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5.0 is incompatible with the Samsung Instinct M800
How can you claim that Opera Mini 5 is compatible with the Samsung Instinct? It's absolutely awful and I gave it a chance. Here are the problems:1) Panning around a zoomed in screen is extremely sluggish. This causes me to pan over and over again until it finally does, and then performs my swipe 5 or 6 times.
2) It crashes a lot. A typical session with OM5 lasts a few minutes, and then the screen freezes for 30 seconds, and then I'm shown the main Instinct screen with the message saying something like "Entering Sprint Service"
3) It forgets to go where I tell it to go. I'll click a link (and the UI confirms what I clicked) but when it loads the page it loads the exact same page. I then try again and sometimes it will go to the correct place and sometimes it will just reload the current page again.
4) Sometimes after clicking a link I'm immediately told "Connection failed". Well, if the connection fails that fast then the browser ought to try the link again without wasting my time to manually click the link a second time.
5) Entering text is painfully slow, which is odd because I was clearly told on this forum that OM 4's 200 character limit on text fields was a limit imposed by the phone and that there was nothing that could be done. How odd that OM 5's limit is over 5000 characters. I guess downloading 5.0 caused my phone to magically update itself as well.
Suggestions:
1) The installer should no longer permit the Samsung Instinct to download the 5.0 installer.
2) The far more stable 4.0 should still be available.
3) The phone's main back button should always duplicate OM 5's back button functionality.
5.0 is a cool little app and seems to try to give the full PC browser experience on a small phone, but it's so ridiculously buggy (and some of these clearly aren't the phone's fault) that it's useless. It really comes across like a Microsoft product where it looks pretty and works great in a carefully-controlled demonstration, but in the real world? Not so much.
Opera Mini 5.0.19693
I'm a newbie to this forum. I have an original Instinct (SPH-M800) and was able to successfully download Opera Mini 5 from the m.opera.com website. It worked great (but only in portrait mode) as I was able to page thru several of my favorite websites without any problems. HOWEVER, when I turned off my phone and returned to it sometime later, I was only able to use that terrible default browser that came with the phone. I could not find the Opera Mini referenced anywhere on the phone, and when I tried to download again from Opera website, I kept getting error and message to retry later. What's going on? How do I get Mini 5 back and make it my default browser?
Originally posted by localbrah:
Hi,
I'm a newbie to this forum. I have an original Instinct (SPH-M800) and was able to successfully download Opera Mini 5 from the m.opera.com website. It worked great (but only in portrait mode) as I was able to page thru several of my favorite websites without any problems. HOWEVER, when I turned off my phone and returned to it sometime later, I was only able to use that terrible default browser that came with the phone. I could not find the Opera Mini referenced anywhere on the phone, and when I tried to download again from Opera website, I kept getting error and message to retry later. What's going on? How do I get Mini 5 back and make it my default browser?
You should be able to locate it under Fun > Games/Apps.
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Originally posted by ScubaSteve1974:
How can you claim that Opera Mini 5 is compatible with the Samsung Instinct? It's absolutely awful and I gave it a chance. Here are the problems:
1) Panning around a zoomed in screen is extremely sluggish. This causes me to pan over and over again until it finally does, and then performs my swipe 5 or 6 times.
This is something that I cannot reproduce with my two test devices. Panning around on a zoomed-in nytimes.com is very smooth. Perhaps this is related to some particular page you frequent?
2) It crashes a lot. A typical session with OM5 lasts a few minutes, and then the screen freezes for 30 seconds, and then I'm shown the main Instinct screen with the message saying something like "Entering Sprint Service"
Confirmed. This is indeed a problem. I suspect that the phone's JVM has poor OOM (out of memory) handling which triggers a kernel panic when Opera Mini 5 has used up all of its memory.
You may always install the Instinct build of Opera Mini 4.2 from http://m.opera.com/instinct/ if you prefer to use the older version.
3) It forgets to go where I tell it to go. I'll click a link (and the UI confirms what I clicked) but when it loads the page it loads the exact same page. I then try again and sometimes it will go to the correct place and sometimes it will just reload the current page again.
This should be working much better now after the recent Opera Mini server software upgrades.
4) Sometimes after clicking a link I'm immediately told "Connection failed". Well, if the connection fails that fast then the browser ought to try the link again without wasting my time to manually click the link a second time.
The phone's JVM is responsible for handing connections. Opera Mini only responds to messages from the JVM's connection manager.
5) Entering text is painfully slow, which is odd because I was clearly told on this forum that OM 4's 200 character limit on text fields was a limit imposed by the phone and that there was nothing that could be done. How odd that OM 5's limit is over 5000 characters. I guess downloading 5.0 caused my phone to magically update itself as well.
Yes, I can also see the number 5524 when editing an input field in fullscreen edit mode in Opera Mini 5.0. However, this doesn't seem to indicate the character limit. As soon as you hit the T icon and start typing, you get the 200 character limit again. I have no explanation for the number 5524 in fullscreen edit, but it doesn't seem to be harmful either.
Suggestions:
1) The installer should no longer permit the Samsung Instinct to download the 5.0 installer.
I disagree. We don't want to put up any artificial barrier for Instinct users to install Opera Mini 5.
2) The far more stable 4.0 should still be available.
It is still available, at http://m.opera.com/instinct/
3) The phone's main back button should always duplicate OM 5's back button functionality.
I agree that this would be a good thing. In the JVM on the Instinct, this key reports itself as -8 / CLEAR which normally is the key-code for the backspace key on a device. Support for this kind of back key is currently being discussed internally. We must weigh the benefit of convenience for a group of Samsung devices against the danger of introducing unknown unwanted behavior on other devices.
5.0 is a cool little app and seems to try to give the full PC browser experience on a small phone, but it's so ridiculously buggy (and some of these clearly aren't the phone's fault) that it's useless. It really comes across like a Microsoft product where it looks pretty and works great in a carefully-controlled demonstration, but in the real world? Not so much.
Opera Mini 5.0.19693
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I am new to the forums here, but I am not a new opera mini user. The latest version that I am currently running on my instinct sph-m800 is, opera mini 4.2. I just tried downloading opera mini 5.something, but the page said that my phone is not compatible. However the person above said that opera does not want to exclude anyone from using opera mini. Furthermore, I tried the link that us given above, and all it does redirects me to download opera mini 4.2, which I already have on my phone. So I am wondering if it is so that us instinct users can download OM 5.x, where is this link?