Does the Opera relly fast ?

Does the Opera relly fast ?

I have internet connection with speed 10 mbs guaranteed. and was very surprised yesterday testing the speed via speedtest.net. The speed was 5mbs download and 6 mbs upload. I have requested my provider what's up and the reply have been received: It's often depends on your browser. I said with proud - I'm using The Opera - fastest browser on the Earth. Few seconds ago I finished tests again using Opera and Firefox.
To my regret I saw -
Opera - Ping - 18ms, Download-5.03 mbs, Upload -5.43
Firefox in few seconds : Ping - 6ms, Download-18.45 mbs, Upload -19.09

Tested few times in different combination..

so - the question is - how that's possible ? Does Firefox become much faster?
Roman

what they said about the browser is a lie, it does not matter what browser your using.it depends on the connection itself and if the computer can handle that fast speed, also using another dns server can help, the reason firefox may be faster is because all the browsers do things differently, where they came up with the browser answer is beyond me as not all browswers are not created equal. if the browsers were all created equal then they all would do the same thing and work the same.

thanks for your comments
OK, the main question is - how to make my Opera browser faster than Firefox ?
Because I like Opera and used to but don't want to loose in speed...

yes, I like to know it too
but according to my opinion, the speed of opera browser is depend on your connection n computer specifications, such as your modem, RAM, Proccessor you used n what kinda Windows or Linux you use.
I use Windows n got n0 problem with the speed by increasing my RAM speed

You're not losing in speed, this is a bandwidth test, not a browser test. It merely tests your connection speed, and like soldier said, the reason you're getting different numbers is because of the browsers doing things slightly differently. If you want to test your browser then you need to test rendering speed, java script handling and so on. You can run those sorts of tests here
http://clients.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/index.action

I've tested a few browsers on my system and you can view the results here
http://clients.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/results.action?key=3Wb4

2 maswib: I have tested the speed by two browsers using speed test few times.. and always Opers shows poorest result

2 scatbin: have tested . Opera has 1071 , Firefox - 695. but what does it mean? I have feeling that Firefox a little bit faster and it confirmed by speedtest.net. I'm not a specialist in computer systems - can you pls explain by usual words ? thank you in advance:)

OK, the speed test you're doing isn't to test your browser, it's a test for your connection to the internet. This is why it shows the result in Mb/s. The reason the test results are different is because Opera is handling the test slightly differently from Firefox. It's not that you have a slower connection to the internet using Opera. What makes a browser faster or slower is how fast it can draw the page, which is why you saw the different pictures in the test. It was finding out how quickly Opera and Firefox could draw. If it was drawing slowly then it received a low score, faster drawing means a high score.

thanks for explanation So - as I right understood - Opera loads pages slowly (in compare to FireFox). But the main task of fast browser is to load pages fast, isn't it ? If Opera doing it slow (than FF) - I should use FF despite the fact it shows poor result in other test...
or am I still stupid ?

No, the test is showing that Opera draws pages faster than Firefox, which is why it got a higher score.

are you trolling us or something?

I test both minefiled(3.7 alpha 5) and opera build (3390) on peacekeeper i got this score

with the default settings of 10.54 vs minefield


10.54(3390)=6810
Minefield(alpha 5)=2712

Speed tests use the same OS sockets, they will perform EXACTLY the same. If they don't then it's caused by transient conditions in your connection.

Of course the only exception to this, is Opera Turbo which compresses content server-side, so you transfer less content for the same result.

actualy some sites like those speed test sites deliberatly give you wrong information on opera but it won't on say ie or firefox, like i said your connection determines how fast you can go and there are many other factors including ping/traffic congestion/etc... a high ping is not good as that tells you how long it takes to travel from 1 spot to another and the lower the better but if you got a slow connection then your ping will be high as it is unable to send data fast enough(that is a connection limitation and the only way to improve it is to get a better connection) wheras a low ping from a high speed connection means that data is able to travel to it's spot very fast and different browsers do things a bit differently as each has it's strengths and weaknesses, also if your dns servers are busy/full that will slow it down a bit but by changing servers you can improve your connection to a point(it won't magicaly make everything faster just it will help)

2 soldier1st:

thank you, but speed test shows same story about the ping-
Opera - ping 27ms
Firefox- ping is 5 ms

so... Tests are made at same time early morning few times and I doubt its some other factors influent to this...

Ah man, OK, everyone just +1 this to convince this guy...that speed test does NOT have anything to do with how fast your browser is, ANY browser. It doesn't matter that it shows a higher ping or lower bandwidth in opera, because it's NOT TESTING OPERA!

Im using 3g dial up connection which is too slow but
Im using firefox as default browser,
firefox much faster than opera.
I wish on next opera have more faster than firefox and opera turbo is useless.

mart0078: those speed sites always provide wrong info to opera, i don't know why maybe they don't like opera but everytime i tested opera and another browser i always got worse results for opera but not for say firefox or ie but i bet that would change if opera's market share were very high. opera turbo is best for dial up users but of course for opera turbo you loose some quality with it like certain things on websites will look darker or lighter and they need to improve that if they can.

I have to disagree on that - this problem is really there and it has nothing to do with speedtest sites. It is obvious even with straightforward file downloads - every other browser can do 80-90% of my bandwidth, but Opera does only half of it at the best.

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/11614692?startidx=200#comment29119212

I really don't think file downloads have anything to do with the browser. And saying that the problem is really there when sooo many people have commented on opera 10.5x being lightning fast makes me think this may be something to do with your system, not opera

wow, i wish i could upload at 330 kb/s, that opera user must have a pretty rockin connection. Nothing to do with opera here i'm afraid, that's all to do with connection, FYI upload speeds are generally much lower than download speeds. Try installing utorrent onto your system with unlimited upload speeds, see how far you get. I can download at over 800 kb/s but upload pretty much caps out at 60 kb/s

Originally posted by scatbin:

wow, i wish i could upload at 330 kb/s, that opera user must have a pretty rockin connection. Nothing to do with opera here i'm afraid, that's all to do with connection, FYI upload speeds are generally much lower than download speeds. Try installing utorrent onto your system with unlimited upload speeds, see how far you get. I can download at over 800 kb/s but upload pretty much caps out at 60 kb/s

where are you from ? i am from romania. take a quick view for link i pasted here maybe you get some figure
http://www.speedtest.net/global.php#0

When I check my broadband speed at http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/ I get the full speed that I would expect, and it doesn't matter whether I use Opera or Internet Explorer 8, I get exactly the same result.

However I just benchmarked Opera (10.53) with Peacekeeper, and got a score of 2309, which is rubbish!

OK! Yes! No? Maybe!?
That should answer nearly all your questions.
Yes! No?
your helpfully,
freexone

"The Opera - fastest browser on the Earth"

It was however Chrome 5 beats it now

Originally posted by freexone:

OK! Yes! No? Maybe!?
That should answer nearly all your questions.
Yes! No?
your helpfully,
freexone

I know what you mean, plz just lock this damn thread now, it has no point and it's driving me up the wall!

Originally posted by adiprenne:

you know, i am downloading now from another opera user a 700 Mb file and it makes it with only 330 kb/sec. my and his bandiwith are larger than 330 kb /sec. more larger. in this case , if opera does not increase download and upload speed , then File Sharing option becomes useless and Opera also because File sharing is one of major advantages of Opera browser . so , Opera, can you think further than this?

Different browsers use different algorithms to calculate download speed, so even if they show different speeds they are still downloading/uploading at the same speed. Your comment is basically useless.

Originally posted by Defiant1337:

"The Opera - fastest browser on the Earth"

It was however Chrome 5 beats it now

Wrong. Opera still beats Chrome 5:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9176320/New_Chrome_browser_fastest_Google_beta_yet

Originally posted by scatbin:

I know what you mean, plz just lock this damn thread now, it has no point and it's driving me up the wall!

What, just because your arguments fail to convince anyone?

If you want to convince, don't tell me I'm stupid, and don't tell me I can't count. If there are more factors to download speed, then explain which and how.

Basically: keeping the bandwidth the same, and doing a test around the same time, should result in an alike bandwidth ratio when comparing differing browsers. Download speed is download speed, no matter what browser. If not, show me how and why.

And accusing a speed test web site of forging results should be backed by some kind of proof. Otherwise, don't even bother accusing anyone.

Originally posted by prd3:

Originally posted by Defiant1337:

"The Opera - fastest browser on the Earth"

It was however Chrome 5 beats it now

Wrong. Opera still beats Chrome 5:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9176320/New_Chrome_browser_fastest_Google_beta_yet

That article is talking about Chrome 5 Beta, perhaps you should keep up-to date

Originally posted by scatbin:

You're not losing in speed, this is a bandwidth test, not a browser test. It merely tests your connection speed, and like soldier said, the reason you're getting different numbers is because of the browsers doing things slightly differently. If you want to test your browser then you need to test rendering speed, java script handling and so on. You can run those sorts of tests here
http://clients.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/index.action

I've tested a few browsers on my system and you can view the results here
http://clients.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/results.action?key=3Wb4

I just tested my installation of Opera 10.53 at Peacekeeper and all I got was 3741 as a score whereas chrome shows up much higher. Of course I don't know what operating systems others are using. I am using Vista x64 Ultimate with 6gb ram, a fast video card, and an Intel I7 920 @ 2.67 gh. Perhaps Win 7 results in it getting higher results, but I would be interested in your feedback.

Originally posted by pkperl:

I just tested my installation of Opera 10.53 at Peacekeeper and all I got was 3741 as a score whereas chrome shows up much higher. Of course I don't know what operating systems others are using. I am using Vista x64 Ultimate with 6gb ram, a fast video card, and an Intel I7 920 @ 2.67 gh. Perhaps Win 7 results in it getting higher results, but I would be interested in your feedback.

I only got 2309!

I'm using XP Pro SP3 with 4GB of RAM but a 12 year old video card!
Is the video card the problem, as it seems to still work pretty well?

Ah man, I'm starting to regret posting that link to those results. That test is for testing different browsers ON YOUR MACHINE. You're not getting the really high results 'cos you're trying to measure it up against superior machines. BUT if you do a FRESH test with different browsers you'll get a better idea of how well Opera is performing compared to other browsers. That link wasn't supposed to be a place where we could all test our Opera browser, because we all have different machines. It was just so i could show you how well Opera's performing on mine. If you wanna test your browsers, do a fresh test, here : http://service.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/index.action

PS you might wanna delete the cookies for that site before you do the test, or you'll end up looking at what used to be my results before everyone started using it

Well, I'm getting rubbish results on Peacemaker with ALL my browsers (I have five installed) so I think there's a bottleneck somewhere on my machine, and I suspect it's the graphics card.

I am getting the same broadband download and upload speeds on all my browsers though, which was what was originally queried!

It would more likely be your cpu than graphics card, as browsers are more cpu orientated. Look at the peacekeeper site and you'll notice they never note gpu;s, only cpu's

Originally posted by scatbin:

It would more likely be your cpu than graphics card, as browsers are more cpu orientated. Look at the peacekeeper site and you'll notice they never note gpu;s, only cpu's

I certainly hope it isn't my processor(s), as I have dual 3.2 GHz Xeon processors on a very powerful server motherboard!
The motherboard may be over seven years old now, bought in 2003, but the graphics card is a lot older, bought in 1998 in fact.
I'm prepared to change the graphics card, but not the motherboard, which cost a fortune!

DaveHawley, why not test it again trying the new Chrome 5 browser and you'll see what I mean, I hope Opera are working on something which surpasses that