Opera 10.60 Alpha released

Opera 10.60 Alpha released

Enjoy ;-)

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2010/05/31/opera-10-60-alpha-1

Thanks

real faster than chrome 6(eventhough my system not that great but still scores high)..

10.60.jpg

rendering
complex graphics
text parsing are all in 11K+points

the rest in 5000+

Thanks for finally fixing the freeze on editing of Posterous posts!

Great news after a long wait
Let''s hope for an option to go back to the old menu bar though.

A little joke

Great little joke !! Avola !!

Bugggg http://www.neogaf.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2

Should be like this http://i.imgur.com/36wlL.jpg

But its shows up as this http://i.imgur.com/rcYeE.jpg

Fix please. Its fine in the previous builds. Issue seems to be with this css line ".forum-tabs li { float: left; margin: 0 0 0 5px; padding: 0; display: block; min-height: 18px; }"

I'm quite happy with this build for now. I see improvements in speed as well in the GUI - that previous misconception in the Speed Dial is fixed and it now looks amazing. A little more on the GUI, here are my thoughts on the new menu button. Apart from that, a few 'leftover' bugs.

• Ctrl + click on an image to save it. Then change the name in the dialog window, but without typing an extension. That produces an extensionless file.
  http://s3.postimage.org/ayszr-e417a60e6fff01043f62031043c12ab7.png
  http://s3.postimage.org/ayxyJ-e417a60e6fff01043f62031043c12ab7.png
  Look at the shots. If I click 'Save' in the first case, everything is okay. But if go on the second way, I have to add the extension myself. Reported as DSK-300193.
• I've got a problem with some of the context menus - when I add an icon to a menu entry, it stops working.
  E.g. under [Speed Dial Thumbnail Popup Menu],

  Item, "Reload" = Reload thumbnail

  works, but

  Item, "Reload" = Reload thumbnail,,,,"Reload"

  does not. Same for the rest of the entries under the same section. Can someone confirm?
• You all know how images are rendered in Opera - from top to bottom. Larger ones (e.g. wallpapers) seem to stop rendering sometimes at about 10%, other times at about 50. It continues the download (as seen from the progress bar), but the whole image is drawn only after it's fully loaded. This seems to happen both when I open an image in a separate tab and when I view it on a page (e.g. deviantArt).
• Some issues with autocomplete - sometimes I have to type 3-4 characters of a bookmark's name for it to show up - in such case, only the address would appear, but not the title. Another point - typing 'config', 'debug', 'cache' does not show Opera's 'internal' pages like I think it should.
• The search field does not remember its size. I can resize it, but when I close the current tab, it gets back to its default width. It is somehow related to the screen resolution and to the panels.
• I sometimes happen to get 'Could not locate remote server' on a first load of a page. Hitting reload fixes it, but it's a bit annoying.

colors in speed-dial are looking much stronger - or is it just me?

speedimprovements are cool - 1664 on 10.60alpha vs. 1349 on 10.53 vs. 241 on IE6.0 - should be noticeable

On Linux version of opera.com they still say 10.5x available shortly.

lightning fast and smooth on ubuntu 10.04.
Opera rocks

Originally posted by supertrol:

real faster than chrome 6(eventhough my system not that great but still scores high)..

10.60.jpg

rendering
complex graphics
text parsing are all in 11K+points

the rest in 5000+

Not just this latest snapshot. On my system opera has always been faster than all other browers.

Originally posted by Avola:

Great news after a long wait
Let''s hope for an option to go back to the old menu bar though.

A little joke

aha that was funny ****.

Improperly functioning WISIWYG editor (BBCode) at the forum www.svethardware.cz:

Previously: 01.png -> 02.png -> 03.png
Now: 01.png -> 02.png -> 04.png

Opera 10.60.6344, Kubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx (x86_64, 2.6.32-22-generic)

Blisteringly fast. Truely the fastest browser on the planet, even the Chrome nightlies don't even come close (~20% short)

Not bad for an early release.

Originally posted by Squirt:

Bugggg http://www.neogaf.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2

Should be like this http://i.imgur.com/36wlL.jpg

But its shows up as this http://i.imgur.com/rcYeE.jpg

Fix please. Its fine in the previous builds. Issue seems to be with this css line ".forum-tabs li { float: left; margin: 0 0 0 5px; padding: 0; display: block; min-height: 18px; }"

Works fine for me as a visitor, not as logged user (I don't have an account)

To change the Opera menu's text, open up en.lng in Opera\locale\en and search for 606160820. Leave it blank between the quotes where it says "menu" to remove the text entirely, leaving the button a little less wide. Credits to rm20010 from neowin, and Satan D. Lucifer from the desktop team blog.

the word "menu" it should truly be optional - and removable in the context menu :-)

Originally posted by Avola:

To change the Opera menu's text, open up en.lng in Opera\locale\en and search for 606160820. Leave it blank between the quotes where it says "menu" to remove the text entirely, leaving the button a little less wide. Credits to rm20010 from neowin, and Satan D. Lucifer from the desktop team blog.

Perfect!!
Thx!

Originally posted by Zalex108:

Originally posted by Squirt:

Bugggg http://www.neogaf.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2

Should be like this http://i.imgur.com/36wlL.jpg

But its shows up as this http://i.imgur.com/rcYeE.jpg

Fix please. Its fine in the previous builds. Issue seems to be with this css line ".forum-tabs li { float: left; margin: 0 0 0 5px; padding: 0; display: block; min-height: 18px; }"

Works fine for me as a visitor, not as logged user (I don't have an account)

On a clean install the site is still not being displayed correctly.

And another bug http://www.titantv.com/

Tables are stretched too much http://i.imgur.com/k26nF.jpg

I have been using 10.53 for a while now and experiencing an intermittent crash. Otherwise I would have waited before upgrading to 10.60

I am pleased to report a performance increase with 10.60, the crash I did have will take time to sort out.

Keep up the good work

A good release, but I've come across some problems that are being a little annoying.

Opera still fails to maximise/gain focus when a link is clicked in an external app and opened in Opera. You have to maximise it manually.

The X button on windowed tabs is misaligned on a lot of skins. You have to move the cursor to the left of the button to click it.

If placed in another position on Opera, the menu button cannot then be removed without resetting the toolbar it was placed on. The original O menu button can't be removed at all. This doesn't really bother me, but seeing as the button can be found in the Buttons submenu of the Appearance menu, it makes sense to have it usable.

"Scroll Is Pan" is still the worst touch scrolling implementation on any browser. Bar none.

Double clicking an empty spot on the tab bar should open a new tab, but it's unpredictable at best.

Pages still need to be focused with a click in order to catch subsequent clicks.

Loading a large picture halts at 10% until it's all loaded.

Possibly related to the aforementioned table bug?

Opera 10.60a build 6344, Debian Testing 32-bit.

http://www.lordofultima.com/en/forum/index.php looks like (attachment)
opera10.60table.png

Still some annoying bugs hanging on from the early days of 10.5 (the floating panel, background tab ordering, MDI tab positioning, etc.), but the fixes and improvements are very welcome.

Originally posted by D1sasterp1ece:

[*]You all know how images are rendered in Opera - from top to bottom. Larger ones (e.g. wallpapers) seem to stop rendering sometimes at about 10%, other times at about 50. It continues the download (as seen from the progress bar), but the whole image is drawn only after it's fully loaded. This seems to happen both when I open an image in a separate tab and when I view it on a page (e.g. deviantArt).

The significance of this is profound in relation to the actual speed of rl browsing.

It is the one thing I am really disappointed by in Opera.

thanks for the work
but it is a still 100% cpu bug
i already killed operaprefs, looked to TLS - nothing. after a little time opera process became 100% on one cpu core.

btw
if i temprorary rename my mail folder (2 gmail accounts + 6-7 rss) there is no 100% probem

Scrolling does not function on my Dell E1505 running Windows 7. Not sure why as I downloaded 10.10, 10.53 and 10.6 today and only had a problem with 10.6.

AOL mail unusable - all folders (starting with the Inbox) can't be opened.

had no problem with previous versions up to 10.5 but now with 10.6 I can't go to my inbox on youtube without Opera freezing. Anyone else experienced that? Using Windows 7.

Originally posted by supertrol:

real faster than chrome 6

Chrome 6? Good Bob, what warrants all these version increases? Will they slow down with the number craziness once they reach version 10?

Anyhow, great!

Major problems. Had to revert to 10.54

Confirm table error with http://www.titantv.com/ Also, never completes page, especially top.

Anything with Flash is a crap shoot. Most drive CPU to 100% and lockup; much worse than 10.54.

Originally posted by Avola:

To change the Opera menu's text, open up en.lng in Opera\locale\en and search for 606160820. Leave it blank between the quotes where it says "menu" to remove the text entirely, leaving the button a little less wide. Credits to rm20010 from neowin, and Satan D. Lucifer from the desktop team blog.

Doesn't work. I have changed it, saved and restarted Opera.

Originally posted by yourpassenger:

Doesn't work. I have changed it, saved and restarted Opera.

You might need to put a space between the quotes. You should also probably close Opera before saving.

Second serious problem for me - the back and front buttons (wherever from: mouse, right click or address bar) don't work on some pages.

Originally posted by Squirt:

Bugggg http://www.neogaf.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2



Should be like this http://i.imgur.com/36wlL.jpg



But its shows up as this http://i.imgur.com/rcYeE.jpg



Fix please. Its fine in the previous builds. Issue seems to be with this css line ".forum-tabs li { float: left; margin: 0 0 0 5px; padding: 0; display: block; min-height: 18px; }"

The Wii's Internet Channel has that problem, and that was based on updated 9.2 code. Not sure how they relate, but just throwing that out there.

Opera Voice doesn't work. At all. Doesn't even install files.

Originally posted by Jakeeeee:

Opera Voice doesn't work. At all. Doesn't even install files.

Yeah, just tried to install voice (as I don't usually use it) and the dialog says 'Download failed'. Another feature that does not work is the scroll marker, by the way.

Problems for me. I am getting this message for every site I am trying to visit. This is on linux. (64 bit)
Not sure what the heck is it.

Could not locate remote server

The complete message is as follows.

Could not locate remote server

You tried to access the address http://www.rediff.com/, which is currently unavailable. Please make sure that the Web address (URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the page.
Make sure your Internet connection is active and check whether other applications that rely on the same connection are working.
Check that the setup of any Internet security software is correct and does not interfere with ordinary Web browsing.
If you are behind a firewall on a Local Area Network and think this may be causing problems, talk to your systems administrator.
Try pressing the F12 key on your keyboard and disabling proxy servers, unless you know that you are required to use a proxy to connect to the Internet. Reload the page.
Need help?
Open the Opera Help.
Go to Opera's online support desk.

Found out that chrome integration drag area is set to 20 by default.

When not maximized, I can't move the next tab to the first tab.

For example this: SnapShot.png

Move the second tab to exchange position on the first one, you can't move it the "O" Menu is blocking it. You need to drag the tab out of the tab bar and place it at the left of the first tab on the left.

using - Win7 Ultimate 64bit
issue:
1a - when hovering over Opera tab at the task-bar, the transparent aero menu with all the tabs wont pop up - it will show only one (active) page
1b - the icon on the task-bar itself will not show up as a multi-window icon (wont have the shadows on the right)
link

P.S. Win7 build 7600

Hi all, download link for the alpha build is removed

nope - isnt, just checked

Originally posted by bleicher:

nope - isnt, just checked

It's back now. About 2 hours ago, it was down. Thanks

Another bug? http://www.ifitwasmyhome.com/ Oil spill isn't displayed on the map.

Sounds like lots is happening, great to hear we've got the speed crown back. I agree with most here about the 'O' menu button - good idea for new users to figure out it's a menu button, bad idea for those of us who want the real estate back - can we have an option please?

A few more issues:

* Still wish the local-invalid-certificate-bug would get some attention.
* Still wish I could drag background tabs to rearrange them without them jumping forward.
* Gmail UI bug - maximising the Opera window causes the gmail search box to wrap to a new line after the gmail image (does not happen in 10.53). Strangely, restoring it (i.e. making it smaller) moves the search box back to where it's meant to be.

Opera hangs (freeze) when I click on the link and select open in new window

some of problematic pages are still there - e.g. http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/ is still hanging opera as soon as one scrolls down :/

Originally posted by bleicher:

some of problematic pages are still there - e.g. http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/ is still hanging opera as soon as one scrolls down :/

dammit.

trust the guy, dont click.

Originally posted by MrEnig:

Originally posted by bleicher:

some of problematic pages are still there - e.g. http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/ is still hanging opera as soon as one scrolls down :/

dammit.

trust the guy, dont click.

No problems here!

Originally posted by Zalex108:

No problems here!

It does freeze Opera for me in both 10.53 and 10.60 latest build.
Did you try scrolling down the page?

Originally posted by Pesala:

It does freeze Opera for me in both 10.53 and 10.60 latest build.

Did you try scrolling down the page?

Yes, I did, & still no problems. Opera 10.60 Latest build.
I've moved in the web & I don't have any problems, CPU & memory is working normaly too.

PD: Nor problems in Opera 10.53 Usb.

Absolutely no problem here also on Gutenberg, load almost instantly and everything works as it should.
On the other hand, here http://www.fixya.com/users/azraelsrl - or in almost any other part if this site - if you navigate more than one page using the links , the Back and Forward commands/buttons stop working for as long as 3 minutes. And only on that site, on that tab. In any other tab all is OK, just a slight decrease in speed.

Why havn't you guys at Opera development fixed the easy issue of the shabby-looking UI when the 'show menu bar' is disabled:


Please read my topic on a suitable fix for this; http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=400321

I noted now for example when I was using a chat, i typed a nickname, I was on chat after I exited. For m ysurprise when I back using the site again, the same nickname was there. Would i wanna know if in this new version will be possible to let some informations saved in some sites like in IE/FF/Chrome, for exemple?

The improvements in speed are definitely welcome. It's great to hear that Opera is once again king of the hill in terms of speed. I can't say that I'm happy with the UI changes though. I thought the UI for 10.5 was perfect, and the UI in 10.6 Alpha is a step in the wrong direction. The "menu" text is completely unnecessary, and although I would prefer that it be completely removed by default, I would at least like to see an option to use only the image, as with other buttons on the toolbars. The second thing that bothers me even more than the menu text is the location of the menu button. In 10.5 the menu button was located directly beside the tabs, which was perfect. In 10.6 the button is slightly above them. This just looks and feels so wrong, and annoys me to the point where I would prefer not to use the browser if this isn't changed, or at least be forced to use a custom theme, which shouldn't be necessary. I'm not sure if the menu button appears offset like that for everyone though. I've seen screenshots from other people with the button directly beside and flush with the tabs, and some with the button slightly above the tabs. Would anyone care to clear this up for me?

Originally posted by cranil7:

Problems for me. I am getting this message for every site I am trying to visit. This is on linux. (64 bit)
Not sure what the heck is it.

Could not locate remote server

The complete message is as follows.

Could not locate remote server

You tried to access the address http://www.rediff.com/, which is currently unavailable. Please make sure that the Web address (URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the page.
Make sure your Internet connection is active and check whether other applications that rely on the same connection are working.
Check that the setup of any Internet security software is correct and does not interfere with ordinary Web browsing.
If you are behind a firewall on a Local Area Network and think this may be causing problems, talk to your systems administrator.
Try pressing the F12 key on your keyboard and disabling proxy servers, unless you know that you are required to use a proxy to connect to the Internet. Reload the page.
Need help?
Open the Opera Help.
Go to Opera's online support desk.

Try http://www.rediff.com/
Do not add the comma on the end.

One worrying development: for the first time in months i'm getting crashes on YouTube, more precisely i can't even load the Inbox because CPU spikes to 99% and Opera freezes.

Originally posted by reogem:

Try http://www.rediff.com/

Do not add the comma on the end.

Not working on mine too unix .deb i386

I'll Wait For The Official Release.

10.6 beta build 3422 is crashing for me every minute or so. Only saw infrequent crashes in the alpha build.