caused by adobe's provided flash, flash from the opensuse repos, nor was a it a problem with my opera configuration. it confirms what others had reported: that the problem was caused by something opensuse related (but not the flash packages).