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18. May 2010, 10:04:08

Frenzie

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Document A/777

Document A/777
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A taste of world history behind the adoption of “the conscience of mankind”, the Universal declaration of Human Rights, by American writer and journalist Norman Corwin.
Language: English
Genre: Drama
1950


A radio drama about the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, still relevant today.

As we face potential oppression it's important to remember why we should not censor ourselves in the depiction of Muhammed or any other matter, nor give up civil rights in the light of potential security. We've come too far for that.
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18. May 2010, 11:28:32

Jaybro

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I'm not sure just how "we face Muslim oppression." I don't feel oppressed in any sense, but I do sense opposition. Even then, I see that as marginal. Maybe that's the detachment that comes from living in Grand Rapids where the specter is weak.

For the non-Christians among us, the greatly diminished power of Christianity in the West fails to sting, although in small instances it can still smart. That diminished power is reflected in the supremacy of civil authority and the concomitant diminution of the power of religious institutions to control public policy.

I certainly agree with you on self-censorship, however.

Does anybody have any input on the diminishing power of Islam in any country that is basically "Islamic"?
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18. May 2010, 12:54:05

Frenzie

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In Jordan, Iraq, and the like women increasingly wear "modern" clothing (like jeans).
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18. May 2010, 14:32:29

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jax

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Originally posted by Jaybro:

Does anybody have any input on the diminishing power of Islam in any country that is basically "Islamic"?


It all seems to be good old-fashioned Newtonian action and reaction driven by globalisation. Reactionaries in position of power rapidly lose popularity, while reactionaries in opposition to power gain attention.
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18. May 2010, 15:14:05

garydenness

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Originally posted by Frenzie:

In Jordan, Iraq, and the like women increasingly wear "modern" clothing (like jeans).



There's plenty of saucy lingerie on sale in malls in Saudi too.....

yikes

18. May 2010, 16:20:46

Thabotizz

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awww faint
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18. May 2010, 18:52:47

Macallan

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Originally posted by Frenzie:

In Jordan, Iraq, and the like women increasingly wear "modern" clothing (like jeans).


Afghanistan before the soviet invasion was well on its way in that direction.
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18. May 2010, 19:41:10

Jaybro

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Originally posted by Macallan:

Afghanistan before the soviet invasion was well on its way in that direction.


As an aside, I have an impression of Afghanistan as not even moving in the direction of the present century. I watched the following documentary yesterday and was repulsed.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/dancingboys/view/

Obviously, one can't judge a whole country by one horrendous instance of injustice, but this one is truly disgusting.
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18. May 2010, 19:42:36

Macallan

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Originally posted by Jaybro:

Originally posted by Macallan:

Afghanistan before the soviet invasion was well on its way in that direction.


As an aside, I have an impression of Afghanistan as not even moving in the direction of the present century.


Yeah, now they're heading for the bronze age.
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18. May 2010, 19:53:58

OnetimePoster

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Afghanistan is not a country.
It never was.

19. May 2010, 16:02:14

Thabotizz

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Excuse me Macallan! Isn't this the information age? So, are they going back or they haven't been there yet? confused
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21. May 2010, 16:01:47

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jax

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Originally posted by OnetimePoster:

Afghanistan is not a country.
It never was.

Maybe more a crucible of great powers.

Originally posted by Foreign Affairs:

China's hunger for natural resources also means that Beijing will take substantial risks to secure them. It is mining for copper south of Kabul, in war-torn Afghanistan, and has its eye on the region's iron, gold, uranium, and precious gems (the region has some of the world's last untapped deposits). Beijing hopes to build roads and energy pipelines through Afghanistan and Pakistan as well, linking up its budding Central Asian dominion to ports on the Indian Ocean. China's strategic geography would be enhanced if the United States stabilized Afghanistan.

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21. May 2010, 22:28:06

rjhowie

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So Afghanistan is not a country now? Our soldiers must be hallucinating of is it a hologram?

1. November 2010, 04:51:56

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<a href="http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8907181401">VP: Tehran Resolved to Revive Ancient Silk-Road through Railway</a>

Originally posted by Fars News Agency:

Earlier in September, a senior Iranian lawmaker underlined the importance of an international rail line which is due to link Iran, Afghanistan, Tajikistan and China in the near future, saying that it would revive the ancient Silk Road.

Speaking at a dinner banquet in Shanghai, Asadollah Badamchian said, "Iran-Afghanistan-Tajikistan-China railway is due to be inaugurated soon in future. In fact, it would be a rail Silk Road."

Earlier reports said that Beijing plans to build a new railway which links China to the Mediterranean Sea through Central Asia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran.

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4. November 2010, 21:44:29

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Originally posted by Jaybro:

don't feel oppressed in any sense, but I do sense opposition. Even then, I see that as marginal.



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12. November 2010, 20:18:33

string

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Hmm - with a little bit of imaginative carving the old divide & rule principle could be applied. If Afghanistan were made smaller ......
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12. November 2010, 20:46:14

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Parcel it out in dribs and drabs. A city for you, a province for me, etc.
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12. November 2010, 21:45:16

MAXXTHRUST

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Originally posted by Jaybro:

Does anybody have any input on the diminishing power of Islam in any country that is basically "Islamic"?



From experience I would say Dubai and Jakarta predominately Muslim but the business of sin and night clubs also flourish...
now venture outside of these districts is questionable. Then there is Kuwait.... "BORING."
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