"Is there a way to disable the auto update to 10.53" and complaints about 10.53

"Is there a way to disable the auto update to 10.53" and complaints about 10.53

Let us know if there is a way to disable the annoying pop-up to "upgrade" to 10.53. One, until the minimize button comes back, I won't upgrade. Two, why is it filled out to automatically set to "download and 'upgrade'"? If I wanted to "upgrade", I would've downloaded it and installed it manually (I use the classic installer for a variety of reasons).

Let me know and thanks,


Chris

Preferences, Security, auto-update, do not check for updates.

The minimize button came back already in 10.54 — though its still a snapshot build.

WARNING: This is a development snapshot with the latest changes. It may contain severe bugs and cause data loss. Or it may be all you have ever wanted.

Updating to 10.53 is recommended for both security and speed, that's why auto-update is recommended.

For SPEED? is that some kind of sick joke?

10.53 is timing out all over the place, taking ages to render pages, failing to download files (they just vanish), taking several seconds to do something as simple as switching tabs, & intermittently freezing me out of the farthest right tab (nothing happens when clicked; I have to drag another tab to the farthest right position before I can access the tab I want). This is without a doubt the least effective and most unpleasant version I've seen, and I've been using Opera as my primary browser for seven or eight years. WTF happened? These are issues I wouldn't expect in a beta release, let alone a semi-forced upgrade. How do I get back to a version that WORKS?

I do not like auto-updates (and other auto-things except for my car )

It reminds me of Microsoft and weird things which happen after you confirm something. I think that a user should choose if he wants to update or not - and not the software itself.

Originally posted by anapurma:

I think that a user should choose if he wants to update or not - and not the software itself.

And he can choose it, as it is in preferences dialog. As it was said - it's enabled by default for security issues. Advanced user might turn it off and make updates manually, while not advanced user doesn't have to worry about making updates.

Pozdrawiam / Greetings

Originally posted by S1m0n:

is that some kind of sick joke?

Opera 10.54 was 58% faster than 10.53 on my system in the PeaceKeeper Javascript test, and over six times faster than 10.1. If you are experiencing problems with pages not loading, etc., search the forums and resolve your issues rather than trolling in this thread.

Try a clean installation, or reset your profile by deleting operaprefs.ini in your profile folder.

Below are screen-captures of a post in this thread - the upper image being Opera and the lower Firefox. These were taken seconds apart on the same system, with all the same programs running & both browsers open to the same page. Check out the difference in how the images display. Firefox looks great, but in 10.53, your avatar looks like something I used to see when I was running Windows 3.1 in a IBM 386.

On my scorecard, that's four major bugs:

1. So slow it's like being on dial-up.
2. I have to shuffle the open tabs to get into the tab on the right.
3. It takes several tries to get a download happening, despite going through the 'save to..' dialog. The first two or three times, nothing happens.
4. Images are grossly pixilated



I'd have taken a bug or two in stride, but finding four big bugs at once on an 18 month old system (when I wasn't even looking for bugs) is excessive. It leaves me gravely doubting the quality of code. I've been a long-term user and frequent evangelist for Opera, but this no longer a program I can recommend to my clients.

As I said:

Originally posted by Pesala:

If you are experiencing problems with pages not loading, etc., search the forums and resolve your issues rather than trolling in this thread.

The image pixelation is due to Turbo mode being on — turn it off, in Preferences, web pages.

The slowness is something else as Turbo would normally make browsing 2-3x faster — search for "slow" or "proxy."

Opera 10.53 is blisteringly fast.

The problem here, is Opera is now SO GOOD, that there are alot of upset Firefox and Chrome fanboys coming to the forums, claiming to be "long term Opera users that are sticking with old Opera versions because 10.5x sux"...

Originally posted by mgillespie:

Opera 10.53 is blisteringly fast.
The problem here, is Opera is now SO GOOD, that there are alot of upset Firefox and Chrome fanboys coming to the forums, claiming to be "long term Opera users that are sticking with old Opera versions because 10.5x sux"...

This suppose to be joke, right? Because it's not funny for someone that is using Opera for years and now finds it unusable. From my perspective, problems with proxy (endless "searching for host <proxy_host>" and "crossdomainerror" appearing suddenly without any rational reason) are real pain from 10.50, and starting with 10.53 I'm also experiencing Opera's constantly eating 30%-50% CPU (no, not a Flash problem) which immediately causes Opera to be so slooooow that restart is a must (do think its funny to be forced to restart browser twice per every hour?).

Ignore mgillespie, he's been trolling around long for now with these "fanboy" and "long time Opera users, hah, you can't be, you have just couple of forum posts" arguments.. obviously he's the fanboy, defending Opera blindly and is forced to use these inane arguments..

I've used Opera from around year 2000, the 10.5x version "activated" me on these forums.. I guess that speaks volumes.. 10.5x is alpha at best, so many bugs/problems, poor CPU/memory/resources performance.. etc., just look at the massive bad feedback in these forums.. it seems that I'll be skipping 10.5x -> ? versions..

BACK TO THE TOPIC: those who want to use the "notify only" auto-update setting, it might be worth to check out the Opera forcing automatic updates ON (in update dialog) topic.

Originally posted by Pesala:

As I said:

Originally posted by Pesala:

If you are experiencing problems with pages not loading, etc., search the forums and resolve your issues rather than trolling in this thread.

The image pixelation is due to Turbo mode being on — turn it off, in Preferences, web pages.

The slowness is something else as Turbo would normally make browsing 2-3x faster — search for "slow" or "proxy."

Thank you; that's a help.

Originally posted by natural-kutkaa:

Ignore mgillespie, he's been trolling around long for now with these "fanboy" and "long time Opera users, hah, you can't be, you have just couple of forum posts" arguments.. obviously he's the fanboy, defending Opera blindly and is forced to use these inane arguments..

I see by checking that my user profile here dates from 2005, and I mention then having been a user since Opera 6. I think the first version I installed was actually Opera 5; I didn't find this forum for a while. Or need it.

Hmm. Manually switching off turbo has done wonders for the speed, too. That might have been the main problem.

Originally posted by S1m0n:

Manually switching off turbo has done wonders for the speed, too.

See if the solution offered in this post helps.

Originally posted by choope:

Check to see if "Enable HTTP 1.1 for proxy" in enabled. Preferences > Network > Proxy Servers. Opera Turbo and accelerators provided by an ISP use a proxy.

Same here, 10.53. Annoyed me right away. For one, the Skin I use doesn't seem to work anymore, then I had to retrieve the menue bar from among the tabs (took me some moemnts to find it there, never had it there before), and the page buildup was incredibly slow.
I realise this must be due to Opera Turbo which basically is a great idea, but right from the beginning, it tended to jump in all by itself and without notification, which is a bad idea.
I have DSL, so I normally won't need it, and it often does the opposite of what it should be, but can be very useful to get rid of annoying pop-ups and in-screen ads that optically block page content.

In any case, I reverted instantly to 10.10 which has done me all the good in the world and is very fast.

About 10.53, I really like the private tabs - what a great idea!, and the torrent download is so fast I got dizzy, and no more problems there.

With torrents/ downloads, still miss data as to total time of download, and, preferably the precise whens, too, like "from 18:50 to 19:00", with larger nfiles. There was other data.
I didn't stop to check and see if the organisation of the bookmarks has improved?

The lack of choice as to upgrading or not is a very bad idea. I usdually download new Opera versions and install them when I find the time to really look at them.

I hope 10:5x or some still newer version will again be working for me. Keep up the great work!

Oh, and for those male morons who think trolling, pi**ing contests and pulling seniority is a good idea: I'm not a fanBOY, and I've been using Opera since V 3.62, and the files to show for it.

Originally posted by dohling:

right from the beginning, it tended to jump in all by itself and without notification,

If you have it set to "Auto" that's what its supposed to do.

Originally posted by dohling:

it often does the opposite of what it should

If browsing gets slower with Turbo enabled, you need to change a setting. Try Preferences, Network, Proxy Servers, Enable HTTP1.1 for proxy. That seems to fix the problem for some users at least.

Originally posted by dohling:

In any case, I reverted instantly to 10.10

Instantly? What, without even checking the forums for possible solutions?

Originally posted by dohling:

The lack of choice as to upgrading or not is a very bad idea.

You have the same choices as in 10.1 when it was first introduced — enable auto-updates, disable it, or notify me about available updates. The recommended setting is enable auto-updates — the default setting is "notify me." Experienced users can disable it and check manually when they're ready.

Originally posted by dohling:

I usdually download new Opera versions and install them when I find the time to really look at them.

Definitely the best policy unless you're waiting for a particular bug fix.

If you use the Classic installer, its easy to install separate versions in different folders — I have 10.1, 10.53, and 10.54 snapshot build installed. I use 10.53, which is the best version by far in spite of a few remaining bugs, many of which are fixed in 10.54. The latest Windows build is 3390.

I use Opera a lot because I like it. From my experience of using it for 4years or more I should say that - the automatic update and the update itself is real bad. At the moment I'm using Firefox to browse because my updated Opera 10.53 is not opening! I regret that I updated it.

i don't get whats with minimize-button, i am using 10.53 and i have the 3 min/max/close i am used to.
wtf??

and i never had any problem - i got trough most of 10.5 alphas, and still have no problems.
guys - how do you manage to mess up something as stable as opera?
i browse so much.. ghm - unsafe websites and using opera for developing purposes - its stable as mount everest.

Originally posted by bleicher:

i have the 3 min/max/close i am used to.

Tile or cascade the tabs and there is no minimize button on each tab's title bar.

Originally posted by bleicher:

how do you manage to mess up something as stable as opera?

There are so many variables in how users have Opera configured, which sites they use, and how many tabs they open at once — some users clearly do have problems. I initially had a problem logging in to Gmail after upgrading to 10.5, but enabling all security protocols fixed that.

Originally posted by mgillespie:

The problem here, is Opera is now SO GOOD, that there are alot of upset Firefox and Chrome fanboys coming to the forums, claiming to be "long term Opera users that are sticking with old Opera versions because 10.5x sux"...

Fine, you like Opera 10.5, nobody's saying you shouldn't. But stop repeating this conspiracy theory nonsense about "Firefox and Chrome fanboys", when most of the people coming here are complaining about genuine problems and bugs in 10.5, some of which have been fixed in recent updates, some of which definitely haven't.

There are things that have been improved in 10.5, but on the other hand some brilliant features (including some of my absolute favourites) from previous Opera versions are buggy and broken in it. In some ways performance is improved, but on my system 10.5 definitely feels less responsive and has some annoying display glitches.

Plenty of the people sticking with 10.10 because of the issues with 10.5, including myself, have indeed been using Opera since its early days, and are only complaining because we want Opera to become a browser we enjoy using again.

You may not experience the problems and annoyances we do, but that doesn't mean that they aren't real.