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FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Originally posted by zain9:
this UN-natural method of sex
Unnatural? About 10% of ALL living creatures are gay, man. This is an incomplete list, which may never be able to satisfy certain standards for completion.
P.S. Your first post...? Registered a new account just to express an opinion? That's so sad. Be proud and admit you're also gay.
Originally posted by zain9:
this is most unfortunate that those who are well educated and have balanced view points on life concerning matters have chosen this UN-natural method of sex which is condemned in all religions .in the older tribe of Israel the community known as LOUT was committed to this habit who were restrained by prophet LOUT; yet; they denied to submit and were washed away from globe by viz-major.Medically it has been found high risk area resulting into many incurable diseases including AIDS.
Wow, I respect your opinion and your right to have that opinion.
Could you possible tell me which incurable diseases are caused by homosexuality alone.
In respect of peoples sexuality, it doesnt bother me in the slightest. I also believe that homosexuality has been rife in our species for a long long time so I kind of think that homosexuality is natural. I also believe that a person' sexuality has got nothing to do with anybody else but that person.
Maybe we should judge people, not on the sexuality, race, religion but on who the person is.
moral educationists; and medicos dealing with PREVENTIVE SOCIAL MEDICINE.
Originally posted by zain9:
my friends above had shown their concern by way of dissent. they have right to dissent as in fact the homosexuality had developed in the west as also in other parts of the world as a recognized and acceptable social behavior;yet; on plain medical terms the physically transmittable diseases mentioned in social medicine includes the homo sex as one of the major contributor for diseases like and AIDS.definitely;judging the people not on race and religion shall not necessarily exclude other factors to judge them which also includes their social-etiquette; moral standard; education etc; which while taken together makes them assessable;this method of sex is never recognized as natural method of sex; not by religionists alone; but by
moral educationists; and medicos dealing with PREVENTIVE SOCIAL MEDICINE.
Both siplis(sic) and AIDS are transmittable by heterosexual and homosexual penetrative sex so I don't see how it is just homosexuals responsibility.
You are also correct in that when we judge someone it is the whole character that must be judged, not just a singular facet of it. If someone is kind, respectful, does good deeds- to me they are a good person and if someone is kind, respectful,does good deeds but also gay, to me they are still good people.
Once again I respect your opinion and I can understand why you have this opinion but to me, a persons sexuality is of little concern to me.
Originally posted by rgenerationx:
Can anyone tell me, are homo's born homo's or they can become afterwards also???
LOL
All I can say about this is that I have always been heterosexual for as long as I can remember but my one gay friend did say that she had always known that she preferred people of the same sex. In her opinion, she has always been gay.
Originally posted by buddie994:
Originally posted by zain9:
my friends above had shown their concern by way of dissent. they have right to dissent as in fact the homosexuality had developed in the west as also in other parts of the world as a recognized and acceptable social behavior;yet; on plain medical terms the physically transmittable diseases mentioned in social medicine includes the homo sex as one of the major contributor for diseases like and AIDS.definitely;judging the people not on race and religion shall not necessarily exclude other factors to judge them which also includes their social-etiquette; moral standard; education etc; which while taken together makes them assessable;this method of sex is never recognized as natural method of sex; not by religionists alone; but by
moral educationists; and medicos dealing with PREVENTIVE SOCIAL MEDICINE.
Both siplis(sic) and AIDS are transmittable by heterosexual and homosexual penetrative sex so I don't see how it is just homosexuals responsibility.
Actually both are transmitted by blood although syphilis can be transmitted by other bodily fluids as well. Nothing inherently homosexual about that.
( I bet zain9 also believes you can 'cure' homosexuality by torture & brainwashing
)FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Originally posted by e-berlin:
Originally posted by zain9:
this UN-natural method of sex
Unnatural? About 10% of ALL living creatures are gay, man. This is an incomplete list, which may never be able to satisfy certain standards for completion.
Don't confuse him with facts

Originally posted by e-berlin:
P.S. Your first post...? Registered a new account just to express an opinion? That's so sad. Be proud and admit you're also gay.
Yeah, many of those who think it's a disease that can be cured have been brainwashed into hating it and are afraid to come out of the closet for that reason.
FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Originally posted by Macallan:
Yeah, many of those who think it's a disease that can be cured have been brainwashed into hating it and are afraid to come out of the closet for that reason.
Fact. But I'd say most of them, not many. But that goes back to one's childhood, so we don't have to be mad at them - about 20% of the hardcore homophobes are sexually abused by their fathers, the other 50% are latent homosexuals unconsciously hating themselves for being gay deep inside and the other 30% are just brainwashed by family, church, media and/or other homophobes.
Originally posted by e-berlin:
Originally posted by Macallan:
Yeah, many of those who think it's a disease that can be cured have been brainwashed into hating it and are afraid to come out of the closet for that reason.
Fact. But I'd say most of them, not many. But that goes back to one's childhood, so we don't have to be mad at them - about 20% of the hardcore homophobes are sexually abused by their fathers, the other 50% are latent homosexuals unconsciously hating themselves for being gay deep inside and the other 30% are just brainwashed by family, church, media and/or other homophobes.
Let's start selling homoeopathic anti-gay pills ( so the fact that they don't contain any active ingredients is a feature, err, selling point ) - complete with weasel word advertising: people who took them were 100% heterosexual afterwards ( just don't tell anyone they were 100% heterosexual before as well ), add some religious rubbish ( recommended by <insert ravingly homophobe baptist church here> ) and find a cheap source for sugar pills with the right kind of coating ( must look like the real thing though )
Any bet they'd sell like hotcakes

FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
And what about blue-eyedness? If you are offended by someone's blue eyes, should you pluck them out?
And what about people who can count above ten without taking off their shoes? Should they be forbidden from posting to The Lounge?
Not that there is any evidence that any of them ever has.
Originally posted by OnetimePoster:
Left-handedness. What do you feel about it? Is it a blight handed out by God as a punishment for the sins of the fathers?
Is it a wilful aberration chosen by rebellious individuals? Is it curable? Should it be punished? Should it be pitied, ignored? Should firms that make and sell such things as left-handed scissors, left-handed can-openers be prosecuted for aiding and facilitating vice?
Actually us southpaws are His chosen people. There is a vast conspiracy to promote wronghandedness ( 'right'-handedness my arse ).
Originally posted by OnetimePoster:
And what about blue-eyedness? If you are offended by someone's blue eyes, should you pluck them out?
They choose to live in sin, let them deal with the consequences

FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Originally posted by OnetimePoster:
Left-handedness. What do you feel about it?
Kill the righties! (except my wife and perhaps some other people designated relevant by yours truly)
Originally posted by Macallan:
Let's start selling homoeopathic anti-gay pills ( so the fact that they don't contain any active ingredients is a feature, err, selling point ) - complete with weasel word advertising: people who took them were 100% heterosexual afterwards ( just don't tell anyone they were 100% heterosexual before as well ), add some religious rubbish ( recommended by <insert ravingly homophobe baptist church here> ) and find a cheap source for sugar pills with the right kind of coating ( must look like the real thing though )
Any bet they'd sell like hotcakes
Actually this needs a heavy dose of concern trolling - the sole motivation to create these pills was an overwhelming desire to help those unfortunate individuals find a way back to god. They're $20 a pop because of all that expensive research we did ( on scottish single malt whisky but we're not going to mention that in public ) and that's cutting me own throat!
After all, why should only gay bashers rip off gay bashers?

FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Originally posted by rgenerationx:
jusr reply in "yes" or "no"
1. is it cureable?
2. Can a "born hetrosexual" person become "homosexual" later?
Am I being whooshed here!!!
Seriously Ive got absolutely no answer to this. If this is a personal question then I suggest maybe speaking to your doctor. Be WHO you want to be.
Originally posted by buddie994:
Originally posted by rgenerationx:
jusr reply in "yes" or "no"
1. is it cureable?
2. Can a "born hetrosexual" person become "homosexual" later?
Am I being whooshed here!!!
Seriously Ive got absolutely no answer to this. If this is a personal question then I suggest maybe speaking to your doctor. Be WHO you want to be.
LOL, IT'VE GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH ME...... AM JUST ASKING IT AS GENERAL KNOWLODGE.
but,Im more like a normal relationship between men and women.
Originally posted by Sindanie:
Totally disgusting n unhumanly.God created Adam n Eve not Adam n Steve.
I find this statement of yours totally disgusting and 'unhumanly', whatever you mean by that

Does that justify outlawing your kind of religion?
FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Originally posted by Macallan:
Does that justify outlawing your kind of religion?
It may very well already place certain aspects of it outside the law, so if the religion claims to be uncompromising then you could say it already is.

Originally posted by Sindanie:
so does that mean that adam can only have sex with eve? Well who can john have sex with? How about steve? And what if i have sex with myself does that make me gay? I say have sex with whom ever will have it with you.Totally disgusting n unhumanly.God created Adam n Eve not Adam n Steve.
Good grief. Read your Bible and read your history books. According to the date on the bottom of my computer it is 2010. According to your posting it's from some period of time when major religious bodies were re-writing history in order to subjugate those who followed exceptionally flawed doctrine. The Catholic Church, led by a Pope who is homophobic in the extreme has spent centuries bringing sodomy upon all their supplicants. It's one of the perks for signing up!
Every major civilization has had homosexuality at it's center including the British Empire where all the leading lights were possibly gay but in the closet due to the fact that sexuality had been cleaned from the face of the Earth by the Monarch. Men are physically designed to take pleasure from penetration hence the location of the prostate gland.
I suggest that the author get out a little unless he is afraid that he/she will be accosted and made to indulge in un-natural acts.
In many countries such as the UK, your comments may be construed as a Hate Crime so I suggest that perhaps you return to a land and time where you and ostriches will have something in common.
Originally posted by NigelJamesDougan:
this is most unfortunate that those who are well educated and have balanced view points on life concerning matters have chosen this UN-natural method of sex which is condemned in all religions .
Nonsense unless you're one of those incredibly arrogant ( or ignorant, which one is it? ) folks who mean the abrahamic three when they say 'all religions'.
FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Originally posted by e-berlin:
..... About 10% of ALL living creatures are gay, man.
Um... not so in Australia — as far as human beings are concerned:
Number of homosexuals in Australia
Nationwide figure - 1.2% of adults identify as homosexual or lesbian.
* 1.6% of adult men identified as homosexual and 0.8% of women as lesbian.
* 1.4% of women and 0.9% of men said they were bisexual.
— Source: The 2003 'Sex in Australia' study conducted by the Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health & Society (ARCSHS) at La Trobe University. Published in Australian & NZ Journal of Public Health, Vol 27 No 2 2003 ISSN 1326 0200.
I also note that the gay and lesbian lobbies in Australia always promote this mythical "10 per cent" of the population as being homosexual, but at the same time never provide any empirical evidence. Gays and lesbians are enormously overrepresented politically in Australia, and the other 98.8% of the (hetero) population has to put up with overreaching rules and regulations to allow them virtually unrestrained commentary or action on any and all issues they deem necessary for their cause. And I use the word "cause" intentionally, because that's exactly how the gays and lesbians see their situation.
In Australia, we have numerous "Gay Pride" marches and carnivals all over the country all year round. How often do we see a public "Hetero Pride" celebration? Never.
Think about it.
....hanafiboyimpro spoke of looooove!
If we do a reverse to our childhood I think we can say we dabbled with the young girls and young boys. Look on it as an experiment as children do.
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Childhood friends looking to 'find our true destiny'.
I decided I liked the boys bits more than girly bits...hahhahahahhha
You must decide which foot is in which camp is all.
So i guess I believe that homosexuality is NOT a choice. It was either how you grew up or who you associated with WHILE you grew up.
~just an opinion people~
<peace>
Originally posted by black-kisses:
No one can be homosexual as they are born.
And you know that how exactly?
Originally posted by black-kisses:
It's usually a lot of contributing factors that lead to this stage of being confused about your own sex. For example, because a guy grew up without a man in the family and have been surrounded by women growing up, it's very likely that he would grow up in a somewhat feminine tone. This can happen to girls being raised by men too.
Which didn't happen to any homosexual I happen to know, and there are quite a few. Sounds like kitchen psychology to me.
FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Originally posted by Jambolat:
How we can get sons if every one have gay marige
Would you marry a man ( assuming you're one ) if you could? If not what makes you think all other men would? Or even a majority of them?
FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
15. July 2010, 10:04:38 (edited)
19. July 2010, 22:53:27 (edited)
So I guess that I'd say that I really have no objection to homosexuality (in fact, I fully support gay rights, marriage, adoption, etc.), but that I do have an objection to androphilia. And even this objection is not based upon any sort of absolutist conception of sin or anything like that (although I do regard many of the qualities which androphiles typically find attractive in men -- such as dominance -- to be morally dubious insofar as universal human excellencies are concerned), but rather, the fact that I just don't "get" it, and for lack of a better term, it "grosses me out." I guess that I perceive (some) women to be so beautiful that I don't really understand how anyone -- man or woman -- could settle for a sex that never seems to rise to the same level of loveliness, but if anything, trends in the opposite direction. I also just regard femininity as a more agreeable and appealing bundle of attributes for anyone to possess -- regardless of sex.
"...nowhere special, I've always wanted to go there."
Originally posted by e-berlin:
Originally posted by zain9:
this UN-natural method of sex
Unnatural? About 10% of ALL living creatures are gay, man. This is an incomplete list, which may never be able to satisfy certain standards for completion.
P.S. Your first post...? Registered a new account just to express an opinion? That's so sad. Be proud and admit you're also gay.
My two cents worth, homosexuals can't produce children together. That, in itself, is what makes this relationship unnatural. No one questions two people lovinging each other, period, just the sex act part of the relationship.
Another thing, why are people so hung up on this subject? We never have topics/surveys on heterosexuality the way gay folks do, and we don't have heterosexual pride days. Please...this is so annoying!!!
Originally posted by SuperChill:
& i think being black & from niger-ia is a sin before god & man, but hey that`s just me.I think it's a sin before God and man.
"...nowhere special, I've always wanted to go there."
Originally posted by Nevershoutbrittany:
tell me how you really feel about it.No bs.
Eh... It's pretty gay, I think.
But there was always one thing I couldn't stand about homos. Some I knew were always so.... open about it. To the point where it was just a blatant attempt for attention and it was so #@$^ing annoying you'd just wanna slap 'em!
We get it! You are gay, and quite frankly people don't care!
Originally posted by Iapeto:
Originally posted by Nevershoutbrittany:
tell me how you really feel about it.No bs.
Eh... It's pretty gay, I think.![]()
But there was always one thing I couldn't stand about homos. Some I knew were always so.... open about it. To the point where it was just a blatant attempt for attention and it was so #@$^ing annoying you'd just wanna slap 'em!
We get it! You are gay, and quite frankly people don't care!
Not gay... But hates the gay act.
Truly, people. come on.
Originally posted by Iapeto:
Originally posted by Nevershoutbrittany:
tell me how you really feel about it.No bs.
Eh... It's pretty gay, I think.![]()
But there was always one thing I couldn't stand about homos. Some I knew were always so.... open about it. To the point where it was just a blatant attempt for attention and it was so #@$^ing annoying you'd just wanna slap 'em!
We get it! You are gay, and quite frankly people don't care!
Do you find heteros who are blatantly .... open
about it equally annoying?FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Originally posted by tabaqua:
"You're so gay" should not be used as an insult.
People who use it like that are idiots, the insult is the fact that they seem to think you believe it's an insult

FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Originally posted by intothedeep:
My two cents worth, homosexuals can't produce children together. That, in itself, is what makes this relationship unnatural. No one questions two people lovinging each other, period, just the sex act part of the relationship.
Another thing, why are people so hung up on this subject? We never have topics/surveys on heterosexuality the way gay folks do, and we don't have heterosexual pride days. Please...this is so annoying!!!
This is nothing but typical bigot talk/feigning ignorance. In the first paragraph it assumes that anything "natural" is the only way (never mind the fact that anything we do is anything but natural). Second paragraph, well of course you don't have straight parades since STRAIGHTNESS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE NORM. I've also never heard of a case where straight people were prosecuted just because of the fact that they are straight.
17. October 2010, 13:43:29 (edited)
And anyone who would waste time out of their day or their life to rant about how evil or unnatural homosexuality is really needs to look in the mirror and figure out why they care so much in the first place. As many people in this thread can verify, heterosexual people who are comfortable in their sexuality do not really care if other people are homosexual, as it does not bother, threaten, or infuriate them.
What kind of person are you to deny two people who love each other, from being together. They are not harming each other, they are not raping children, robbing banks, brainwashing your children, etc, they are merely following their heart, no differently than any heterosexual person does. And if you do not want other people with different religious views and beliefs forcing their beliefs on you (Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Wiccan, whatever), then why do you think it is ok to force your beliefs on them? Live and let live. Life is so incredibly simple, just follow the golden rule, treat others with the dignity and respect you wish to be treated with, and this world would be a much happier and more enjoyable place. But if you keep letting hate and intolerance fill your heart, are you truly being the person your god wants you to be? I don't recall any commandment about being a bigot or spreading intolerance and hatred among your neighbors, but 'love your neighbor' is there, and I don't see a disclaimer attached to it.
And 10% is a very controversial number, but that doesn't mean it is not accurate, for it could be lower or higher. Human sexuality is not a simple yes/no question. Many people fall somewhere in between. A man is still heterosexual, even if he is attracted to a more masculine woman, and a woman is still heterosexual, even if she prefers to be with a less than macho man. We all have our preferences, and the only thing wrong with that is when we try to deny ourselves happiness by lying about what it is that we prefer, because we are only hurting ourselves. Diversity is the one thing that makes life most interesting, and those who live in fear of it are depriving themselves of a very amazing and enlightening reality, where they can really appreciate and understand the real world for how it is, not how some book says it should be.
Originally posted by Danaloft:
homosexuality is a dreadful sin. no matter what some mad pastors are saying or doing in support of this aberration it is evil, wicked to indulge in it. let those engaged in it repent now.
How exactly do you know if something is evil, an aberration ( from what? ) etc. ?
FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
I feel it in my bones.
It's like eating meat on Friday and writing with your left hand and having the Mass in English and putting pickled cucumbers in hamburgers and any one of the nameless things that Starbucks do to coffee and rap music and stretch denim and Internet Explorer. They are all wrong WRONG WRONG and are obviously so at first sight and any person who can't see that this is so is a person devoid of judgement or insight or any moral sense that should be innate in the human personality.
Originally posted by OnetimePoster:
I just know it's evil.
I feel it in my bones.
It's like eating meat on Friday and writing with your left hand and having the Mass in English and putting pickled cucumbers in hamburgers and any one of the nameless things that Starbucks do to coffee and rap music and stretch denim and Internet Explorer. They are all wrong WRONG WRONG and are obviously so at first sight and any person who can't see that this is so is a person devoid of judgement or insight or any moral sense that should be innate in the human personality.

- Charles F. Kettering
Originally posted by OnetimePoster:
writing with your left hand
Muhahahaha, feel my wrath, for I was writing with my left hand mere minutes ago!
Originally posted by bennydordy:
It hurts the bum
Yours?
FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Originally posted by OnetimePoster:
I just know it's evil.
I feel it in my bones.
It's like eating meat on Friday and writing with your left hand and having the Mass in English and putting pickled cucumbers in hamburgers and any one of the nameless things that Starbucks do to coffee and rap music and stretch denim and Internet Explorer. They are all wrong WRONG WRONG and are obviously so at first sight and any person who can't see that this is so is a person devoid of judgement or insight or any moral sense that should be innate in the human personality.
And bumper stickers and texting and Fox News and airline food and the Palin family and small hairy yapping dogs and the inadequate pockets in any trousers made in China and any American T.V. series whose name consists of nothing but initials. And Coca Cola.
Originally posted by tt92:
Originally posted by OnetimePoster:
I just know it's evil.
I feel it in my bones.
It's like eating meat on Friday and writing with your left hand and having the Mass in English and putting pickled cucumbers in hamburgers and any one of the nameless things that Starbucks do to coffee and rap music and stretch denim and Internet Explorer. They are all wrong WRONG WRONG and are obviously so at first sight and any person who can't see that this is so is a person devoid of judgement or insight or any moral sense that should be innate in the human personality.
And bumper stickers and texting and Fox News and airline food and the Palin family and small hairy yapping dogs and the inadequate pockets in any trousers made in China and any American T.V. series whose name consists of nothing but initials. And Coca Cola.
And cooking programs on T.V.