Are Premarritials Justified?

Are Premarritials Justified?

Tell me what do you people think about it?
>Are premarritials Justified?
>Is it Right to have "SEX" before marrige?

WILL THIS BE CALLED "CHEATING"?

What is this, Saudi Arabia? Come on.

"Right"? It's just plain normal. Who waits for marriage, these days? All that does it incentiveise marrying the first guy/girl that bats their eyelids in your direction, not a recipe for a happy marriage.

Originally posted by parkerjm:

What is this, Saudi Arabia? Come on.

No.... this is India.....

and m asking about ur partner... will u 4give her?

Having other partners before me is not something she needs my forgiveness for.

Originally posted by rgenerationx:

and m asking about ur partner... will u 4give her?

If I forgave anyone it was a rather subconscious process.

Originally posted by rgenerationx:

No.... this is India.....



and m asking about ur partner... will u 4give her?

They will divorce her ass in a couple of years and move on so they don't worry "these days"

Originally posted by Denny77:

They will divorce her ass in a couple of years and move on so they don't worry "these days"

That happens where, as Redem says, "[they marry] the first guy/girl that bats their eyelids in your direction, not a recipe for a happy marriage."

hi i just wanna make a comment i find it very investing one.. Its defend. But all of us know that are old tradistion has been eliminated in this stage. So alot of people in 90% are involve in this kind of stuff specially the young one.. But us i can see love doesn't require this virgin stuff.. But it is indeed more nice and pleasant if you will do it with someone you will stay and love for the rest of your life. Thanks

Sex before marriage is normal these days and not a big deal.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

not a recipe for a happy marriage."

sex before is?? I think not and I have been married 45 years..Sex gets better with age..

If your going to have sex before marriage depending on how many people you have had in the time ,get yourself checked .
And for sex getting better with age depends if the codger can get it up and she is still in fit form to ride him .Other wise its like on split second on and off .
I let you know in 45 years time ,maybe the top poster above can shed some light im facinated what its like to be old and someone still can ride .

Originally posted by rgenerationx:

and m asking about ur partner... will u 4give her?

What is there to forgive her for? "I forgive you for having a life before you met me"?

Originally posted by Frenzie:

If I forgave anyone it was a rather subconscious process.

QFT

actully i read in an article that if we have touched with many girls before marriage, we will not be satisfied with a single girl i.e., our wife and a true relationship will not exist.

then i wonder, How you can find true love in ur life, how can you live without true love?

You shouldn't believe everything that you read.

Originally posted by parkerjm:

What is there to forgive her for? "I forgive you for having a life before you met me"?

lol. got ur opinion. One person above is using words "divorce her ass".

how can u people think about hurting the feelings of someone? When i come to know that somebody is goin to be divorced, i seriously starts crying.

1 person here is saying "i forgive you for ur life before marriage". actully it does not really happens. After meeting ur sex needs, u dumb ur partner and u live happily but ur children and wife have to bear the consequences.

sex before married
it wasnt taught by my family n religion but for those who did, it's fine as l0ng as you can take the consequences for everything you've done

Originally posted by parkerjm:

What is this, Saudi Arabia? Come on.

Originally posted by rgenerationx:

Are Premarritials Justified?

I reckon it's dependent on the particular case of a person.

If they are deeply religious....
If they act religious but aren't....
If they just really don't give a damn...
etc, etc, etc.

Originally posted by rgenerationx:

One person above is using words "divorce her ass".

how can u people think about hurting the feelings of someone? When i come to know that somebody is goin to be divorced, i seriously starts crying.

You do realize that's his (perhaps somewhat unusual) way of poking fun at youngsters?

Originally posted by Juggalo1:

what its like to be old and someone still can ride .

Thankful?

Originally posted by rgenerationx:

"divorce her ass".

This is the thought process these days....not my fault.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

(perhaps somewhat unusual

Thank you Frenzie. Somewhat common now as you know.

Originally posted by Denny77:

Thank you Frenzie. Somewhat common now as you know.

On Wikipedia there's a table (I haven't checked it for accuracy) which you can sort by clicking on the arrow next to crude divorce rate. I wonder why it's so much higher in the US and Belgium than in the Netherlands. I also wonder if we're counting as an Italian non-divorce?

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Originally posted by Denny77:

Thank you Frenzie. Somewhat common now as you know.

On Wikipedia there's a table (I haven't checked it for accuracy) which you can sort by clicking on the arrow next to crude divorce rate. I wonder why it's so much higher in the US and Belgium than in the Netherlands. I also wonder if we're counting as an Italian non-divorce?

I don't know, No good to me. edit: I mean divorce.

"It is most commonly measured in three different ways: the current marriage to current divorce ratio, the crude divorce rate, and the refined divorce rate.[1]" maybe some clue.

Re the OP: I'm 55 years old, and assuming I marry a woman near my own age you can bet she's had someone before me. I'd be surprised if she hadn't. Probably married before, with grown children to boot. She needs me to forgive her for that????? Why????

Marrying a virgin is hardly something I could look forward to these days. She would be way too young, and that would present a host of problems that neither one of us needs. She needs a man near her age, and I need a woman near my age. That means I'll get a woman with a "history", and the woman who goes out with me gets a man with a "history". It goes with living fifty plus years on this planet.

Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

Re the OP: I'm 55 years old, and assuming I marry a woman near my own age you can bet she's had someone before me. I'd be surprised if she hadn't. Probably married before, with grown children to boot.

If she didn't have anyone at that age there's probably a reason for that and you should run while you still can

Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

She needs me to forgive her for that????? Why????

No clue.

Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

Marrying a virgin is hardly something I could look forward to these days. She would be way too young, and that would present a host of problems that neither one of us needs.

Around here people seem to marry way too early anyways and then get divorced in their 20s

Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

She would be way too young

And you would be arrested for pedophilia. 99-1 odds.

Originally posted by rgenerationx:

Are premarritials Justified?

People can find a way to justify anything at all — even paedophilia — it doesn't make it right or skilful behaviour. On the other hand, people can find justification to blame others severely for behaviour that is actually blameless, or at least not very harmful. What others do is their own business — what I do is mine. Why do people need to turn to others to decide what is right for them?

Originally posted by rgenerationx:

Is it Right to have "Sex" before marrige?

Its wiser to wait until after marriage. Its wiser still to abstain from sex altogether. Very few things lead to so much suffering as sexual relationships.

Originally posted by rgenerationx:

Will you forgive your Partner if you come to know that he/she have already lost his/her virginity before Marriage?

This important issue here is fidelity — truthfulness. A marriage that starts off with lies is not likely to be a lasting and happy marriage. If someone cheats after marriage, but is immediately truthful about it, there is still some chance to salvage the relationship. If someone lies before marriage about their previous relationships, then that infidelity breaks the trust. Is it worth continuing a relationship where there is no mutual trust?

Originally posted by Pesala:

Its wiser to wait until after marriage. Its wiser still to abstain from sex altogether. Very few things lead to so much suffering as sexual relationships.

My genes like to live on.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Originally posted by Pesala:

Its wiser to wait until after marriage. Its wiser still to abstain from sex altogether. Very few things lead to so much suffering as sexual relationships.

My genes like to live on.

Mine don't have the mental capacity to give a damn, being mere giant molecules and such

Originally posted by Macallan:

Mine don't have the mental capacity to give a damn, being mere giant molecules and such

I communicate with them using our menorah.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Originally posted by Macallan:

Mine don't have the mental capacity to give a damn, being mere giant molecules and such

I communicate with them using our menorah.

How does a candle holder help with that?

The genes speak to me in the fire. Basically dead skin cells floating around gain some temporary extra energy to manipulate air thanks to the fire.

The bigger question would be, since we forgot all about Chanukah last year, how could I have used the menorah?

Originally posted by Frenzie:

The genes speak to me in the fire. Basically dead skin cells floating around gain some temporary extra energy to manipulate air thanks to the fire.

Now you're drifting into zoroastrian territory

i had sex before marriage. nothin wrong with it.... i had kids after i got married though... still... nothin wrong with it. it's your choice!

jaxx..
eveythg there U choose, just work on it

its ok, every person have his own mentality.

i respect mine, u respect yours.

Originally posted by Macallan:

Originally posted by Frenzie:

The genes speak to me in the fire. Basically dead skin cells floating around gain some temporary extra energy to manipulate air thanks to the fire.

Now you're drifting into zoroastrian territory

Woohoo! *drifts away*

Originally posted by rgenerationx:

Will you forgive your Partner if you come to know that he/she have already lost his/her virginity before Marriage?

What is there to forgive? You should count yourself lucky. Your partner has had some experience and have still chosen you.

Of course there are different traditions and cultures. In a majority of the world sexual experience, particularly among girls, is seen as undesirable, even immoral. I come from a Scandinavian culture where the opposite is true. You are expected to have some experience, at the very least with your partner, before marriage. Inexperience is not an attractive trait. You would have sex before moving in together, if you stay happily together for a couple years you would marry. After being married for a while you would consider having children or maybe a dog. It could be a bias, but on the whole I think we are better off for this.

Actully i belongs from indian background and here these type of things are taken very seriously, thats y i posted this.

If you dont believe in sex before marriage then dont do it, abstinence has its benefits and am all for it. And as for judging your partner by that yardstick is silly.

those all reasons r not invented by me. I read them all in newspapers articles.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Originally posted by Macallan:

Originally posted by Frenzie:

The genes speak to me in the fire. Basically dead skin cells floating around gain some temporary extra energy to manipulate air thanks to the fire.

Now you're drifting into zoroastrian territory

Woohoo! *drifts away*

When you come back from the mountain, try not to say "god is dead" please

Originally posted by Macallan:

When you come back from the mountain, try not to say "god is dead" please

God is alive and Jaybro Almighty is his name!

lol.... where are u people dragging mah topic???

Originally posted by rgenerationx:

lol.... where are u people dragging mah topic???

"Your" topic is getting dragged to the same place that just about every other topic on D&D ends up at, sooner or later. Everything ends up being theological before all is said and done.

Originally posted by Denny77:

sex before is?? I think not and I have been married 45 years..Sex gets better with age..

No, you just forgot how good it was.

Originally posted by Pesala:

Its wiser still to abstain from sex altogether. Very few things lead to so much suffering as sexual relationships.

Jesus, Mary and Buddha. And I thought that the nuns were goofy.

Originally posted by Jaybro:

Jesus, Mary and Buddha. And I thought that the nuns were goofy.

As long as they don't abuse children, I'll say each to their own.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

As long as they don't abuse children, I'll say each to their own.

Well, a few of them whipped my ass more than once. In their defense though, Jesus would have done the same...sort of like with the money lenders. Oh, Prince of Peace, forgive me and the money lenders!

Is the Prince of Peace also the Prince of Persia?

Originally posted by rgenerationx:

lol.... where are u people dragging mah topic???

"mah"? did you mean "my"? You have used a whole unnecessary letter. You could have saved it, found another, and written "you" instead of "u". Is that what you mean when you type "u"? If you wanted us to read it phonetically, perhaps you should have typed "U".
"u" sounds like nothing more than a grunt.

Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

Re the OP: I'm 55 years old, and assuming I marry a woman near my own age you can bet she's had someone before me. I'd be surprised if she hadn't. Probably married before, with grown children to boot. She needs me to forgive her for that????? Why????

Marrying a virgin is hardly something I could look forward to these days. She would be way too young, and that would present a host of problems that neither one of us needs. She needs a man near her age, and I need a woman near my age. That means I'll get a woman with a "history", and the woman who goes out with me gets a man with a "history". It goes with living fifty plus years on this planet.

There is plenty virgins near your age you probably been using your nose in the wrong place .They say you can usually sniff a virgin out .

Originally posted by OnetimePoster:

Originally posted by rgenerationx:

lol.... where are u people dragging mah topic???

"mah"? did you mean "my"? You have used a whole unnecessary letter. You could have saved it, found another, and written "you" instead of "u". Is that what you mean when you type "u"? If you wanted us to read it phonetically, perhaps you should have typed "U".
"u" sounds like nothing more than a grunt.

no. lets all just go and live in fucking caves, bash women over the head and shag them when we want.

these debates are getting worse. but lets not stop there:
if they are found not to be a tight virgin, lets sow her up!!!
spread your shit somewhere else.

Originally posted by TroyMclure:

no. lets all just go and live in fucking caves, bash women over the head and shag them when we want.

these debates are getting worse. but lets not stop there:
if they are found not to be a tight virgin, lets sow her up!!!
spread your shit somewhere else.

YOU ARE DISCUSTING are you stupid or what even if the debates are stupid for you to write that your attitude of a woman or to percieve a woman in the end is along these lines anyway .sounds to me as you think i am stupid anyway and thick ,i think your mental frustrated codger i seek help if i was you .So bad to write that .
You could have refrained f rom some words you have used .

Originally posted by TroyMclure:

no. lets all just go and live in fucking caves,

A different cave for every purpose?

Originally posted by OnetimePoster:

Originally posted by rgenerationx:

lol.... where are u people dragging mah topic???

"mah"? did you mean "my"? You have used a whole unnecessary letter. You could have saved it, found another, and written "you" instead of "u". Is that what you mean when you type "u"? If you wanted us to read it phonetically, perhaps you should have typed "U".
"u" sounds like nothing more than a grunt.

RoFl LoL

respect each other.. that's what i love from myopera

common guy's adult teenager at this stage doesn't care they feel wanna do it they will. But still in any angle we see it still wrong.

There'd be no forgiveness from me.

If someone couldn't wait for me to come along then they aren't worth being with.

Can you imagine spending a night in the same bed as someone before you've committed to spending the rest of your life with them? That's just crazy. Ought anyone get intimate with more than one person ever? I don't think so. You wait until you find someone, you marry them and THEN you get physically close; safe in the knowledge that neither you, nor they, will ever have been (and will never be) that intimate with anyone else. I certainly couldn't stay with anyone if I thought they had been touched by another, loved another, had someone to compare me to, might consider leaving me for another without having to justify their betrayal to a court of law.

YOU ARE DISCUSTING are you stupid or what even if the debates are stupid for you to write that your attitude of a woman or to percieve a woman in the end is along these lines anyway .sounds to me as you think i am stupid anyway and thick ,i think your mental frustrated codger i seek help if i was you .So bad to write that . You could have refrained f rom some words you have used .

I don't understand what you have written above. At all.
This debate thread belongs in a forum 2000 years previously, or from a very different culture to the one in the UK.

These attitudes are completely alien to me and most of my fellow Britains.

Sadly it is cheating...because if you have sex with someone, you give a piece of yourself away every time you do it with another and another, imagine finally getting married and not feeling the satisfaction because you have done it with everybody or lost your virginity.

I wonder why people don't think its more satisfying to wait til' marriage.

Edit:Darn, I missread the poll question, I would actually would forgive my husband, just as long he does not endup like Jason X.

I can't imagine only ever having sex with one person. That person being the one you are spending the rest of your life with. I think I would be curious as to what it would be like to 'do it' with someone else. Also, if my partner had not had sex with someone else i would worry that they were curious as well.

You don't give a piece of yourself away every time you have sex. How is that possible? That sounds like something from a cliched love song, or an essay from a 10 year old.

Strangely enough (and this won't be a popular comment), I find conversation with people who have been with the same partner since they were both young quite limited. People get locked in a bubble. I met a guy at work who had been with his GF since they were both 18. He's 30 and he speaks and acts like a kid. This is not uncommon. To be in several 'serious' relationships is part of growing up. To experience a lot in life is what in the end will round you off as a person. Relationships,love and heartbreak being part of that.
If people are happy to live in a bubble then thats fine, but interaction with everyone they meet won't always be easy.

Originally posted by TroyMclure:

You don't give a piece of yourself away every time you have sex. How is that possible?

Just think of what happens when you masturbate. You're inflating like a balloon!

By this time next year I could resemble the above. This is a worry.

Originally posted by TroyMclure:

I can't imagine only ever having sex with one person. That person being the one you are spending the rest of your life with. I think I would be curious as to what it would be like to 'do it' with someone else. Also, if my partner had not had sex with someone else i would worry that they were curious as well.

You don't give a piece of yourself away every time you have sex. How is that possible? That sounds like something from a cliched love song, or an essay from a 10 year old.

Strangely enough (and this won't be a popular comment), I find conversation with people who have been with the same partner since they were both young quite limited. People get locked in a bubble. I met a guy at work who had been with his GF since they were both 18. He's 30 and he speaks and acts like a kid. This is not uncommon. To be in several 'serious' relationships is part of growing up. To experience a lot in life is what in the end will round you off as a person. Relationships,love and heartbreak being part of that.
If people are happy to live in a bubble then thats fine, but interaction with everyone they meet won't always be easy.

Sometimes how old a person acts depends on how many friends you have, I'll take Jason X as a example, he's a tad immature, he thinks marriage is not a commitment, he's married and has sex at work with married woman and interns who probably underaged......Does that sound adult to you?

Of coarse you give part of yourself away, with every new person you do it with, you give away part of your inner self, part of your heart.

Originally posted by TroyMclure:

By this time next year I could resemble the above. This is a worry.

You'll also go blind

Originally posted by RekaG:

...imagine finally getting married and not feeling the satisfaction because you have done it with everybody or lost your virginity.

I wonder why people don't think its more satisfying to wait til' marriage.

Absolutely. Because once you've lost your virginity there's just no point in getting married. Marriage will only be a disappointment. "Yay. We're married!" you'll say, "....but what's changed? Apart from the ceremony and the registrar, we're no different. We've already slept together and co-habited and everything." and soon you will realise that you should have either saved yourself or stayed unmarried.
Or maybe you haven't gone that far with this particular partner, you went with someone when you were 17, but that was 5 years ago and you've been holding out on your fiancé so you've got something to look forward to. Well tough: You've tasted the forbidden fruit and there's no going back to the Eden of ignorance. All you can do now is live an unfulfilled life. You must stay unmarried. You could have relationships and sex with other people, but remember - that's unsatisfying now. Widows and widowers too - death may have parted you from your spouse but I hope you stocked up on friends and family before that because there'll be no remarriage for you.

I think someone had sex for all the wrong reasons and regrets it.

Yeah, i'm confused by all of this now. My brain hurts!!

why we make big issue abt small piece of tissue called hymen