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Official news from Opera that desktop browser will be discontinued
As you are most likely aware as an Opera user, it seems like it's becoming very clear that Opera will officially discontinue the desktop browser soon. The reasons are plain as day:- As you can see from the forums and your own use, the quality of Opera (browser) has significantly deteriorated. It seems the developers have stopped putting the same quality of work into the browser.
- We are getting unfortunately buggy release after buggy release as opposed to the high quality we used to expect from Opera. Definitely seems like the UI update was a last hurrah for a once usable application.
- Probably most obvious is that Opera has shown 0% interest in their own desktop browser. They barely put any money into marketing, and they don't show any concern that they have less than 1% market in every country but Russia. A twitter account and occasional convention visit is all we have seen in terms of self support.
- The second most obvious thing is that Opera is a for profit company and gains nothing from the desktop browser. It used to be a paid only browser which made sense, but now it is very confusingly free but also closed source. It seems like even Opera Software company isn't clear what to do with this buggy headless chicken.
- Opera is very clearly putting all of its development time into the mobile browsers since that is a profitale endeavor. And that makes sense! It doesn't make any sense for them to peddle a free browser, and it's clear they feel the same way from how few resources they have channeled into the recent releases.
- Opera has shown no interest in developer relations which has been a huge pitfall. We don't get Silverlight. And Opera continues to be snickered at in the development world for being closed source and yet so buggy. A normal developer can happily submit a patch to Mozilla when they find a bug. A dev using Opera can use the OperaBlackHole (bug report form), but what's the point when each release has been less stable than the last?
I personally will find it a bittersweet relief when the desktop team officially announces the end of the desktop browser. It will be sad to lose something many of have used for many years and downgrade to stable versions, but it will be glorious to finally hear from the company that they admit this has gone on long enough, and both the users and the company are suffering from it.
George
Originally posted by Grobbert:
it seems like it's becoming very clear that Opera will officially discontinue the desktop browser soon
Nope. They have made it clear that it won't ever go away.
As you can see from the forums and your own use, the quality of Opera (browser) has significantly deteriorated.
This is demonstrably false. The same whining happens with every single new version.
Probably most obvious is that Opera has shown 0% interest in their own desktop browser. They barely put any money into marketing, and they don't show any concern that they have less than 1% market in every country but Russia. A twitter account and occasional convention visit is all we have seen in terms of self support.
Wrong.
They have an entire team of people working actively on it. The Mac version just had a major rewrite, and the Linux version an even bigger rewrite.
They also do plenty of marketing, although you are obviously too ignorant and lazy to know about it.
The market share is actually about 3-5% globally, and 5-10% in Europe.
The second most obvious thing is that Opera is a for profit company and gains nothing from the desktop browser.
Wrong. More than 1/3 of Opera's total revenue is from the desktop browser because of the search deal with Google. Opera makes good money from the desktop browser, so even there you are completely wrong.
It seems like even Opera Software company isn't clear what to do with this buggy headless chicken.
They know what to do, all right. They make money from every user, so more users = more revenue.
Opera has shown no interest in developer relations
This is of course another blatant lie.
A normal developer can happily submit a patch to Mozilla when they find a bug.
No he can't. Mozilla will almost automatically reject it. Only Mozilla employees and very few others are allowed to submit patches.
Opera Software have stated exactly that "we do not want any negative criticism of 10.5".
Yet another blatant lie.
You clearly have put a lot of effort into it, but unfortunately no facts.
Well done.
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Apparently Chrome is really fast with its development not to forget its extensions. The extensions App Store is one kick-ass function that might just start to even increase more users to migrate to Chrome.
it may not come useful to date but it will be sure(in the near future)
do tell me...is there a browser that offers the same as unite,turbo and link?besides opera
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Originally posted by Grobbert:
it seems like it's becoming very clear that Opera will officially discontinue the desktop browser soon.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
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24. May 2010, 17:28:16 (edited)
(please read the whole article, not just the title)
Edit: fixed the link.
Originally posted by yongshun:
I think Opera's position is at danger again, considering how slow development or innovations are coming from the Desktop browser.
Opera slow development? That is obviously complete and utter BS. Opera just reinvented their damn browser! Hell, Vega and Carakan and all that stuff is faster without hardware acceleration than other browsers are with it!
Apparently Chrome is really fast with its development
Just because they constantly add a major new version number doesn't mean that the development is fast. And if it was, so what? Who cares? Fast development means NOTHING. What Chrome has going for it is Google's online ad monopol.
The extensions App Store is one kick-ass function that might just start to even increase more users to migrate to Chrome.
Oh, right. So when Google does it, it's AMAZING, but when Firefox and Opera were already doing it, it was just crap?
Laughable.
24. May 2010, 16:04:58 (edited)
Originally posted by spadija:
Here's a blast from the not-so-distant past:
The link is broken:
Try this one
For those who are too lazy to read the whole article:
Originally posted by haavard:
Opera will not abandon its desktop browser. It does not make financial sense to do so. Furthermore, the desktop version cements Opera's unique cross-platform position. It is of strategic importance to the company.
And let's not forget the community. All of you out there. You are mainly desktop users, and you are putting our technologies to wide use and providing us with invaluable feedback, and you help us make Opera better.
The reason I'm writing this is that I keep reading comments about why we keep our desktop browser alive.
Surely we could just ditch it and focus on the areas where we make the most money, right?
Wrong!
Opera will not abandon its desktop browser. It's just not going to happen. Please stop asking if it is going to happen
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