HTML 5 Video

HTML 5 Video

Just wondering if html 5 video works on Opera Mini ?

No way, not html anyway because a 'player' is needed as interpreter.

Damn, guess I'll have to use Bolt

Bolt browser 2.1 supports full HTML5 http://www.html5trends.com/browsers/new-version-of-bolt-browser-fully-supports-html5-video/

Originally posted by parmindermangat:

Bolt browser 2.1 supports full HTML5

In your dreams and beside that HTML 5 is 'under construction'

Originally posted by parmindermangat:

Bolt browser 2.1 supports full HTML5

Nope. It might support a tiny subset. And that link talks about a crappy test that doesn't even test HTML5 properly. It claims that stuff like H264 and Geolocation is part of HTML5, which is just a lie.

And actually, Bolt doesn't support HTML5 video. It converts some videos to a crappy compressed format.

I suppose in case of Opera Mini and Bolt the http://html5test.com/ only tests the browser running on their server. Thus the browser on proxy server can get high scores but it really does not mean you get it on client side.

For example, if J2ME browser (e.g. Bolt if I have understood correctly) converts the flash video into format supported by the phone, it runs the conversion software on the server. Thus the http://html5test.com/ test tells you what is done on the server side. Since Opera Mini does not even try to convert anything on their server, it does not need Flash player on Opera Mini server. Therefore the test gives something like 0/30 for video support.

Originally posted by serola:

I suppose in case of Opera Mini and Bolt the http://html5test.com/ only tests the browser running on their server. Thus the browser on proxy server can get high scores but it really does not mean you get it on client side.

For example, if J2ME browser (e.g. Bolt if I have understood correctly) converts the flash video into format supported by the phone, it runs the conversion software on the server. Thus the http://html5test.com/ test tells you what is done on the server side. Since Opera Mini does not even try to convert anything on their server, it does not need Flash player on Opera Mini server. Therefore the test gives something like 0/30 for video support.

Very true. But that's the whole idea behind browsers like bolt and opera mini, convert stuff to a format that can viewed on mobiles at a fraction of the cost. So if html5 content can be viewed on a mobile thanks to server side reformatting and compression, that means it's supported but ya ya technically speaking it ain't.

The tiny bitter part is, users, ignorant users, i must say.. (like me) don't really care where and how and what things are processed so and so, to bring video in my browser. All they'd give importance to.. is that ''yay! There's a flash player in my phone browser" for Bolt users and "oops..no player yet.." for us- opera users..and we won't wanna take just a single feature missing to delete our opera mini cause opera's already in our blood..

Originally posted by insyt:

So if html5 content can be viewed on a mobile thanks to server side reformatting and compression

Except it can't. Transcoding video and nothing else does not equal "HTML5". HTML5 means interactive, scriptable, real-time video. Let me see how much interaction and scripting you can do with a proxy browser showing videos...

Never mind the fact that the video quality in Bolt is absolutely horrifically bad.

Let's be honest, what matters to the average end-user is the functionality in the browser.
We all know how BOLT does it, why it is not real HTML5, why Opera Mini doesn't do it and all that. But in real world, these are of little or no relevance to the end user. And to them, some video is always better than no video at all.
Again, HTML5 is still under-construction and of course, OM might have built a viewing system. Of course, Opera was one of the influences in bringing <video> to HTML.

Originally posted by serola:

Thus the http://html5test.com/ test tells you what is done on the server side.

beta.html5test.com is interesting also. However Bolt dont have a mobile ua and a test drive on scribd.com shows that the full html5 support=0.

Originally posted by miyuru:

Of course, Opera was one of the influences in bringing

Opera came up with HTML5 video. And HTML5 for that matter.