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27. May 2010, 12:08:30

zzissou

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Find in Page bug (Opera 10.53)

Hi everyone,

when I search for a word that is OBVIOUSLY on the page, my 'find in page' tells me it didn't find anything.
I've checked it on several sites, but 'find in page' doesn't work in any of them, making this option absolutely useless.

I reinstalled my Opera, but the bug is still there.

Anyone?
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27. May 2010, 12:18:03

Pesala

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It works just fine here.

This is the page that you searched.

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27. May 2010, 12:24:04

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works fine also
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27. May 2010, 12:24:06

zzissou

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I tried the find in page option on several sites. From BBC, to EW, google results, forums etc. I always get that damn "there are no results" message, even if I type in a single letter.
As you can see, in the attached pic, I typed in VANESSA and despite seeing 3 mentions of it in the text, my search results showed 0.
It's been on like that for weeks. I hoped it would miraculously repair itself after a restart/reinstall but it's still there :/

27. May 2010, 12:27:59

Pesala

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See Preferences, Search, Find in page, Edit, Details. Perhaps you have modified something? Reinstalling won't change anything if your search.ini is messed up. Opera remembers user settings on upgrading, otherwise you would lose any customised searches.
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27. May 2010, 12:30:24

zzissou

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no changes were made, everything is ok in preferences.
thanks anyway, i guess i'll just have to go back to using older opera sad

27. June 2010, 12:45:47

case42

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Originally posted by zzissou:

Hi everyone,

when I search for a word that is OBVIOUSLY on the page, my 'find in page' tells me it didn't find anything.
I've checked it on several sites, but 'find in page' doesn't work in any of them, making this option absolutely useless.


Actually, I've been having the same problem in some instances. After playing around a bit, I noticed that the Find in page bar behaved differently when called with CTRL-f as opposed to / .
Despite looking exactly the same, it often would not find any results in the first case, but it seemed to work correctly using / .

I went into Preferences -> Shortcuts -> Keyboard setup and noticed that the action configured for CTRL-f was FInd (with a small magnifying glass next to it), while / was set to Find Inline, 1. I changed CTRL-f to Find Inline, 1 as well, and now it appears to always find all occurences of the string in question.

27. June 2010, 12:53:09

Pesala

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It makes no difference here, whether I use Ctrl f (find) or "/" (Find Inline, 1) on the page where the problem was reported — both work OK for me. If you have another link to a page where "find" does not work, please provide it.
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27. June 2010, 14:07:43

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works ok here, can NOT confirm (10.60b winXPsp3)
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9. August 2010, 11:36:07

YMS2010

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I noticed the same problem today with 10.60.
Ctrl+F did not find any occurrences of the searched text that were not linked.

Anyway, case42's solution fixed it.

11. February 2011, 09:00:16

Merijn

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Had the same problem in latest Opera 11.01, Google pointed me to this page.

case42's solution fixed the problem. 'Find' is broken, 'Find inline' is not. For some reason, 'Find' does not find terms over 3 characters in length.

11. February 2011, 11:50:04

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I am unable to reproduce any of these problems here using Opera 11.01
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5. April 2011, 18:37:48

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Originally posted by gdveggie:

And it appears that maybe the search works properly for any word that appears in hyperlinks (e.g., all the user names I tried and several words that appear in other hyperlinks on the page).


This would indicate that you used find in links (shortcut comma or shift /), not find in page (period or /). The shortcuts are right next to each other on the keyboard so its easy to hit the wrong one, but Ctrl F does not suffer from this problem.
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6. April 2011, 04:29:23

Pesala

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Find in page
Shortcut = Ctrl F
Command = Find
Action = Open the Find in page toolbar until the user closes it with Escape.
This command used to open a dialogue box

Find Text
Shortcuts = . or /
Command = Find Inline, 1
Action = Open the find in page toolbar for 3 seconds and find the typed text
This command used to open a popup

Find in Links
Shortcuts = , or ? (shift /)
Command = Find Inline, 2
Action = Open the find in page toolbar for 3 seconds and find the type text within links
This command used to open a popup

I suspect that the duplication of shortcuts is to support legacy shortcuts when adding new ones.
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27. January 2012, 08:34:48

gdveggie

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Yes, this is very strange. Just started happening for me (yesterday ?) with Op11.01 (and maybe I should start a new thread since it's with Opera 11.01). With Ctrl+F, I can successfully search for some words on a webpage, and not others.

For example on this Find in Page bug (Opera 10.53) forum page where I am now posting, I can search for Case42, but as soon as I type fi (for find), the search field turns red.

Same problem with "when", "pla" (playing), "di" (did), "zziso" (zzisou), "10." (10.53), "obv" (obviously), "con" (confirm), "ever" (everyone --- but "eve" finds "Developers).

Yet I can type (in no particular order) "operabug", "pesala", "Javascripts", "august", "quote", "merijn", "sheduler" [sic], "widget", "reviews",and "bleicher" and get the expected results.

I'm getting too tired to think right now, but it obviously is not triggered by a certain number of letters (although most commonly the 3rd letter will be the one the search fails on).

And it appears that maybe the search works properly for any word that appears in hyperlinks (e.g., all the user names I tried and several words that appear in other hyperlinks on the page).

I haven't dinked around yet much with the "/" option, but it worked on several of the words that failed above with Ctrl+F, but not all (e.g., "zzissou" still failed... ...but a couple minutes later "zzissou" worked!!!). Then after that, some of the words worked with Ctrl+F that didn't before (e.g., "find"). VERY STRANGE!!!

Gettin' too tired to test further... ...I'll try to devise a more thorough and hopefully repeatable test tomorrow when I can think straight.

FWIW, I haven't changed any settings, and I think it's extremely unlikely that I've got some malware that might be affecting this. But I haven't yet applied the Patch Tuesday MS updates.

More tomorrow (if I have more to contribute p )

27. January 2012, 08:34:48

gdveggie

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Yeah, I haven't made it to bed yet, so I'll report back that right now I'm also unable to reproduce. rolleyes

I was trying to think what could account for it earlier, and the only thing I can imagine is that I'm on this marginal 733 MHz P-III system with only 512 MB RAM (my main machine is down with a dead mobo)... ...and maybe when I get close to maxing it out, the search function gets compromised somehow.

What's odd is that I haven't even closed any tabs since my previous post (well, maybe 1 or 2; not sure), which I often have to do when Opera starts bogging down (which it wasn't at the time, but I know I wasn't far below the ceiling). Yet now it seems to work properly.

However, it was no figment of my imagination, and has occurred at other times in the past couple days. So if I get any clearer idea what's going on, I'll report back.

27. January 2012, 08:34:48

gdveggie

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Originally posted by Pesala:

This would indicate that you used find in links (shortcut comma or shift /), not find in page (period or /). The shortcuts are right next to each other on the keyboard so its easy to hit the wrong one, but Ctrl F does not suffer from this problem.


If I did, I didn't know it because all I ever use is Ctrl+F. I didn't even know about the / shortcut until I originally read this thread, and I've used it maybe twice since. And I never knew the period shortcut or the option to Find in Links (comma shortcut or shift /) until now.

But one possibility is that I might have already had the Find bar/field open via Ctrl+F and hit the comma without realizing it (probably not shift /), and thus activated the Find in Links .

Is there a difference between the period and the / shortcuts? If not, why the redundancy?

And I thought I had once figured out the difference between Find in Page (Ctrl+F) and Find Inline (/) (terminology from earlier in this thread), but I can't remember what it was, and now I don't seem to even have any adjustable settings for those (mentioned earlier in this thread) in Preferences > Search or Preferences > Advanced > Shortcuts. The only difference I notice now is that the Find bar/field opens and stays open with Ctrl+F, but closes after a few seconds with / (or the period).

So is there a difference between Find in Page (Ctrl+F) and Find Inline (/), or is Find Inline even a valid term anymore?

27. January 2012, 08:34:48

gdveggie

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Thanks, Pesala! smile

A couple of brief follow-up questions:

(1) Is that info all summarized along with other shortcuts somewhere? Your Shortcut =, Command =, Action= format seems vaguely familiar, but maybe it's just because you laid it out so nicely.

(2) Are you making a distinction between a dialogue box (Ctrl+F) and a popup (Find Text or Find in Links)? I still use Opera 9.27 for some purposes, so I know what you mean by the Ctrl+F dialogue box.

(3) So it seems like now the only difference between the Find in Page and Find Text functionality is the Find in page toolbar stays open vs opens for 3 seconds. Correct?

9. February 2012, 22:30:41 (edited)

Pesala

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DSK-298032 Find in page (Ctrl+F) uses last used Find inline type

This was fixed by not using the last inline find type (not by adding an option to the find toolbar).

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Originally posted by gdveggie:

So is there a difference between Find in Page (Ctrl+F) and Find Inline (/), or is Find Inline even a valid term anymore?


Yes, they're different commands. Find inline, 1 or 2 shows the toolbar only for 3 seconds, Find show toolbar until the user closes it. Find inline used to show a popup before we had the toolbar and still had the Find in Page Dialogue.
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