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Opera Mini 5 for Nokia 2330 Classic?
I downloaded Opera Mini 5 and transferred it to my Nokia 2330 classic phone via bluetooth and put it in an empty folder. I then tried to install Opera Mini 5, and it installed, but cannot finish loading and opening (the loading bar refuses to complete to 100% from 90% and doesn't move to 100%.I checked the free memory in the phone and it says I have 4.1 MB free. Is this not enough for Opera Mini 5 to work? Or is version 5 not suitable for my phone?
Okay, let's get on it... Nokia 2330 is too limited for Opera Mini 5. It has too small display and the amount of memory you mentioned is not the same as phone's RAM. Manufacturers don't usually tell the amount of RAM, and I could not found it at usual places where I check it, but I'm quite sure this model has very limited amount of RAM.
My advice, just forget it and use OM4.2. Nokia 2330 is not on list of tested phones either, but I guess OM4.2 shoud run on it. Go to m.opera.com using phone's built-in browser to see what version Opera's service recommends.
My advice, just forget it and use OM4.2. Nokia 2330 is not on list of tested phones either, but I guess OM4.2 shoud run on it. Go to m.opera.com using phone's built-in browser to see what version Opera's service recommends.
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Thanks for replying.
I already have Opera Mini 4.1 and 4.2 in the phone. In fact when I went to m.opera.com, I was offered both 5 and 4.2 on the same page. So came here to check. Thought OM 5 could resize to fit my small screen. Was wondering how much free memory it needs minimum to run. Yesterday I got an error saying "out of memory" while loading. Anyone knows how much more memory should I free up to see how OM 5 works on my phone?
I already have Opera Mini 4.1 and 4.2 in the phone. In fact when I went to m.opera.com, I was offered both 5 and 4.2 on the same page. So came here to check. Thought OM 5 could resize to fit my small screen. Was wondering how much free memory it needs minimum to run. Yesterday I got an error saying "out of memory" while loading. Anyone knows how much more memory should I free up to see how OM 5 works on my phone?
Space occupied by application is ~ 1.4MB and should remain free 700>1.2 therefore total memory must be more than 2MB (dynamic). Opera Mini occupying space where my phone has 3.6Mb (recalculated, dynamic 1.5>7.7MB) free memory and never was reported an error related. /K800i
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Yes, like Sagrid said:
It's a little hard to explain what this "dynamic" memory is but it's somewhat similar as RAM on PCs. The memory what you can see is so called non-volatile memory, like the hard drive on PCs. RAM on the other hand is the memory allocated for software to run the processes. RAM is used because it's faster than storage drive, but especially on phones the RAM is quite limited. In this case Nokia 2330 obviously do not have enough RAM, and there's no way you can change that.
Originally posted by SAGRID:
total memory must be more than 2MB (dynamic).
It's a little hard to explain what this "dynamic" memory is but it's somewhat similar as RAM on PCs. The memory what you can see is so called non-volatile memory, like the hard drive on PCs. RAM on the other hand is the memory allocated for software to run the processes. RAM is used because it's faster than storage drive, but especially on phones the RAM is quite limited. In this case Nokia 2330 obviously do not have enough RAM, and there's no way you can change that.
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I suppose the best way after Opera software's list of tested phones is to ask here on this forum 
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Originally posted by serola:
In this case Nokia 2330 obviously do not have enough RAM, and there's no way you can change that.
RAM is only a number and what is 'dynamic' is controlled by opera mini server. On short any synthetic calculation has no importance starting with the moment when the application is launched.
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21. May 2010, 12:04:42 (edited)
Originally posted by SAGRID:
RAM is only a number and what is 'dynamic' is controlled by opera mini server.
Hmm.. I have understood all phones does not actually have dynamic heap memory (RAM), and in many phones this dynamic memory is controlled in the firmware level. For examlple SE K800 allocates a certain amount of heap for photos. I do recommend to read my modest attempt to understand all this: http://my.opera.com/opera.mini/blog/2008/05/17/find-out-how-much-memory-you-have-in-your-phone
And feedback on that is always welcome
EDIT: @ Kevin - I found it
There's 1MB heap (RAM) only on Nokia 2330 EDIT: And max Jar size is quite small as well:Memory Max User Storage: 10 MB SDRAM Memory: 4 MB Max JAR Size: 512 KB Heap size: 1 MB
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Originally posted by serola:
Originally posted by SAGRID:
RAM is only a number and what is 'dynamic' is controlled by opera mini server.
Hmm.. I have understood all phones does not actually have dynamic heap memory (RAM), and in many phones this dynamic memory is controlled in the firmware level. For examlple SE K800 allocates a certain amount of heap for photos. I do recommend to read my modest attempt to understand all this: http://my.opera.com/opera.mini/blog/2008/05/17/find-out-how-much-memory-you-have-in-your-phone
And feedback on that is always welcome
Is possible that this information is important in pre-testing phase but for a final product (or beta) 'microedition platform' is the only important information for a proper app functioning and then opera mini servers are guided to control the cache and thus indirectly memory management so all data about resources real or not automatically become virtual on server side.
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@serola-you said that opera mini 5.0 requires about 2 mb ram.
But does ram usage differ on different OS's??
Because on my 5230,opera mini 5.0 uses about 8 mb ram.
I had 30 mb free while running om,when i closed it,ram increased to 38 mb.
But does ram usage differ on different OS's??
Because on my 5230,opera mini 5.0 uses about 8 mb ram.
I had 30 mb free while running om,when i closed it,ram increased to 38 mb.
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@ Chinu - Program takes as much RAM as available for history (cache) and pictures. Thus the size of total amount of heap (RAM) used can increase to those values. I suppsoe Nokia 5230 has a lot of RAM
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@Chinu92 the memory that is freed up also includes the memory taken by cache, so would depend on how long you've been browsing and the sites visited, and also the page size of the pages visited.
A better measure(although not perfect) would be to check free memory before loading Opera Mini and when Opera Mini is running.
A better measure(although not perfect) would be to check free memory before loading Opera Mini and when Opera Mini is running.
@ Chinu - It really is strange that OM5 seems to take 8MB on your phone I have no explanation for that
On SE K800 the OM5 Java MIDlet itself seem to take only ~670kB.
I have no explanation for that On SE K800 the OM5 Java MIDlet itself seem to take only ~670kB.
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1.4MB with k800i/5beta1 - tested with heap clearer
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