Gay Marrige

Gay Marrige

Do you think that gay citizens should be able to get married?

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

does not mean one should be stigamatised but should not be made legal

I'm sorry, did I read that right? You think that homosexuality should not be stigmatised, but should not be legal either???

I think you need to think about that a little harder.

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

NO should be a wonder drug for chocolate pudding dipping

So you're okay with homosexuals as long as they don't have anal sex? What about heterosexual people who have anal sex? And are you thus more okay with female homosexuals than with male homosexuals (presuming strap-ons are less widely used for anal things than real penises)? Don't forget that just as for heterosexual couples, there are many ways to have sex that don't involve penetration (unless you define sex exclusively as penetration), so some homosexual couples may not even practice this at all, others may not do it often, etc. Not because you disapprove, mind you, but because they have other things they like as well.

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

but i dont hate i just do not beleive in same agender sex

I don't believe in public nudity, yet I think it's ridiculous that it's illegal. And that's actually partially my business (I'll see it), contrary to what people do in private.

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

does not mean one should be stigamatised but should not be made legal

You do realize your whole post is one giant stigma?

With regard to Me-he-co missionary man (aka garydenness) and his answer to juggalo1. I would think that juggalo1 is only saying that he regards it as wrong but not interested in harrying them over it. Basically there is nothing wrong in that at all. He isn't advocating pogroms for goodness sake!Such a reasonable stance is of course anathema to the open minds such as the cosy Crazy Gang garydenness leads here. You just need to have any slight iffyness (not anywhere as near my strong opposition) about homos and he and the open minds go into hyper drive. As for laws here we do have specific law protection regarding queerdom. Before there was just plain simple straightforward laws on breach of the peace, assault, etc then we got the pc brigade encouraged by New Labour who started producing more detailed laws about descriptions and all sorts of things that can be stretched to shut you up about any criticism of queers at all.

I have never been an advocate of violence or any like it towards shirtlifters as that is just plain silly but we are constantly getting the bandwagon of just about every minority getting special consideration there is hardly any point to majorities in anything. Minorities in today's world especially here are generally catered for and have the same freedom as the majority but that is not enough we must shut our mouths and let them mouth out what they want and stifle our freedoms for theirs? Seems a rather poor reward for our general tolerance.

While there does seem to be a correlation between gay men and the "queer" stereotype of the mincing nancyboy, the two are not synonymous.

Well so you claim, however you were and are complicit in creating and maintaining the prejudice that results in attacks and discrimination against gay people, or merely men who are a little too effeminate or camp for your tastes.


What you claim as tolerance is in reality passive aggressive hostility. You seem to regard it as a huge burden that gay men and women dare to be openly gay, even in public and on the TV! How dare they exercise the same freedom as anyone else!
You have no legitimate complaint here, you're simply venting your spleen because homophobia is no longer considered a normal reaction. In fact, you are now considered to be the aberration from the norm. This hostility you complain about is the least that gay men and women ahve had to put up with from your homophobic comrades over millennia. Stop being such a nancy about it, and get over it. We have the right to find your position abhorrent and to comment upon that. It's not as if there is a law banning your views or practices, nor are you being censored, discriminated against or attacked for what you are. You are merely being exposed to the contempt in which your opinion in held.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

I would think that juggalo1 is only saying that he regards it as wrong but not interested in harrying them over it.

You're thinking wrong. Again. Juggalo thinks homosexuality should be illegal.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

As for laws here we do have specific law protection regarding queerdom.

You're lying. Again. As has been demonstrated before.

Prove me wrong. Provide us with an example where there is legislation giving 'special rights' or protections that heterosexual people are denied.

Originally posted by Redem:

You are merely being exposed to the contempt in which your opinion in held.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Why should majorities has to accept minority sexual repulsive (to them) behaviour people it's the question.
Sexual behaviour minorities "rights" are a fraud. Those persons have so many rights to impose their sexual way of life as the majority of people has to react against it the way they want.
Ah, what I said it's homosexual discrimination, the poor guys.. Nope, it isn't, it's just defending everyone rights.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Why should majorities has to accept minority sexual repulsive (to them) behaviour people it's the question.

The better questions are:

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

what do their lives have to do with you? What business is it of yours?

Mr. Howie has declined to answer, so now I pose them to you.
Although I am a heterosexual, I am also a Civil Libertarian. As such, regulating what people do in their own homes (in the US anyway, I have no idea about Portugal's laws) is blatantly unconstitutional. What is repulsive to you may not be to others. Declaring homosexuality "repulsive" is an opinion and opinions are like elbows, everyone has them.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Those persons have so many rights to impose their sexual way of life as the majority of people has to react against it the way they want.

Prove it. Please post links as well, if you don't mind.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Ah, what I said it's homosexual discrimination, the poor guys.

Parts of what you said is bigoted, yes. It's a good thing organizations like the ACLU and numerous others exists.

Lady Gaga is gay.

Originally posted by Jaybro:

Lady Gaga is gay.

Einhorn is Finkle! Finkle is Einhorn!

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Although I am a heterosexual, I am also a Civil Libertarian. As such, regulating what people do in their own homes (in the US anyway, I have no idea about Portugal's laws) is blatantly unconstitutional. What is repulsive to you may not be to others. Declaring homosexuality "repulsive" is an opinion and opinions are like elbows, everyone has them.

Yes, you have no idea about Portugal way of life ( forget that sissy laws, including the constitution, you like so much. I'm a monarchist my friend, the king it's the constitution.) as you don't know nothing about anything besides your McDonald's next shop. Anyway I'll answer you (something that within other cultures wouldn't happen). Did you notice the amount of the words I've used? Minorities and majorities. Don't you think that will explain your question about "What is repulsive to you may not be to others."?

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Declaring homosexuality "repulsive" is an opinion and opinions are like elbows, everyone has them.

An opinion? You speak for you, not for me.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Prove it. Please post links as well, if you don't mind.

Prove what? That non homosexuals have rights? Ah, now I have to prove it with links.. You must be joking.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Parts of what you said is bigoted, yes. It's a good thing organizations like the ACLU and numerous others exists.

ACLU? I don't even bother to know what it is. Advantages of an international forum.

I did answer you thedawgfan it is just that with your so-called libertine open mind you don't get the answer you want so go on a journey.

Don't want to go off too much on a tangent Belfrager - are you really a Monarchist? You lost your King a long time ago although there is a claimant somewhere.

Anyway the way things are going with all the drum thumping for queers hetrosexuals will be the replaced persecuted? Just when I was thankful I didn't live in Edinburgh.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Yes, you have no idea about Portugal way of life

The more I read of your posts about religion and other ways of life, the more glad I am of that.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

( forget that sissy laws, including the constitution, you like so much. I'm a monarchist my friend, the king it's the constitution.)

I'll do nothing of the sort. I'll keep the Constitution, you keep your monarchy.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

as you don't know nothing about anything besides your McDonald's next shop.

I know a great deal about things other than the US and even McDonalds.
It's quite humorous how you lump (generalize) all Americans into one big basket. From your posts, you do the same with religions different from your own as well.Do you lump people of color and other nationalities into one big basket as well?

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Did you notice the amount of the words I've used?

Yup, that and all the bi**hing about the "sissy" Constitution and your foolish generalization.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Don't you think that will explain your question about "What is repulsive to you may not be to others."?

Nope, just like Howie you are stonewalling.
Jesus tap-dancing Christ, will none of you who want to bash those people grow a pair and answer the two very simple, very direct questions I have posed to you?

Originally posted by Belfrager:

An opinion?

Si Señor, an opinion.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

You speak for you, not for me.

But of course. You shut down your brain and let an 83 year old former Hitler Youth do all of your thinking for you.
That and an archaic institution built around the Great Delusion. (Tell me, would Jesus live in a Palace?)

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Prove what?

If you can't be arsed to read, I can't be arsed to answer you.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

ACLU? I don't even bother to know what it is. Advantages of an international forum.

Yup, sheltering as well.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

I did answer you thedawgfan it is just that with your so-called libertine open mind you don't get the answer you want so go on a journey.

No you didn't.
Remember Mr. Howie, Jesus looks down on lying.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Why should majorities has to accept minority sexual repulsive (to them) behaviour people it's the question.

Because it's none of their goddamn business.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Sexual behaviour minorities "rights" are a fraud. Those persons have so many rights to impose their sexual way of life as the majority of people has to react against it the way they want.

Which rights exactly do they have that you do not have?

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Ah, what I said it's homosexual discrimination, the poor guys.. Nope, it isn't, it's just defending everyone rights.

There is no right to be a dick, not even in Portugal.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Yes, you have no idea about Portugal way of life

The more I read of your posts about religion and other ways of life, the more glad I am of that.

Judging by the other Portuguese I met so far he's a minority, but being the arch-hypocrite he is he won't act like it.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

as you don't know nothing about anything besides your McDonald's next shop.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

ACLU? I don't even bother to know what it is. Advantages of an international forum.

Oh the hypocrisy ko:

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

The more I read of your posts about religion and other ways of life, the more glad I am of that.

So do I.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

I know a great deal about things other than the US and even McDonalds.

Yes, it's true. I wrote the same way as if I was talking with you and realized, after, that maybe it was not correct. My apologies.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Nope, just like Howie you are stonewalling.
Jesus tap-dancing Christ, will none of you who want to bash those people grow a pair and answer the two very simple, very direct questions I have posed to you?

Are you obsessed with religion? I'm talking about homosexuals marriage without saying a word about religion.
Very direct questions, you say, what homosexuals do in their home it's their business, correct? of course, it always was. I'm talking about what they do out of their homes. What's the relevance of your question?

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Si Señor, an opinion.

Good. Keep it. But please don't speak Spanish with me, I'm not speaking German with you.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

But of course. You shut down your brain and let an 83 year old former Hitler Youth do all of your thinking for you.
That and an archaic institution built around the Great Delusion. (Tell me, would Jesus live in a Palace?)

Now religious obsession take hand with Nazism accusations?

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

If you can't be arsed to read, I can't be arsed to answer you.

Bah, I was expecting more than argument Manipulation 101.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Yup, sheltering as well.

Sheltering meaning refuge? Do you read Asterix in America? Remember the only thing that the village chief was afraid about? Not your posts.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Before there was just plain simple straightforward laws on breach of the peace, assault, etc then we got the pc brigade encouraged by New Labour who started producing more detailed laws about descriptions and all sorts of things that can be stretched to shut you up about any criticism of queers at all.

The problem is that by 'criticism' you mean 'discrimination'.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Minorities in today's world especially here are generally catered for and have the same freedom as the majority but that is not enough we must shut our mouths and let them mouth out what they want and stifle our freedoms for theirs? Seems a rather poor reward for our general tolerance.

What tolerance?
So, your problem is that you can't insult them all you want without repercussion? What a sissyboy you are.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Don't want to go off too much on a tangent Belfrager - are you really a Monarchist? You lost your King a long time ago although there is a claimant somewhere.

Yes, murdered by the masons (carbonaria) together with the prince. exactly 100 years ago, here at Lisbon.
We'll talk about that maybe at some other thread. Anyway I'm not a constitutional monarchist, but a purist one. The King is the constitution, a King for a generation and a Dinasty for a Nation.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Are you obsessed with religion?

Nope.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

I'm talking about homosexuals marriage without saying a word about religion.

Don't even bother with trying to give me that load of old bollocks. In all of your 899 posts, all have had religion in them in some way, shape, form or fashion. You've made it abundantly clear that your entire world-view is based on Catholic doctrine, this includes your view on homosexuality.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

I'm talking about what they do out of their homes.

What is that they do outside of their homes that gives them "special rights" or "elevated status" or any of that rubbish?

Originally posted by Belfrager:

What's the relevance of your question?

You know quite well why I asked both of those questions to you and to Mr. Howie.
No need in playing games.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Now religious obsession take hand with Nazism accusations?

Not at all, Ratty's (albeit forced) nazi ties are well-known facts.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Sheltering meaning refuge?

Yes, the sheltered life your posts make abundantly clear.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Don't want to go off too much on a tangent Belfrager - are you really a Monarchist? You lost your King a long time ago although there is a claimant somewhere.

Yes, murdered by the masons (carbonaria) together with the prince. exactly 100 years ago, here at Lisbon.

For monarchs that's a natural cause of death.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Why should majorities has to accept minority sexual repulsive (to them) behaviour people it's the question.
Sexual behaviour minorities "rights" are a fraud. Those persons have so many rights to impose their sexual way of life as the majority of people has to react against it the way they want.
Ah, what I said it's homosexual discrimination, the poor guys.. Nope, it isn't, it's just defending everyone rights.

In English that means....?

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

In all of your 899 posts, all have had religion in them in some way, shape, form or fashion.

You mean, my 899 answers to your religious questions?

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

You've made it abundantly clear that your entire world-view is based on Catholic doctrine, this includes your view on homosexuality.

Not only, but since that's the only thing that interests you, what are you expecting me? to join your New Atheist circus?
Nah, not me.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

You know quite well why I asked both of those questions to you and to Mr. Howie.
No need in playing games.

You are the one playing the gay lobby game. I said, and repeat, that the majority of people has also rights relating to be forced to have relationship at their professional and social life with homosexuals, as 190 countries in the world recognize it. The rest it's your problem, not mine.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Not at all, Ratty's (albeit forced) nazi ties are well-known facts.

I don't know what is Ratty's. Another food store chain? Regarding the Pope that you don't even know the name, instruct yourself.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Yes, the sheltered life your posts make abundantly clear.

I don't have D&D life assurance, I talk when I decide to.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

You are the one playing the gay lobby game. I said, and repeat, that the majority of people has also rights relating to be forced to have relationship at their professional and social life with homosexuals, as 190 countries in the world recognize it. The rest it's your problem, not mine.

No, still not making any sense.

I get the idea though that an improvement in vocabulary and grammar wouldn't add any more sense though.

I agree on both points garydenness.

Originally posted by garydenness:

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

does not mean one should be stigamatised but should not be made legal

I'm sorry, did I read that right? You think that homosexuality should not be stigmatised, but should not be legal either???

I think you need to think about that a little harder.

No i meant it ...let them be as they want but give them no rights and in that way it may give them a wake up call that bumchumy is against all creation .

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

NO should be a wonder drug for chocolate pudding dipping

So you're okay with homosexuals as long as they don't have anal sex? What about heterosexual people who have anal sex? And are you thus more okay with female homosexuals than with male homosexuals (presuming strap-ons are less widely used for anal things than real penises)? Don't forget that just as for heterosexual couples, there are many ways to have sex that don't involve penetration (unless you define sex exclusively as penetration), so some homosexual couples may not even practice this at all, others may not do it often, etc. Not because you disapprove, mind you, but because they have other things they like as well.

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

but i dont hate i just do not beleive in same agender sex

I don't believe in public nudity, yet I think it's ridiculous that it's illegal. And that's actually partially my business (I'll see it), contrary to what people do in private.

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

does not mean one should be stigamatised but should not be made legal

You do realize your whole post is one giant stigma?

yes its to soley confuse you and so far its worked ,,do you want a sausage up your butt .my pear butt is clean buddy and it stays that way only used for the monkeys no 2

Originally posted by Jaybro:

Lady Gaga is gay.

that exsplains the bulge

Don't mention the bulge it remind Americans of a sore period during WW2.

Anyone can answer this, but since Frenzie raised it then it would be wise to adress at Frenzie
~name "explorations"/"other ways" of "having sex" without penetration in gay people,i almost said gay couples because from myself,the "title" gay couple its non existance. some people like to explore stupid things.
Imagine a male pet having sex with another male pet -that would be very very stupid.sometimes i consider animals behaviour is better than some people specifically at "gay/sex explores" and "murders/people drinking human blood".

Originally posted by Billymish:

name "explorations"/"other ways" of "having sex" without penetration in gay people

Oral sex.

(How repressed are you all in your part of the world?)

Originally posted by garydenness:

Originally posted by Billymish:

name "explorations"/"other ways" of "having sex" without penetration in gay people

Oral sex.

(How repressed are you all in your part of the world?)

thats one of the other way not ways so i was told on how sex explores "gays" have their sex.
Please re-read the following from Frenzie

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Don't forget that just as for heterosexual couples, there are many ways to have sex that don't involve penetration (unless you define sex exclusively as penetration), so some homosexual couples may not even practice this at all, others may not do it often, etc. Not because you disapprove, mind you, but because they have other things they like as well.

then tell me what you don't understand.

With this gay thing,maybe it would be better if gaypeople would have been friends with other males. No romance no sex-"penetration or not" just be friends, then i will gladly say-they are single people with no interest in females.

Originally posted by Billymish:

With this gay thing,maybe it would be better if gaypeople would have been friends with other males. No romance no sex-"penetration or not" just be friends, then i will gladly say-they are single people with no interest in females.

Why are you so obsessed with the ways gay people may or may not have sex? How on earth is that any business of yours?
Nobody here gives a flying rat's ass where you stick your dick ( and please don't tell us ) - what do you think gives you the right to tell others where to stick theirs?

Maybe you should get out of the closet

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Don't mention the bulge it remind Americans of a sore period during WW2.

Bulge, as in Battle of the

There aren't many posting here who would remember that one. At any rate, it was broken out of. You and I are too old for this place.

@Macallan-i'm having problem with the title "gay"/"gay couple",if you lack interest in female,then stay single it never bites and you will never see yourself being other species,and don't act like female rather find counselling seriouslly that's my advice.no one died because of being single.

If i can ask you,have you seen a single pet being dead because of not having female partner in the house?from my side never and never will.

Originally posted by Billymish:

@Macallan-i'm having problem with the title "gay"/"gay couple",

And your problem is what exactly?

Originally posted by Billymish:

if you lack interest in female,then stay single it never bites and you will never see yourself being other species,and don't like female rather find counselling seriouslly that's my advice.no one died because of being single.

Got any more irrelevant rubbish? My advice: keep it to yourself.

Hint: read before 'responding'. You might even end up saying something that makes sense.

Originally posted by Macallan:

Got any more irrelevant rubbish? My advice: keep it to yourself.

Bat-shit, Mac! Bat-shit!

Don't mess with my entertainment!

@Macallan,ok then,
but imagine telling your male partner-you are very sweet,honey etc,
anyway i love you Macallan as human not as my partner because the bible,quran,morals&culture tells me so,
but if all these above told me-i will be blessed by killing gay people then you would know my situation.

For now i consider you being single and lack interest in females,
but if you were in my area there are some women who would change your mindset.
i know three actually four gays/sexual explores change their mindset.out of three one got married with a baby daughter in the marriage.

Originally posted by Billymish:

@Macallan,ok then,
but imagine telling your male partner-you are very sweet,honey etc,

What on earth makes you think I have one?
Do you ever read what you're 'responding' to? If you do you evidently comprehend none of it.

Originally posted by Billymish:

anyway i love you Macallan as human not as my partner because the bible,quran,morals&culture tells me so,
but if all these above told me-i will be blessed by killing gay people then you would know my situation.

Could you repeat that in english?

Originally posted by Billymish:

For now i consider you being single and lack interest in females,

For no reason other than your unhealthy obsession with other peoples' sexuality ( or rather, what you imagine about it ). For your information - you couldn't be further from the truth.

Originally posted by Billymish:

but if you were in my area there are some women who would change your mindset.

You obviously know nothing about my mindset.

Originally posted by Billymish:

i know three actually four gays/sexual explores change their mindset.out of three one got married with a baby daughter in the marriage.

The way you keep projecting your own issues on everyone else tells me one thing - you need to get the hell out of the closet.

Originally posted by Jaybro:

Originally posted by Macallan:

Got any more irrelevant rubbish? My advice: keep it to yourself.

Bat-shit, Mac! Bat-shit!

Don't mess with my entertainment!

Well, he didn't take my advice. Probably didn't understand it and I refuse to dumb it down any further.

its depand on ur lady what she think about. as i think sername dont effect ur identity coz sername dont create ur identity its only u and ur activities what apear who r u actully.

Macallan !!!! then why care about gays if you are not one?,
I'm sorry if you are not a gay,keep it that way.

but the fact is you can't defend something you don't have.unless you don't understand the situation.i hope you will stop defending something that's non of your business or something you don't understand,next time ask for clarification than defending.

Originally posted by Billymish:

Macallan !!!! then why care about gays if you are not one?,

That's by far the dumbest question I've ever seen in my life. Do you care about women? Any of them?

Originally posted by Billymish:

but the fact is you can't defend something you don't have.

Only if by 'fact' you mean 'incredibly stupid nonsense'.
Please sit down and think about that statement of yours for a second. Try not to hurt yourself by facepalming.

Originally posted by Billymish:

unless you don't understand the situation.i hope you will stop defending something that's non of your business or something you don't understand,next time ask for clarification than defending.

Quite obviously you have no idea what you're babbling about. What on earth do you think gives you the right to tell me what to defend? Your unhealthy obsession with other peoples' dicks? Get out of that closet before it's too late

Originally posted by Macallan:

Well, he didn't take my advice. Probably didn't understand it and I refuse to dumb it down any further.

Who does!?

At any rate, I don't want you to get in the way of ongoing entertainment posts!

Originally posted by Jaybro:

Originally posted by Macallan:

Well, he didn't take my advice. Probably didn't understand it and I refuse to dumb it down any further.

Who does!?

At any rate, I don't want you to get in the way of ongoing entertainment posts!

I sincerely hope he's just a troll.

Yep!!! i care about humans both males and females. If the behaviour is beyond human then it meant for correction before it behaves otherwise.
Macallan are you sick?i mean mentally sick or stupid??who said anything about dicks???
If you were murderer don't you think it would be wise to correct you as human?

Originally posted by Billymish:

Yep!!! i care about humans both males and females.

Well, according to your own claims you can't unless you're a hermaphrodite.So what are you, a hypocrite or a hermaphrodite?

Originally posted by Billymish:

If the behaviour is beyond human then it meant for correction before it behaves otherwise.

How exactly can anything humans do be beyond human?
Not that I expect a halfway sane answer from you.

Originally posted by Billymish:

who said anything about dicks???

You did. Go read your own posts where you keep babbling about how you imagine gay sex.

Originally posted by Billymish:

If you were murderer don't you think it would be wise to correct you as human?

And what has that to do with anything?
No, I don't expect a sane answer to that either.

Interesting.

I reckon they fancy each other.

Macallan i can see clearly that you are happy gay fellow.i guess i was wrong to apologise from saying you are a gay,then i reverse my apology~and use this phrase-wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny as you usually do,who could use that phrase in his normal senses.atleast you come out from the closet very often to market your ass,it takes some time to recognise gays in networking.good luck in your gay community,but i'll stick around to teach you a lesson to be not a gay fan.

Originally posted by Billymish:

Macallan i can see clearly that you are happy gay fellow.

A few things spring to mind.

1) If he is happy and gay, then what's the problem? What business is it of yours.

2) You've lost this argument, mostly because your argument is nonsense and you clearly know nothing about homosexuality beyond religious bile.

3) You haven't answered any of the key questions - such as, what business is it of yours.

4) Based on your reasoning so far, you don't seem to be very intelligent. Perhaps you should concentrate more on learning, and less of preaching.

5) If I had to pick which of the two of you is gay, I'd say you were the one displaying the more obvious signs of homosexuality. Repressed homosexuality. Are you gay?

I love gays and gay marriage should be made legal ( i didint say this i been hacked

homophobic much?

Originally posted by Billymish:

,but i'll stick around to teach you a lesson to be not a gay fan.

someone needs to teach you how not to hate something you clearly don't understand.

I love you Billymish you made them hot for a while heehee

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

i didint say this i been hacked

Next person hacking Juggalo, please open up the command line, and tap in 'format /c'

Originally posted by garydenness:

Originally posted by Billymish:

Macallan i can see clearly that you are happy gay fellow.

A few things spring to mind.

1) If he is happy and gay, then what's the problem? What business is it of yours.

2) You've lost this argument, mostly because your argument is nonsense and you clearly know nothing about homosexuality beyond religious bile.

3) You haven't answered any of the key questions - such as, what business is it of yours.

4) Based on your reasoning so far, you don't seem to be very intelligent. Perhaps you should concentrate more on learning, and less of preaching.

5) If I had to pick which of the two of you is gay, I'd say you were the one displaying the more obvious signs of homosexuality. Repressed homosexuality. Are you gay?

1.if he is a gay,then its my business to bring some counselling to you and him.
2.You are correct about homosexuals "romantic/love affairs" i know less about them,because they are non existance.
3.Choose-should i write about chocolate box or bible.
4.if its a thread then i'm oblige to comment,unless you state my name under your topic that,i'm not allowed to comment.
5.how do you phrase the clarification?
in your dreams i will be a gay.

historically homosexuality is part of the human condition. The fact you don't understand why someone would engage in such an act has little to do with it's relevance to someone else. the bible is nothing but propaganda for the repressed. so continue to bring up nonsense if you wish, it is your right to be completely ignorant... offering a comment doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Yes, you have no idea about Portugal way of life

The more I read of your posts about religion and other ways of life, the more glad I am of that.

Hey, that's like people hating the US for Bush, except I presume Belfrager has less power to mess up people's lives all over the world.

Originally posted by Billymish:

Originally posted by garydenness:

Originally posted by Billymish:

name "explorations"/"other ways" of "having sex" without penetration in gay people

Oral sex.

(How repressed are you all in your part of the world?)

thats one of the other way not ways so i was told on how sex explores "gays" have their sex.
Please re-read the following from Frenzie

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Don't forget that just as for heterosexual couples, there are many ways to have sex that don't involve penetration (unless you define sex exclusively as penetration), so some homosexual couples may not even practice this at all, others may not do it often, etc. Not because you disapprove, mind you, but because they have other things they like as well.

then tell me what you don't understand.

I'm not just referring to means of masturbation, but also to things like kissing, groping, spooning, grinding, or just touching for that matter... you know, all the things one does that have roughly the same motivations as having sex that don't involve sticking your penis in a vagina or anus. It's quite simple: homosexual couples can do everything heterosexual couples do. To think that homosexuals do nothing but have anal sex all the time, rather than just hugging & kissing or some such, is ludicrous.

But all of that's completely irrelevant, for even if they were having anal intercourse all the time, who cares? You wouldn't even know it unless you were stalking them.

Originally posted by Billymish:

@Macallan-i'm having problem with the title "gay"/"gay couple",if you lack interest in female,then stay single it never bites and you will never see yourself being other species,and don't act like female rather find counselling seriouslly that's my advice.no one died because of being single.

And there are plenty of people who do just that. They call themselves asexuals. Btw, roughly half of all homosexuals certainly don't "lack interest in female."

Originally posted by Billymish:

1.if he is a gay,then its my business to bring some counselling to you and him.
2.You are correct about homosexuals "romantic/love affairs" i know less about them,because they are non existance.
3.Choose-should i write about chocolate box or bible.
4.if its a thread then i'm oblige to comment,unless you state my name under your topic that,i'm not allowed to comment.
5.how do you phrase the clarification?
in your dreams i will be a gay.

:yawn:

Hopefully you'll grow up one day and discover there's a world outside your tiny mind.

Originally posted by Billymish:

Macallan i can see clearly that you are happy gay fellow.

Originally posted by Billymish:

it takes some time to recognise gays in networking.

And you failed miserably. Hint: there are gay people here and you didn't recognize a single one of them.

Originally posted by Billymish:

good luck in your gay community,but i'll stick around to teach you a lesson to be not a gay fan.

I'll ask you if I need help bullshitting the hell out of someone, I've yet to see you display any other talent whatsoever.

Originally posted by Billymish:

1.if he is a gay,then its my business to bring some counselling to you and him.

If anyone here needs counselling it's you. Obviously you have no idea what you're babbling about.

Originally posted by Billymish:

2.You are correct about homosexuals "romantic/love affairs" i know less about them,because they are non existance.

Indeed, you know absolutely nothing about them. Yet you keep making idiotic claims. On things you know nothing about.

Originally posted by Billymish:

3.Choose-should i write about chocolate box or bible.

You seem to be obsessed with both.

Originally posted by Billymish:

4.if its a thread then i'm oblige to comment,unless you state my name under your topic that,i'm not allowed to comment.

... and here comes the persecution complex all these clowns seem to have

Originally posted by Billymish:

in your dreams i will be a gay.

Yup, repressed, raging gay. Stop thinking about other people's dicks and arses for a minute.

Would say Billymish that it is standard practice for the queer front here to say that anyone who dares criticise their poof pals. If that doesn't frighten off then the other resort is to label all sorts of extremism. Add ridicule of course and you have all the standard practices of the open-minds to stifle anyone outside their circle. You have discovered this I reckon!?

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Add ridicule of course

Once again Howie, the key word is 'contempt'.

When anyone makes prejudiced statements against a group of people, they are likely to be held in contempt. Especially those that fails to even try and substantiate their nonsense. Which reminds me....you've failed to answer a couple of questions.

What business is it of yours Mr Howie?

What special rights have the gay community received through legislation that heterosexuals are denied? Can you name just one?

At the moment, your views on the subject are both contemptible and laughable. You claim to be such a direct and brave man, but it seems when push comes to shove, you're something of a weak and cowardly person instead.

Haven't we been through this before? Surely if a man is attracted to another man they can't help it. They probably don't want to help it. Good lord, its not a lifestyle choice. Some gay clubs play wicked music. That doesn't mean if i go to one i want to go home with a man at the end of the night. You're on dodgy ground if you claim to be straight and keep banging on about it.
I have made a few comments on this in the past in jest, but really as long as they see where i'm coming from it doesn't bother me. Violent nutcases/muggers and thuggers bother me. Not gay people. As i say if it really bothers you you have to ask yourself why.

And returning to homosexual marriage, witch is the thread's topic, I would like to point the following:
Marriage it's not a Right but a civil status. That means that it depends on two cumulative conditions. Both persons wanting to do it AND that local society recognizes it as a marriage.

Since the attempts to force societies to recognize marriage between homosexuals are based at the magnificent argument that no one has nothing to do with it, and that's the only argument I see used here, I question if someone has anything to do with consented bigamy. Or if someone has anything to do with a person wanting to marry an animal. Is that anything of your business??

By the same gay lobby's argument, bigamy and marrying animals it's a Right equal to the one that supports their pretension that homosexuals have the Right to marry since no one has nothing to do with it, it's a personal choice.

And they are "right", its absolutely equal, all of them are wrong. Society doesn't recognises it as a marriage and it even punish it. In my opinion it's the right thing to do. Like it or not, there are bigger values than deviant sexual impulses.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

By the same gay lobby's argument, bigamy and marrying animals it's a Right equal to the one that supports their pretension that homosexuals have the Right to marry since no one has nothing to do with it, it's a personal choice.

What part of consenting adults is difficult for you to understand? Bigamy is done without the consent, and animals cannot consent by definition.

The argument is simple. If we are to hold to the principle that discrimination against minority groups is immoral and should not be sanctioned by the state, then there is no argument for banning gay marriage and permitting marriage of straight people.
Of course, if you wish to claim that discrimination should be allowed by the state, you can hold that opinion, but I will have to hold you in the same regard as I do that opinion.

Originally posted by Redem:

What part of consenting adults is difficult for you to understand? Bigamy is done without the consent, and animals cannot consent by definition.

I don't know if you read my post, but if you did it maybe you remember

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Since the attempts to force societies to recognize marriage between homosexuals are based at the magnificent argument that no one has nothing to do with it,

Why are you talking with me about consenting adults? What part of no one has nothing to do with it is difficult for you to understand?
As maybe you know, at most parts of the world people don't need to be even adults to marry.

(Sorry, I've pressed the submit button instead the preview one, so another post)

Originally posted by Redem:

If we are to hold to the principle that discrimination against minority groups is immoral and should not be sanctioned by the state, then there is no argument for banning gay marriage and permitting marriage of straight people.

My entire post was trying to show that there's no discrimination at all against homosexuals regarding marriage. Because they can't marry by the option they have made.
This is not discrimination but the principle of equity, we must treat differently what it's different. If you look backwards in History you will find only one period where homosexuals were effectively discriminate, mediaeval times. At that time, they had laws against them. Not before and not after.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Why are you talking with me about consenting adults? What part of no one has nothing to do with it is difficult for you to understand?
As maybe you know, at most parts of the world people don't need to be even adults to marry.

To marry, in any part of the world worth living in, one must be over the legal age of consent, and possibly require parental consent if under the age of majority.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

My entire post was trying to show that there's no discrimination at all against homosexuals regarding marriage. Because they can't marry by the option they have made.
This is not discrimination but the principle of equity, we must treat differently what it's different. If you look backwards in History you will find only one period where homosexuals were effectively discriminate, mediaeval times. At that time, they had laws against them. Not before and not after.

That makes no sense. If they were equal, they could marry as much as straight couples could. They clearly cannot in many parts of the world.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Since the attempts to force societies to recognize marriage between homosexuals are based at the magnificent argument that no one has nothing to do with it,

That's not the argument that is made at all. That's simply your inability to read. The argument that 'it's not your business' is to do with people being homosexual.

The argument for a civil recognition of gay couple has to do with equality, and the ability to receive the same benefits and privileges as a heterosexual couple.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

By the same gay lobby's argument, bigamy and marrying animals it's a Right equal to the one that supports their pretension that homosexuals have the Right to marry since no one has nothing to do with it, it's a personal choice.

No. You're spouting nonsense.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

My entire post was trying to show that there's no discrimination at all against homosexuals regarding marriage. Because they can't marry by the option they have made.

Your efforts were feeble and based on your own bigotry, and not anything reasonable. I suppose you also believe there's no discrimination against females who are denied equal pay because they choose to be women. Or against left handed people, should they be discriminated against. Etc.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

This is not discrimination but the principle of equity, we must treat differently what it's different.

Right. Now you are arguing that prejudice, sectarianism, racism, sexism and bigotry be the law of the land. Well done. Gold star for you. Literally, if you're the wrong religion in the wrong era....

You're different from me. Perhaps I should lobby for a law to have you soundly thrashed in public each Saturday. Just because you're different....

Originally posted by Belfrager:

If you look backwards in History you will find only one period where homosexuals were effectively discriminate, mediaeval times.

I don't think this is about looking backwards. It's just about being backwards. On your part. In medieval times, women were burned at the stake for witchcraft, people were skinned alive for sometimes petty crimes, women were treated as second class citizens, it was legal to kill someone you came across if they were on the run from the law, priests were doctors who prescribed bleeding for any old illness....

What the hell point were you trying to make? You want to go back and live in that age??

Originally posted by Belfrager:

At that time, they had laws against them. Not before and not after.

What utter ignorant rot. There are 70 odd countries where homosexuality is illegal. Perhaps you should move to Iran. They hang gays there.

On the other hand, if you spout your Catholic beliefs too loudly, you might find yourself whining about being discriminated against....

I just hope you, like Billymish, wake up one day and see there's a whole world existing outside of your tiny, hate filled minds.

Originally posted by garydenness:

I just hope you, like Billymish, wake up one day and see there's a whole world existing outside of your tiny, hate filled minds.

One can only hope so anyway.

Originally posted by garydenness:

What the hell point were you trying to make? You want to go back and live in that age??

Probably that, and he wants to go back and live in the age when the C.C. was "the" church of christianity.

First it was the total absurdity of thedawgfan and now his Crazy Gang pal garydenness who again raises the stupid question as what it is to do with me. This is so daft a question.

This is a forum which we are all members of so that gives us the right to agree or disagree with the thread starter. What damn right have either of these two to tell me I don't have a right of opinion? If I followed that analogy then I would ask what it is to do with them which emphasises the matter sillyness. However it is just a purile and rather silly way of being arrogant and want to control. I don't like their support of the queer lobby but such is their right. Equally it is my right to have the opposite stance. In yakking about me or others being narrow minded they express the same attitude themselves. They might not like my stance but tough. This forum is for all of us not the handful of narrow minded who seem to think that anyone with views outside their wee box is to be next to Attilla the Hun. Ultimately if we followed their rather odd attitude there would only be their wee club here.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

First it was the total absurdity of thedawgfan and now his Crazy Gang pal garydenness who again raises the stupid question as what it is to do with me. This is so daft a question.

Why is it daft, and why the heck do you keep stonewalling?
It's a simple of enough question.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

What damn right have either of these two to tell me I don't have a right of opinion?

I never said that. For (expletive)'s sake, read my questions.
Hell, I'll help you out (in big letters and in the colour orange) because I am kind like that:

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

what do their lives have to do with you? What business is it of yours?

Originally posted by rjhowie:

I don't like their support of the queer lobby but such is their right.

Nor do I like your support of genocide and all sorts of exploitation via the British Empire, but such is your right.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

They might not like my stance but tough.

Whether I like your stance or not is irrelevant. All I am simply asking you to do is answer the two questions and avoid further cowardice.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Marriage it's not a Right but a civil status.

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights begs to differ. How do you differentiate between rights and civil statuses, anyway?

Originally posted by Belfrager:

Since the attempts to force societies to recognize marriage between homosexuals are based at the magnificent argument that no one has nothing to do with it, and that's the only argument I see used here, I question if someone has anything to do with consented bigamy. Or if someone has anything to do with a person wanting to marry an animal. Is that anything of your business??

Reread what people actually said. But anyway, bigamy may or may not include consent. If it does, I see no inherent problem. Animals are completely irrelevant because they can't consent. If they could, there'd be no issue either.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

And they are "right", its absolutely equal, all of them are wrong. Society doesn't recognises it as a marriage and it even punish it. In my opinion it's the right thing to do. Like it or not, there are bigger values than deviant sexual impulses.

So you're with your wife just for the sex? You want to punish homosexuals just because they may have a form of sex that you consider deviant?

Originally posted by Belfrager:

This is not discrimination but the principle of equity, we must treat differently what it's different. If you look backwards in History you will find only one period where homosexuals were effectively discriminate, mediaeval times. At that time, they had laws against them. Not before and not after.

Seriously, reread that. You do realize that things like allowing gay marriage are all about simplifying laws? It consists of removing the clause(s) saying that people of the same gender cannot get married. Or to put it another way, removing a law that was against them.

Originally posted by Belfrager:

If you look backwards in History you will find only one period where homosexuals were effectively discriminate, mediaeval times. At that time, they had laws against them. Not before and not after.

That is simply not true at all. Even in western Europe there were laws against homosexuality (or sodomy as it was usually termed), until just a few decades ago and they were enforced too. Just look at what happened to poor Alan Turing; made to submit to hormone treatment to 'cure' his urges and in the end he committed suicide. Some Us states still have anti-sodomy laws on the books but they are not enforced.

Today, of course, there are still laws against homosexuality in many countries, in others they are severely mistreated, up to and including 'corrective rape' of women. To illustrate

Source

Not that there isn't discrimination against gays in the west. How many openly gay footballers can you name, and why do you think that is?

I am not a homophobic but I think Gays should have a civil union instead of a marriage

Why mess up with the family?

After a few years,

People might even ask rights to have sex with underage children under mutual understanding

Just give them a candy and you get mutual understanding

This right is also enshrined in the constitution

In Brazil, a court ordered that having sex with kids is legal

The bottom line is this:

You are a macho man and you don't have a girl friend then you are a pathetic looser

So you suddenly became a gay

Unless you are a shemale

Originally posted by christarzan:

Why mess up with the family?

How do homosexuals mess up "the family"?

Originally posted by christarzan:

After a few years,

People might even ask rights to have sex with underage children under mutual understanding

They already do. So what? That's completely unrelated.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Just give them a candy and you get mutual understanding

Nice one.

Originally posted by christarzan:

This right is also enshrined in the constitution

In Brazil, a court ordered that having sex with kids is legal

Be more specific. A 40 y/o and a 12 y/o isn't comparable to, say, an 11-13 y/o and an 11-13 y/o.

Originally posted by christarzan:

You are a macho man and you don't have a girl friend then you are a pathetic looser

So you suddenly became a gay

So I take it you've switched between being homo- and heterosexual through the course of your life?

Originally posted by thedawgfan:

Originally posted by rjhowie:

First it was the total absurdity of thedawgfan and now his Crazy Gang pal garydenness who again raises the stupid question as what it is to do with me. This is so daft a question.

Why is it daft, and why the heck do you keep stonewalling?

Because he doesn't agree with it. You see, anything he doesn't agree with must be stupid, even if he can't come up with any halfway decent arguments ( like most of the time, hence the whining & bitching )

Originally posted by christarzan:

I am not a homophobic but I think Gays should have a civil union instead of a marriage

In other words, pure RACISM.

Why mess up with the family?

Who are YOU to dictate what a family is?

After a few years,

People might even ask rights to have sex with underage children under mutual understanding

Yeah, and when we allowed women and blacks to vote, it meant that after a few years people might even ask for the right to vote for animals!

Your racism is truly disgusting.

Originally posted by christarzan:

I am not a homophobic but I think Gays should have a civil union instead of a marriage

Why mess up with the family?

How exactly does allowing homosexual couples to marry 'mess up with family'? How does it influence heterosexual couples at all?

Originally posted by christarzan:

People might even ask rights to have sex with underage children under mutual understanding

Which has what exactly to do with same sex marriages?

Originally posted by christarzan:

You are a macho man and you don't have a girl friend then you are a pathetic looser

So you suddenly became a gay

Unless you are a shemale

This is so ridiculous it's not even funny
I'll assume you could support this 'argument' of yours by switching to raving gay for a few days?

Originally posted by rjhowie:

First it was the total absurdity of thedawgfan and now his Crazy Gang pal garydenness who again raises the stupid question as what it is to do with me. This is so daft a question.

This is a forum which we are all members of so that gives us the right to agree or disagree with the thread starter. What damn right have either of these two to tell me I don't have a right of opinion?

Howie, the question is simple and has nothing to do with you having an opinion or not. The question isn't asking whether or not you have a right to an opinion or not. I happen to have the opinion that when you march through Glasgow with your Orange buddies, you are being childish and silly. But it's not really my business if you do or not, is it?

(Actually your marches are far more my business that homosexuality is yours...if you have the brain capacity to think about it)

The question is, what business is it of yours if two people wish to have a gay relationship?

It's a simple question. So why not answer it?

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Originally posted by christarzan:

Calling people a Nazi, Racists, Homophobic, is a very easy way to stifle free speech and end a debate

't be allowed to be an asshole
What debate? I have yet to come up with any sort of argument.

Originally posted by christarzan:

But there are much deeper things and agendas involved that we don't see in the main stream media

Oh dear, it's a conspiracy. Who would have thought

Originally posted by christarzan:

Caving into the homosexual agenda will lead to the radical marginalization of those who oppose homosexual practice and, ultimately, the criminalization of opposition to homosexual behavior.

Oh deary me, you would get repercussions for being an asshole? Those bastards!

Originally posted by christarzan:

It is jail sentence for a preacher to preach against Homosexuality but Islamists can burn US flags and even construct a mosque at the world trade center

Oh dear, it's not just homophobia but a whole bunch of other irrational fears and conspiracy theories.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Homosexual activism represents the greatest threat to civil and religious liberties for our children.

Oh crap, you can't stone them to death. There goes your freedom of religion

Originally posted by christarzan:

The whole push to normalize homosexual relationships is predicated on the assumption that there are no structural prerequisites to valid sexual relationships; that commitment and fidelity are sufficient criteria, unless society can prove harm to all participants, in all circumstances, and in scientifically measurable ways.

What exactly is a 'valid sexual relationship'? Do we need to have our relationships approved by a council of geriatric priests now so we can be free from your imaginary 'homosexual agenda'? Big Brother loves you too

I won't bother with the rest of your paste job, I can take only so much idiocy per day.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Calling people a Nazi, Racists, Homophobic, is a very easy way to stifle free speech and end a debate

It has been proved that people who call others a racists or homophobic always win the debate

Really?

Originally posted by christarzan:

But there are much deeper things and agendas involved that we don't see in the main stream media

Caving into the homosexual agenda will lead to the radical marginalization of those who oppose homosexual practice and, ultimately, the criminalization of opposition to homosexual behavior.

And what they show you EVEN LESS in the mainstream media is how the homosexual conspiracy is actually funded by the Jewish conspiracy.

Originally posted by christarzan:

It is jail sentence for a preacher to preach against Homosexuality but Islamists can burn US flags and even construct a mosque at the world trade center

[citation needed] because last time I checked, Fred Phelps wasn't in jail.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Homosexual activism represents the greatest threat to civil and religious liberties for our children.

You mean the liberty of fucking up other people's lives?

Originally posted by christarzan:

In the US, Homosexual people have a main group called ACLU and they have many other agendas other than marriage

Duh. As Zotlan already said, there are precariously few openly homosexual soccer players, but that it by no means exclusive to soccer. There are many other areas of society where the same thing applies.

Originally posted by christarzan:

At stake are such things as: mandatory indoctrination of our children in all school systems

Oh dear, just the thought of teaching children to treat everyone equally unless there's a good reason not to rather than teaching them that women are inferior, blacks are made to be slaves, etc.

Originally posted by christarzan:

loss of one’s job if one does not sign a statement saying that one “values sexual orientation differences”

Where?

Originally posted by christarzan:

mandatory workplace attendance of “Gay Pride” events and “Coming Out” celebrations;

Where?

Originally posted by christarzan:

fines and even imprisonment for speaking out against homosexual practice

Where?

Originally posted by christarzan:

even in church services;

There is no reason whatsoever to treat church services any differently from anything else.

Originally posted by christarzan:

having one’s children taken out of one’s own home for teaching “homophobic” ideas

Children extremely rarely get taken out of a parents' custody and I've never heard of a child being taken out of the parents' custody because the parents were spreading vile messages (unless it's in the US and the vile message is that pot is okay).

Originally posted by christarzan:

loss of accreditation of all Christian colleges and even seminaries that cannot prove “non-discrimination” in the hiring practices towards “gays and lesbians” or that permit any faculty to speak or publish in a manner critical of homosexual behavior per se; and refusal of colleges and universities to admit any students who do not sign statements affirming the value of homoerotic relationships.

Yeah, yeah, more nonsense.

Originally posted by christarzan:

The whole push to normalize homosexual relationships is predicated on the assumption that there are no structural prerequisites to valid sexual relationships; that commitment and fidelity are sufficient criteria, unless society can prove harm to all participants, in all circumstances, and in scientifically measurable ways.

Given such premises, there is no logically consistent reason why society should resist various forms of multiple-partner sexual unions, whether traditional polygyny, "threesomes," or some other arrangement. Since the restriction of the number of sex partners at any one time to two persons is predicated on the existence of two distinct and complementary sexes as necessary and sufficient to produce a sexual whole, the elimination of such a premise must result in the eventual elimination of a number requirement.

Your point being? Your slippery slope argument can be summarized as "if we stop discriminating against some people for bullshit reasons, we probably need to stop discriminating against some other people for other (similar) bullshit reasons as well."

Originally posted by christarzan:

It is not surprising that the recent Supreme Court decision that found a right to same-sex "sodomy" in the Constitution has sparked a lawsuit to validate polygamy; nor it is surprising that the ACLU has filed a brief on behalf of the polygamist, citing the sodomy ruling and insisting that the burden of proof is on the state to prove that polygamy is always harmful (for the record: It isn't).

Seeing how you realize it isn't always harmful, what's your issue with the cases when it isn't harmful? Anyway, this has nothing to do with "regular" (i.e. two people) homosexual relationships.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Similarly, if consent, commitment, and fidelity are adequate for establishing a sexual union and, further, if the concept of too much structural sameness becomes irrelevant, then there is no reasonable basis for withholding public recognition of man-mother or adult brother-sister unions.

Ever heard of DNA? There's also potential psychological concerns, especially with a parent, but to a lesser extent also with an older sibling. But if they grew up separately or some such then none of that holds any value.

Originally posted by christarzan:

One wonders, in the face of such an assault, how long resistance to adult-adolescent unions and, eventually, adult-child unions can be maintained.

One wonders why you posted an unrelated rambling that seems triggered only by the word "racism" in pr3d's response.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Note that I am not saying that by approving homosexual unions we may open the door to something worse: polygamy and incest. There are good grounds for arguing that homoerotic unions are worse for society than polygamy and adult consensual incest.

Let's hear them.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Nevertheless, approving homosexual unions will, in the end, have the effect of discounting any concept of inherent structural incongruity as regards sexual unions.

Boo-fucking-hoo. Your brand of religious hatred of what's "different" will be sorely missed.

Man. That is one HELL of a slippery slope fallacy. I don't think i've seen one as steep in years! Congrats.

Indeed, "caving in" to the gay rights movement is going to lead to persecution of those who oppose it. Much like caving in to the civil rights for black people movement resulted in the criminalisation of racism, and stifling of free speech. Right?

I mean, that's why the KKK are all in prison right now!

Wait, they're not? You mean giving people their civil rights isn't going to result in a ridiculous avalanche of discrimination? Mon dieu! Who would have thought it.

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Originally posted by christarzan:

The answer to the Where? you don't know because you are a Belgium and I was speaking about United States in general not Europe

According to your claims Belgium would be under gay rule and everything heterosexual would be outlawed. You know, they allow gay marriage there. So, next time you make idiotic claims do some research first.

Originally posted by christarzan:

"Children of the Rainbow", stated on page 145, which states that teachers must "be aware of varied family structures, including...gay or lesbian parents," and "children must be taught to acknowledge the positive aspects of each type of household." Another children book is Heather Has Two Mommies, which is about a lesbian couple having a child through artificial insemination. Another book, Gloria Goes to Gay Pride, states, "Some women love women, some men love men, some women and men love each other. That's why we march in the parade, so everyone can have a choice."

Oh dear, they mention things that happen in real life?! Horror of horrors! What's next, admit the existence of people who don't believe every word in the king james bible?

Originally posted by christarzan:

Hey Frenzie,

The answer to the Where? you don't know because you are a Belgium and I was speaking about United States in general not Europe

You're just copy pasting content from extremist sites. And not even posting the proper links, acknowledging that this is not your work.

Don't you have a mind that is capable of thinking for itself, or are you going to continue to rely on other peoples prejudices and simply pretend it's yours.

Even though you probably don't understand what it is that you are copy and pasting....

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Originally posted by christarzan:

Originally posted by Macallan:

Originally posted by christarzan:

The answer to the Where? you don't know because you are a Belgium and I was speaking about United States in general not Europe

According to your claims Belgium would be under gay rule and everything heterosexual would be outlawed. You know, they allow gay marriage there. So, next time you make idiotic claims do some research first.

Hey,

Read properly

Why don't you take your own advice?
And while there, learn how not to mess up your quotes.

Originally posted by christarzan:

He asked me

Originally posted by christarzan:

mandatory workplace attendance of “Gay Pride” events and “Coming Out” celebrations;

Where?

Where? -- this is what he asked

And you didn't give an answer. So, where is any of this happening? According to your slippery-slopery Belgium should be much closer to your gay dictatorship.

Originally posted by christarzan:

If you read my post properly, I was talking about the Homosexual agenda in US and not Europe, and that might be the reason he asked that 'Where' because

Now that's the dumbest excuse I've seen in a while. Care to back up your silly claims with anything halfway credible?

Originally posted by christarzan:

how can a person living in Belgium know about laws and agendas in US?

Travel. You should try it some time. Maybe you'd actually learn something.

Originally posted by garydenness:

You're just copy pasting content from extremist sites. And not even posting the proper links, acknowledging that this is not your work.

Don't you have a mind that is capable of thinking for itself, or are you going to continue to rely on other peoples prejudices and simply pretend it's yours.

Even though you probably don't understand what it is that you are copy and pasting....

Nope

Certain news like Swedish Pastor sentenced to Jail , you cannot find it in main stream media

And quotes of other people,

I cannot create them own my own so I had to copy paste

Maybe

Sir Elton John is a Gay who is racist

Elton John says the reason Prop. 8 in California passed, banning gay marriages, is because of one word — marriage.

“I don’t want to be married,” he told USA TODAY’s Donna Freydkin at a New York fundraiser last night. “I’m very happy with a civil partnership. If gay people want to get married, or get together, they should have a civil partnership,” said John. “The word marriage, I think, puts a lot of people off. You get the same equal rights that we do when we have a civil partnership. Heterosexual people get married. We can have civil partnerships.”

Of his partner David Furnish, he says, “We’re not married. Let’s get that right. We have a civil partnership. What is wrong with Proposition 8 is that they went for marriage. Marriage is going to put a lot of people off, the word marriage.”

http://www.celebitchy.com/21719/elton_john_is_against_gay_marriage_says_civil_unions_are_for_same_sex_couples/

Originally posted by christarzan:

Sir Elton John is a Gay who is racist

Racist against whom? You've shown nothing to suggest he is racist.

Do you know what the word racist means? I suspect not.

Are you going to acknowledge that your long posts above were just you copying and pasting other people's content?

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Originally posted by christarzan:

The answer to the Where? you don't know because you are a Belgium and I was speaking about United States in general not Europe

You're in the UAE, so obviously you don't know anything about the USA either. But for the record, homosexuality is a heck of a lot more accepted in Belgium than in even the most progressive states in the US.

Originally posted by christarzan:

A primary goal of the homosexual agenda is to promote the lifestyle in public schools. This occurred quickly and intensely after gay marriage was imposed in Massachusetts, where homosexual relationships are taught to children as young as kindergartners, as recounted by the decision of Parker v. Hurley.

Meaning what? Stop being so imprecise.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Vic Eliason of Crosstalk America rightly points out that if all Americans turned homosexual it would only take a few generations for the United States to lose most of the population of the country through lack of procreation. This would make the US more vulnerable to attack by our enemies.

Because obviously that is a realistic scenario.

Originally posted by christarzan:

They tell seven- or eight-year-old boys, "If you only like boys, there's a chance you may be homosexual," or "If you only like girls, maybe you are lesbian." Well, at that age, all members of the opposite sex "have cooties."

You're planting a seed that can totally mess up the normal development process later, when at 12 or 14, kids enter the age of sexual confusion and discovering the opposite sex.

I can see how Dutch & Belgian children these days are so much more messed up than a 100 years ago. Wait, no they're not.

Originally posted by christarzan:

If you read my post properly, I was talking about the Homosexual agenda in US and not Europe, and that might be the reason he asked that 'Where' because how can a person living in Belgium know about laws and agendas in US?

How can a person living in the UAE know about laws and agendas in the US?

There are 50 states, so an unspecific "the US" isn't going to do much. It can all be summarized as "where are gays being treated preferentially to other people (and how)?"

Originally posted by christarzan:

Sir Elton John is a Gay who is racist

Elton John says the reason Prop. 8 in California passed, banning gay marriages, is because of one word — marriage.

“I don’t want to be married,” he told USA TODAY’s Donna Freydkin at a New York fundraiser last night. “I’m very happy with a civil partnership. If gay people want to get married, or get together, they should have a civil partnership,” said John. “The word marriage, I think, puts a lot of people off. You get the same equal rights that we do when we have a civil partnership. Heterosexual people get married. We can have civil partnerships.”

Of his partner David Furnish, he says, “We’re not married. Let’s get that right. We have a civil partnership. What is wrong with Proposition 8 is that they went for marriage. Marriage is going to put a lot of people off, the word marriage.”

http://www.celebitchy.com/21719/elton_john_is_against_gay_marriage_says_civil_unions_are_for_same_sex_couples/

Unless the distinction is nothing but a word, that's a load of crap.

Originally posted by garydenness:

Originally posted by christarzan:

Sir Elton John is a Gay who is racist

Racist against whom? You've shown nothing to suggest he is racist.

Do you know what the word racist means? I suspect not.

Are you going to acknowledge that your long posts above were just you copying and pasting other people's content?

I told you,

I cannot create quotes of other people like the Elton John one, or United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia or Dr. Judith A. Reisman

I have to copy and paste it because them because it is theirs and giving each and every link is time consuming

I only remember that they said it once and I did a google search to find them and I pasted them

For example,

I remembered a quote by Elton John

So I typed

Elton John Homosexual marriage on Google and took his quote

There is no big deal about it


When I said, Gays should be given a civil union instead of marriage, people here called me a racists

But

Even Sir.Elton John believes in civil unions not marriage

So I was just asking you

Is Sir.Elton John also a racist because he believes that I believe?

Originally posted by christarzan:

It is mandatory in some schools in California to attend the Gay parade, I went to California recently and attended the Gay Parade myself and I was surprised to see kids in their midst

Even, it is mandatory for the public servants to attend the Gay Parade

Next time you make a trip to US

Make sure you visit California on June and see the Parades

10-Year-Old Grand Marshal at Gay Rights Parade

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/24/year-old-grand-marshal-gay-rights-parade-sparks-controversy/

Chicago children march in gay pride parade

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=581354

Is it unprecedented for schools to attend local events?

I work in UAE, so I am displayed as UAE but I am British and I have lived, studied and settled in the US

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Originally posted by christarzan:

It is mandatory in some schools in California to attend the Gay parade, I went to California recently and attended the Gay Parade myself and I was surprised to see kids in their midst

Even, it is mandatory for the public servants to attend the Gay Parade

Next time you make a trip to US

Make sure you visit California on June and see the Parades

10-Year-Old Grand Marshal at Gay Rights Parade

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/24/year-old-grand-marshal-gay-rights-parade-sparks-controversy/

Chicago children march in gay pride parade

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=581354

Is it unprecedented for schools to attend local events?

These local events are naked and have sex orgies on the streets

Originally posted by christarzan:

When I said, Gays should be given a civil union instead of marriage, people here called me a racists

But

Even Sir.Elton John believes in civil unions not marriage

So I was just asking you

Is Sir.Elton John also a racist because he believes that I believe?

No, you said Elton John is a racist. You forgot the question. Also, pr3d is not "people," except in the generic human sense. The point is discrimination is discrimination, whether you do it for the way someone looks, the gender someone likes sexually, someone's social class, whether they're left-handed, etc.

Originally posted by christarzan:

It is mandatory in some schools in California to attend the Gay parade, I went to California recently and attended the Gay Parade myself and I was surprised to see kids in their midst

Even, it is mandatory for the public servants to attend the Gay Parade

Not even the faux news article says anything about the mandatory bit, neither does the other article you linked to.
If that was supposed to support your insane claims you failed miserably.

Originally posted by christarzan:

I work in UAE, so I am displayed as UAE but I am British and I have lived, studied and settled in the US

Whoa, you've been to other countries, are currently in the UAE, and you're still managing to read things relating to the US. Obviously I could never do anything like that.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Originally posted by christarzan:

It is mandatory in some schools in California to attend the Gay parade, I went to California recently and attended the Gay Parade myself and I was surprised to see kids in their midst

Even, it is mandatory for the public servants to attend the Gay Parade

Next time you make a trip to US

Make sure you visit California on June and see the Parades

10-Year-Old Grand Marshal at Gay Rights Parade

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/24/year-old-grand-marshal-gay-rights-parade-sparks-controversy/

Chicago children march in gay pride parade

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=581354

Is it unprecedented for schools to attend local events?

These local events are naked and have sex orgies on the streets

Please change your location to cloudcuckooland since that's the only place I know of where gay pride parades include sex orgies on the streets.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Unless the distinction is nothing but a word, that's a load of crap.

Elton John even attended the Rush Limbaugh wedding

Rush Limbaugh is a right wing US radio talk show host

Since, you are all Europeans, you have no idea who is Rush Limbaugh


Elton John Agrees with Rush on Gay Marriage :: EDGE Boston


http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc&sc2=news&sc3&id=106910

Originally posted by Macallan:

These local events are naked and have sex orgies on the streets

Please change your location to cloudcuckooland since that's the only place I know of where gay pride parades include sex orgies on the streets.

roflmao, sex orgies on the street.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Unless the distinction is nothing but a word, that's a load of crap.

Elton John even attended the Rush Limbaugh wedding

Rush Limbaugh is a right wing US radio talk show host

Since, you are all Europeans, you have no idea who is Rush Limbaugh


Elton John Agrees with Rush on Gay Marriage :: EDGE Boston


http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc&sc2=news&sc3&id=106910

And you spent time on the same continent as Timmy McVeigh and the unabomber - holy shit you're a terrorist!

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Originally posted by Macallan:

These local events are naked and have sex orgies on the streets

Please change your location to cloudcuckooland since that's the only place I know of where gay pride parades include sex orgies on the streets.

roflmao, sex orgies on the street.

:rofl They'd burn their arses here if they tried that.
It's only supposed to be 104 F today.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Unless the distinction is nothing but a word, that's a load of crap.

Elton John even attended the Rush Limbaugh wedding

Rush Limbaugh is a right wing US radio talk show host

Since, you are all Europeans, you have no idea who is Rush Limbaugh


Elton John Agrees with Rush on Gay Marriage :: EDGE Boston


http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc&sc2=news&sc3&id=106910

Like I said, if Elton John thinks that there's no difference between a civil union and a marriage in rights and advantages then he's full of crap. And if something comes out of Limbaugh's mouth it's almost guaranteed to be crap, so if Elton John agrees with him it's more likely that Elton John is wrong than that Limbaugh is right.

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Originally posted by christarzan:

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Originally posted by Macallan:

These local events are naked and have sex orgies on the streets

Please change your location to cloudcuckooland since that's the only place I know of where gay pride parades include sex orgies on the streets.

roflmao, sex orgies on the street.

Have you not heard about The Folsom Street Fair, a gay parade which has for years included full nudity and sex acts on public streets, is set to take place on September 30 with city approval, partial public funding and sponsorship by Miller Brewing Company.

The Folsom Street Fair (FSF) is an annual BDSM and leather subculture street fair held on the last Sunday in September and caps San Francisco's "Leather Pride Week". The Folsom Street Fair, sometimes simply referred to as "Folsom", takes place on Folsom Street between 7th and 12th Streets, in San Francisco's South of Market district.
You fail again.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Haven't you heard about Mardi Grass?

http://mardigrasgaypublicorgy.usafur.com/

These are all Gay Parades in USA not cloudcuckooland

Last time I checked Mardi Gras wasn't a gay pride parade either. You fail yet again.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Originally posted by Macallan:

And you spent time on the same continent as Timmy McVeigh and the unabomber - holy shit you're a terrorist!

I am in this country because,

There is a lot of money to made here when all of your European countries are nearly bankrupt

I am not a terrorist

Didn't think you'd get the point.

Originally posted by christarzan:

I have to copy and paste it because them because it is theirs and giving each and every link is time consuming

You copied and pasted virtually everything in your two long posts on this page. That's usually referred to as plagiarism.

.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Elton John Homosexual marriage on Google and took his quote

Then you suggested he is racist. Nothing you have posted suggests he is racist. You do not know what the word racist means.

Originally posted by christarzan:

These local events are naked and have sex orgies on the streets

Righty ho. You've got an almighty imagination on you there.

Originally posted by garydenness:

Originally posted by christarzan:

These local events are naked and have sex orgies on the streets

Righty ho. You've got an almighty imagination on you there.

Probably wishful thinking. Maybe he'd attend a gay pride parade if it had sex orgies in the streets

Originally posted by christarzan:

Have you not heard about The Folsom Street Fair, a gay parade which has for years included full nudity and sex acts on public streets, is set to take place on September 30 with city approval, partial public funding and sponsorship by Miller Brewing Company.

If you are a gay, then go enjoy

Haven't you heard about Mardi Grass?

http://mardigrasgaypublicorgy.usafur.com/

These are all Gay Parades in USA not cloudcuckooland

Yeah, and I went to the gay pride book market last Sunday. Of course I don't know where the gay pride part was, but heck, it's in the Netherlands: the gay capital of the world!

Originally posted by christarzan:

I am in this country because,

There is a lot of money to made here when all of your European countries are nearly bankrupt

You do realize that the only person in this topic who responded to you who's even living in Europe is me? But never mind that insignificant detail.

Originally posted by christarzan:

If you have guts,

Try drawing a Muhammed cartoon with bombs on his head

You will be killed after a few days and you will need Police Protection 24/7

After a few days, the muslim community in your country using their influence over media, politicians and court will name you as a right wing extremist like Kurt Westergaard

I am always amazed

' Why are people scared of Muhammed and Islam?

People can trash, burn and kick a Christian but not a muslim because a muslim will kill you not a Christian

You can call a Christian any name including a racists or say the Bible is a stupid old book but this won't work if you are speaking to a Muslim

Is there any point to what I can only presume if meant to be a red herring?

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Would say Billymish that it is standard practice for the queer front here to say that anyone who dares criticise their poof pals. If that doesn't frighten off then the other resort is to label all sorts of extremism.

You know Macallan isn't queer, don't you. His wife might not be pleased if he was

Originally posted by christarzan:

It is mandatory in some schools in California to attend the Gay parade, I went to California recently and attended the Gay Parade myself and I was surprised to see kids in their midst

Oh BS. Where did you hear that lie?

Originally posted by christarzan:

http://mardigrasgaypublicorgy.usafur.com/

That site has nothing to do with pride parades or mardis gras

Maybe the link is not correct but there are Mardi Gras festivals around the world not only in California

And in California there are sex orgies in both Mardi Gras and Folson Street Fair...this is a basic truth

I cannot see these links as it is blocked here in this country

Did I fail just because I didn't give you the correct link?

Street festival condemned for public sex acts



http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76616

California Approves Public Orgy - Folsom Street Fair is Back Again

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_21356.shtml

Toddlers at the Folsom Street Fair

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/01/miller-lite-approved-toddlers-at-the-folsom-street-fair/

Just search Mardi Gras California sex orgy video on Google

Mardi Gras happens even in Brazil

Originally posted by christarzan:

Maybe the link is not correct but there are Mardi Gras festivals around the world not only in California

And in California there are sex orgies in both Mardi Gras and Folson Street Fair...this is a basic truth

... which are still not gay pride parades and you still didn't back up your claim about mandatory attendance of school kids and public servants
So which part of that do you have trouble understanding?

Except the Folsom Street Fair isn't a gay pride parade in the first place. It's a leather fair.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Maybe the link is not correct but there are Mardi Gras festivals around the world not only in California

And in California there are sex orgies in both Mardi Gras and Folson Street Fair...this is a basic truth

Given that Mardi Gras/carnival is a Catholic thing it should be fairly self-evident that similar events occur throughout the Catholic world. To the displeasure of the Catholic Church there have been homosexual Prince Carnivals in both the Netherlands and Germany, but that has nothing to do with non-existent street orgies.

Btw, you've switched from "children have to attend gay pride, where orgies take place" to "some children may be present at events completely unrelated to gay pride, which may feature orgies."

Bemusing that this queer roundabout keeps coming on the forums here time after time as if these folk were normal (roll on the heavy mob!). Seeing that last picture there from christarzan showing those two in pansie pose confirms how I am not missing that pastime. Don't wish these creatures any harm but why does this keep being aired on the forums.? Are they insecure and constantly need attention? The way many act seem so (here comes the heavy mob again-watch this space!)....they are typing heavily on the keys........

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Bemusing that this queer roundabout keeps coming on the forums here time after time as if these folk were normal (roll on the heavy mob!). Seeing that last picture there from christarzan showing those two in pansie pose confirms how I am not missing that pastime. Don't wish these creatures any harm but why does this keep being aired on the forums.? Are they insecure and constantly need attention? The way many act seem so (here comes the heavy mob again-watch this space!)....they are typing heavily on the keys........

Howie, what happened to your insistence on everyone having the right to air an opinion?

I smell hypocrisy....

Originally posted by christarzan:

If you have guts,

Try drawing a Muhammed cartoon with bombs on his head

You will be killed after a few days and you will need Police Protection 24/7

I'm confused. Do I get my 24/7 police protection before or after they've killed me?

Originally posted by christarzan:

After a few days, the muslim community in your country using their influence over media, politicians and court will name you as a right wing extremist like Kurt Westergaard

Well if I'm dead that will hardly matter, will it?

Originally posted by christarzan:

' Why are people scared of Muhammed and Islam?

People can trash, burn and kick a Christian but not a muslim because a muslim will kill you not a Christian

A Christan won't kill you? They will not only kill you they will do it with all the righteous indignation they can muster. Just ask the people that have died in abortion clinic bombings. Oh wait, you can't because they were killed by Christians.

I now understand why you just copy and paste. Perhaps you should just go back to that before you strain a muscle with all the reaching you're doing.

at least from this american's point of view. Marriage has become an issue of the state, licensed by so established by the state. therefore not to be decided by any religious principles, only the law. to say someone can't marry whom they choose isn't logical, fair or equal.

I don't have to understand why or need to answer any questions about if they are right are not... Gay people wanna get married and wanna be happy. my statement to anyone seeking those two things is, good luck! I'd be interested to see the divorce rate after it becomes more common. pasted that, to each his/her own.

as far as California, it's my understanding they do things a little different out there... especially San Fran. so I wouldn't get too worked up about what goes on there... it's a small corner of a big country not the norm.

Originally posted by ensbb3:

Marriage has become an issue of the state, licensed by so established by the sate. therefore not to be decided by any religious principles, only the law.

Quite right.

Originally posted by ensbb3:

as far as California, it's my understanding they do things a little different out there... especially San Fran. so I wouldn't get too worked up about what goes on there... it's a small corner of a big country not the norm.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Bemusing that this queer roundabout keeps coming on the forums here time after time as if these folk were normal (roll on the heavy mob!).

Did you even read, let alone comprehend, anything that was said? Didn't think do

Originally posted by garydenness:

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

i didint say this i been hacked

Next person hacking Juggalo, please open up the command line, and tap in 'format /c'

Sssssssssssh it was me

Originally posted by christarzan:

Calling people a Nazi, Racists, Homophobic, is a very easy way to stifle free speech and end a debate

Homophobia IS exactly the same concept as racism. You are, for all intents and purposes, a racist. Quoting Elton John (who is obviously ignorant on the issue) does not change that.

Caving into the homosexual agenda will lead to the radical marginalization of those who oppose homosexual practice and, ultimately, the criminalization of opposition to homosexual behavior.

Caving in to the demands for civil rights and voting rights for blacks will lead to the radical marginalization of those who oppose those things. But who cares if they are radically marginalized? Do you support racism?

It is jail sentence for a preacher to preach against Homosexuality but Islamists can burn US flags and even construct a mosque at the world trade center

What about a teacher who spews racist propaganda?

Homosexual activism represents the greatest threat to civil and religious liberties for our children.

Translated: "Equal rights represent the greatest threat to civil and religious liberties for our children."

At stake are such things as:

This is nothing but plagiarism. You have blatantly copied and pasted an entire article from somewhere else without indicating that you did, or linking to the source.

Swedish Pastor Faces Jail for Preaching against Homosexuality
Canadian Pastor Faces Jail Time And Fines Over Criticism Of Homosexuality

In your rabid racism and dishonesty, you conveniently forgot to mention that both of them were acquitted in the end.

This kind of blatant dishonesty can be seen throughout your crazy posts in this forum, including the ones where you argue that child pornography should be distributed freely.

Originally posted by christarzan:

Have you not heard about The Folsom Street Fair
Haven't you heard about Mardi Grass?

The dishonesty is amazing. First you claim that the Gay Pride Parade is about sex orgies on the street, and then you list completely unrelated examples when your blatant lie is exposed?

Nice.

People can trash, burn and kick a Christian but not a muslim because a muslim will kill you not a Christian

And that's why Muslims are better than Christians?

Originally posted by prd3:

Originally posted by christarzan:

People can trash, burn and kick a Christian but not a muslim because a muslim will kill you not a Christian

And that's why Muslims are better than Christians?

First of all it's a red herring, and ( surprise, surprise ) a hypocritical one too. He claims he's not religious, nobody brought up christianity or islam at all, he just threw it in to change topic.

Originally posted by prd3:

Homosexual activism represents the greatest threat to civil and religious liberties for our children.

Translated: "Equal rights represent the greatest threat to civil and religious liberties for our children."

Religious liberties is an idiom I usually hear used in a sense that means "my liberty to stifle other people's liberties." This one fits right in with that.

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Originally posted by Museatlantis:

Originally posted by daddy67:

l do respect your opinions but l will be the last man standing.can someone answer me.l have tried to check the web and found nothing .HOW DO GAY PEOPlE have SEX.? do they SQUEZEE the BALLs to feel the fantasy .? am asking in an innocent way.

They do it pretty much the same as straight people

could you please explain what u mean ?

Originally posted by vichimex:

... their master is devil (satan) who is the originator ...

So, where can I meet that guy? He does have an address somewhere outside your head, does he?

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Originally posted by Sunky4u:

* i don't believe one is 'biologically gay' - it's a matter of choosing it as a lifestyle

Feel free to prove this any time by turning gay for a week.

Originally posted by Sunky4u:

* i don't believe one is 'biologically gay' - it's a matter of choosing it as a lifestyle

Yeah, all those gay people just woke up one morning and decided to no longer be attracted to women, but to men instead. Everyone loves to be discriminated against like that. Especially back when it was against the law and you could be killed for it. All of those people just thought it would be fun to be burned alive as punishment.

Originally posted by Macallan:

Originally posted by Sunky4u:

* i don't believe one is 'biologically gay' - it's a matter of choosing it as a lifestyle

Feel free to prove this any time by turning gay for a week.

too bad, i am not going to try >>>> besides i'm not here to make enemies just stating my opinion >>> don't see why we can't see eye to eye on other issues >>> like how bad The Last Airbender was or how brilliant Inception is, to me it's just a step short of beating the Matrix >>>> ciao !!!!

Originally posted by Sunky4u:

Originally posted by Macallan:

Originally posted by Sunky4u:

* i don't believe one is 'biologically gay' - it's a matter of choosing it as a lifestyle

Feel free to prove this any time by turning gay for a week.

too bad, i am not going to try >>>>

Well, if you can't do it's obviously not much of a choice.

Originally posted by Sunky4u:

besides i'm not here to make enemies just stating my opinion >>>

What makes you think you did?

Originally posted by Sunky4u:

don't see why we can't see eye to eye on other issues >>> like how bad The Last Airbender was or how brilliant Inception is, to me it's just a step short of beating the Matrix >>>> ciao !!!!

I guess you just realized that you can't support your claims so you try to change the topic.

@ Macallan >>> o.k u win >>> that's it

Originally posted by Macallan:

I guess you just realized that you can't support your claims so you try to change the topic.

i guess u have the "perfect claim" to be able to lamblast any body against gay marriage >>>> this is what trying to be a good guy does >>> i'm taken 4 a sissy >>>> funny !!!!

Originally posted by Sunky4u:

Originally posted by Macallan:

I guess you just realized that you can't support your claims so you try to change the topic.

i guess u have the "perfect claim" to be able to lamblast any body against gay marriage >>>> this is what trying to be a good guy does >>> i'm taken 4 a sissy >>>> funny !!!!

I guess you don't understand what arguments are. You made a claim ( homosexuality is a choice ), I demonstrated it's nonsense ( you can't choose to be homosexual ), you start whining & bitching. Now what is your point again?
Besides, what makes you look like a sissy is just this kind of whining.

What is with the influx of Seagulls in this thread?

Maybe their homo?

I have no idea, Mr. Howie.


By the way, I found this for ya *evil laugh* :

Gayed Britain?

Well, the pink part is from the scottish flag

California's Proposition 8. which forbids gays and lesbians form getting married has just been overturned.
http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_15677141

A San Francisco federal judge today struck down California's ban on same-sex marriage, concluding that it tramples on the equal rights of gay and lesbian couples and setting the stage for an appeal that appears destined for the U.S. Supreme Court.
In a 136-page ruling, Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker sided with two same-sex couples who challenged voter-approved Proposition 8, which embedded a ban on gay marriage in the California constitution and wiped out a prior California Supreme Court ruling that briefly legalized same-sex nuptials across the state. Walker ordered that Proposition 8 should be immediately voided, and same-sex couples be given the chance marry across California.

Originally posted by Sanguinemoon:

California's Proposition 8. which forbids gays and lesbians form getting married has just been overturned.

Also, since people are throwing celebs into the mix: http://twitter.com/wilw/status/20333971174

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I don't bash homosexuals, but I do need help with this one. Is there any kind of consenting activity that might be beyond the pale? If so, why?

@ Jaybro now that was some hardcore sh*t

Originally posted by Jaybro:

I don't bash homosexuals, but I do need help with this one. Is there any kind of consenting activity that might be beyond the pale? If so, why?

Not in public. So disgusting.

Try that in NJ and you'll be quickly arrested for Disorderly Conduct (Lewdness). And you will be found guilty and appropriately sentenced.